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he "flipped"

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GiItABitMaerWelly · 23/01/2026 11:38

Looking for a handhold here, I guess..
I am in shock by what happened when I stayed over at my boyfriend's.
We'd argued and he'd just said that he just wants to be friends with me. I was sat on the bed watching TV and sniffling a bit and he was sat on the futon, doomscrolling. It was a horrible atmosphere.
Eventually I said something along the lines of "Oh I wish I was just at home right now". Then he leapt up and just went totally berserk at me.

He started yelling "You wanna leave? Then get the FUCK outta my house, you fucking piece of SHIT! NOW! Right now!" And starts sort of clapping his hands in a really crazy way. And all the time he's saying "Motherfucker! Get the FUCK out!!!!! You fucking piece of shit!" For a split second I thought he was joking but he wasn't.
I have never seen anyone so angry in my life, it was absolutely terrifying.
He started grabbing all my clothes out of the wardrobe and stuffing them into my handbag and I was trying to get changed and also kind of keep out of his way because he was scaring me so much.

It was gone midnight and I didn't have anywhere to stay and he lives in a really rough area so I didn't want to be walking the streets till it was dawn.

Then he stopped yelling and started muttering about how he's an idiot for believing a relationship would work, that he's been done again, he looks at me and told me that I am a really dreadful human, a really horrible person. He kept saying it over and over "you know that? You are really horrible". And just looking at me with total disgust.

Eventually I kind of calmed him down and we went to sleep. Next day he said he'd got upset because I had hurt his feelings because he had brought me a cup of tea and a snack and I'd seemed ungrateful for this by saying I wanted to be at home.

It had all begun when I had said I didn't want to get married to him, he has been pushing this fantasy where we get married but he doesn't want me to tell anyone till we've done it. His other big idea is that we buy doer-upper in the countryside.

Then later on he started saying I have loads of problems, loads of baggage, that he should never have joined Bumble in the first place. He kept saying over and over that I have a lot of problems, too many problems in fact and he can't cope with my constant negativity. He finds solutions and I am just a big ball of negative energy.
Then that was when he said he wanted to help me but as a friend.

I had said I just want a boyfriend at this point in time and not marriage.

He knows I have been in abusive relationships in the past and has got really sulky when he has scared or triggered me because he is not like that. We parted on good terms but only after I had listed all my faults too because it was wasn't fair of me to just say how he had upset me and I was like perfect or something.

There is no coming back from this, is there?

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Luckyingame · 23/01/2026 17:53

40 yo?
Deranged, abusive piece of shit with issues.
Deserves good kicking in the arse.
Glad you are safe and don't live together.
Clapping hands, FFS.

GiItABitMaerWelly · 23/01/2026 18:02

timeismymedicine · 23/01/2026 17:21

I have had a similar relationship experience as you. Different man, as he was in his 50’s After a year he flipped major style when he perceived something I had said during a random conversation as being disrespectful to him. If it was it wasn’t intentional. He suddenly flipped, started shouting at me, really in my face telling me all my faults according to him, on and on and on it went. Relentless for a couple of hours. Next day he carried on like everything was normal. I was in bits.
I made the mistake of staying and it happened again next time the level of verbal abuse was ramped up, it was vile. Swearing, using things I had told him in confidence to humiliate me. I could go on but just wanted to let you know how similar my experience was.
I posted on here and I would say 100% of responders to my post advised me to leave. I was so grateful for that advice. When I ended the relationship he hounded me, one day claiming to love me. Next time threatening to ruin me. I blocked and deleted his phone no, email etc but he would message me on other platforms like Strava, etc. I never answered. Anyway I have had no contact now for a month - I split with him 6 months ago, that’s how long it’s taken. I’m still a bit worried he might just turn up on my doorstep one day.
I echo what other posters have said, get out now. He is bad news. My ex also wanted to get married, so pleased I didn’t! Take care of you. Wishing you strength and resilience. You deserve better.

I am really sorry that happened to you x
They sound like they are cut from the same cloth x

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GiItABitMaerWelly · 23/01/2026 18:04

Luckyingame · 23/01/2026 17:53

40 yo?
Deranged, abusive piece of shit with issues.
Deserves good kicking in the arse.
Glad you are safe and don't live together.
Clapping hands, FFS.

It was weird because I had never imagined it would be possible to clap your hands in a menacing way but he somehow managed it. It was sort of like the way you would clap your hands if you wanted a cat to get out of your garden or you were trying to herd sheep or something. Kind of forward leaning. It was so strange.

