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DH’s friendship with woman at work is killing our marriage

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Teaandbiscuits123456 · 13/02/2026 20:49

DH and I have been together for over 20 years and have two dc all grown up now. DH has made a very good woman friend at work and although not an affair it is very cosy iykwim. Private jokes, DMs at all hours and weekends, breaks spent in each other’s company.
I told him how this made me feel anxious and upset and his response was that that’s just how it is and he can’t help feeling like he does but insists it is just friendship. That just about broke my heart and has made me question where I figure in his life. They’ve only known each other for 2 years.
Knowing all this I’m worried I’m starting to think I might be falling out of love with him almost as a way of self-preservation if that makes any sense?
All the time they are working together I’m not sure if we can get back what we had even though I wish we could. I just don’t know what to do.

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user1493379562 · 27/04/2026 13:30

I doubt if a proper relationship with her would last two minutes. She doesn't want to wash his clothes (including his dirty underpants), pick up after him, cook for him. She is enjoying the relationship without all the realities. She is enjoying being wanted (probably missing this in her own marriage). My ex moved in with his mistress until she lost interest. He tried to come crawling back afterwards but by that time I didn't want him either! Be strong OP and tell him to Foxtrot Oscar!

Teaandbiscuits123456 · 28/04/2026 16:44

Hogglehedge · 27/04/2026 10:21

How are you doing teaandbiscuits x

Thanks for the check in. I’m okay but have really begun to feel differently about him these past few weeks. It’s like a veil has begun to lift and I’m starting to see the reality.
Some of the messages they had sent each other were pretty much telling each other how great they are. How he’s so awesome and that she’s so very lucky to know him. That he misses her when she’s not in work.

I guess she must be feeling amazing being told this and the same for him.

These are professionals in their 50’s but it’s like lovesick teenagers.

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Daytimetellyqueen · 28/04/2026 17:01

So sorry @Teaandbiscuits123456- no advice, just stay strong & remember you’re worth so much more. I hope you find peace.

LoughNaFoo · 28/04/2026 17:05

Have you seen recent messages or are these from before? It sounds like you are in a very lonely place excluded and demoted in your marriage. Do you have people IRL - a friend or family member to confide in for some support / perspective / release?

DinoDoughnut81 · 28/04/2026 17:30

Teaandbiscuits123456

I suffered through an E.A too. One of the worst experiences of my life. With an unlikely seeming nice guy too.

I was very naive and pleased for him when he made friends with this woman. He had been having a seriously rough time from various things and was also feeling a bit lonely and mid lifey.

Then quite suddenly he stopped ringing me for a quick lunchtime chat. No random texts anymore. Sat on another chair in the evening glued to the phone. Looked aggrieved if I tried to engage in conversation. I realized he was talked out, messaging her from first thing to last every day. No room for me anymore.

I very gently said I thought this new friendship was interfering in our life and he exploded. Properly went mental and despised me afterwards. Toxic fighting came on in the weeks afterwards.

It was so toxic I asked him to leave. When he left it was so calm, not peaceful exactly there was a sort of grimness to it but it was so much better. I was able to take control of my destroyed nerves. I told myself like a mantra he might prefer her, he might love her. And I have to accept it and feel it.

He ended up coming home as COVID started. It was a nightmare. The contact between them was much reduced but he refused to block her. He was also drinking heavily and I think mourning their relationship.

I moved out as soon as I could. I had felt transparent, like a ghost in my own life. You can't let someone make you feel like that. Like you don't exist in your home, your relationship.

They have to choose between their real relationship or this fantasy relationship. You have to be aware they might not choose you but the calmness and strength you feel by taking some control, by being real and strong. Not this ghost they can ignore.

We did actually eventually reconcile! He stopped drinking, never spoke to this woman again. Admitted to an emotional affair. Which he denied even existing at the time. Realized the madness of it. A while after that we moved in together again. I see the woman round sometimes. I feel nothing. Things are good now and it sometimes feels like hallucination. But it was a very real and a very intense experience.

It does have a lasting effect. The biggest advice I have is don't let them make a ghost out of you. Being alone and being real and in control is so much better than living like this.

