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I found this in my bed.

617 replies

Bugsandbeds · 21/11/2025 19:52

I found this in my bed. It was under the duvet cover on my side when I got home from work this other day. I'm married. Husband works from home.

I know what I think it is but I just can't believe it.

Could it be something other than a condom wrapper? I've convinced myself it's off something else, some sort of other packet.

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ChachaIntheLongrun · 23/11/2025 21:30

If it was me, I would just show the wrapper , say where I found it and ask him what he was doing that day

IBorAlevels · 23/11/2025 21:32

24kPalamino · 23/11/2025 20:48

The question I would have is, even if it was a “posh wank”, why under the covers? Wouldn’t he have just done it on top of the bed? If the wrapper was found under the duvet, it suggests that someone was in bed. Apologies if this has already been said.

The whole idea of posh wank is a misnomer though - men won't even put a condom on when they have sex a lot of the time because it "makes it less sensitive" so why suddenly are they opting to do this to save the covers and how is it "posh"? Not like most men do the washing or are worried about things being clean most of the time either!

Itdoesntendwellatall · 23/11/2025 22:08

A friend was in a similar situation. Setting up a camera was a big no, so she placed a small digital voice recorder up near the bed.

He was caught in the act. Several times. She was gutted, obviously, but it was the proof needed for her to divorce.

When the dust had settled, the divorce finalised and she felt able, a group of us went out for drinks. It was 50/50 between six of us if we'd do the same. Some said yes, some no. But if you decide to do this make sure you can live with it.

Listening to someone you love having sex with another person is brutal.

PaisleyGilmourStreet · 23/11/2025 22:18

NotForTheMoneyandNotForTheApplause · 23/11/2025 19:20

It doesn't mean that at all, without any further input from the OP there are many other possibilities, PPs have suggested a few already

Maybe he did have sex with someone else in the bed but there's no way for anyone to know that for sure other than him and a possible other woman

The wrapper being there doesn't mean it was unwrapped in the bed? Is that your point? Even if it WAS unwrapped elsewhere, it can only belong to her husband (we've determined it's not the OP's condom wrapper, and they're the only two who - are supposed to - use the bed!).

Pushandpull25 · 23/11/2025 22:29

@Bugsandbeds yes it’s a condom wrapper and yes if you and him haven’t used condoms in years then it’s likely he’s had someone in your bed. You would be very surprised how common this is, for it to happen in the marital bed! Also, as for a posh wank, I’ve never known this to be a thing in real life, only on mumsnet! Men always say they don’t like wearing condoms so why would they chose to wear one on their own? I know in these scenarios we tend to look at all the different possibilities but if I’ve learnt anything in life it’s that the most likely scenario is usually the correct one. If I found a condom wrapper in my bed, when me and my partner didn’t ever use them, then I would 100% think he’s had a woman in my bed.

Daygloboo · 23/11/2025 22:40

Susiy · 23/11/2025 13:19

OP can challenge her husband directly to get everything out in the open.
However, this is likely to lead to separation if he is in the heat of an affair and may not be the best thing for either of them (or more importantly their children).

Married people have flings - it's not a rarity - it's far more common than people want to admit.

If it's just a short fling the marriage can still survive and move on.
If every married couple got divorced when the husband had a fling - divorce levels would be close to 90%.

My advice is to keep schtum until she figures things out for herself such as what is the best way forward for the children and her? Take the time to consider these things ahead of starting a raging argument which is likely to end in divorce and trauma for the children.

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Having flings is about deceit and using other people. No decent human being wants that. . Dont minimise it. If it's so ok, then why do people keep their mouths shut about it. Nobody would tolerate it if they found out a partner had secretly helped themself to a big chunk of your bank account, or sat around on their arse while you did all the work .....and that is effectively what an affair is.......someone taking advantage and abusing your time, your money, your energy....so why would you dismiss that as just one ofvthose things lots of people do in acrelationship. Dont be so fucking daft..

MisterT373 · 24/11/2025 00:25

In defence of the posh wank I use a condom to try and get used to wearing one. Usually putting one on causes me to lose my erection.

MySilentLions · 24/11/2025 01:08

Aluna · 21/11/2025 23:18

And she’ll be able to tell if he’s lying.

Oh you innocent lamb. Sometimes they are very good at lying … it comes with practise.

Daygloboo · 24/11/2025 01:32

LittlePurpleTeapot · 23/11/2025 15:24

Every post like this these days seems to have a few posters like you who trot this out and I find it very manipulative.
It's like saying the poor men can't help it and don't ruin your children's lives by being so silly and splitting up because everyone's at it.

Not everyone subscribes to the open marriage movement that seems to be infesting MN these days.
Some people got married because they wanted to spend their lives with one person, forsaking all others.
They see fidelity as the baseline that underpins their relationship and one that's very easily achieved by not shagging other people.

