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Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

(TW SA) 2nd thread (support)…

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ByPinkPoet0 · 02/04/2026 11:13

First thread www.mumsnet.com/talk/relationships/5497497-trigger-husband-sa-why-cant-i-tell-him-and-why-do-i-feel-guilty

Huge thank you to everyone who has supported me in this so far. If you’ve got this far I really appreciate it. I read all the advice even if it seems like I don’t take it on board straight away. It’s been a difficult time of realisation for me.

I am making another thread so I can continue to post.

This is such a helpful outlet for me I’m so grateful ❤️

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ByPinkPoet0 · 04/04/2026 07:35

@NotAWurstToIt @Imbrocator
I can’t thank you enough for leaving me such lovely supportive and affirming messages. It really means so much and I had no idea when I first posted here for opinions that so many people would be so so nice.

I think I’ve got a LOT of work to do on my self esteem because deep down I always feel like my prior behaviour in some way caused what happened / is happening to me. I met DH not too long after I was assaulted and I told him about it thinking it was something I should disclose. Looking back I was very emotionally fragile at that time and he looked after me and took care of me when I didn’t feel like I deserved it. He never encouraged me to report it or tell anyone else and I was ok with that as I didn’t want anyone else finding out. I never got any help or therapy either.

i think he quite likes the fact that when we met I was a ‘party girl’ and he was the first guy that had been ‘nice’ to me. Sometimes when we’ve had tense words (which is usually about our sex life) he refers to how I was ‘before’ and how that must be effecting how I feel about it now. That’s why I don’t trust him or feel completely comfortable because of the dubious hookups I’d had before we met. He was also a huge player before we met so it’s not like it’s just me.

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FMc208 · 04/04/2026 07:44

ByPinkPoet0 · 04/04/2026 07:35

@NotAWurstToIt @Imbrocator
I can’t thank you enough for leaving me such lovely supportive and affirming messages. It really means so much and I had no idea when I first posted here for opinions that so many people would be so so nice.

I think I’ve got a LOT of work to do on my self esteem because deep down I always feel like my prior behaviour in some way caused what happened / is happening to me. I met DH not too long after I was assaulted and I told him about it thinking it was something I should disclose. Looking back I was very emotionally fragile at that time and he looked after me and took care of me when I didn’t feel like I deserved it. He never encouraged me to report it or tell anyone else and I was ok with that as I didn’t want anyone else finding out. I never got any help or therapy either.

i think he quite likes the fact that when we met I was a ‘party girl’ and he was the first guy that had been ‘nice’ to me. Sometimes when we’ve had tense words (which is usually about our sex life) he refers to how I was ‘before’ and how that must be effecting how I feel about it now. That’s why I don’t trust him or feel completely comfortable because of the dubious hookups I’d had before we met. He was also a huge player before we met so it’s not like it’s just me.

“He never encouraged me to report it or tell anyone else”

Oh sweetheart of course he didn’t. Because he’s a rapist himself. This is just heartbreaking.

ByPinkPoet0 · 04/04/2026 08:58

FMc208 · 04/04/2026 07:44

“He never encouraged me to report it or tell anyone else”

Oh sweetheart of course he didn’t. Because he’s a rapist himself. This is just heartbreaking.

Oh dear I know it probably is very depressing and heartbreaking to read it all. Sorry. I’m just brain dumping.

there were a lot of good times too and he was genuinely very loving and caring . Still is. He really looked after me in that period of my life and helped me sort myself and my wild behaviour out.

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DropOfffArtiste · 04/04/2026 09:08

How is he very genuinely loving and caring? When you say every nice word, smile or hug leads to unwanted sex?

What do you believe is loving and caring about his behaviour now? What does that mean to you?

ByPinkPoet0 · 04/04/2026 09:19

DropOfffArtiste · 04/04/2026 09:08

How is he very genuinely loving and caring? When you say every nice word, smile or hug leads to unwanted sex?

What do you believe is loving and caring about his behaviour now? What does that mean to you?

In between the difficult parts he is very charming , makes me laugh, is helpful and does a lot around the house and with the kids. Also does a lot to help me.

He does tell me nice things and how much he loves me a lot. We are in this stage now. Nothing is too much trouble and he’s being an absolute 10/10 fun dad.

