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To ask out cute cafe guy or not...

165 replies

Sodthesystem · 06/11/2025 21:30

So, I was out for lunch with a friend the other day and there was this guy I notic

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Sakura7 · 06/11/2025 23:53

Dery · 06/11/2025 23:36

“wandawaves · Today 23:31

He has given you absolutely no indication that he's even remotely interested in you OP. Leave him alone, he's just trying to do his job.”

For me, it’s this. From what you say, it doesn’t sound as if he was at all aware of you. I think it would be presumptuous to pass him your tel no at this point. But maybe if you’re able to visit over time, there will be a chance of building some kind of rapport in which case there would be a context to offering him your tel no.

Agree with this. Seems an odd thing to do when OP seemingly hasn't even spoken to him.

Finto1111 · 06/11/2025 23:53

MsCactus · 06/11/2025 23:52

Do it! Honestly I have brothers (and a husband) and it surprises me how rarely men get hit on or complimented in public.

One of my brothers still talks about the time he got on a tube and a group of girls said "nice view" at him. I think even if he's taken or not interested it'll make his day

Were they talking about the view out of the window?

YesIReallyDidOK · 06/11/2025 23:54

PixieandMe · 06/11/2025 23:27

Disagree. And lighten up.

Worked as a receptionist all my life. Was never miserable about being chatted up but agreed it’s part of the job sometimes. Sometimes annoying, sometimes flattering, some people meet their significant other that way.

You aren’t suited to customer facing work.

Putting up with sexual harassment is not part of a customer facing job.

Putting up with shitty customers, rude customers, lying customers etc etc are all part of a customer facing role, yes. Suggesting that sexual harassment falls into the same category as 'shit customer behaviour ' is inaccurate, and suggesting that someone isn't suited to customer facing work because they won't accept sexual harassment would indicate a hefty amount of internalised misogyny.

MsCactus · 06/11/2025 23:55

Finto1111 · 06/11/2025 23:53

Were they talking about the view out of the window?

Edited

Haha. Apparently he thought so at first - but then they made it clear it was him.

Honestly... It's been years and he still goes on about it.

RealPerson · 06/11/2025 23:55

I wouldn't be brave enough to do this. I've had this guy on my mind for 10 months. We were friends several years ago. But I could never reach out to him

Sodthesystem · 06/11/2025 23:57

Sakura7 · 06/11/2025 23:53

Agree with this. Seems an odd thing to do when OP seemingly hasn't even spoken to him.

I mean it's no different from online dating (well it is but it's like the opposite differencs).You've never spoken to them either but you match and you have no idea if you'll fancy them in person but you go out.

This way I know I fancy him at least. And he seems pleasant. And he has a job. Let's face it, that's more than you know before you go on a date sometimes xD

He may be missing the bio but TBF most men don't fill that in anyway lol.

And what about snogging in nightclubs. Chances are you've never said two words to that person either xD. And this is just giving him my number not my lips lol.

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The1in21and1111 · 06/11/2025 23:59

Jesus, what is with the negativity on here?

Why are people just so into this "Woke" nonsense?!

If you are into him then absolutely ask him out, or tell him you are at least interested.

If he says no, or gets all embarrassed or awkward then shit happens!

Not going to end the world.

Finto1111 · 07/11/2025 00:02

RealPerson · 06/11/2025 23:55

I wouldn't be brave enough to do this. I've had this guy on my mind for 10 months. We were friends several years ago. But I could never reach out to him

Do it! .

Sakura7 · 07/11/2025 00:05

Sodthesystem · 06/11/2025 23:57

I mean it's no different from online dating (well it is but it's like the opposite differencs).You've never spoken to them either but you match and you have no idea if you'll fancy them in person but you go out.

This way I know I fancy him at least. And he seems pleasant. And he has a job. Let's face it, that's more than you know before you go on a date sometimes xD

He may be missing the bio but TBF most men don't fill that in anyway lol.

And what about snogging in nightclubs. Chances are you've never said two words to that person either xD. And this is just giving him my number not my lips lol.

