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Continuing an AIBU …

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PithyBeaker · 10/04/2026 19:22

Just continuing a thread I started a few days ago in AIBU for support as I figure out next steps ending my cohabitation.

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FlowerUser · 11/04/2026 17:53

I have followed both threads and I am in awe of your strength.

His messages range from "I will do anything to love you keep your roof over my head" to "You are horrible and I've done nothing wrong" via "happy to have you around as a quick shag".

None of that is the sign of a loving considerate partner.

Also I noticed you said your DC was relieved. That's what needs noticing. That's all the justification you need.

I know you've said you will never partner again and I understand that. It's how I felt when my husband left me for my best friend. But 25 years to the day my divorce came through, I married the love of my life. It took me 15 years after separating to find him and he was a solid friend for years before we got together. But I'm telling you this so you know that one day you might find someone who will be so brilliant and amazing that you'll think like I did, "this is what a great relationship should be like".

You're amazing. Keep going.

Liveshives · 11/04/2026 17:54

Getting married, AKA secure your house as a marital asset.

You couldn't make it up.
Hand over half your childs inheritance to him and his children after years of him living rent free.

He is consistent if nothing else.

All about his housing needs.

Please gather this stuff together to make the pick up as short as possible.
You have got this.

SpryCat · 11/04/2026 17:54

He thinks he’s wasting his money on furnishing his flat because he doesn’t intend to live there, he thinks the offer of marriage will entice you letting him come back to yours.
His messages are peppered with talk of money, family and sharing but nothing about love! His messages are very telling about who he really is.

PithyBeaker · 11/04/2026 17:55

BernardButlersBra · 11/04/2026 13:27

He really is something else saying this shit 😲. Good on you for getting rid. Some other poor woman can bank roll him, his 3 kids and his ex. What makes him and his ex so special that they procreate 3 times and want other people to subsidise them?!

Omg I just also have to say THIS 🤣🤣 about him and his X. Gods bloody gift 🙄

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PithyBeaker · 11/04/2026 17:57

Glowingup · 11/04/2026 13:42

Lol also alone with cats is so so so superior than being in a relationship with some of these men. Why don’t they see that? Like if the choice is between peace and quiet and a cuddly adorable pet and having to put up with a whiny, leeching twat who calls me a cunt, what exactly do you think I’m gonna choose? Just shows how so many men are raised to have such a weirdly inflated opinion of themselves.

Sorry I don’t love cats 🫣 will prob get a dog tho

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GreenhampsterAndEggs · 11/04/2026 17:59

OP, I am glad you are ok, and hope you managed to have a few hours away from it all. An evening out will be good for you.

This is only Day 2. Don't put too much pressure on yourself, but keep those boundaries firm. The marriage thing does not surprise me.

I think you know what to look out for. Time to focus on yourself and your son. The women here have got your six. Have a peaceful evening.

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 11/04/2026 18:00

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 11/04/2026 11:10

I bet he'll ask you to marry him next.

Omg. I went and found that @TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne had called it!

When I read this, I thought, nah, even he wouldn't be THAT transparently manipulative.

But nope, I was wrong.

PithyBeaker · 11/04/2026 18:00

HolidayHattie · 11/04/2026 14:11

Not exactly the same situation but I split with my ex because it had felt for a couple of years that I was not his priority. I had asked, asked and asked again to go places, do things together, spend meaningful time together but he was always too tired, too busy with work, not now but maybe next week (never happened next week) other family members needed him (I needed him!)

When I broke up with him, he started saying "Don't say that. We can go to X, we can do Y, I'll do Z..." - all the things I had been asking for repeatedly. Luckily for me, it just made me angry. "So you could do all those things, you just chose not to, you chose not to inconvenience yourself for my happiness, when I was constantly inconveniencing myself for yours?"

Keep hold of your anger. You are doing the right thing. You will miss him and have regrets, but keep re-reading these threads and stay strong.

N.B. I met a lovely man in my 40s and I am 100% his top priority. Not saying it's perfect but we both make compromises and consider the other person. It's not one way traffic.

Great point. All well and good to concede we can go to therapy NOW…..

