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DP and when we have sex, would really appreciate some outside perspectives please

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manaliiiive · 08/04/2026 08:26

So DP and I have been together around 2 years. Both divorced, he has his kids 50 percent of the time - I visit occasionally when he has his DC but never stay over (neither of us want this to change).

Up until recently I had my DC (teens) 100 per cent of the time. This obviously made sex difficult and we used to go to DH’s when he had no kids and make time for it there.

DH’s home circumstances changed meaning it was much harder for us to have sex there although not impossible.

So we were left with the occasional very rare weekend night where we could sleep together overnight.

After about a year after consulting with my teens DP started staying at my house. All fine and we would have (very quiet, discreet) sex late at night when kids in bed, lock on the bedroom door. No issues arising from this.

The issue that we have always had in the relationship is that we only have sex when DP initiates it. If I initiate then I am invariably rejected, DP will also say things like ‘we’re not having sex tonight’ well in advance of us going to bed.

For context I do not have a particularly high sex drive, I’d be more than happy with twice a week or once if it’s a week when we aren’t seeing each other much.

But it’s very much that DP makes the decision. The only exception to this is if I spot a child free moment when we’re both available I could say something like ‘hey on Friday morning we’re both not working and no kids, do you fancy some alone time then go out for lunch’ or whatever. This I seem to be ‘allowed’ to initiate because I have asked in advance?

Anyway I had all this out with DP about a year ago as there were a few things that had upset me, given how little alone time we get I felt that he was prioritising other things rather than being intimate with me. For e.g. on rare child free nights getting pissed in front of the TV rather than taking the opportunity to go and have sex, leaping out of bed the next morning so there was no chance for us to have a bit of alone time.

I just didn’t feel he prioritised sex with me and still doesn’t. That’s not to say he doesn’t initiate - he does - but I never know when this will be so he can come over and stay for 5 days and we could have sex 3 times or none at all and it will all be down to what DP decides.

When I talked to him about this last summer he got upset and said I was accusing him of being controlling and that he ‘doesn’t know he is doing it’ I pointed out that he will literally flinch and move his face away if I try to kiss him beyond a peck on the lips.

I do recognise that people aren’t always in the mood, he also isn’t the healthiest and although there is no ED I think sex makes him tired (he’s not very fit due to a recent health problem) and just feels a bit too much like effort for him at times.

We went away for a rare child free weekends couple of weeks ago and basically didn’t have sex until the Sunday after I had a conversation about why we weren’t? I said I felt he was prioritising sleep and beer when we have so little alone time together. He said I was moody and that’s why he didn’t want to have sex with me.

Anyway (sorry this is long) in the last couple of months my ex has agree to have the kids one night a week so as of recently we have had one childfree night a week. Sometimes DP wants to have sex then and sometimes he doesn’t.

We were in the garden yesterday and he suddenly announced that we would no longer be having sex when my kids are in the house. I am of course happy to have a conversation about what’s made him feel uncomfortable etc. But that’s not what he initiated - just decreed that from now on sex is off the table basically 6 days out of 7.

I felt pretty rejected and upset because - although I am used to him rejecting me - I wasn’t prepared for it as we weren’t even talking about sex he just announced this out of the blue and I felt hurt and embarrassed.

We then had a long conversation about how I feel that I do not have any say in when we have sex (of course I can decline it, he is not remotely coercive I just need to make that clear). His response to this was:

He doesn’t know/believe he does this. I pointed out that I don’t bother trying to initiate any more so it would be hard for him to notice now - but gave the example of him announcing in the garden that we wouldn’t having sex most days any more as an example

If he does do this he isn’t aware that he is doing it, therefore this is just the way he is and I need to accept it because this is who he is and he can’t change

I have upset him because he believes I am accusing him of being controlling (i haven’t used that word) and his ex wife said he was controlling and that’s really unfair as it’s hit a really sensitive nerve as he was not controlling in the relationship at all.

He then basically intimated that I have to dump him if I am not happy as this is who he is and I must accept him as I am. He then said I’m not perfect and when my ex upsets me I sometimes ‘take it out’ on him. I acknowledged that at times when I’ve been upset about something else I’ve been upset with DP but also explained that I reflect, take accountability for my behaviour and always apologise.

Whereas DP’s take on this is that absolutely no reflection, apology or change is necessary with regards to his approach to sex I just need to accept him as he is or dump him.

Sorry this is so long, I absolutely appreciate that nobody is entitled to sex from somebody else, but does this really mean that they should never initiate it?

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LittleCrumblyBiscuit · 08/04/2026 09:15

So you’ve raised an issue with him that is making you unhappy and his response is that you can either lump it or fuck off.

You know what to do.

