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Married to someone with Asperger’s/ASD/ND: support thread 17

909 replies

SpecialMangeTout3 · 20/11/2025 22:18

New thread.
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This thread is for those of us seeking to explore the dynamics of long term relationships with our ND partners. Some of us are ND ourselves, very many of us have ND children. It is a support thread, and a safe space, it does get emotional at times. Avoid sweeping generalisations if possible, try and keep it specific to you and your partner.
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It's complicated and it's emotional.
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The old thread is here.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/relationships/5355546-married-to-someone-with-aspergersasdnd-support-thread-16?page=10&reply=148665446

OP posts:
Theydontwantme · 07/03/2026 08:47

When I first came on this thread I wasn’t sure if my parent was asd or narcissistic and I’ve had real trouble putting my finger on it. The major red flag for me has been the level of attention she seems to love and need. When I listen to stories on here and I think of myself and my ND children we don’t want this attention. What we want is to be seen but not by the masses just seen and accepted.

I’ve been thinking about masking. ND people including myself mask to fit in, I know my real self receives lots of rejection and is misunderstood so I mask to avoid the daily rejection. Also mask in social situations, even tho I dislike the noise and the quickness. My mums mask is very different, her mask is designed to be extremely appealing and to receive maximum attention and zero rejection. She does not avoid places with noise and people, she will seek it. I still know my vulnerability and can access it and talk about who I am, the real me under the mask is still the real me and this is the person I really wish could be accepted. My mum has no one under the mask, there is no vulnerability, you won’t be able to talk to her and her vulnerability meet you. If you go to her with sadness you will not be met with empathy, she won’t retell a sad story from her past to connect, there are no past vulnerabilities, nothing. I think she is a narc. I think the masking gives it away. The ND mask is camouflage, the narc mask is like a transplant and the host is gone.

BustyLaRoux · 07/03/2026 08:49

Ohdostopwafflinggeremy · 06/03/2026 09:29

Thank you all again for your words of support, I genuinely appreciate them🪷
@BustyLaRoux I agree that his response was more about him than me. I remember thinking he doesn't even want to dig a little deeper to see if there is anything at all he could do to reassure or comfort me.
On the other hand it will be a relief to not have to deal with the almost automated, robotic, insincere attempts at comfort and reassurance. @classicslove the knee pat, back pat and 'sad face' are all too familiar. My poor daughter said that after i was taken away by ambulance, dad just patted her on the back, then walked away. She spent 20 mins crying in the shower.
Last year when he was diagnosed with Parkinsons, it was a nightmare. He completely shut himself off, literally shut himself in his room all day. I would ask how he was feeling and he would tell me about his actual physical feelings, how bad his arm tremor was, the leg cramp, never about how he was feeling. Eventhough i found it hard that he completely shut me out, I respected his way of dealing with things, but i continued to ask how he was feeling and how I could help. I couldn't imagine just not asking and leaving him to get on with it.

Oh the sad face and the reassuring pat!!!! Oh no, just no.

BustyLaRoux · 07/03/2026 12:13

Theydontwantme · 07/03/2026 08:47

When I first came on this thread I wasn’t sure if my parent was asd or narcissistic and I’ve had real trouble putting my finger on it. The major red flag for me has been the level of attention she seems to love and need. When I listen to stories on here and I think of myself and my ND children we don’t want this attention. What we want is to be seen but not by the masses just seen and accepted.

I’ve been thinking about masking. ND people including myself mask to fit in, I know my real self receives lots of rejection and is misunderstood so I mask to avoid the daily rejection. Also mask in social situations, even tho I dislike the noise and the quickness. My mums mask is very different, her mask is designed to be extremely appealing and to receive maximum attention and zero rejection. She does not avoid places with noise and people, she will seek it. I still know my vulnerability and can access it and talk about who I am, the real me under the mask is still the real me and this is the person I really wish could be accepted. My mum has no one under the mask, there is no vulnerability, you won’t be able to talk to her and her vulnerability meet you. If you go to her with sadness you will not be met with empathy, she won’t retell a sad story from her past to connect, there are no past vulnerabilities, nothing. I think she is a narc. I think the masking gives it away. The ND mask is camouflage, the narc mask is like a transplant and the host is gone.