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pikkumyy77 · 23/01/2026 18:06

GiItABitMaerWelly · 23/01/2026 13:23

I really can't say as it will be too identifying and I am scared of him. It was dreadful though trust me!
Also he said he did something to a different ex he is not proud of it, it was "evil" and he refused to say what it was that he had done. I don't know if maybe he was just chatting shit to scare me, I guess if he was then it worked.

uh… no. This person is an idiot . Its not positive, nothing about the situation is positive. Stay away from this man.

Zov · 23/01/2026 18:07

You have obviously dumped him @GiItABitMaerWelly ?

PLEASE say you have.

TeaBiscuitsNaptime · 23/01/2026 18:07

And it's usually the victims who seek help/ therapy after their outbursts, not the abusers. Says a lot IMO

Jas683 · 23/01/2026 18:12

You deserve better.

Enjoy life. I'm thinking that outbursts of behaviour and then blaming you, could be your path.

GiItABitMaerWelly · 23/01/2026 18:12

A man who screams, yells, and uses horrible, vile language and who says about past relationships "I never hit her, I'm not like that" is a man who truly believes that verbal and emotional abuse literally doesn't exist. He believes his behaviour is not abusive, therefore is within the 'norm' of behaviour. There is no way to change a behaviour he feels does not exist.
Thank you @AcrossthePond55 I think you are right he thinks abuse is being beaten.
Maybe that was why he got so cross when I told him the next day how upset I had been as he took it as a personal attack on him.

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GiItABitMaerWelly · 23/01/2026 18:19

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 23/01/2026 16:40

He told you all this to make sure you never finished with him. He wanted you to stay with him because you were too scared to ever end it. Which is pretty horrific on its own, if you think about it.

Yeah it is horrible I think he has been planting little "seeds" like this to scare me into not ending things for some time there are lots of little things which look suspicious when you add it all together.

Also in hindsight he really has been quite controlling it has been getting worse. Stuff about what to wear / not to wear, being jealous about silly stuff.

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outerspacepotato · 23/01/2026 18:23

You're in another abusive relationship.

Have you done the Freedom Program? If not, do it. Also read Why Does He Do That by Lundy Bancroft. It's available as a free PDF online.

PeoniesAreMyFavouriteFlowers · 23/01/2026 18:26

You should have left In a taxi immediately.

Don’t ever stick around again.

Astra53 · 23/01/2026 18:31

Do not go back to him under any circumstances.

StopBothering · 23/01/2026 18:35

ErlingHaalandsManBun · 23/01/2026 12:48

When I said 'this is toxic' I was referring to the situation. But no, they are not right for each other in that this man is not the one for her.

"It had all begun when I had said I didn't want to get married to him, he has been pushing this fantasy where we get married but he doesn't want me to tell anyone till we've done it."

I'm going out on a limb here and suggesting this idiot is not the one for anyone. He's a control freak.

OP, his language and behaviour are dreadful. He is abusive. He will not change.
Many men are abusive but of course they do not consider themselves to be.

Safety (all forms: physical, sexual, mental, emotional, financial) must be a woman's priority. Romance, companionship, and good sex are nice, but if we are to live good, happy and healthy lives we must put safety first. The first whiff of our safety being at risk is when we get the hell out and stay out.

Stay out of his life and stay safe.

GiItABitMaerWelly · 23/01/2026 18:42

PeoniesAreMyFavouriteFlowers · 23/01/2026 18:26

You should have left In a taxi immediately.

Don’t ever stick around again.

I was too scared to start dialling a taxi I just kind of wanted to calm the situation. If I'd said "Fine!" And started getting a taxi it would have enraged him further I think and he was already being really scary. His place is on the 5th floor I don't know why I just kept thinking he was going to throw me out the window.

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XoXociao · 23/01/2026 18:43

Girl. PLEASE RUN! I am replaying the exact scenario I experienced over last Christmas. Husband clapping at me and calling me the devil. Here I am stuck with him, with 2 children and a migrant who is dependent on his visa to be in Britain. (I am quiet and calm now and just keeping my head down because the alternative is to go back to my home country where the abuse was worse and acceptable). Please and please if you are not financially/culturally/situation bound like me. Runn! Do it for gillies like me who are stuck and have no option but to stay and hope for a God to come to our aid!

Lowbuy2026 · 23/01/2026 19:25

PeoniesAreMyFavouriteFlowers · 23/01/2026 18:26

You should have left In a taxi immediately.

Don’t ever stick around again.

leaving is the most dangerous time, statistics bear this out. OP did what she needed to do in the moment. No one else gets a say in what she should have done in that relationship. She kept him calm which kept her safe at that point. This isn't on the op.