Edited

Of course it's different to online dating, where both parties have put themselves in a position to message and meet people. So contact is expected. This guy is just doing his job.

Also I hope you wouldn't just go up and snog a random guy without any indication that he's interested too.

Sodthesystem · 07/11/2025 00:05

YesIReallyDidOK · 06/11/2025 23:54

Putting up with sexual harassment is not part of a customer facing job.

Putting up with shitty customers, rude customers, lying customers etc etc are all part of a customer facing role, yes. Suggesting that sexual harassment falls into the same category as 'shit customer behaviour ' is inaccurate, and suggesting that someone isn't suited to customer facing work because they won't accept sexual harassment would indicate a hefty amount of internalised misogyny.

Yes but we're a bit off topic because giving someone your number is not harassment. If you kept showing up and badgering them then yes, absolutely.

That's also why Im reluctant to take up suggestions that I go along and try to strike up conversation whilst he is working. That would possibly be irritating for someone just trying to work. And if I were flirting it might make him uncomfortable.

But a quick hello, here's my number and cheerio. Meh. Not something I see a guy having a problem with tbh.

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Notascouser1990 · 07/11/2025 00:06

No. I'm your age and recently got asked for my # by a 25 year old. I declined. I just can't see myself with anyone under 30.

Finto1111 · 07/11/2025 00:08

Sakura7 · 07/11/2025 00:05

Of course it's different to online dating, where both parties have put themselves in a position to message and meet people. So contact is expected. This guy is just doing his job.

Also I hope you wouldn't just go up and snog a random guy without any indication that he's interested too.

Random men just come up and ask women out all the time.

I was in the gym the othet day. A man i had never seem before came up to me and asked me did I want to go for a coffee.

I said No. He took the No. We went on with our lives.

It wasnt that i didnt like him really. He actually was attractive

I just was really not in the mood to date ANYONE at that time.

Its not that big of a deal

And if you get rejected OP remember rejection is not often even about you, sometimes the person doesn't want to date anyone at all.

No harm in asking. You won't know unless you ask

Crushed23 · 07/11/2025 00:08

OMG

Does he work at a bakery/cafe in Canary Wharf and is he called Sam?!

I fell for him last year too 😂

Incidentally I was 35 as well, but I’ve always gone for younger men. I didn’t have the balls to ask him out, plus he didn’t seem particularly interested in me, so I left it. But that doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t go for it, OP. What have you got to lose? Good luck!

Sodthesystem · 07/11/2025 00:08

RealPerson · 06/11/2025 23:55

I wouldn't be brave enough to do this. I've had this guy on my mind for 10 months. We were friends several years ago. But I could never reach out to him

Awe you should!

I guess it's hard in different ways though cause there's probably feelings there too not just fancy.

I'm sure if he's your friend he'll be happy to hear from you though! You could just ask for a catch up as friends and sus things out from there?

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Finto1111 · 07/11/2025 00:09

Crushed23 · 07/11/2025 00:08

OMG

Does he work at a bakery/cafe in Canary Wharf and is he called Sam?!

I fell for him last year too 😂

Incidentally I was 35 as well, but I’ve always gone for younger men. I didn’t have the balls to ask him out, plus he didn’t seem particularly interested in me, so I left it. But that doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t go for it, OP. What have you got to lose? Good luck!

The chances aren't very high that it is the same man....

Beekman · 07/11/2025 00:11

How is it like online dating? With OLD, you know you’re both up for something, possibly not with each other but you’re putting yourself out there. This fella is just going to work. You have no idea if this bloke is straight, single or looking.

An influencer I followed once fancied a bloke in similar circumstances and insisted they had a connection. She went on to find him on insta and message him and although he was actually good about it (he was married and not interested), you could tell he was actually quite perturbed by it all. It really divided her followers, some saying it was fine to seek him out like this and others saying she was out of order.

People are entitled to go to work and not have customers approach them because they fancy them.

Sodthesystem · 07/11/2025 00:15

Crushed23 · 07/11/2025 00:08

OMG

Does he work at a bakery/cafe in Canary Wharf and is he called Sam?!