Anon1234567891 · 28/04/2026 17:57

@DinoDoughnut81 I guess you wouldn’t have been able to move on if he hadn’t admitted he had done something wrong and stopped contact? In my case my h thinks we have moved on but I can’t forget what he has done (although nothing overtly sexual) as he won’t admit he did anything wrong and said he wouldn’t ignore her but has cut down on contact but still sees her at work and on any work nights out. I guess this is the same situation for @Teaandbiscuits123456 at the moment.

DinoDoughnut81 · 28/04/2026 18:30

Yes I don't think you can truly reconcile and be in a loving and honest relationship unless they realize and admit what they have done. If he hadn't I would not be with him. It took a while to admit it and years on now he finds it embarrassing.

But when it was all going on I asked him to leave, even though he was in total denial of it being anything except a friendship. And we were fighting so much because of it he had to really. And when we had to live together again, because of covid, it was going on to a lesser extent and he was still in denial. When I moved out he no longer had his real relationship with me, only this fantasy ego boost one which turned out to be not much cop, not a real or caring person that he needed. I left them to it and it imploded. These emotional affairs are mostly fantasy and addictions. But I prepared myself for it to be real. I steeled myself for it.

If I hadn't forced the issue by telling him to go and then moving out myself it could have went on for ages and ages with me still living there, being totally ignored by my partner in my own home! I felt like they were both erasing me from my own life.

You can't control another person and make them admit it or stop. But you can control your own life, even if they never ever admit to anything you know full well what's happening and you don't need to accept it. You can only control yourself and who you have in your own life. I am still so proud of myself for not letting myself put up with it and be erased. I had to move to a crappy flat in a very bad area with Covid still going on and it wasn't a nice time. But it was so much better than letting another person make me so gut wrenchingly unhappy.

Crikeyalmighty · 28/04/2026 18:44

DinoDoughnut81 · 28/04/2026 18:30

Yes I don't think you can truly reconcile and be in a loving and honest relationship unless they realize and admit what they have done. If he hadn't I would not be with him. It took a while to admit it and years on now he finds it embarrassing.

But when it was all going on I asked him to leave, even though he was in total denial of it being anything except a friendship. And we were fighting so much because of it he had to really. And when we had to live together again, because of covid, it was going on to a lesser extent and he was still in denial. When I moved out he no longer had his real relationship with me, only this fantasy ego boost one which turned out to be not much cop, not a real or caring person that he needed. I left them to it and it imploded. These emotional affairs are mostly fantasy and addictions. But I prepared myself for it to be real. I steeled myself for it.

If I hadn't forced the issue by telling him to go and then moving out myself it could have went on for ages and ages with me still living there, being totally ignored by my partner in my own home! I felt like they were both erasing me from my own life.

You can't control another person and make them admit it or stop. But you can control your own life, even if they never ever admit to anything you know full well what's happening and you don't need to accept it. You can only control yourself and who you have in your own life. I am still so proud of myself for not letting myself put up with it and be erased. I had to move to a crappy flat in a very bad area with Covid still going on and it wasn't a nice time. But it was so much better than letting another person make me so gut wrenchingly unhappy.

I think the thing is these kinds of ego boost relationships, they aren’t usually very real , they are just all the good bits when you first get to know someone , so lots to keep conversation going , laughing at jokes or habits and flattery and flirting without any of the ‘why didn’t you put the bins out’ or ‘stop putting bloody sport on ‘ etc - once any signs of domestic shit starts to creep in a lot of these liaisons simply lose their mystique and are revealed for what they are - but by then the damage is often done due to the lies and horrible shit they come out with to justify their behaviour.

Anon1234567891 · 28/04/2026 19:27

DinoDoughnut81 · 28/04/2026 18:30

Yes I don't think you can truly reconcile and be in a loving and honest relationship unless they realize and admit what they have done. If he hadn't I would not be with him. It took a while to admit it and years on now he finds it embarrassing.

But when it was all going on I asked him to leave, even though he was in total denial of it being anything except a friendship. And we were fighting so much because of it he had to really. And when we had to live together again, because of covid, it was going on to a lesser extent and he was still in denial. When I moved out he no longer had his real relationship with me, only this fantasy ego boost one which turned out to be not much cop, not a real or caring person that he needed. I left them to it and it imploded. These emotional affairs are mostly fantasy and addictions. But I prepared myself for it to be real. I steeled myself for it.