Not sure I agree with this myself. My dad and exDP are both clearly autistic (though exDP does share a lot of Narc traits), and neither mask at all. They do not lack confidence. They are not remotely aware that other people find them….odd. It wouldn’t occur to them that they might need to mask. They seek attention. They crave company.

Not saying your DM isn’t narcissistic, she doesn’t sound very warm. Maybe it’s warmth that sets ND and narc apart. My dad, for all his faults, does care. He just has no emotional language to express it and has no empathy. But I know he cares. ExDP also cares a lot. He tends to very focused on his own emotions and experience, very egocentric, but again not uncaring. Your DM doesn’t sound like she really cares about anyone at all…..

Theydontwantme · 07/03/2026 13:16

BustyLaRoux · 07/03/2026 12:13

Not sure I agree with this myself. My dad and exDP are both clearly autistic (though exDP does share a lot of Narc traits), and neither mask at all. They do not lack confidence. They are not remotely aware that other people find them….odd. It wouldn’t occur to them that they might need to mask. They seek attention. They crave company.

Not saying your DM isn’t narcissistic, she doesn’t sound very warm. Maybe it’s warmth that sets ND and narc apart. My dad, for all his faults, does care. He just has no emotional language to express it and has no empathy. But I know he cares. ExDP also cares a lot. He tends to very focused on his own emotions and experience, very egocentric, but again not uncaring. Your DM doesn’t sound like she really cares about anyone at all…..

She cares about herself and she cares about my brother because he centres around her. She cares a lot when people focus on her. She likes to be indispensable. There could very well be ND in there but I think there are issues. All the ND people I’ve ever known are extremely caring despite the sensory or
processing issues. I think I’ve got caught up in the ND but there is something else.

NDisthisit · 07/03/2026 13:38

Hello - long time lurker- never thought I’d have to make a post, but here I am.
I am finding it more and more difficult to communicate with with ND DH. I read the advice on here and look at YouTube and chat GPT, but I am running out of patience. So yesterday I wasn’t well and he kept on at me to phone 111, which I did. I followed advice given etc. He was working from home so went downstairs and I stayed upstairs in our room near the bathroom. He then finished work, and had a sleep on the sofa. Then about 6pm asks if I wanted dinner, I said yes and off he went to make it. He then called down it’s ready. So I went downstairs served my self and went back upstairs- he had gone into the lounge by then. And that was it - he said to my son is your mother not joining us then? In an annoyed tone.
he came back to an hour later and said are you staying up here still. I explained (again) I need to lie on my side and be near the en-suite. So he went back downstairs to watch football. I am worn out with this non communication from him and just expecting me to fill in the gaps for him. Sorry probably not making any sense - but I am worn out for having to manage his ND one vision and making him understand the nuances in life.

Theydontwantme · 07/03/2026 14:11

NDisthisit · 07/03/2026 13:38

Hello - long time lurker- never thought I’d have to make a post, but here I am.
I am finding it more and more difficult to communicate with with ND DH. I read the advice on here and look at YouTube and chat GPT, but I am running out of patience. So yesterday I wasn’t well and he kept on at me to phone 111, which I did. I followed advice given etc. He was working from home so went downstairs and I stayed upstairs in our room near the bathroom. He then finished work, and had a sleep on the sofa. Then about 6pm asks if I wanted dinner, I said yes and off he went to make it. He then called down it’s ready. So I went downstairs served my self and went back upstairs- he had gone into the lounge by then. And that was it - he said to my son is your mother not joining us then? In an annoyed tone.
he came back to an hour later and said are you staying up here still. I explained (again) I need to lie on my side and be near the en-suite. So he went back downstairs to watch football. I am worn out with this non communication from him and just expecting me to fill in the gaps for him. Sorry probably not making any sense - but I am worn out for having to manage his ND one vision and making him understand the nuances in life.

I have no words of advice. Honestly I have a three year old who is an utter arsehole atm and I just don’t think some grow or learn about others at all and stay like this. I know that there is a disability effect to it but it doesn’t excuse all the behaviour.