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PithyBeaker · 11/04/2026 18:02

Beachtastic · 11/04/2026 14:16

Oh OP 💐

I have been with men like this. I was married to one for a couple of decades. Then I got involved with another for a few years, and then another. Eventually I realised that wolves kept dressing very convincingly in sheep's clothing and that whatever it was I needed to learn, I was spectacularly failing to learn. So I took myself off into the wilderness and lived alone for many years, in complete isolation. I became very happy, and never wanted another man in my life to throw a spanner in the works.

And yet, life has a way of surprising us. Here I am, happily married. To someone I don't have to worry about boundaries with, because he looks out for me better than I do for myself. I never need to ask him for help, because he anticipates what I might need from one moment to the next. He does all the cooking and DIY. He is constantly finding interesting, fun things for us to do together - walks, cycle rides, films to watch, places to go. He makes me laugh all the time. He has never so much as raised his voice or shown any irritation towards me. It took me years to get used to this. For the first few years together, I used to ask him why he never got angry with me. He would say "What would I get angry with YOU about? You're the most amazing woman in the world."

I met him in my 50s, by the way, and he is many years younger than me. So your ex is not the only one "young enough to find someone else who ticks all the boxes" (the cheeky fucker!!!) 🫣🤣

I know you feel you're in love with someone who was "good" at some point, but everything you have written about him demonstrates beyond any doubt that this is NOT a good man. (Calling you a cunt?!? All the cruel, manipulative things he has said to you over the past 24 hours?!?? WTAF...)

Ohhh, I remember those romantic feelings of anguish and relief as the old volatile relationships swung this way and that, with me gripping on for dear life. That's not love, as I eventually found out. Real love is worth the wait (and if you're anything like me, it might actually shock you to realise it's something you've never actually experienced before; you just misinterpreted a familiar feeling of struggling to meet someone else's needs, and being occasionally rewarded).

Please remember that you are not in your right mind at the moment. Being in a relationship with someone like him completely distorts the way you see things, placing HIM at the centre of your world, so that anything leaning only fractionally away from that feels as though it shatters the gravitational harmony of the entire galaxy.

Congratulations on taking your first careful, hesitant but firm steps towards a better life. It will take a while for you to understand just how wonderful you're being right now, because some things will only become clear to you in retrospect. But one day, you will look back on all this and be profoundly grateful to yourself for doing this now. 🌞🌞🌞🌞🌞

For now, please understand that your mind will be playing tricks on you. You are clearly one clever cookie, so just being aware of this should help you to outsmart it. Some of those tricks are siren calls that feel irresistible, e.g. "Oh, but it was so lovely once!" No, believe me, it really wasn't.

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Great post, thank you. Trying to meet his needs and getting reward crumbs sounds familiar... Thank you 🙏

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Belindabelle · 11/04/2026 18:06

Pleased to hear that you have plans for tonight and DS is staying with his dad.

I would plan something for next weekend when the children would normally be back at your house. This is likely to be when your DS will notice the changes and may miss the company.

I am in awe of your strength and determination.

PithyBeaker · 11/04/2026 18:06

FlowerUser · 11/04/2026 17:53

I have followed both threads and I am in awe of your strength.

His messages range from "I will do anything to love you keep your roof over my head" to "You are horrible and I've done nothing wrong" via "happy to have you around as a quick shag".

None of that is the sign of a loving considerate partner.

Also I noticed you said your DC was relieved. That's what needs noticing. That's all the justification you need.

I know you've said you will never partner again and I understand that. It's how I felt when my husband left me for my best friend. But 25 years to the day my divorce came through, I married the love of my life. It took me 15 years after separating to find him and he was a solid friend for years before we got together. But I'm telling you this so you know that one day you might find someone who will be so brilliant and amazing that you'll think like I did, "this is what a great relationship should be like".

You're amazing. Keep going.

Thank you for this. Sadly, the strength? (detachment?) is smthn I learned from awful early years. However bad this all looks I’ve been through worse and with bigger monsters. Onwards

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SpryCat · 11/04/2026 18:07

It’s great that you are out with friends later, treating yourself kindly by surrounding yourself with supportive friends. xx

PithyBeaker · 11/04/2026 18:18

bitterbuddhist · 11/04/2026 17:43

OP, I've been watching this with interest. I wonder if you could block him on all things apart from say email? PLEASE don't take this blighter back, I beg. Your son is relieved, and it will be lovely to have your well ordered house and life back again.

