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Dating thread 53 - 2025. Cuffing Season

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ElleintheWoods · 21/10/2025 20:20

The Rules:

  • The first rule about the dating thread is don't talk about it with people you're dating
  • Develop a thick skin
  • Do not invest emotionally too soon
  • It's all BS until it actually happens
  • Trust your gut instinct
  • People vanishing, lying & being generally weird is not your fault
  • Know your wortH
  • If it's not fun, stop
  • Loo update is mandatory
  • No dating the thread
  • Treat others as you'd like to be treated
  • Any relationship you have that could get ruined by having a conversation about your feelings, standards and/or expectations wasn't really stable enough to begin with
  • The things you choose to ignore/ tolerate now are the reasons you will break up in the future
  • OLD can get very time consuming. Keep doing other activities you enjoy

Optional: Please give your irons (potential dates you are talking to) nicknames like Mr Scottish. Initials are allowed (Mr S) when you are an item*

OP posts:
Jokethecoalwoman · 11/12/2025 04:01

First night together after knowing for ages, dates etc.... arrived at the hotel (he lives in a different city)....smelled unpleasant. I went to the bathroom - skids in toilet. Why would you do this when you know your date is about to turn up for a night of passion??!! Also had socks and boxers drying/hanging on radiator.

NervesOfCotton · 11/12/2025 09:08

BeAppleNow · 10/12/2025 23:10

So this might seem like a daft question, but rather than dropping hints- why don’t you simply ask to meet ?
when I was on the apps, chats never turned into dates unless I asked - which seemed so odd to me as the D in OLD is obviously Dating - but women ( in my experience) never seem to actually ask for a date 🤷🏻

When I was on the dating site with a Forum this question came up a lot & there are many women who simply will not ask as they view it as the male role.

I've said this on here before, I'm happy to ask although I have had a few men say that if the woman asks then it makes her seem desperate, so... (I still ask myself, if I want to meet them. I had a lovely couple of dates once with a man who said he'd never ask the woman as he's too scared they will think he's pushy, so if I didn't ask then these dates would never have happened!)

CleanShirt · 11/12/2025 10:11

Sent a "still on for tonight?" message at 8am. Place your bets on the time of the not unexpected cancellation/ ghosting now! 🤣

NervesOfCotton · 11/12/2025 10:45

CleanShirt What time were you supposed to be meeting? (Also, is your username from Peep Show?!)

CleanShirt · 11/12/2025 10:50

NervesOfCotton · 11/12/2025 10:45

CleanShirt What time were you supposed to be meeting? (Also, is your username from Peep Show?!)

Yes! 🤣

Supposed to be meeting at 7, place arranged and everything but comms have definitely been lacking in the last couple of days

NervesOfCotton · 11/12/2025 10:52
Grin

Ugh it's not looking good, is it.

CleanShirt · 11/12/2025 11:07

Nope! Was supposed to meet on Sunday but he had an emergency (know it was genuine) and arranged to meet tonight, and a pub, after work. But definitely dribs and drabs of messages this week.

NervesOfCotton · 11/12/2025 12:06

CleanShirt I think if it were me then I'd tell him that I've made other plans now (if you do hear from him) it's not like you didn't try to confirm things this morning.

BeAppleNow · 11/12/2025 13:43

NervesOfCotton · 11/12/2025 09:08

When I was on the dating site with a Forum this question came up a lot & there are many women who simply will not ask as they view it as the male role.

I've said this on here before, I'm happy to ask although I have had a few men say that if the woman asks then it makes her seem desperate, so... (I still ask myself, if I want to meet them. I had a lovely couple of dates once with a man who said he'd never ask the woman as he's too scared they will think he's pushy, so if I didn't ask then these dates would never have happened!)

That attitude is a bit silly really- it feels like (some) complaining about men not doing something, but then still sitting on their own hands

Kaltenzahn · 11/12/2025 14:19

BeAppleNow · 11/12/2025 13:43

That attitude is a bit silly really- it feels like (some) complaining about men not doing something, but then still sitting on their own hands

I think it's just a difference in attitudes/values. Some women are happy to ask a man out, some women would rather be asked out. Some men would be thrilled to be asked out by a woman, some men would be put off (as @NervesOfCotton mentioned).

I'm happy to ask a man out and if he's put off by that it's no loss because a man who would be put off by something like that clearly has different values to me and we wouldn't be compatible. I might roll my eyes and think it's a bit ridiculous but we're all entitled to our preferences.

Some women like a man to ask them out, pick them up, pay the bill and some men also enjoy that role. While it's not my cup of tea two people who shared that attitude could be compatible and have a great relationship.

Nosdacariad · 11/12/2025 14:41

bluedabadeedabadoo · 10/12/2025 22:48

So went for first date tonight with Mr Psychologist. He was actually different to what i expected. He is perfect on paper and very lovely and interesting. We have some things in common and we got on well. I didn’t feel there was a spark and he isn’t quite as
good looking as in his pics but still very pleasant and I would like to get to know him more. He did give me a hug both at the start and end of the date. I do however feel a little bit intimidated by him and due to this I had this constant feeling coming home that I wasn’t good enough for him, what would he see in me etc. I get these feelings anyway but I think with him as he has a very powerful job, this makes me feel it even more (even though my job is probably equal to his in terms of power and pay). He text as soon as he got home and it was all good stuff. I realised I wasn’t really mirroring him so I did this and he then suggested we arrange to see each other again.
I am really worried about the extremely anxious thoughts setting in again though like they did with Mr Beard. Mr Psychologist is a lot warmer in communication which I think helps and he knows a bit about the things that make me anxious (on a very low level at this stage as I felt it important to communicate my needs) and is keen to work with that which is nice but makes me feel a little bit vulnerable.