BustyLaRoux · 07/03/2026 15:50

Theydontwantme · 07/03/2026 13:16

She cares about herself and she cares about my brother because he centres around her. She cares a lot when people focus on her. She likes to be indispensable. There could very well be ND in there but I think there are issues. All the ND people I’ve ever known are extremely caring despite the sensory or
processing issues. I think I’ve got caught up in the ND but there is something else.

Sorry I didn’t make myself very clear there. I agree ND are caring a lot of the time. My ND people are caring (they don’t know how to show it and can be self absorbed but they are caring). Your DM ‘s care sounds more in the self interest sense, though I don’t know her of course! And perhaps this is what sets her apart from the other ND people you know. The “care” isn’t from a warm place.

As for the masking, I don’t think all ND people mask. I know plenty of ND people who don’t feel there is a need for them to mask as they’re not bothered what people think of them.

Theydontwantme · 07/03/2026 17:10

BustyLaRoux · 07/03/2026 15:50

Sorry I didn’t make myself very clear there. I agree ND are caring a lot of the time. My ND people are caring (they don’t know how to show it and can be self absorbed but they are caring). Your DM ‘s care sounds more in the self interest sense, though I don’t know her of course! And perhaps this is what sets her apart from the other ND people you know. The “care” isn’t from a warm place.

As for the masking, I don’t think all ND people mask. I know plenty of ND people who don’t feel there is a need for them to mask as they’re not bothered what people think of them.

That’s the thing, all the ND people I’ve ever met have been very supportive. A few run support groups for others to meet and chat and support each other. I’ve never met another ND person as cold as this one but also warm when they want to. I cannot read her at all or figure her out. If she turned up to a support group she would only offer and never need support or let anyone in, there is no way in to her if that makes sense.

BustyLaRoux · 07/03/2026 17:41

Theydontwantme · 07/03/2026 17:10

That’s the thing, all the ND people I’ve ever met have been very supportive. A few run support groups for others to meet and chat and support each other. I’ve never met another ND person as cold as this one but also warm when they want to. I cannot read her at all or figure her out. If she turned up to a support group she would only offer and never need support or let anyone in, there is no way in to her if that makes sense.

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It does make sense. I wonder could you go LC as you seem to have spent so much time and energy trying to work her out, make a relationship, so much disappointment at the constant rejection. I wonder if drawing a line under it and accepting she will never give you what you need would be less painful in the long run.

I’ve made my peace with everyone, insofar as I accept I won’t get enough from them so I kind of put a box round it/them (though I was resentful, sad and angry for a long long time).

At some point I think moving past wishing things were different is the only thing we have left. (Sending virtual hugs though because it is very hard having relationships emotionally unavailable people. We feel like there must be something wrong with us and it is hurtful and confusing).

SpecialMangeTout3 · 07/03/2026 17:43

NDisthisit · 07/03/2026 13:38

Hello - long time lurker- never thought I’d have to make a post, but here I am.
I am finding it more and more difficult to communicate with with ND DH. I read the advice on here and look at YouTube and chat GPT, but I am running out of patience. So yesterday I wasn’t well and he kept on at me to phone 111, which I did. I followed advice given etc. He was working from home so went downstairs and I stayed upstairs in our room near the bathroom. He then finished work, and had a sleep on the sofa. Then about 6pm asks if I wanted dinner, I said yes and off he went to make it. He then called down it’s ready. So I went downstairs served my self and went back upstairs- he had gone into the lounge by then. And that was it - he said to my son is your mother not joining us then? In an annoyed tone.
he came back to an hour later and said are you staying up here still. I explained (again) I need to lie on my side and be near the en-suite. So he went back downstairs to watch football. I am worn out with this non communication from him and just expecting me to fill in the gaps for him. Sorry probably not making any sense - but I am worn out for having to manage his ND one vision and making him understand the nuances in life.

Waves 👋👋 @NDisthisit

It sounds like your dh understood something was wrong but then expected you to just get better through the magic of 111 🙄🙄 Dh is very likely to react like that simply because he has no experience of actually being ill (it takes time etc etc)

I think when you’re ill, you just dint have the capacity to absorb their issues and limitations. To scaffolding them.
Thats pretty normal imo. And is true for anything, not just ND.
Its a bit like expecting your partner yo get and cook (because you can’t) despite the fact they’ve caught the flu, have a high temperature and can’t get up.

