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Continuing an AIBU …

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PithyBeaker · 10/04/2026 19:22

Just continuing a thread I started a few days ago in AIBU for support as I figure out next steps ending my cohabitation.

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Doubledenim305 · 11/04/2026 13:42

When people argue u don't engage.
Keep saying "I said you can come on Monday".
That's the end of the conversation or the only thing you going to give. And make sure when he is there u have back up and aren't alone with him. As someone said "weapons grade manipulation" will be in play. And change the locks.
Him asking and u doing....look at the dynamic 😳 u dancing to his tune. Those days are over. Continue to take back control here. He's not nice.

NettleTea · 11/04/2026 13:45

and yes, try to avoid getting into conversation - try to let any words he says waft over you. He is a king of manipulation, so well versed in getting what he wants and how to pull the right strings to get it. You are in your weakest point, so vulnerable. Its going to hurt now, you just need to get through it

Hhhwgroadk · 11/04/2026 13:48

PithyBeaker · 11/04/2026 08:44

He is dumping me. I have said I still want to continue the relationship living separately. He only wants the kind of relationship where “we live together and share everything”

He wants to share everything, i.e. your money, your house, your food. Yep Everything that is Yours.

SoInLuv · 11/04/2026 13:52

Well done, OP 💛🌹 You truly are a great person, a strong woman and a fantastic Mum! Your maturity and intelligence shine through in every single post of yours. Just wanted to say that...good luck with the situation, everything shall be just fine 🙂 xxx

wheresthespuds · 11/04/2026 13:52

If your DC seems relieved, that tells you something…

pinkdelight · 11/04/2026 13:52

Trying to keep DC away from the drama. He’s doing well and honestly seems relieved.

Well done. I think your DC's reaction is very telling. Keep both of you away from the drama and enjoy a peaceful weekend with no more selfish interruptions from ex.

PuppyKeep · 11/04/2026 13:55

Thanks for this thread OP. For us stepmothers, it's food for the soul.

"I want to be with someone where we share everything"

Yeah, share his shit. And he conveniently forgot to mention he has A LOT more shit to share than you.

Be interesting to see how long the next poor woman lasts.

PuppyKeep · 11/04/2026 13:57

PithyBeaker · 11/04/2026 08:42

Not really. Woke up crying. Miss him terribly.

Trauma bond 💐 Give it time...

january1244 · 11/04/2026 14:01

Having read his messages on this thread, I just think what a lucky escape you’ve had. He’s still trying to manipulate you and make you back down. He’s started with trying to bargain - basically if you don’t let me move in and ‘be a family’ then we can’t be exclusive and I’ll date someone else. And from that base, he plans to still be dangling exclusivity to get what he wants, or trying to make you jealous with the mention of other women.

That hasn’t worked, so then he’s moved to threats, saying you’ll be all alone forever, but he won’t, because presumably he’s such a catch.

And now you’ve got the rocking up to your house, the tears, and the claims you ‘never loved him’. Despite you asking him not to.

He’s not taken any of this on board and tried to take a moment and think about it. WHY would he think it’s your bloody responsibility to get him tools - surely he can ask a neighbour or buy a cheap set! Especially noting you have a child there - WHY would he think it’s acceptable to turn up and call constantly with a child in the house. He is massively panicking, it’s not going the way he wants, and I just see it escalating further. Hold strong. Think of the relief you think your son feels if you start to waver. Take care of yourself

PuppyKeep · 11/04/2026 14:02

PithyBeaker · 11/04/2026 12:14

I haven’t muted, just picked up a call and he wants to come round to pack and talk. Lots of tears about how I betrayed him, lied, only care about money. I said no, he can come Monday when DC at school. And now he is outside. Fuck I can hear phone ringing in his car. He ignored my request not to come over. Great.

This is very concerning.

And calling you a cunt.

This man has zero respect for you or your wellbeing. Lock the door.

GlobalTravellerbutespeciallyBognor · 11/04/2026 14:02

I often think Mumsnet produces a lot of men hating rot.

BUT

There is a lot of good advice on this thread dear OP.

Keep focussed on your son. Concentrating on his best interests will pull you in the right direction.

Fewer and longer move out sessions for all the stuff.

HygerTyger · 11/04/2026 14:02

PithyBeaker · 11/04/2026 12:14

I haven’t muted, just picked up a call and he wants to come round to pack and talk. Lots of tears about how I betrayed him, lied, only care about money. I said no, he can come Monday when DC at school. And now he is outside. Fuck I can hear phone ringing in his car. He ignored my request not to come over. Great.

He is DARVOing hard here. Reverse victim.