SALaw · 08/04/2026 09:16

manaliiiive · 08/04/2026 09:10

I really appreciate this post for balance, thank you, as this is usually where my mindset is with it so it’s helpful to see someone articulate it

The post still concludes you should take the “dump him” option though, despite all the stuff at the beginning.

curlyfriess · 08/04/2026 09:19

Are you sure he's not using viagra and so needs to plan in advance a bit? You say it's ok if you give him advance warning so was wondering if that could be it.

Otherwise it doesn't really sound like this relationship is working for you. It doesn't really matter who is right or wrong - sexually this doesn't work for you.

FieryA · 08/04/2026 09:21

I don't think he is controlling, as much as insensitive and uncaring. The inability to reflect on his behaviour and come to a reasonable adjustment is problematic. He is absolving himself of any responsibility to rectify the situation by saying he doesn't realise he is doing it. You don't have to have intercourse at every kid free opportunity but not engaging in cuddles or foreplay or literally pulling himself away from you can be very frustrating. There is one good thing though- he has made it clear that this who he is and you can leave him. Perhaps take him up on the offer.

Happyjoe · 08/04/2026 09:21

He is controlling on your sex life, it should always be a joint agreement and all important things in a relationship that affect you both should be discussed. But he is right, you can dump him if not happy with the set up. He doesn't even sound that invested in you.

Vintagegoth · 08/04/2026 09:23

You say there is no ED, but he will only have set when he initiates it or if you tell him you have time alone a couple of days in advance. You also mention heath issues. This makes me wonder if he is having some medical help with his erections. Then when you try and push against him initiating the sex, he is panicking that you will find out. For example the kiss that became a bit heavier and he pushed you away.

I might be wrong, but might be a new angle to view things from.

Or he might be a total arse and you have had enough.

Chatsbots · 08/04/2026 09:26

Does sound like his true nature is surfacing...

Beer & health issues isn't a great combo.

I think he would get "more so" if you lived together all the time.

manaliiiive · 08/04/2026 09:26

anonymoususer9876 · 08/04/2026 09:13

I’m not clear as to why he’s refusing sex? Has he told you his reasons?
eg:
He could be worried about his health?
He could be feeling unattractive and is self-sabotaging?
He could be mentally exhausted from the working week?
[insert other reasons here, but if he doesn’t tell you, how are you to know other than guess?]

For the future of your relationship he should be able to understand that any problems need to be discussed, whether that’s, for example, living arrangements, or future goals, or sex life. Without a discussion, he’s shutting you down and no-one would like that, including him. If he wants a future with you he needs to learn to communicate what’s going on for him.

He never explains. All I get is “we need to go to sleep”

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CitizenofMoronia · 08/04/2026 09:27

Sounds like too much effort to me, whats keeping you with him.

manaliiiive · 08/04/2026 09:29

I really don’t know about the ED thing, there are times I don’t think he would / could have taken anything. It’s just how horny he feels I believe.

Generally he gets straight up in the morning so we can’t cuddle etc. But for e.g. a little while ago there was a morning I had got up, showered, brought him. cup of tea and then he basically took my bra off and initiated sex, then twice more that day. My kids were in the house 🤷‍♀️

But then other times it’s like I’m radioactive. Honestly who knows

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Goldfsh · 08/04/2026 09:30

I'm not sure if this is controlling, but it doesn't matter - it sounds frustrating and a bit rubbish and that isn't a recipe for your long-term happiness.

I'd move on.

Ohnobackagain · 08/04/2026 09:30

@manaliiiive a couple of people have mentioned ED and the possibility of him needing to take viagra ahead of time, could it be that and him not wanting you to find out?

Shittyyear2025 · 08/04/2026 09:33

anonymoususer9876 · 08/04/2026 09:13

I’m not clear as to why he’s refusing sex? Has he told you his reasons?
eg:
He could be worried about his health?
He could be feeling unattractive and is self-sabotaging?
He could be mentally exhausted from the working week?
[insert other reasons here, but if he doesn’t tell you, how are you to know other than guess?]

For the future of your relationship he should be able to understand that any problems need to be discussed, whether that’s, for example, living arrangements, or future goals, or sex life. Without a discussion, he’s shutting you down and no-one would like that, including him. If he wants a future with you he needs to learn to communicate what’s going on for him.

Seriously?!?

NOBODY has to explain why they don't want sex

NOBODY has to justify 'NO' - can you hear yourselves?

Switch the positions for a sec - would you be expecting op to explain why she didn't want sex if the roles were reversed?

The bottom line is that despite everything else being perfect, their sex drives are incompatible and however op looks at it, it's not going to work long term.

Maybe he is controlling and using sex as a means of control. Doesn't mean op can coerce him into it.

Op you need to leave him and find someone whose sex drive matches yours.

manaliiiive · 08/04/2026 09:33

Yes I did think the viagra thing could be a possibility but I think if that’s what’s going on he should be honest with me about it?