I think many of us have experienced that.
And it’s shit.
And I don’t have an answer really. Apart from ignoring him, his comments and do what works for you.
What iwould be very careful about is to explain to your dc why you were back in bed!

Sorry it’s not more helpful,than that 🫂🫂
🤞🤞 you’ll feel better soon

OP posts:
SpecialMangeTout3 · 07/03/2026 17:48

At some point I think moving past wishing things were different is the only thing we have left.

I agree @BustyLaRoux
I feel it applies to all sorts of things too. My parents aren’t ND but they have their own flavour of ‘hard to live with’ behaviour (controlling and dominant for my dad. Emotionally immature and incapable to see anything but herself for my mum).
Acceptance, for me, means reducing the hurt. Not hoping for change. And the ability to put boundaries and ‘reduce’ the relationship to what’s manageable to me.

OP posts:
Theydontwantme · 07/03/2026 17:56

SpecialMangeTout3 · 07/03/2026 17:48

At some point I think moving past wishing things were different is the only thing we have left.

I agree @BustyLaRoux
I feel it applies to all sorts of things too. My parents aren’t ND but they have their own flavour of ‘hard to live with’ behaviour (controlling and dominant for my dad. Emotionally immature and incapable to see anything but herself for my mum).
Acceptance, for me, means reducing the hurt. Not hoping for change. And the ability to put boundaries and ‘reduce’ the relationship to what’s manageable to me.

Mine are just so god damn charming to friends and strangers….but I can’t find a way in. It makes me sad to see others getting all the attention and us nothing. It makes me feel like a child again watching them with others but being alone with all my feelings. They are just so selfish. I think they want the benefit of kids but not the hard parts. I wish I could move away from them all and not have to know anything about them.

SpecialMangeTout3 · 07/03/2026 18:58

@Theydontwantme genuine question here
If you feel like going NC, what’s stopping you?

I know that one thing that’s stopping me is guilt and a (maybe falsely placed) feeling of compassion. I’m an only child. My parents have absolutely no one around them (family or friends). They are 80+ yo. I feel I need to have some form of contact with them. Because they’ll need someone to support them at some point.
I dint know what’s the situation is for you. But taking the problem the other way around, asking myself what level of contact I’m happy with and then working towards making that manageable worked well for me.
So that’s LC, some subjects are totally avoided. Clear boundaries on some stuff (like leaving the room if my dad starts shouting). That helps maintaining a calm enough situation, very surface level and more importantly one I’m happy with.
And I’ve given upon the fairy tale idea of an amazing family. They simply can’t do that. It has never existed so it’s not as if I’m giving up something. I’ve just given up a dream.

OP posts:
Theydontwantme · 07/03/2026 19:06

SpecialMangeTout3 · 07/03/2026 18:58

@Theydontwantme genuine question here
If you feel like going NC, what’s stopping you?

I know that one thing that’s stopping me is guilt and a (maybe falsely placed) feeling of compassion. I’m an only child. My parents have absolutely no one around them (family or friends). They are 80+ yo. I feel I need to have some form of contact with them. Because they’ll need someone to support them at some point.
I dint know what’s the situation is for you. But taking the problem the other way around, asking myself what level of contact I’m happy with and then working towards making that manageable worked well for me.
So that’s LC, some subjects are totally avoided. Clear boundaries on some stuff (like leaving the room if my dad starts shouting). That helps maintaining a calm enough situation, very surface level and more importantly one I’m happy with.
And I’ve given upon the fairy tale idea of an amazing family. They simply can’t do that. It has never existed so it’s not as if I’m giving up something. I’ve just given up a dream.

If I go it would not affect them at all. That is my problem, I don’t mean anything. I’m a black sheep, a problem, a negative to their perfect family image. They don’t want someone to support and love, they want a self sufficient person who just adds to the image. The sad thing I’ve realised is that it’s not a lack of communication it’s that they have no intention of supporting. It’s do or
die in my family. They didn’t want my children to get diagnosed, they don’t want to adapt and support them, they don’t want to acknowledge anything. They eye roll me when I bring anything up. Feelings are just an inconvenience.

