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Should I dump this man over sex or keep seeing him

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Mynotebookisfull · 02/03/2026 13:22

Sorry it's long but want to avoid obvious questions.

I've recently met and have been dating a man. I'm early 40s he's late 40s. He ticks a lot of my boxes and is clear about what he wants which makes a change from so many men I've met through the apps! He has lots of good qualities.

Now the sticking point - sex. We've slept together - in the same bed - and had some intimacy but no actual sex. I'm all for talking about issues early so we've had a conversation initiated by me.

Short story is he doesn't do penetrative or oral sex from what I can gather. He has some issues clearly but I don't know yet where it stems from. It doesn't sound like his last two relationships were sexual in the traditional sense and he prefers role play, toys, kink (spanking, dirty talk, leaning into role play dynamics) and self pleasure - basically wanking next to each other. He says he has ED and viagra doesn't help. He probably hasn't had PIV sex in nearly two decades.

When we've been together he's touched himself but not me sexually although he is cuddly and affectionate. Not a hand on a boob let alone between my legs. When we've been intimate we've kissed (but not much, he doesn't particularly enjoy snogging or initiate it). It feels a bit like we're having seperate sexual experiences next to each other rather than 'together' if that makes sense.

I like vanilla sex I suppose you would say and feel it's important for intimacy and my enjoyment. I love kissing and touch. I need that 'normal' sex to bond with someone and feel close before moving on to kinks and other stuff.

Can I really continue seeing a man who doesn't do penetrative or oral sex at all?
I know sex might not always be as important to me as I move through menopause - but now I'm peri and horny and I love sex.
Appreciate any views or things I haven't considered.
Should I keep talking to him about it? Should I see if he tries to do something different? We've only just had the conversation - he knows what I want. Do I give him a chance to deliver or at least try?

It's not a conversation he enjoys or finds easy... I suspect deep repressed issues and yes I have considered whether he's grossed out by women's genitals or is gay etc.
I don't want to waste my time or life or have to teach a man how to fuck, frankly.

For contrast the last few men I've dated I've had great sex but they've been crap in so many other ways.
This one is great in the ways they were rubbish and I'm conscious of just discarding an otherwise good man - there aren't many out there and I do want a relationship.

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TheFormidableMrsC · 02/03/2026 13:38

No no no. Absolute dealbreaker. You deserve better. His issues sound so deeply embedded and I also wonder if he’s repressing being gay. Do yourself a favour and move on. I would however be very clear with him why and suggest he seeks some therapy. He is also too young for this to be how sex is for him.

Beachtastic · 02/03/2026 13:39

What a weirdo! Why bother?

Orangejuiceisgood · 02/03/2026 13:39

Why would he be gay? Nothing the OP has said suggests he’s attracted to men.

He maybe asexual.

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mcmuffin22 · 02/03/2026 13:39

gamerchick · 02/03/2026 13:35

He's not into women OP. He's all about meeting his own needs. He's using you as a prop.

You'll end up miserable.

Agreed.

MO0N · 02/03/2026 13:39

It's a no from me!

DanaScullysLegoHair · 02/03/2026 13:40

If you love sex, don't waste your time (or his) by sticking with it. If intimacy is important, I think it is natural for you to want to be touched and have the PIV sex you like.

You might be able to go along with what suits him for a while but it'll likely make you feel shit about yourself eventually and you should absolutely look after your own needs and wants too.

Barnestine · 02/03/2026 13:41

Something very wrong. Bin.

SincerelyDoubtIt · 02/03/2026 13:41

So, for the rest of your life if you stay with him, he gets to wank next to you, without touching you at all, and you have to do the same? But he expects you to dress up in stuff, do role play etc?

And he doesn't like kissing you?

Nope

SparklingWater0Calories · 02/03/2026 13:42

if he is nearly perfect in other ways, how important is sex?

This is really a "you" question, OP- it's important to you so there it is. I'm sure there are women who would also prefer not to have sex but that's not relevant to your situation.

He's been honest and upfront and that's fine so not sure why people are reacting as if he's done something wrong. I really wouldn't push it or bargain about it or think in terms of "teaching him" - he has told you his boundaries. They are not compatible with what you want so better to end it.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 02/03/2026 13:42

Bin him off. And further raise your relationship bar.

LG93 · 02/03/2026 13:42

You're not compatible. I say this as someone who shares a lot of his same kinks and would thoroughly enjoy them, but I still don't think I could be in a relationship with someone with absolutely no physical sex, let alone if I was someone who was more vanilla in their tastes.