I have actually started therapy already as I remembered I could access it at work so have my 2nd session this week which I suppose is a good time as I can work through some of this. There however will be a break over Christmas which in suspect is when things will spike.
It seems like there’s been quite a bit of positivity today in here 🥰

@bluedabadeedabadoo there are online resources to help you with anxiety in dating. Lots of them.

He clearly thinks you're good enough!

Nosdacariad · 11/12/2025 14:43

Jokethecoalwoman · 11/12/2025 04:01

First night together after knowing for ages, dates etc.... arrived at the hotel (he lives in a different city)....smelled unpleasant. I went to the bathroom - skids in toilet. Why would you do this when you know your date is about to turn up for a night of passion??!! Also had socks and boxers drying/hanging on radiator.

Oh dear God. What did you do?

Nosdacariad · 11/12/2025 14:45

Yeah, it's only a week tomorrow so I may say something at the weekend.

Instinct tells me it will be 👻👻👻

bluedabadeedabadoo · 11/12/2025 14:48

Nosdacariad · 11/12/2025 14:41

@bluedabadeedabadoo there are online resources to help you with anxiety in dating. Lots of them.

He clearly thinks you're good enough!

I’ve exhausted it all honestly. It doesn’t help in the moment. I know all the techniques etc but in the moment nothing helps. I actually find chat GPT the best. I’ll ask her if there is anything k can access over Christmas. I think there is a text service but to be fair I think that’s just the same as chat gpt

Nosdacariad · 11/12/2025 15:01

bluedabadeedabadoo · 11/12/2025 14:48

I’ve exhausted it all honestly. It doesn’t help in the moment. I know all the techniques etc but in the moment nothing helps. I actually find chat GPT the best. I’ll ask her if there is anything k can access over Christmas. I think there is a text service but to be fair I think that’s just the same as chat gpt

Or come on here.

@BeAppleNow glad your monk-like season has ended 😉

CleanShirt · 11/12/2025 15:02

CleanShirt · 11/12/2025 10:11

Sent a "still on for tonight?" message at 8am. Place your bets on the time of the not unexpected cancellation/ ghosting now! 🤣

3pm. No reply and left on read. Oh well!

Nosdacariad · 11/12/2025 15:04

CleanShirt · 11/12/2025 15:02

3pm. No reply and left on read. Oh well!

Walk away and don't look back. He's given you good info there.

It has happened to me too.

NervesOfCotton · 11/12/2025 15:05

bluedabadeedabadoo I've used the 'Shout' text service before.

Kaltenzahn Absolutely, it's all about compatibility!

CleanShirt · 11/12/2025 15:08

Nosdacariad · 11/12/2025 15:04

Walk away and don't look back. He's given you good info there.

It has happened to me too.

Oh deffo. Into the abyss of ghosts he goes!

NervesOfCotton · 11/12/2025 15:10

CleanShirt On to the next!
The abyss of ghosts... I love some of the sayings that people write on here!

CleanShirt · 11/12/2025 15:18

NervesOfCotton · 11/12/2025 15:10

CleanShirt On to the next!
The abyss of ghosts... I love some of the sayings that people write on here!

I swear it's just like a quarry of people avoiding WhatsApp or writing things like "sorry but...."

bluedabadeedabadoo · 11/12/2025 18:27

Nosdacariad · 11/12/2025 15:01

Or come on here.

@BeAppleNow glad your monk-like season has ended 😉

Yep this thread was really good when I was in the peak on anxiety when dating someone a few weeks ago.

PinkNeonSign · 11/12/2025 20:27

@CleanShirt I’ve been ghosted today too!

I’ve been texting MrEngineer for weeks, we tried to meet up once, it didn’t work out but we carried on messaging. I’d suggested I could call him for a chat tonight…nothing!

I was kind of looking for a mandate to get out of it anyway as it went well with Mr Mathematician last weekend and we’re supposed to be seeing each other again and I don’t feel right about messaging other men now (I think it’s fine but just not my style). Mr Elusive not an issue as he’s back in his elusive era!

ElleintheWoods · 11/12/2025 22:01

Nosdacariad · 09/12/2025 21:57

@ElleintheWoods Mr RFP are these horizontal chores he's finishing prematurely?!

They are indeed. I kind of know why, but it's still frustrating.

However as I said, he's as good as it gets right now, I like that he's open and vulnerable with me, and looove that he's so physical, constantly holding hands, hugging me, me sitting in his lap, little massages without further intent. He's really reminding me how important this is for me when being with a man, and how long I've not had that for.

OP posts:
superplumb · 11/12/2025 22:30

Eesha · 04/12/2025 09:55

@justsurvivingnotthriving i thought it would be easier but it has a whole lot of other issues. My colleague has a partner with no kids but the dad isnt really on the scene so her partner does all the childcare and treats the child like his child. Whereas in my situation, i have an ex but i do 99% of the childcare as he is 'busy'. Thankfully i have family who enabled me to have a life/relationship.

It saddens me hugely that women who are doing their best for their kids, and in my case left an abusive relationship, are almost left on the shelf till the children are so much older simply because we have real responsibilities. And im lucky because i have the childcare, many just dont have time/resources to waste. Whereas a lot of men just dont have that, mostly seeing their kids every other weekend, leaving them 12 days to date others.

Both my long term exes got married this year and both married women with no jobs and grown up kids - and i think can devote themselves to their husbands completely.

Same
My stupid ex sees the kids for a hours a week. Thankfully I have a support network to help with childcare.

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