BustyLaRoux · 08/03/2026 15:27

I spent my morning reading through an old thread of ours. Number 12 I think. Gosh, what a difference a year and a half makes. I was desperate to get out, playing the lottery every week, dreaming of a little house to rent for me and the kids. Then accepting I couldn’t make the move as I simply couldn’t afford it. It took me another six months, but I did it! I got out.

DP and I limped on for another year. I felt more in control and was quite happy. No more eggshells, no more having to keep pretending I was fine when I wasn’t, no more putting up with his extreme sensitivity to any perceived criticism which made it very difficult for me to ask him not to do something as he would sense criticism and fly into a rage. I took to just cleaning up after his mess as asking him to do it would be seen as nagging and criticism, but even then he would shout at me, telling me to leave his mess alone and he would get to it himself (except we all know he wouldn’t !). So having to live in perpetual mess and lack of cleanliness which I found unbearable.

We were much better living apart. We spent the weekends together that we didn’t have our respective DC. And these were pleasant enough for a while. Though he became unemployed (again) for several months. When this happened before I had to use literally all the proceeds from my divorce to keep us afloat, paying the rent and bills on a big house for us all. It’s left me with nothing. Thank god I got out when I did as I would have had to have got into a shared debt situation to keep the roof over our heads. This time, his unemployment didn’t affect me. He has accrued even more debt. It would have caused me immense stress and sleepless nights. I was very grateful to my former self for moving out when I did and avoiding that shit storm.

I became ill not long after this. I am on the road to recovery now (but it’s been a very rough six months). I did it without his support. He just wasn’t there for me. One time he was supposed to take me to one of my hospital appointments but failed to show up at the agreed time or even get in contact! I took myself in the end (it was a horrible and scary appointment which is why he had offered to take me) and I sat there alone, frightened and crying in the waiting room, let down once again, and not knowing what was wrong with me. On my birthday too! It was just another example of him being completely unreliable and making promises he can’t keep. Of course he was apologetic and full of excuses. I cared not.

I found myself caring less and less. I have my life and he has his. He worked for a few weeks and is now out of work again. He spends his days looking for a job or propping up the local bar, talking to his “friends”. I suspect he got himself a new younger girlfriend. I found that amusing rather than hurtful.

I eventually said enough is enough. It is over. We don’t have a place in our lives for each other any more. He tried to get me to “talk” but is so bad at communication that he approached this with a mixture of head in the sand or wanting to tell me all about his needs. I said I’ve no interest in discussing anything, wished him well (resisted the urge to mention the new girlfriend), said I’d be in touch about getting my bits from his house and vice versa.

Apparently he is very “upset”.

I wish I’d ended it four or five years ago when I started to see the real him. I’d have lot more money for a start! No point having regrets though, is there? I suppose we did have lots of nice times and I was happy periodically, until one of his rages, followed usually by him telling me how very “upset” HE was. (If I never have to hear the word “upset” again I shall be ever thankful!!). I feel empowered and strong. If I can get through the last year (which has been the hardest of my life), then I can do anything.

Not sure I’m ready to meet a new man yet, or ever really. The thought is terrifying! I don’t trust my judgement. I can’t imagine ever depending on anyone again. I do know one thing: I will never get into a relationship with an autistic man again. Not if my life depended on it. There’s a reason both me and his ex consider ourselves survivors of domestic abuse. I don’t have any hard feelings. I feel very little. A bit sad for him really, even though he’s treated me especially appallingly the last few months. I think Busty stopped being attentive and useful so he just stopped speaking to me! It was very weird. But was the push I needed to ask myself what does this man bring to my life?! Nothing but disappointment. An occasional nice evening is simply not worth it. I am better off alone. (My friends are over the moon!!)

If anyone is in the early stages of a relationship like I was, thinking they can make it work or it will get better…. It won’t. You will lose. Get out if you can.