If both parties want to sleep with others and it works for them then great but that's a mutual discussion and agreement.

This is not that, this is what looks like OP's DH having sex with someone else and OP has every right not to leave the relationship and not want to waste her like with someone who can't even keep the most basic of their vows.

And if she chooses to 'turn a blind eye' then that's also her prerogative.
But to manipulate her as if she's somehow being a bit silly for not turning a blind eye and 'ruining' her children's lives (that would be HIM that did that) smacks of misogyny. The blame is not on OP.

Incidentally, 90% of marriages do NOT involve infidelity. 🙄

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Agree..That poster ia a complete wanker. 90% what a load of shite.

CRCGran · 24/11/2025 02:27

Why assume it's another woman? Maybe it's an affair with a man.

DeepRubySwan · 24/11/2025 02:34

Luckykittycat · 21/11/2025 19:55

Just mind that some men use a condom when they fly solo as well!

No they don't that is absolutely absurb why would they do that?

BettyBobble · 24/11/2025 03:26

CRCGran · 24/11/2025 02:27

Why assume it's another woman? Maybe it's an affair with a man.

Helpful 😴.I'd plump for it being a sex worker. Think about it logically. Even a SW wouldn't want to be part of that scenario (unless lied to.) I find it hard to believe an AP and if it were I'd find her and scalp the hateful bastard. (Pardon my French.) Either way mate, he's cooked his goose. It's exhausting and painful. You will look back in time and feel relieved.

givemesteel · 24/11/2025 04:43

It's a condom wrapper. Becoming fitter and more attractive is a huge red flag, the running club might be real but it also could be an excuse (my ex had an affair and invented a weekly club that he was going to). I would be ringing the club to find out how often they meet.

Sorry OP, you need to be gathering evidence, get access to his phone if you can.

AnonAnonmystery · 24/11/2025 07:44

@Bugsandbeds how are you doing? Did you manage to get through weekend? I know all these messages are really overwhelming and I think it’s case of letting what you found sink in as well as just be vigilant.

I haven’t read all the comments so sorry if I’m repeating what someone else said but I still think it’s worth and SDI test ( condom or no condom as some men used these when the are close to climax so you may be at risk) .

theressomanytinafeysicouldbe · 24/11/2025 08:34

I would just show him and ask him if he fancies explaining this.

Also, you have a 12 year old, are they curious, you never know

CRCGran · 24/11/2025 10:49

BettyBobble · 24/11/2025 03:26

Helpful 😴.I'd plump for it being a sex worker. Think about it logically. Even a SW wouldn't want to be part of that scenario (unless lied to.) I find it hard to believe an AP and if it were I'd find her and scalp the hateful bastard. (Pardon my French.) Either way mate, he's cooked his goose. It's exhausting and painful. You will look back in time and feel relieved.

Why is it unhelpful? Surely it's a possibility for consideration. A bloke visiting the house during the day would be less noticeable to neighbours than a woman when he's home alone. It could also be an explanation for condoms. Would give the husband reason to be "nicer" to the OP. Would explain "problems" with sex over the years that he blamed her for. My comment wasn't meant to be anything other than another scenario to consider. Unless of course you're suggesting that that never happens and is a ridiculous notion!!!

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 24/11/2025 11:06

Daygloboo · 23/11/2025 22:40

Having flings is about deceit and using other people. No decent human being wants that. . Dont minimise it. If it's so ok, then why do people keep their mouths shut about it. Nobody would tolerate it if they found out a partner had secretly helped themself to a big chunk of your bank account, or sat around on their arse while you did all the work .....and that is effectively what an affair is.......someone taking advantage and abusing your time, your money, your energy....so why would you dismiss that as just one ofvthose things lots of people do in acrelationship. Dont be so fucking daft..

Agree. So many people diminish infidelity as a minor transgression, either because they're cheaters themselves or because it hasn't happened to them yet. In fact, cheating is every type of domestic abuse you can think of. It is:

  • emotional abuse: cheated people class being cheated on the most painful and traumatizing thing that ever happened to them, it's agonizing and soul destroying
  • mental abuse: many women feel a latent sense of unease long before they find out their spouse is cheating, they clock the lies subconsciously, they query the cheater and are fed a pack of lies and are gaslit to kingdom come, and they feel anxious and confused, sometimes for years
  • physical abuse: the cheater can pass on deadly STDs. They also often pass on vaginal flora from OWs that can cause distressing chronic or repeated bouts of UTIs and bacterial vaginoses; many women say how these problems disappeared when they ditched the cheater. The unease that cheated women feel can also lead to significant chronic health problems that doctors cannot find a reason for, like headaches, gut troubles, neck pain - all of which disappear when they get rid of the cheater.
  • financial abuse: lot of cheaters spend family money on OWs and prostitutes
  • sexual abuse: the wife would likely NOT agree to sex with the cheater if they knew he was fucking around, so the right to consent has been stripped from her
  • a form of reproductive abuse, because chlamydia and bacterial vaginosis can cause female sterility
  • And it is potential child abuse, because cheaters can pass on disease to their pregnant wife that could threaten the baby's health and even life.
DBSFstupid · 24/11/2025 11:58

OP you've been given heaps of advice on here.
Aren't you going to come back to your thread?
( I know you're not obligated to, I just find it quite rude generally when OP's ask for advice and don't have the common courtesy to acknowledge that feedback.)