He's been honest, and it's important you listen. He's not had sex for TWENTY YEARS. Even if you telling him meant he 'changed his ways' it would only be to make you happy, and is unlikely to last long beyond getting you settled and romantically attached. You owe him nothing. This is not a long term relationship where he has suddenly been struck down and can't have sex. This isn't a long term relationship where libido has waned and changed over time and there is an established emotional/practical connection that means it would be a leap to 'throw it all away'.

Let him go and find a partner that wants the same things as you.

heatdeath · 02/03/2026 13:43

End it now. This will make you utterly miserable.

Starlight1979 · 02/03/2026 13:43

You -

I like vanilla sex I suppose you would say and feel it's important for intimacy and my enjoyment. I love kissing and touch. I need that 'normal' sex to bond with someone and feel close before moving on to kinks and other stuff.

Him -

Short story is he doesn't do penetrative or oral sex from what I can gather. He says he has ED and viagra doesn't help. He probably hasn't had PIV sex in nearly two decades.

When we've been together he's touched himself but not me sexually although he is cuddly and affectionate. Not a hand on a boob let alone between my legs. When we've been intimate we've kissed (but not much, he doesn't particularly enjoy snogging or initiate it).

No, it's not going to work.

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JenniferBooth · 02/03/2026 13:46

Good God I only got a few sentences into your first post

Get rid.

GoldDuster · 02/03/2026 13:46

Lord, the fact that you didn't get out of bed with him after the first horizontal experience, put your clothes on and never look back is amazing.

I can't imagine why he's single.

Can you keep seeing him? You can do what you like. But a relationship with a man who refuses to touch you is going to be as awful as it sounds. Him dancing round you dressed as a firefighter brandishing a dildo, while he wanks himself away next to you and refuses to expand on why?

Not for me. Might be for you, but I can't see anyone being ok with this unless they were only looking for someone with a pulse.

BBCLW · 02/03/2026 13:46

Mynotebookisfull · 02/03/2026 13:37

People are more than sex and relationships are MUCH more than sex. I think you know what I mean.

You know if you really get on him you can break up but stay friends? If he's not interested romantically or sexually then that's pretty much what you are anyway.

Starlight1979 · 02/03/2026 13:47

Mynotebookisfull · 02/03/2026 13:37

People are more than sex and relationships are MUCH more than sex. I think you know what I mean.

Well indeed. If you're both on the same page (which you're not) and if you think that sex is pointless (which you don't).

Nevermind17 · 02/03/2026 13:47

He sounds pornsick. He wants you to perform for him while he wanks because that’s the only way he can get himself off.

LoudSnoringDog · 02/03/2026 13:47

God well you may as well be alone and have a vibrator!

Starlight1979 · 02/03/2026 13:47

GoldDuster · 02/03/2026 13:46

Lord, the fact that you didn't get out of bed with him after the first horizontal experience, put your clothes on and never look back is amazing.

I can't imagine why he's single.

Can you keep seeing him? You can do what you like. But a relationship with a man who refuses to touch you is going to be as awful as it sounds. Him dancing round you dressed as a firefighter brandishing a dildo, while he wanks himself away next to you and refuses to expand on why?

Not for me. Might be for you, but I can't see anyone being ok with this unless they were only looking for someone with a pulse.

Him dancing round you dressed as a firefighter brandishing a dildo, while he wanks himself away next to you and refuses to expand on why?

😆

Nighttimenoise · 02/03/2026 13:48

You may be able to convince yourself that this isn't a big deal for now but give it another couple of months and you'll be so frustrated. If this is early on in the relationship then remember that this is as good as it gets.

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Springspringspringagain · 02/03/2026 13:51

This would be a no from me as I like all the things he doesn't want to do and I'm not wanting to lie next to someone pleasing myself, that's not the point of sex for me, and you are young enough to find another nice man (and there's millions on the planet) who does like the same things as you and do them lots.

It might be different if you'd been with him 20 years and these issues arose over time, and you had three kids, but you don't so you don't need to take this on.

There are people who aren't that interested in sex by peri/menopause and he might do better with one of those, with a bit of role-play thrown in, hard to find but better than messing up your life.

Also, it's all about his wants and needs, not yours. He clearly feels he's in charge and isn't going to compromise at all- I'd be out for that as well.

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