Love and strength to you all. Xx

WindyW · 08/03/2026 15:43

Ah Busty sorry to hear you were unwell. That sounds awful. I think about the pink kettle a lot, I think you’ve had a big impact on the threads, on all of us ❤️

OscarCharlieTango · 08/03/2026 15:44

Oh this all resonates
emotionally I’m so lonely but keeping it together
a lot of time managing his emotions - social
anxiety, we have no mutual friends and only go out as a couple if I arrange it
I organise my own birthdays, buy my own gifts.
he hates what I buy him - clothes have to be 100% cotton as he hates artificial fibers, will often say he doesn’t want gifts/ fuss for birthday
happiest watching TV and drinking

and I just .. at 51.. have come to accept that this is all I can expect/want. And blowing up our family life (three teen/uni age daughters) feels like I would be hurting everyone selfishly.

it’s upsetting when I think about it so I pursue my own hobbies and interests which is taken as me opting out

I also have a demanding full time job which gives us financial stability. He is unable to plan ahead financially. He has no savings, pensions or a will.

sorry that all just came out! But the bread hit a nerve.

we have a lot of affection for each other, we still care a lot x

BustyLaRoux · 08/03/2026 16:17

WindyW · 08/03/2026 15:43

Ah Busty sorry to hear you were unwell. That sounds awful. I think about the pink kettle a lot, I think you’ve had a big impact on the threads, on all of us ❤️

Aw thanks Windy! I’m actually on the mend now. Hooray! My physical health took a battering which impacted my mental health quite badly. Perimenopause crept up unawares and made the whole thing even worse.

Yes that pink kettle is a daily reminder how far I’ve come. I thought once I got away everything would be fine, little did I know what lay ahead! A chronic pain condition developing, lots of investigations, a big surprise dose of hormonal Hell, my lovely boss leaving very suddenly and the new one completely shaking everything up (years of my work undone!) and wondering if I would be able to keep my job, all the while trying to support DP from afar when I had nothing left in my own tank. I should have been signed off work but I needed to prove my worth so I kept going and going. I very nearly broke myself.

But I did it. For anyone who thinks they can’t do the impossible: you might surprise yourself! There were a few of us I seem to recall who were on the verge of getting out. @SpecialMangeTout3 you were at one point? @ItReallyDoesntMatterAnymore was even looking at flats I think. @ANiceLittleHouseByTheSeaWithACatCalledBrenda was dreaming of a house and a cat (unsurprisingly!)

I know circumstances change. No judgement for those who couldn’t manage it in the end. It isn’t easy and we are allowed to change our minds/bide our time if needs be. Xx

SpecialMangeTout3 · 08/03/2026 16:19

@BustyLaRoux if I’m honest, I was quite relieved when you cam back in this thread and it became clear you weren’t together with your ex anymore.

Im sorry he let you down so badly at the exact time you desperately needed him. 🫂🫂
I really hope the next 6 months will be easier and you’ll have totally recovered by them

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NDisthisit · 08/03/2026 16:21

@SpecialMangeTout3 wave 👋 hello - thank you so much for the reply - you are right - when you are ill you just don’t have the energy to explain everything. We had an ~argument~ talk last night and he did admit after
me going around in circles, that he kind of malfunctions when I’m ill. As in the routine is different ie taking my dinner upstairs - he just can’t get his head around that I didn’t eat in the lounge as that’s where we eat… not the bedroom. Lots more was said but I feel worn out with the way his brain thinks - I know I’m far from perfect but he makes me feel so stupid. He is highly intelligent and can twist things in a heartbeat so I feel like the unreasonable one who doesn’t understand his needs.
my son is 25 so just laughed and said - of course not ( as to not eating in the lounge) she doesn’t feel well.