If I hadn't forced the issue by telling him to go and then moving out myself it could have went on for ages and ages with me still living there, being totally ignored by my partner in my own home! I felt like they were both erasing me from my own life.

You can't control another person and make them admit it or stop. But you can control your own life, even if they never ever admit to anything you know full well what's happening and you don't need to accept it. You can only control yourself and who you have in your own life. I am still so proud of myself for not letting myself put up with it and be erased. I had to move to a crappy flat in a very bad area with Covid still going on and it wasn't a nice time. But it was so much better than letting another person make me so gut wrenchingly unhappy.

@DinoDoughnut81 how did you manage to move on after all he had done? Unfortunately I seem to have a habit of dwelling on negative things and can’t seem to get them out of my head, so not sure I can move on.

Thewookiemustgo · 28/04/2026 19:40

Crikeyalmighty · 28/04/2026 18:44

I think the thing is these kinds of ego boost relationships, they aren’t usually very real , they are just all the good bits when you first get to know someone , so lots to keep conversation going , laughing at jokes or habits and flattery and flirting without any of the ‘why didn’t you put the bins out’ or ‘stop putting bloody sport on ‘ etc - once any signs of domestic shit starts to creep in a lot of these liaisons simply lose their mystique and are revealed for what they are - but by then the damage is often done due to the lies and horrible shit they come out with to justify their behaviour.

Absolutely agree. Why it takes so much for these stupid men to give their huge heads a wobble and realise what bollocks it all is, is beyond me. Teenage ego feeding drivel, all of it. So much damage and heartache before they wake up. Time and time again always the same story, leaving devastation in their wake and getting the colour of the allegedly greener grass on the other side totally wrong.
A dear friend of mine did the same thing, chose herself (which created a huge rethink in her stupid husband) and made him stay in a flat until he’d sorted his shit out and kept it sorted for nearly a year before he got to come home. He wanted back two weeks after he left, he was told he could feck off until she decided when he got to come home and on what terms and warned him she could change her mind at any time if she didn’t like what she saw.
Few affairs are about love. Very few.

DinoDoughnut81 · 28/04/2026 20:20

Anon1234567891 · 28/04/2026 19:27

@DinoDoughnut81 how did you manage to move on after all he had done? Unfortunately I seem to have a habit of dwelling on negative things and can’t seem to get them out of my head, so not sure I can move on.

The reason I decided to reconcile properly and move back in together I suppose is because I could see objectively what had happened to him.

I don't want to say this as an excuse but just before he became such intense "friends" with her he had some horrible life stuff going on. Real things with family and work. Drinking too much. And also was having some smaller mid life crisis type feelings. He was stepping into a breakdown basically. Not there yet but the stage was set. It was perfect for an emotional or physical affair.

When I was young I had an intense long distance situationship conducted by email mostly. And the feelings when an email landed every day, sometimes a couple a day were thrilling. And intense. I understood how it feels, its a high to get these messages, it's addictive. But it's not real. It wasn't real with this guy for me. It wasn't real for my partner with this woman. It's validation that you are somehow exciting I guess.

So I understood that side of things. He was a open person before.We knew each other's passwords for everything, sharing a P.C. Nothing like this had ever ever happened before. It's the same now. He doesn't have social media, never spoke to the woman again. If he did I wouldn't have forgiven, no way. We see her around together occasionally. It's like nothing weirdly. The messages weren't sexual, although I'm not sure if that would make a difference. He was still very horrible to me. It was actually a short period of time but it turned my life upside down. I actually think life is better now. He doesn't drink either and is a peaceful and better person.

I think having my own space for well over a year afterwards helped me feel calm and certain, of myself and him. Obviously he admitted it and has some emotional intelligence and honesty.

If anything similar happened again I would call my sibling and go straight over to stay. The level of toxicity that built up was crazy. And feeling like you are losing your mind being gaslighted etc. I have to take myself away from these situations.

moderate · 28/04/2026 20:40

DinoDoughnut81 · 28/04/2026 20:20

The reason I decided to reconcile properly and move back in together I suppose is because I could see objectively what had happened to him.

I don't want to say this as an excuse but just before he became such intense "friends" with her he had some horrible life stuff going on. Real things with family and work. Drinking too much. And also was having some smaller mid life crisis type feelings. He was stepping into a breakdown basically. Not there yet but the stage was set. It was perfect for an emotional or physical affair.