I fell for him last year too 😂

Incidentally I was 35 as well, but I’ve always gone for younger men. I didn’t have the balls to ask him out, plus he didn’t seem particularly interested in me, so I left it. But that doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t go for it, OP. What have you got to lose? Good luck!

Haha no! I love Canary wharf though.

Yeah I mean it sounds like you sussed it out and decided against it. Then again he may have been too busy and just not expecting someone to show interest.

I mean I guess I could test the water with a flirt or two first but...knowing me I'd trip over my words and he'd think I was having a stroke lol.

The world must be filled with these crushes that go unsaid. Sam's loss!

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RealPerson · 07/11/2025 00:15

I don't feel like I could do it in a casual way. Because there was an undeniable connection there, and I cut him out my life. (Got tired of waiting) Also I have no way to contact him. He could contact me me thru my family though. I wish he would. I imagine just running into him randomly. Its funny how you can love someone and not really get how important they are till it's too late

Sodthesystem · 07/11/2025 00:17

Beekman · 07/11/2025 00:11

How is it like online dating? With OLD, you know you’re both up for something, possibly not with each other but you’re putting yourself out there. This fella is just going to work. You have no idea if this bloke is straight, single or looking.

An influencer I followed once fancied a bloke in similar circumstances and insisted they had a connection. She went on to find him on insta and message him and although he was actually good about it (he was married and not interested), you could tell he was actually quite perturbed by it all. It really divided her followers, some saying it was fine to seek him out like this and others saying she was out of order.

People are entitled to go to work and not have customers approach them because they fancy them.

You're right, I do have no idea. That's why I'd be giving him by number. So that if he is straight and interested, he can choose to contact me.
Or not.

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Finto1111 · 07/11/2025 00:18

Oh just give him the number.

Sodthesystem · 07/11/2025 00:21

RealPerson · 07/11/2025 00:15

I don't feel like I could do it in a casual way. Because there was an undeniable connection there, and I cut him out my life. (Got tired of waiting) Also I have no way to contact him. He could contact me me thru my family though. I wish he would. I imagine just running into him randomly. Its funny how you can love someone and not really get how important they are till it's too late

I mean to be fair it sounds like he was wasting your time so, maybe the reason he's so important is actually because he showed you that even if you like someone, you are worth a certain degree of treatment and that you can act that way in respect of yourself and cut off people who don't value you.

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Yeah I mean guys these days keep saying they are scared to approach women and mostly I'd say that's a cop out but some of the replies here make me wonder lol.

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EconomyClassRockstar · 07/11/2025 00:31

Kat888 · 06/11/2025 22:06

Omg what is wrong with everyone. Where is the romance?

I say go for it but maybe ask him to follow you on social media as it's less weird or try to find out his name and add him. I've done this and it worked. Go for it life is short.

Yeah, go the old fashioned way and ask for his Snap 😂

Subwaystop · 07/11/2025 00:35

Subwaystop · 06/11/2025 23:40

Go for it. The pearl clutchers here act like just expressing. Interest in someone is sexual harassment. Putting forth interest and graciously accepting to response is how the world goes round. It probably won’t work out but hey, maybe it will!

So many will do a gender reversal. “Imagine do this was a man asking.” But you know what? It isn’t.

The problem with lecherous men who make such moves is they express the inherent power imbalance between them and the women they prey on. They express their lack of empathy and caring for the women they bother.

They know when the woman isn’t interested, and still they push. They pretend not to read the woman’s physical tell tale signs that she’s uncomfortable. Her physical withdrawal and fake laugh and nervous niceness. They see it and know the woman is too scared or uncomfortable, or she trained to be nice to say, so she won’t what she really feels. And they take advantage of that. And keep pushing her.

How many women will do this? Very few. Most will not engage in a song and dance where their male object of interest feels compelled to go along with a charade. It’s just so different. The issue is so different when it’s abusive men.

I’ve no idea what up with my typos. I should look at what I type 😳