Dw there is no way in hell I am moving him back in. I swear.

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SpainToday · 11/04/2026 18:19

BeaRightThere · 11/04/2026 14:50

OP I really hope you haven't felt pressured by all the man-haters on here to end a relationship that you didn't really want to end.

I don't think your ex sounds like a monster and I'm not sure it couldn't all have been worked out.

Anyway it's over now, I hope you take care of yourself and your son and that you move on happily.

I doubt anyone would end a relationship due to a bunch of internet strangers. But it wasn’t the OP who ended the relationship, her suggestion was to continue as a couple whilst living separately. Her DP wasn’t prepared to try this.

I didn’t think he sounded like a monster at first, but he was certainly a man with a lot of baggage and despite his insistence about sharing everything, he had very little to share with the OP.

But as I said upthread, I think 3 step children on a 50/50 basis is too much for most people.

PithyBeaker · 11/04/2026 18:20

Belindabelle · 11/04/2026 18:06

Pleased to hear that you have plans for tonight and DS is staying with his dad.

I would plan something for next weekend when the children would normally be back at your house. This is likely to be when your DS will notice the changes and may miss the company.

I am in awe of your strength and determination.

DC has his birthday party and sleepover w pals, then another bday party to attend on Sunday!

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Fleetbug · 11/04/2026 18:23

Hello OP you are doing brilliantly and have MN behind you. Everyone here is doing a fab job of helping you translate the bullsh*t you have been fed,

Please don’t feel the need to read yr XP’s messages straight away and especially not answer them. You must be so used to responding to his thoughts and needs but that is over now thank goodness. Take your time, use the mumsnet bullsh*t translation services provided here!
His comments make it clear that without the offer of your house and childcare services you mean very little to him. He’s already looking for the next opportunity for his housing/childcare needs to be met . Marriage? Just another means of securing that house and childcare.
Im so sorry you are going through the pain of loss but that is a stage- it will get easier. Hang on in there MN is supporting you!

Beachtastic · 11/04/2026 18:28

PurpleVine · 11/04/2026 17:51

and there he is again with what he wants. nowt in there about what you want - or what's got you to breaking point in the first place.

put yourself in his shoes - if he told you he was miserable and you were taking him for granted, would you be texting him now moaning about furniture costs and telling him you want to get married? and accusing you of slinging him and his kids out on the street?

of course he wants to get married because it benefits him if you do. he'd have rights over your house for starters and if you'd been married now you wouldn't have been able to get him out the house. he knows this. it's about the money and he's been plain as day about it - ranting about equity, guilting you about paying rent and carrying on like paying bills is enough when he'd have rent or a mortgage + bills anywhere else!

he's also pulling the heartstrings about wanting a family - but family in this case means someone else to help look after his kids. he knows that his kids are going to get harder as they get older and that means less time for him to sit and game. it also means help with their costs because he's shelling out maintenance even though he doesn't need to, and getting your financial help makes it so much easier.

he makes a big noise about cleaning the bog - so bloody what? he's missing the point that talking about it doesn't get the fucking thing clean. if you don't want to clean the loo and you can pay for someone else to do it then fair do's and why the hell not? anyone can sit there and shout their mouth off about how they are a ninja with a toilet brush but actions speak louder than words and his nibs doesn't seem to be all that good about actually getting the job done. this is the man that calls you a cunt when you argue and whose every message has been about him his feelings and what he wants.

he sounds like he's got a chip on his shoulder that's the size of jacket spud. you are well shot of him. ignore him and don't reply.

Yes, the bit about cleaning the bog!!! Well, give that man a medal...

It took some adjusting to my now-DH, because when I used to express gratitude about him cleaning the house (never having experienced this before!), he would just shrug and show me this 🤣💗

OP, I am in awe of your splendidness. It will be interesting to see what your friends have to say tonight. Enjoy your evening. You have much to celebrate!