Please don't meet him again except on the Monday as agreed. He is trying to wear you down.

outerspacepotato · 11/04/2026 14:03

Trying to keep DC away from the drama. He’s doing well and honestly seems relieved.

You need to be there for him this weekend. This is your time to put him ahead of your now ex partner.

Tell him no. He's going to have to wait until another time that you arrange. He's already not listened to your no once today. That should be it for speaking with him today. You need to say no, set your boundary, and when he crosses it, which he will because he doesn't respect you, there are consequences. He can't come over again because he already ignored your no and you need to spend time with your family without his disrupting that.

And that's what he's trying to do. He's a disrupter.

HygerTyger · 11/04/2026 14:04

Also, @PithyBeaker sorry he IS a monster. An utterly self absorbed, selfish, self-serving, manipulative and calculating monster and sounds narcissistic with it. I know you keep insisting he's not a monster. I hope you can see him more clearly now.

diddl · 11/04/2026 14:05

He’s doing well and honestly seems relieved.

So if at any point you think of letting him back-bring this to mind.

Stop running around for him though.

Tools could have waited until Monday when he was supposed to come!

If he needed them for this weekend-not your problem!

Sometimes I wonder how men such as your ex I want to say trick a woman into taking them on.

You are just too accommodating!

HolidayHattie · 11/04/2026 14:11

Not exactly the same situation but I split with my ex because it had felt for a couple of years that I was not his priority. I had asked, asked and asked again to go places, do things together, spend meaningful time together but he was always too tired, too busy with work, not now but maybe next week (never happened next week) other family members needed him (I needed him!)

When I broke up with him, he started saying "Don't say that. We can go to X, we can do Y, I'll do Z..." - all the things I had been asking for repeatedly. Luckily for me, it just made me angry. "So you could do all those things, you just chose not to, you chose not to inconvenience yourself for my happiness, when I was constantly inconveniencing myself for yours?"

Keep hold of your anger. You are doing the right thing. You will miss him and have regrets, but keep re-reading these threads and stay strong.

N.B. I met a lovely man in my 40s and I am 100% his top priority. Not saying it's perfect but we both make compromises and consider the other person. It's not one way traffic.

Beachtastic · 11/04/2026 14:16

Oh OP 💐

I have been with men like this. I was married to one for a couple of decades. Then I got involved with another for a few years, and then another. Eventually I realised that wolves kept dressing very convincingly in sheep's clothing and that whatever it was I needed to learn, I was spectacularly failing to learn. So I took myself off into the wilderness and lived alone for many years, in complete isolation. I became very happy, and never wanted another man in my life to throw a spanner in the works.

And yet, life has a way of surprising us. Here I am, happily married. To someone I don't have to worry about boundaries with, because he looks out for me better than I do for myself. I never need to ask him for help, because he anticipates what I might need from one moment to the next. He does all the cooking and DIY. He is constantly finding interesting, fun things for us to do together - walks, cycle rides, films to watch, places to go. He makes me laugh all the time. He has never so much as raised his voice or shown any irritation towards me. It took me years to get used to this. For the first few years together, I used to ask him why he never got angry with me. He would say "What would I get angry with YOU about? You're the most amazing woman in the world."

I met him in my 50s, by the way, and he is many years younger than me. So your ex is not the only one "young enough to find someone else who ticks all the boxes" (the cheeky fucker!!!) 🫣🤣

I know you feel you're in love with someone who was "good" at some point, but everything you have written about him demonstrates beyond any doubt that this is NOT a good man. (Calling you a cunt?!? All the cruel, manipulative things he has said to you over the past 24 hours?!?? WTAF...)

Ohhh, I remember those romantic feelings of anguish and relief as the old volatile relationships swung this way and that, with me gripping on for dear life. That's not love, as I eventually found out. Real love is worth the wait (and if you're anything like me, it might actually shock you to realise it's something you've never actually experienced before; you just misinterpreted a familiar feeling of struggling to meet someone else's needs, and being occasionally rewarded).

Please remember that you are not in your right mind at the moment. Being in a relationship with someone like him completely distorts the way you see things, placing HIM at the centre of your world, so that anything leaning only fractionally away from that feels as though it shatters the gravitational harmony of the entire galaxy.

Congratulations on taking your first careful, hesitant but firm steps towards a better life. It will take a while for you to understand just how wonderful you're being right now, because some things will only become clear to you in retrospect. But one day, you will look back on all this and be profoundly grateful to yourself for doing this now. 🌞🌞🌞🌞🌞

For now, please understand that your mind will be playing tricks on you. You are clearly one clever cookie, so just being aware of this should help you to outsmart it. Some of those tricks are siren calls that feel irresistible, e.g. "Oh, but it was so lovely once!" No, believe me, it really wasn't.