Parsleyforme · 24/11/2025 11:58

Pearlmaster500 · 23/11/2025 21:08

Judging by the comments there are men who do it. I just think that if he was doing that it would be a normal thing he does when wanking.. my partners been wanking exactly the same for the near 15 years I’ve known him 😂

That’s true and it’s a bit unusual but not something that you’d necessarily keep secret from your partner

Semihayat · 24/11/2025 12:48

The picture does not clearly show what it is. You can scan it using Google Lens.

SocksandGloves · 24/11/2025 13:42

JudgeBread · 21/11/2025 19:58

Do any actual real men do this? Because I only ever hear it on here and the only thing I ever hear from men is that condoms feel worse so I don't know that this isn't just a myth perpetuated by people desperate to believe their husband isn't shagging the maid/nanny/postman despite all evidence to the contrary

Surely just a tissue to clean up, unless you're own squirt horrifies.

TryingAgainAgainAgain · 24/11/2025 14:00

DBSFstupid · 24/11/2025 11:58

OP you've been given heaps of advice on here.
Aren't you going to come back to your thread?
( I know you're not obligated to, I just find it quite rude generally when OP's ask for advice and don't have the common courtesy to acknowledge that feedback.)

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For goodness sake, her life is possibly falling apart, and you're getting entitled about updates?

VividZebra · 24/11/2025 15:07

I'm so sorry, OP. My marriage ended through cheating ex and it was extremely painful. Would this be a marriage-ender for you? If you're sure it is, then I agree with others - do not let on that you know, see a solicitor, get copies of all financial information. He will gaslight you and try to pretend he has your interests at heart. He hasn't. Protect your future and your kids' futures.

DBSFstupid · 24/11/2025 16:01

TryingAgainAgainAgain · 24/11/2025 14:00

For goodness sake, her life is possibly falling apart, and you're getting entitled about updates?

I haven't asked for 'updates' have I? So get your facts correct before getting stuck in.
I think generally if your life is falling apart and you come on MN looking for advice from complete strangers and people take time to post and try to help then that could be acknowledged.
I couldn't give a toss about your 'opinion'.😁

SoftBalletShoes · 24/11/2025 16:15

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 24/11/2025 11:06

Agree. So many people diminish infidelity as a minor transgression, either because they're cheaters themselves or because it hasn't happened to them yet. In fact, cheating is every type of domestic abuse you can think of. It is:

  • emotional abuse: cheated people class being cheated on the most painful and traumatizing thing that ever happened to them, it's agonizing and soul destroying
  • mental abuse: many women feel a latent sense of unease long before they find out their spouse is cheating, they clock the lies subconsciously, they query the cheater and are fed a pack of lies and are gaslit to kingdom come, and they feel anxious and confused, sometimes for years
  • physical abuse: the cheater can pass on deadly STDs. They also often pass on vaginal flora from OWs that can cause distressing chronic or repeated bouts of UTIs and bacterial vaginoses; many women say how these problems disappeared when they ditched the cheater. The unease that cheated women feel can also lead to significant chronic health problems that doctors cannot find a reason for, like headaches, gut troubles, neck pain - all of which disappear when they get rid of the cheater.
  • financial abuse: lot of cheaters spend family money on OWs and prostitutes
  • sexual abuse: the wife would likely NOT agree to sex with the cheater if they knew he was fucking around, so the right to consent has been stripped from her
  • a form of reproductive abuse, because chlamydia and bacterial vaginosis can cause female sterility
  • And it is potential child abuse, because cheaters can pass on disease to their pregnant wife that could threaten the baby's health and even life.

Agree with all of this.

And yet, there are marriages which recover from affairs, with some saying they are stronger than ever afterwards. I suppose this can be because the discovery of an affair forces truly open communication. What a way to get there, though. 😟

Some people might decide they don't want to throw everything away over a fling or a one-night stand, and that's OK.

Personally, I think the high divorce rate shows that marriage just doesn't work for human beings.

I highly doubt that the DH used a sex worker. They mostly don't use condoms so they can get business and charge more, and choose to get tested regularly instead. Probably they're on PreP. And I doubt they would put themselves in such a situation as going to the house.