When I was young I had an intense long distance situationship conducted by email mostly. And the feelings when an email landed every day, sometimes a couple a day were thrilling. And intense. I understood how it feels, its a high to get these messages, it's addictive. But it's not real. It wasn't real with this guy for me. It wasn't real for my partner with this woman. It's validation that you are somehow exciting I guess.

So I understood that side of things. He was a open person before.We knew each other's passwords for everything, sharing a P.C. Nothing like this had ever ever happened before. It's the same now. He doesn't have social media, never spoke to the woman again. If he did I wouldn't have forgiven, no way. We see her around together occasionally. It's like nothing weirdly. The messages weren't sexual, although I'm not sure if that would make a difference. He was still very horrible to me. It was actually a short period of time but it turned my life upside down. I actually think life is better now. He doesn't drink either and is a peaceful and better person.

I think having my own space for well over a year afterwards helped me feel calm and certain, of myself and him. Obviously he admitted it and has some emotional intelligence and honesty.

If anything similar happened again I would call my sibling and go straight over to stay. The level of toxicity that built up was crazy. And feeling like you are losing your mind being gaslighted etc. I have to take myself away from these situations.

@DinoDoughnut81 How lucky he was that you had had some experience of limerence and so could find some way to relate.

@Teaandbiscuits123456 Sounds like kicking him out might be the way to wake him up. If indeed you still want him.

Anon1234567891 · 28/04/2026 20:52

@DinoDoughnut81 in my case this started when we had made some big life changes to try and make things better after there had been other issues that I had supported him through but at the same time he also went back to work with her so maybe that wasn’t a good choice. The fact this was supposed to be a fresh start but this was going on behind my back makes it worse.

@Teaandbiscuits123456 sorry this probably isn’t helping but from my experience I would say if he is still prioritising her and if he isn’t going to listen then as others have said you have to make your own decision, I wish I had before rather than let it keep making me unhappy and struggling with my mental health 💐

lemongeraniums · 28/04/2026 22:47

This comes over like a rabbit stunned in the headlights situation. Shock. Disbelief. Inertia. When my H’s needy ego was flattered by another I’ve been stunned, argued about its effects, been unsure what to do. It’s a horrible state of limbo, a feeling of inconsequence, of marginalisation, as positives and negatives of the relationship over the many years are weighed and considered with the hope that time and circumstance will resolve the problem.
There’s lots of wise and caring support offered to you by PP. Whenever I see Wookie’s name on a thread my attention concentrates as she gives excellent advice imo. I wish you the best OP.

DarwinDelight · 29/04/2026 01:20

Heartbreaking stories, emotional affairs are deeply wounding and life changing but for men, because many of these affairs start by a growing friendship in day to day situations they seem to be able to minimise their effects to themselves and their wives.
A striaght one night stand and getting caught would for many men seem more cleancut on the guilty scale, the fact that most EA's lead to sexual and wives having to watch the car crash unfold is brutal.
It's very difficult to advise because every couple is different, every person has different ways of coping, finances are extremely important and many don't have the luxury of making quick decisions, so many questions and answers to every situation that add to the hellish confusion you have on top of feeling so hurt and betrayed. I honestly think there should be refuges set up for this kind of emotional battering to escape the trauma.

Anyway my story didn't involve forgiveness, long marriage and totally blindsided by the betrayal of our (what I thought) deep friendship, shared life and many experiences, it didn't just hurt, it made no sense. I could feel the ow's influence upon him and I think that's what hurt the most, that he began to look down on me, his attitude towards the grown up children also became firmer, for a better word, and his distain towards my close family. He had fundamentally switched sides and he enlisted the support of his own family to take his side, absolutely horrible in every sense, and I knew I would never forgive that. I also knew after a while that his attention for this ow would wain, she was a deeply selfish woman who became extremely desperate, angry and demanding when she felt her influence was receeding. She did some nasty stuff to make me aware they had been an item, something I already knew but he always denied, this caused him to be angry with her, something else I hated him for, because I realised he was just such a self serving bully.
I fell out of love with him, it took a long time as we had been a couple for so many years but the main thing was not thinking about whether I could or be able to forgive him, but how I myself could not relax or be vunerable enough to trust, be intimate or just be myself anymore in his company.
He made that change, he forced me to be self sufficient, to not rely on love, to exist without affection or kindness, to not need someone to hold my hand or have a companion. I used to look up to him and I no longer do, and with that there is a great sadness and being in his company now I feel a sense of embarrasment for him, it's very odd, the dynamics of changing feelings never stops.
He wanted to get back together, over ten years, he still can't understand why I don't want that or how I could have lost feelings for him, I can't even speak to him about how we were once married and shared a love, I just shut him down and ignor because I know he's never understood the pain I went through, so I don't need to consider his needs, I just keep it civil, I'm almost shy in his company.

