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Trying to make sense of my latest awful dating experience.

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LastsliceofBattenberg · 04/10/2025 14:21

Just need to vent really. Met a man on a dating app a month ago . Both of us mid-40s. I have kids but he doesn’t. At first he seemed like he was head and shoulders above previous dates as he was clear about interest in seeing me, consistent in contacting me and well-mannered. He was also good at planning dates. Second date he had baked me a cake I mentioned I liked. Third date he brought me something else home-made. The sexual connection was the best I’ve ever had although he did overstep boundaries a couple of times in terms of doing something I consider not standard without checking it was ok first. He booked a mini break for us for two nights (which I won’t be going on now).

I did notice on dates that he barely asked anything about me and I had to do a lot of the conversational heavy-lifting. A lack of curiosity about me and lack of asking any follow up questions if I told him something about myself. I also almost walked away early on as he divulged that he and his wife had lost a baby to SIDS and he referred to the baby as “it” and spoke in a really disconnected way about her. It seemed so dehumanising and I suspected he had unprocessed trauma.

He did all the lovely stuff though like wanting to cuddle me in bed for hours which I had really been missing. He could be quite considerate eg remembering my food preferences etc.

We were meant to go out for dinner last night and he was going to stay over even though I had a very early train to catch this morning. I came down with flu symptoms Thursday evening (told him
at the time) and by Friday morning I felt wretched. I also developed cystitis and was passing blood. So I messaged in the morning yesterday to explain what was going on and got this message “Are you cancelling on me now?” No concern for me at all. I explained that I was simply being considerate about not passing germs on to him and I would have to see how I felt a bit later. He apologised for his terse message (blamed it on being in the car) and said he would still like to come over and cuddle. As the day went on I felt worse and worse and so I messaged at 11.30am to cancel the whole evening. I didn’t want him staying over as know I just needed to sleep and I can’t sleep well with a new man in my bed. I emphasised how much I wanted to see him and offered alternative dates. It took him 3 hours to respond and all I got was “Ok…. supper cancelled.” That was it. Nothing for the rest of the day.

This morning I caved and messaged to ask what was going on. I got very terse responses saying he was upset and could not see how things could progress if we can only see each other for “the odd evening.” He said it was a shame as he thought there may have been potential. I’ve seen him multiple times per week, sometimes just for a dog walk of the kids were home but also for sleepovers and meals out. This week… saw him Friday night for meal, Saturday dog walk, Sunday dog walk, Wednesday sleepover!

I know it was only short-lived but I’ve had such a rubbish time dating and he was the first one I could see potential with in so long. I just don’t understand how you can do a 180 like this… feel I have whiplash. I know the sulking is a huge red flag and there is no going back from here. Not sure what I’m looking for from this other than your thoughts on the situation. How do you go from telling someone that it means so much to hold them all night and planning trips away to just freezing them out when they don’t do what you want one time. Just feel sad and worn down today.

OP posts:
Lolopolo · 05/10/2025 18:18

Thebigonesgetaway · 05/10/2025 17:49

Oh cmon, they were obvious this time. He did things in bed without asking. Didn’t ask her questions about herself. Booked a weekend away, which bizzarely she agreed to go on. And she shagged him again even though she knew he did things you’d normally seek consent for. I fully agree sometimes they aren’t obvious, but not “never obvious”and this time they were right in her face. And I’ve a bad feeling she’s going to run back and let him treat her however he pleases just so she can be with him.

There’s always one who says something like this on these threads and it’s utter bull.

Roodlegum · 05/10/2025 18:19

Lolopolo · 05/10/2025 18:18

There’s always one who says something like this on these threads and it’s utter bull.

I thought it was spot on 🤷‍♀️

Owly11 · 05/10/2025 18:23

You ignored quite a lot of red flags before getting to this point. Maybe nip things in the bud a bit sooner next time.