Imisscoffee2021 · 23/01/2026 19:37

GiItABitMaerWelly · 23/01/2026 12:56

Thanks @Imisscoffee2021 it did really hurt me what he said, I don't think I am a bad or horrible person I try not to be anyway! Being called a piece of shit repeatedly also hurt because it was just so de-humanising? Nobody called me that before.

Its you who decides if it's dehumanising, you know your own worth, some little arsehole shouting his mouth off to you and about you doesn't have to mean jack shit if you don't let it. He has shown you his opinion means zilch, I hope you can accept that and don't think on his words too much.

Purplecatshopaholic · 23/01/2026 19:44

TheThingOnTheIce · 23/01/2026 11:41

Well now you know why he was single
run
block

This. Do it now.

Catpuss66 · 23/01/2026 19:48

XoXociao · 23/01/2026 18:43

Girl. PLEASE RUN! I am replaying the exact scenario I experienced over last Christmas. Husband clapping at me and calling me the devil. Here I am stuck with him, with 2 children and a migrant who is dependent on his visa to be in Britain. (I am quiet and calm now and just keeping my head down because the alternative is to go back to my home country where the abuse was worse and acceptable). Please and please if you are not financially/culturally/situation bound like me. Runn! Do it for gillies like me who are stuck and have no option but to stay and hope for a God to come to our aid!

Have you spoke to woman’s aid? I think if you are experiencing domestic abuse there are some leeway with immigration. Speak to them or one of the appropriate DV support charities they know culturally how to help.

Catpuss66 · 23/01/2026 19:52

XoXociao · 23/01/2026 18:43

Girl. PLEASE RUN! I am replaying the exact scenario I experienced over last Christmas. Husband clapping at me and calling me the devil. Here I am stuck with him, with 2 children and a migrant who is dependent on his visa to be in Britain. (I am quiet and calm now and just keeping my head down because the alternative is to go back to my home country where the abuse was worse and acceptable). Please and please if you are not financially/culturally/situation bound like me. Runn! Do it for gillies like me who are stuck and have no option but to stay and hope for a God to come to our aid!

https://www.gov.uk/indefinite-leave-to-remain-domestic-violence-abuse

Indefinite leave to remain or enter (domestic violence or abuse)

Indefinite leave to remain or enter the UK if your relationship has broken down because of domestic violence or abuse - fees, who's eligible, how to apply.

https://www.gov.uk/indefinite-leave-to-remain-domestic-violence-abuse

abracadabra1980 · 23/01/2026 19:57

I'm older than you. I have been married to two exH who were good looking, popular, socially engaging, intelligent, everything that you would think was attractive in a man. Both were hiding personality disorders looking back, there were red flags but I was way too young the first time to realise this, and the second time should have lived with my H for much longer before marrying. Thank God we had no children. Mid life crises and childhood abuse were part of the problems but the best thing I did was get rid of of them, and keep my children stable/unaware of the difficulties/abuse as I could manage, at the time. I'm now living alone out of choice with my three dogs and cat and I shall never share my home with anyone again. I am now semi retired, have mental peace, my kids are healthy and happy, and that is absolutely priceless.

XoXociao · 23/01/2026 20:07

Thank you for this Catpuss66. My abuse is not physical and systemic. I do not have hard evidence to support my claim. I am worried of him finding out my move amd rocking the boat. I know within me that I need to seek help but unsure as he watches my every move. Thank you for nudging me to at least try. I need to at least try to make am effort. Thank you

GiItABitMaerWelly · 23/01/2026 20:32

So sorry to hear that @XoXociao i don't know if you could try Karma Nirvana charity or Southall Black Sisters charity maybe?

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GiItABitMaerWelly · 23/01/2026 20:34

Purplecatshopaholic · 23/01/2026 19:44

This. Do it now.

Yes he just seems to hop from one long term relationship to another and from picking it apart it is like he has left a trail of destruction in his wake.

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GiItABitMaerWelly · 23/01/2026 20:36

abracadabra1980 · 23/01/2026 19:57

I'm older than you. I have been married to two exH who were good looking, popular, socially engaging, intelligent, everything that you would think was attractive in a man. Both were hiding personality disorders looking back, there were red flags but I was way too young the first time to realise this, and the second time should have lived with my H for much longer before marrying. Thank God we had no children. Mid life crises and childhood abuse were part of the problems but the best thing I did was get rid of of them, and keep my children stable/unaware of the difficulties/abuse as I could manage, at the time. I'm now living alone out of choice with my three dogs and cat and I shall never share my home with anyone again. I am now semi retired, have mental peace, my kids are healthy and happy, and that is absolutely priceless.

I honestly feel like I will never trust another man after this. Just my pets! Am glad youre now living a peaceful life

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