Op I would say every relationship is different and there is no right or wrong in what you choose but I would say you don't know how you, yourself will change over the years, the future changes lots of things, including your state of mind.

I wish you strength and peace during this awful experience.

Nothankyov · 29/04/2026 02:15

@Teaandbiscuits123456 really sorry to hear this. I have been through something very similar if you want to ask me anything let me know.

Hogglehedge · 29/04/2026 07:18

Sending love and hugs @Teaandbiscuits123456 and pp going/gone through same. In my case H did it when we were going through absolute hell with our daughter in mental health crisis, yet he was still getting everything from me he was never pushed away (attention, sex etc ) I still am still with him but in my case its just got worse and im feeling the same as you op. Its just horrible I hope your all ok x🫂

Lifeislove · 29/04/2026 08:19

@DarwinDelight I could have written your post almost word for word.
It took a lot of therapy and time for me to recover from the spiteful, selfish behaviour and I don't think I'll ever get over him actually lumping 'blame' on me for his actions!
The chickens all came home to roost in the end though and he ended up cheating on the AP 18 months after I left him.
That was all 'her fault' too apparently as she 'changed' once she had him full time 🙄.

But I concentrated on my own self esteem, my own life and building a new life just for me and I can look back and see behaviour of his that was so cruel to me at the time I'll never forgive that.

Hogglehedge · 29/04/2026 10:01

Just been reading the last few pages as ive missed a few replies, can so relate op. @thewookiemustgo Is so spot on with the replies and @darwindelight . You have some solidarity from me @Teaandbiscuits123456 xxxx

Crikeyalmighty · 29/04/2026 12:46

Thewookiemustgo · 28/04/2026 19:40

Absolutely agree. Why it takes so much for these stupid men to give their huge heads a wobble and realise what bollocks it all is, is beyond me. Teenage ego feeding drivel, all of it. So much damage and heartache before they wake up. Time and time again always the same story, leaving devastation in their wake and getting the colour of the allegedly greener grass on the other side totally wrong.
A dear friend of mine did the same thing, chose herself (which created a huge rethink in her stupid husband) and made him stay in a flat until he’d sorted his shit out and kept it sorted for nearly a year before he got to come home. He wanted back two weeks after he left, he was told he could feck off until she decided when he got to come home and on what terms and warned him she could change her mind at any time if she didn’t like what she saw.
Few affairs are about love. Very few.

I agree with you - in my Hs case it was about mental escape from some unpleasant shit in the real world - just as some people overeat or go obsessively into gym or whatever- some people stupidly distract themselves with other relationships, both sexual and emotional , sometimes both and it’s often with ‘whoever is easily on hand and interested at the time’ rather than going out actively seeking it - hence why it’s often colleagues or friends of your partner . I’ve been on both sides of the coin so I genuinely do get the ‘why’ and I understand distraction - in my first marriage I met my H very young, married at 19 and by 26 with 2 kids and a DH who always prioritised himself as if he was 19 I was unhappy - not a bad guy, very good looking too but I felt as others have said like an appliance. I ended up getting involved with a colleague (single) who was the opposite, very intelligent,deep thinking, political . My H found out but by then the damage was done . I left him 2 years later as he just didn’t change at all and constantly brought it up - I decided it was better to move on and better for him too,

in my case it was because I was unhappy deep down , but in my current Hs case it was because of life , not me , that he felt the need for a distraction.

I haven’t always been very happy in this marriage either , especially since finding out what I did but this time I haven’t looked for distractions in the way of other people - I realise it solved absolutely zilch .

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