Continuing an AIBU …
outerspacepotato · 11/04/2026 18:37

love bomb-y in nature and also guilt ridden ones about how much money he is wasting furnishing the flat. He has said he’ll give me time but ultimately wants us to get married and all be a family. I am grey-rocking.

He thinks making his flat fit to live in is "wasting money". Of course he does, he's been parasitizing your home and he's desperate to get back in.

I wouldn't trust a man who could suggest you could be a casual shag while he looks for his next home provider and in the same day, suggest marriage. He's throwing anything at the wall to see what sticks.

Grey 🪨 is good, but you've got plans and stuff to do and his issues are no longer your problem. Block him for a while.

Enjoy your evening out and it's so nice your little guy has a lot to look forward to.

Umbrellasinthesunshine · 11/04/2026 18:44

Well done OP. Despite a few numpties on this thread, it has somehow restored my faith in Mumsnet. Lots of women sharing their experiences and wisdom, and above all their support for you. I hope you feel the force of the sisterhood behind you. And your son being relieved… enough said.

Mumsgirls · 11/04/2026 18:48

Well done op. Not much has been said about his payments to ex. He was under no obligation as doing 50/50, so chose to subsidise her, so by not taking rent it came from you ? Crazy. He is now desperate enough to offer marriage , how nice. Just to make it harder for you to escape. He’d be then after your will depriving your son. Well done op putting your son first. I am a woman of a certain age after two bad marriages I will not risk a relationship.
I have grown daughters and a dgc and thanks to my career a lovely life style, great social life and holidays and the obligatory cat Ernie. If you meet you equal, fine, if not you are in a position to still have a great life. Much better than some women who have depended on men. No criticism, but it is a big risk. As a boomer with a full defined pension life is sweet. I too have a cleaner.
my Ernie does not pay bills or provide , except for the odd mouse. At least he didn’t not arrive with a litter of kittens and expect me to raise them lol
You will soon look back and be proud of yourself op and your son will thank you for restoring his comfortable home. Well done op

PeloMom · 11/04/2026 18:51

PithyBeaker · 11/04/2026 08:44

He is dumping me. I have said I still want to continue the relationship living separately. He only wants the kind of relationship where “we live together and share everything”

But he’s got nothing to share. He only wants to share what you bring to table.

RedToothBrush · 11/04/2026 18:54

inickedthisname · 11/04/2026 17:38

Not sure how saying he wants to get married is supposed to reassure you, since you have always said you don’t want to get married and put your DS’s inheritance in jeopardy…

He wants to get married now his cash cow has told him no. Wonder why?

(Who benefits financially?)

Also he's not listened to a fucking word you've said, when you said you don't want to deal with the kids anymore.

He is in full panic mode.

Wouldn't surprise me if he didn't get worse with the begging and harassment before he gives it up.

Tableforjoan · 11/04/2026 19:02

Have a good cry.
Have a good drink.

Did you change your sheets? Have a proper proper wash?

it helps.

Remember you are strong you have your own home with your child form your own work. No man gave that to you. No man should take it away

SaltyCara · 11/04/2026 19:03

Having read both of your threads (and congratulations for standing your ground with him and asserting some extremely reasonable boundaries, I think you're doing amazingly) what strikes me is how differently you and your dreadful ex define "being a family".

You wanted the six of you to be a family - for you and your partner to be each other's biggest cheerleaders, for you to have each other's backs, for the two of you to enjoy more quality time together as the children got older and more independent, for you to be a team raising your children in a happy, secure, fun, stable, functional big family.

He wanted you to be his family by providing him with a home large enough to house his children while allowing them to treat it and sometimes you and your son with unkindness and disrespect.

I honestly think you are closer to your dream family now than you were when you were with him! You may or may not have another romantic relationship but you can have a home with and for your child that is safe, calm, predictable (in the best way), relaxed and spacious and where he can come first and you can come (a very close!) second without four other people riding roughshod over your space, preferences, requests, boundaries or freedoms by varying degrees.

Belindabelle · 11/04/2026 19:05

@Umbrellasinthesunshinejust when I start to despair of this place along comes a thread like this which reminds me of what a truly fantastic supportive resource Mumsnet can be.