PithyBeaker · 11/04/2026 14:16

PuppyKeep · 11/04/2026 14:02

This is very concerning.

And calling you a cunt.

This man has zero respect for you or your wellbeing. Lock the door.

We are fine. He left and we are going grocery

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BadSkiingMum · 11/04/2026 14:30

I think it might be useful to look for a recommendation of a local small removal or man and van company. Fix a day when any further items can be packed and moved. There is one near me that charges by the hour for small jobs. Choose one with solid reviews and ideally an equally solid, preferably older, man.

Your partner will be very unlikely to cause issues or mess about in front of another man. Plus the removers will have seen it all before.

DaisyDooley · 11/04/2026 14:33

I wonder if he would have fallen in love with you quite so much if you, like him, had been living in a one bedroomed flat.

Keep going. Keep looking at your darling boy and remember you have done this for him as well as you. He is getting his mum back - not the frazzled shell of a woman who was worn out looking after someone else’s kids, clearing up after somone else’s kids and living with a selfish gaming man child.
We women need women like you to show their sons that the sort of behaviour exhibited by your ex is NOT acceptable and strong women will simply not tolerate it.
You are providing the building blocks to make your son a better husband, a better dad and a much better man.
When you feel weak -think of that.
Keep going sweetheart -we are all cheering you on.
I suspect your sister is delighted!

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 11/04/2026 14:34

PithyBeaker · 11/04/2026 14:16

We are fine. He left and we are going grocery

Well done.
You're holding it together for your son.

It's going to be all right.

Hammy19 · 11/04/2026 14:35

PithyBeaker · 11/04/2026 08:44

He is dumping me. I have said I still want to continue the relationship living separately. He only wants the kind of relationship where “we live together and share everything”

If he had been so willing to share all the financial outgoings and housework then maybe he wouldn't be in this position

You have done the right thing. My good friend has recently done the exact same thing and it's hard every day for her, but she also feels so much lighter and more free. It does get easier

AcrossthePond55 · 11/04/2026 14:39

@PithyBeaker

I'm trying to say this with kindness and concern. When he says 'jump' you're still saying 'how high?'. I get this, it's your default reaction because this is what you've been doing for 5 years. But you need to stop. Even if his request sounds simple, it's not. Every request he makes that tramples on your boundaries is made to prove to himself (and you) that he is still in control, that you will bend to his will. And that given time he'll be able to weasel himself back in. And it will prevent you from truly moving on. Hard as it is, you have to stop doing it. For yourself.

I know whereof I speak because I'm fighting this every single day myself. esDH (estranged DH) still expects me to comply with his every request exactly when he wants it done. And I was doing it because the requests seemed small and my default reaction is still do 'just do it'. But even though it might just have been "I need that charger for X", the fact is that he was asking, not because he really needed it that very minute, but to reinforce the fact that I will still do as he says. So I learnt that I must say 'No' or 'I can't now' simply because it's pushing back on his assumption. Sure I could take that charger to where he is, it'd take me 10 minutes. But that's not the point. The point is I'm showing myself that I no longer have to be in fear of his reaction or to try to keep him sweet. I'm still a work in progress, but I'm getting better at default 'no' instead of unthinking 'yes'. Does he get angry and accuse me of 'not caring about him'? Sure, but I'm getting better at ignoring that shit, too.

You can block him, you know. Even if he has stuff still at yours or there are things to be worked out. Because blocking (even for an hour) is also an expression of your 'power'. Not to mention knowing that for the next hour or however long you won't be having to deal with him.

It's going to be tempting to still be intertwined with him and simultaneously tell yourself that you have removed him from those places in your mind and heart because he's no longer living in your house. But you can't do the former and get the latter. So saying 'no' and only communicating on your timetable will give you the time and space to fill the new empty spaces with other things and people.

This is so new to you and you need to give yourself time to form new routines and new priorities. But you'll get there.

MrsMcGarry · 11/04/2026 14:40

"What would I get angry with YOU about? You're the most amazing woman in the world."

I have this now as well. Along with "why would I want to leave you, you are wonderful and meeting you was the best thing that ever happened to me" -because I kept trying to push him away because people I love die or leave when they realise how crazy I am (My therapist had a LOT to unpick)

Everyone deserves someone who thinks like this about them. It's awful that so many women instead think they are lucky if they just get someone who tolerates them and only occasionally calls them a cunt.

BeaRightThere · 11/04/2026 14:50

OP I really hope you haven't felt pressured by all the man-haters on here to end a relationship that you didn't really want to end.

I don't think your ex sounds like a monster and I'm not sure it couldn't all have been worked out.

Anyway it's over now, I hope you take care of yourself and your son and that you move on happily.