This is why it’s very confusing to keep on top of my feelings !

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NotAWurstToIt · 04/04/2026 09:24

OP your behaviour isn’t the issue here at all - the fact that you refer to it as ‘wild’ and that he helped you ‘sort it’ is what you’ve been told.
You were young and free, then you suffered a SA (which is awful) and he has used that to prey on you and gaslight you into believing you’re the one at fault.
You’re not, you’ve done nothing wrong. In fact you’re incredibly brave and you’re doing so well dealing with this incredibly difficult situation. I can’t even imagine how stressful this is for you. It can and will get better.

shoppingred54 · 04/04/2026 09:30

Does he usually work full time at home OP?

ByPinkPoet0 · 04/04/2026 09:33

shoppingred54 · 04/04/2026 09:30

Does he usually work full time at home OP?

No not usually . I’m off for some of the holidays with the kids so he’s wfh

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DropOfffArtiste · 04/04/2026 09:34

If nothing is too much trouble, a good time to sort out the bank account...

Babyboomtastic · 04/04/2026 09:35

DropOfffArtiste · 04/04/2026 09:34

If nothing is too much trouble, a good time to sort out the bank account...

And the sex off the table for a month.

AyzumSkayzum · 04/04/2026 09:36

Most people get drunk and sleep around at uni OP. That's part of the experience. You didn't lead some wild, crazy lifestyle that needed fixing, you were just a normal teenager. You didn't need fixing. You needed therapy to help you process an SA, not a predator to commit more SAs against you.

BuckChuckets · 04/04/2026 09:45

ByPinkPoet0 · 04/04/2026 08:58

Oh dear I know it probably is very depressing and heartbreaking to read it all. Sorry. I’m just brain dumping.

there were a lot of good times too and he was genuinely very loving and caring . Still is. He really looked after me in that period of my life and helped me sort myself and my wild behaviour out.

I hope the more you read people's comments, the clearer it will be that your rapist is not 'loving and caring'.

FMc208 · 04/04/2026 09:46

ByPinkPoet0 · 04/04/2026 09:19

In between the difficult parts he is very charming , makes me laugh, is helpful and does a lot around the house and with the kids. Also does a lot to help me.

He does tell me nice things and how much he loves me a lot. We are in this stage now. Nothing is too much trouble and he’s being an absolute 10/10 fun dad.

This is why it’s very confusing to keep on top of my feelings !

So has he sorted the access for you for the bank account and said sex is off the table for a month?
Because if you’re in such a happy place now and it’s real and genuine, this would be the time those things would happen. But they haven’t, have they?

Unfortunately it’s not real, it’s part of the cycle of abuse and it happens to trick you into thinking everything is good and happy. Its not.

DropOfffArtiste · 04/04/2026 10:04

He will do anything for you, except the things you actually need to feel safe and equal in your partnership. Because he doesn't want that, he's groomed you to believe that he has your best interests at heart while maintaining the lie that you are damaged and "need" him.

He wants you to feel unstable, unsure, questioning yourself, vulnerable to his moods and sexual demands. If he genuinely supported you to build up your self esteem, you would realise his behaviour is unacceptable.

Also, re doing his fair share (not "helping") with the kids and house - this should be the baseline, they are equally his responsibility.

ByPinkPoet0 · 04/04/2026 10:06

BuckChuckets · 04/04/2026 09:45

I hope the more you read people's comments, the clearer it will be that your rapist is not 'loving and caring'.

Yes I am starting to become more aware of things . Thank you x

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category12 · 04/04/2026 10:10

A lot of people have a "wild" phase in their youth, OP. I doubt yours is particularly outrageous or shameful.

We don't need a man to save, change or control us - most of us with wild pasts settle down with perfectly nice partners who don't rape us or financially control us.

ByPinkPoet0 · 04/04/2026 10:10

I haven’t brought up the bank account again yet but I will. Or the break. I’m just a bit reluctant to rock the boat at the minute I just want the kids to have a nice Easter holidays with happy daddy

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DropOfffArtiste · 04/04/2026 10:19

Well that's what he's relying on, to keep you quiet. You know if you bring it up he will become angry and abusive again, so you know deep down this "nice" behaviour is all a charade and not to be trusted.