LastsliceofBattenberg · 05/10/2025 18:29

toxicjobrec · 05/10/2025 15:48

Gosh, some of you really enjoy needling a lady when she's down.

I think the op is hearing the message loud and clear that this guy was bad news. A little empathy for someone who has been on her own for a while, wants romantic love, and thought she'd got a glimpse of it wouldn't go amiss.

Op, I hope you're feeling better on both fronts! I echo the other posters saying you've had a lucky escape from this man; his control and sulking would have escalated. The way this fling has played out says nothing about your value and everything about his manipulation. You'll be wiser next time, but I'd urge you to drop his things off and not engage further. He will use it as an excuse to reel you in again, and it will drive you crazy. Listen to your gut. He's bad news. There are empathetic and attractive men out there who will find you interesting and won't cross your boundaries. Now you're free to meet them should you wish to.

Thank you. Your message made me well up a bit. I am feeling better thank you. He has messaged again asking to see me this evening and I’ve told him I do not wish to see him again, made arrangements to get his belongings back to him and now blocked him.

That news may disappoint some of the posters who seem to have got a kick out of declaring that I’ll most likely go right back to him as I’m so weak, desperate and friendless. Some of you sound quite unpleasant. Thanks you to those of you who have shown some empathy. I knew there was no coming back from this based on his behaviour but just needed to talk it out. X

OP posts:
Gymbunny2025 · 05/10/2025 18:31

LastsliceofBattenberg · 05/10/2025 18:29

Thank you. Your message made me well up a bit. I am feeling better thank you. He has messaged again asking to see me this evening and I’ve told him I do not wish to see him again, made arrangements to get his belongings back to him and now blocked him.

That news may disappoint some of the posters who seem to have got a kick out of declaring that I’ll most likely go right back to him as I’m so weak, desperate and friendless. Some of you sound quite unpleasant. Thanks you to those of you who have shown some empathy. I knew there was no coming back from this based on his behaviour but just needed to talk it out. X

Well done!

LastsliceofBattenberg · 05/10/2025 18:31

@Woolyminded I’m sorry you had that experience. I didn’t see your thread about it but he sounds awful. All we can do is learn from these things and move on. X

OP posts:
Pleasealexa · 05/10/2025 18:44

LastsliceofBattenberg · 05/10/2025 18:31

@Woolyminded I’m sorry you had that experience. I didn’t see your thread about it but he sounds awful. All we can do is learn from these things and move on. X

That's the attitude! Each experience will refine your filter. It's natural to be disappointed that your hopes are dashed but no one is better than a toxic relationship.

Uricon2 · 05/10/2025 18:45

LastsliceofBattenberg · 05/10/2025 18:29

Thank you. Your message made me well up a bit. I am feeling better thank you. He has messaged again asking to see me this evening and I’ve told him I do not wish to see him again, made arrangements to get his belongings back to him and now blocked him.

That news may disappoint some of the posters who seem to have got a kick out of declaring that I’ll most likely go right back to him as I’m so weak, desperate and friendless. Some of you sound quite unpleasant. Thanks you to those of you who have shown some empathy. I knew there was no coming back from this based on his behaviour but just needed to talk it out. X

Please be careful @LastsliceofBattenberg .He doesn't sound like a great person and suchlike do not like being finished with.

Shadesofscarlett · 05/10/2025 18:47

Well done. This is you trusting your gut and acting on it. I would also echo being wary and expect him to try and lure you back in. The old 'no is a complete sentence' is all you need now if he does attempt contact.