BustyLaRoux · 08/03/2026 16:23

OscarCharlieTango · 08/03/2026 15:44

Oh this all resonates
emotionally I’m so lonely but keeping it together
a lot of time managing his emotions - social
anxiety, we have no mutual friends and only go out as a couple if I arrange it
I organise my own birthdays, buy my own gifts.
he hates what I buy him - clothes have to be 100% cotton as he hates artificial fibers, will often say he doesn’t want gifts/ fuss for birthday
happiest watching TV and drinking

and I just .. at 51.. have come to accept that this is all I can expect/want. And blowing up our family life (three teen/uni age daughters) feels like I would be hurting everyone selfishly.

it’s upsetting when I think about it so I pursue my own hobbies and interests which is taken as me opting out

I also have a demanding full time job which gives us financial stability. He is unable to plan ahead financially. He has no savings, pensions or a will.

sorry that all just came out! But the bread hit a nerve.

we have a lot of affection for each other, we still care a lot x

Could you/would you leave? I know you said you do have affection for him and also that you don’t want to throw a grenade at family life, but you don’t owe people your one precious life. 51 isn’t old really (I’m right behind you!). You could have many decades. Is it enough? Can you entertain a different life? My DC are OK with the fact I’m not with their dad. I also really invested more time in my family and friendships and have a lot of lovely experiences with them. I know you said you’ve accepted this is it, but is it? Could you do the impossible?

BustyLaRoux · 08/03/2026 16:25

SpecialMangeTout3 · 08/03/2026 16:19

@BustyLaRoux if I’m honest, I was quite relieved when you cam back in this thread and it became clear you weren’t together with your ex anymore.

Im sorry he let you down so badly at the exact time you desperately needed him. 🫂🫂
I really hope the next 6 months will be easier and you’ll have totally recovered by them

Turns out I didn’t need him after all! I am enough! 😃

SpecialMangeTout3 · 08/03/2026 16:28

@BustyLaRoux yep I was at the point of jumping ship despite the fact I’d have ended up really really poor.

But dh started to step up last summer and it has made things much more manageable. Now I’m dealing autistic issues rather than grumpiness/abusive (?) behaviour stemming from PDA+autism+avoidance isywim

If I’m honest, I’d love to just be on my own. I have a hell of a lot to deal with in my own life (unrelated to dh) and I often dream to just escape far from everyone.

But, when it comes to leaving, calculations when you’re ill, disabled, housebound, unable to work are pretty different than if you’re still working and healthy enough. Choices are much more stark and about physical preservation rather than just ‘my needs aren’t met. I’m not seen etc…’
However, it is what it is.
At some point, things will change again. But just now, they are tolerable/ok.

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BustyLaRoux · 08/03/2026 16:29

NDisthisit · 08/03/2026 16:21

@SpecialMangeTout3 wave 👋 hello - thank you so much for the reply - you are right - when you are ill you just don’t have the energy to explain everything. We had an ~argument~ talk last night and he did admit after
me going around in circles, that he kind of malfunctions when I’m ill. As in the routine is different ie taking my dinner upstairs - he just can’t get his head around that I didn’t eat in the lounge as that’s where we eat… not the bedroom. Lots more was said but I feel worn out with the way his brain thinks - I know I’m far from perfect but he makes me feel so stupid. He is highly intelligent and can twist things in a heartbeat so I feel like the unreasonable one who doesn’t understand his needs.
my son is 25 so just laughed and said - of course not ( as to not eating in the lounge) she doesn’t feel well.

Please don’t say you’re not perfect. It’s a way we have of telling ourselves we somehow deserve what we’ve ended up with. Of course you should eat wherever you feel most comfortable. Why anyone would take exception to this (because “we eat downstairs!”) FFS! You don’t have to live by his silly rules and face displeasure when you don’t abide! Sorry he made you feel worse when you already felt rubbish!

NDisthisit · 08/03/2026 16:32

@BustyLaRouxhello - I am so sorry you’ve had such a hard time and hoping that things improve for you. The bit the jumped out at me on your post was the flying into rages at perceived criticism.. my ‘D’ H months ago threw his dinner at the wall after yet another conversation ( can’t even remember what it was about) where he felt I was having a go at him… so I can’t say anything now. I can’t bite my tongue anymore ( not that I do anyway) but I just can’t be bothered to ask him to bath or shower more = I think he smells, when I should
know he can’t stand the feel of water on his skin. The list goes on and on!
socks only a certain brand, coffee only certain type, coffee cup, a thin enough lip. Chair a hard back… honestly it’s like
living with a bad tempered male goldilocks!

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