Like maybe it’s embarrassing for him but is it really better for there to be all this unknown and me left wondering:

if hes a raving misogynist about sex (even though he isn’t in other ways)

if he doesnt fancy me any more

basically being in a position where me being up for it just isn’t part of the equation

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StripyShirt · 08/04/2026 09:34

manaliiiive · 08/04/2026 08:54

Yes, it’s the unwillingness to accept it or to change. Then him essentially telling me that I will have to dump him if I don’t like it? So then I’m responsible for ending the relationship over something he claims is in my head?

I think he does know he does it. I’m also really concerned that it’s all tied up in some kind of latent sexism around a perception that it’s slutty for women to want sex or something.

That does really concern me as I feel that might be why he doesn’t want to acknowledge it or discuss it. If he said physical health up and down not always in the mood etc I could understand. But I’m concerned he thinks it’s a man’s job to initiate and it’s unattractive if a woman doesn’t, and that’s why he doesn’t want to discuss it as he does know that attitude is rank sexism.

It will only get worse, leave him.

manaliiiive · 08/04/2026 09:35

I appreciate the mismatched sex drive comments, it’s tricky because sometimes he is really horny and does want to have loads of sex. I just have no way of knowing when that will be.

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Epicuriouss · 08/04/2026 09:35

I recognise very well two things in his behaviour.

The physical ‘flinching’ when you try to kiss him.
The excuse ‘I don’t know I’m doing it’ when you have explicitly TOLD him what he does.

I divorced the guy who did those things to me. Not soon enough, but I did. Nobody should live with a person who claims to love them but flinches at physical contact, it kills your spirit and your relationship stone dead in the end.

For the time you actually get together, it just doesn’t seem worth it to me.

piccalili · 08/04/2026 09:37

It does sound really strange that he won’t even discuss it any further and is just like if you don’t like it then leave…?! I’m not sure that shows great potential for how he will deal with any other differences between you that inevitably do crop up within long term relationships.

WhatNextImScared · 08/04/2026 09:39

I’m almost two decades into my relationship (married almost a decade) and we are barely having sex for various health and hormone reasons. If you’re not managing to have regular sex spontaneously after just 2 years it doesn’t bode well. With kids involved, I would end it now before it gets more complicated. You’re also mentioned beer a couple of times. Do you worry that he drinks too much? That feels like it’s just under the surface of your post.

WhatNextImScared · 08/04/2026 09:41

manaliiiive · 08/04/2026 09:33

Yes I did think the viagra thing could be a possibility but I think if that’s what’s going on he should be honest with me about it?

Like maybe it’s embarrassing for him but is it really better for there to be all this unknown and me left wondering:

if hes a raving misogynist about sex (even though he isn’t in other ways)

if he doesnt fancy me any more

basically being in a position where me being up for it just isn’t part of the equation

And yes if it is because of viagra then that should definitely be an open discussion

Tacohill · 08/04/2026 09:41

But for e.g. a little while ago there was a morning I had got up, showered, brought him. cup of tea and then he basically took my bra off and initiated sex, then twice more that day.

Is there any correlation between you showering and him wanting sex?

What would happen if you just started giving him oral or a handjob?
Would he push you away?

manaliiiive · 08/04/2026 09:43

Tacohill · 08/04/2026 09:41

But for e.g. a little while ago there was a morning I had got up, showered, brought him. cup of tea and then he basically took my bra off and initiated sex, then twice more that day.

Is there any correlation between you showering and him wanting sex?

What would happen if you just started giving him oral or a handjob?
Would he push you away?

No it’s nothing to do with showering (although I’m always clean anyway)

If I tried to give him a hand job he would roll away and say ‘we need to go to sleep’ or if it was the morning ‘we need to get up’

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CocoaTea · 08/04/2026 09:45

”I said I felt he was prioritising sleep and beer when we have so little alone time together.”

This stood out to me. I think this is where your problem lies.

He does prioritise beer and sleep over intimacy with you. Those are his priorities.

I am not sure where you go with that. I completely understand how you feel.

Does he have other redeeming qualities?

Sparkles1212 · 08/04/2026 09:45

manaliiiive · 08/04/2026 09:43

No it’s nothing to do with showering (although I’m always clean anyway)

If I tried to give him a hand job he would roll away and say ‘we need to go to sleep’ or if it was the morning ‘we need to get up’

Please @manaliiiive stop pandering and fawning

This man is a controlling twat. Get rid

manaliiiive · 08/04/2026 09:46

The thing is - I’m not sure if i’ve expressed this enough, when he’s horny he’s totally up for it. It’s not at all that he has no sex drive and he can initiate at the weirdest of times (like if we’ve stayed up til midnight and really need to sleep as have work next day) and just start kissing my neck and initiating things.

It is an absolute mystery to me as and when he’ll want to have sex and it’s not that he doesn’t want to, he wants to quite a lot, I just never know when it will be and it will 100percent not be if i initiate it.

Hes been texting me this morning along the lines of wants to sort this out but really doesn’t believe he’s doing it.

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