DropOfffArtiste · 04/04/2026 10:20

Are you starting to see now how this is all part of the cycle?

ByPinkPoet0 · 04/04/2026 10:36

DropOfffArtiste · 04/04/2026 10:20

Are you starting to see now how this is all part of the cycle?

Yes I’m starting to notice it more now
its still hard though
I want to keep the good stuff going

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DoesthislookgoodOnMe · 04/04/2026 10:41

@ByPinkPoet0 i don’t think het helped sort you out. He took you when you were in vulnerable place and he abused your trust by controlling you. The age difference jn itself is questionable as well as him not encouraging you to report it. He normalised it so what was to come would be “ok” as you are married and meant to please him.

DropOfffArtiste · 04/04/2026 10:50

Of course you want to keep the good stuff going, but that only happens when you don't express your own needs or feelings and give in to his sexual demands.

If it were genuinely "good" and not an act, it would continue even when you ask to be treated as an equal and with respect.

category12 · 04/04/2026 10:58

ByPinkPoet0 · 04/04/2026 10:36

Yes I’m starting to notice it more now
its still hard though
I want to keep the good stuff going

This is how he controls you. He makes you too afraid of his moods and anger to challenge him. You know he'll spoil the holiday for everyone if you dare be authentic.

(If your bank accounts are joint, you don't need his permission or knowledge to access them, you can just get your own log ins from the bank. Obviously if everything is in his name alone, that's another story.)

NettleTea · 04/04/2026 11:18

ByPinkPoet0 · 03/04/2026 22:30

Thank you for saying that 😢 it means a lot
i have a lot of guilt and shame tied up with that I think

im damaged and that’s why I feel ‘this way’ about sex now. That’s what he’s said and I believe

Bless you OP

I can really relate to this because I had some really messed up ideas about sex when I was younger and I used to never really quite enjoy myself because I felt guilty about the MANY one night stands I had as a youngster. I had a couple of very bad experiences which I blamed myself for, as I internalised the 'I shouldnt have put muyself in a vulnerable position, but later realised its because they were abusive/ rapist men. If they had been decent men they would not have done that to me. And if it had not been me, they likely did the same to other women. The fault is with those men, not with us.

I also married someone I shouldnrt have done because I equated that with being desired and wanted and safe, who didnt treat me well, but I felt like I was allowed to enjoy the sex, and those hormones to a certain extent, kept me involved alot longer than I should have been. Once I was divorced I didnt have those shameful hangups about sex anymore. I did have therapy too, and I have learned SO MUCH from being on this forum for a great many years. The strength and support of women cannot be underestimated.

Casual sex is part of discovering ourselves to a certain extent. In societies which are less patriarchal, (where womens sexual activity needs to be kept in check and owned by men) there is no shame about female sexual desire. Female sexual desire is natural - despite what men will try to tell you. If women didnt have sexual desire, then ask yourself why there are so many laws made by men designed to control and restrict it.

I too used to defer to men in relationships, to mold myself around their needs and rhythms, their friends and interests. I probably believed what they told me. Not so much now. But Im old, post menopausal and cranky, and Ive seen too much. You are young. You have your whole life ahead of you, and you are capable of achieving anything you want, once free of the burden of this awful sexual bully that you have allowed to rule like God over you.

Rubes24 · 04/04/2026 11:47

OP, the vast majority of people have had a 'wild' period in their youth. Almost all my friends drank too much, tried drugs and had casual sex at university. We are all now married with kids and have great careers and happy lives. I might look back and cringe a little but I dont think this is shameful or makes me damaged. You had an awful experience of sexual assault during this time, but that is NOT because of your behaviour and it is not your fault. SA can happen to anyone unfortunately and the shame associated with it should be all on the perpetrator not the victim. I think you feel that your behaviour and lifestyle is to blame for what happened to you, and your husband has reinforced this. That is so so far from the truth. I think maybe your low sense of self worth has made you feel very lucky that your DH has chosen you and so you need to do anything you can to make him happy and if that means continuing to take this abuse then so be it. You are worth so much more than that. You sound kind, funny, caring and intelligent and you are clearly a fantastic mother. You deserve the world, and you are far too young to give up on yourself. Xx