BunnyRuddington · 05/10/2025 18:53

So glad you’ve blocked him. That sounds like the right thing to have done Flowers

unhappycat · 05/10/2025 18:59

Well done @LastsliceofBattenberg- stay strong, men like these tend to not want to let go easily🩷

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 05/10/2025 19:06

YES @LastsliceofBattenberg

This is so inspiring. Well done! Please be vigilant and contact the police if you start to feel unsafe at any point

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 05/10/2025 19:07

Thebigonesgetaway · 05/10/2025 17:49

Oh cmon, they were obvious this time. He did things in bed without asking. Didn’t ask her questions about herself. Booked a weekend away, which bizzarely she agreed to go on. And she shagged him again even though she knew he did things you’d normally seek consent for. I fully agree sometimes they aren’t obvious, but not “never obvious”and this time they were right in her face. And I’ve a bad feeling she’s going to run back and let him treat her however he pleases just so she can be with him.

Oh how clever!

You’ve solved the worldwide problem of coercive control.

👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼

Toobloomeasy · 06/10/2025 11:53

I think a good starting point for you op given your benchmark seems very off… is

“would I be happy if my daughter was dating this man”

and I think that had you considered this, it would have stopped you in your tracks within a couple of hours of the first date realising he wasn’t asking you a single question.

hopefully!!

iamnotalemon · 06/10/2025 18:26

I do think it’s easy for a lot of people to give ‘dating advice’ when they’ve been married forever and have absolutely no idea what it’s like to be in your position and also be dating now, when the landscape has changed so much (for the worse).

littlemisspigg · 06/10/2025 22:11

LastsliceofBattenberg · 04/10/2025 14:47

8 dates including a mix of meals, sleepovers, walks. He spent all day with me one weekend.

It's ALL about him OP... WHEN he wants, HOW he wants, AS he wants.
The moment you start dictating the terms, (even though you did it only because you were ill ) he doesn't like it.
Lucky you got ill...it helped you figure him out. He sounds like a sociopath

FrauPaige · 06/10/2025 22:34

I think after 3.5 weeks I'd be on date 2.

And OP, who the hell bakes a cake that they hear someone say they like in passing in the first couple of dates?

Pump the brakes

NorthernGirl1975 · 06/10/2025 23:08

FrauPaige · 06/10/2025 22:34

I think after 3.5 weeks I'd be on date 2.

And OP, who the hell bakes a cake that they hear someone say they like in passing in the first couple of dates?

Pump the brakes

Did he make it himself? Is he Paul Hollywood? No he's a love bomber.

MidnightMeltdown · 07/10/2025 01:17

Ugh, I can’t believe a man in his mid 40s behaves like this 🤮

He’s controlling OP. That’s what this is all about. He doesn’t care about how you feel, he is trying to control you. Run.

UpDownAllAround1 · 07/10/2025 03:48

Jeez how many red flags does one man have. Surely you can see you need more work on yourself to spot these earlier. The sex comment you made was disturbing in itself

FrauPaige · 07/10/2025 08:12

NorthernGirl1975 · 06/10/2025 23:08

Did he make it himself? Is he Paul Hollywood? No he's a love bomber.

No, silly! It's about OP's perception of the cake gift. OP was impressed by this - should've been unsettled

Doggybroc · 07/10/2025 15:19

iamnotalemon · 06/10/2025 18:26

I do think it’s easy for a lot of people to give ‘dating advice’ when they’ve been married forever and have absolutely no idea what it’s like to be in your position and also be dating now, when the landscape has changed so much (for the worse).

I don’t think it matter what age, sex, marital status or indeed any characteristic - if you have a half decent benchmark for a partner, then you would know that people like this chap, who are waving red flags from date 1, are best given a wide berth. A very wide berth.

Doggybroc · 07/10/2025 15:20

The silver lining of this sorry tale…. He doesn’t have children!!! Hooray for that at least!!!!

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 11/01/2026 08:18

How are you OP?
I hope you are safe

SheThinksShesAllThat · 11/01/2026 08:31

ForZanyAquaViewer · 04/10/2025 14:32

This entire post is just a long list of red flags that you somehow ignored. I know you say that this is the best of the bunch, but he honestly sounds awful.

I’m very sorry you’re so sad, but you honestly need to reevaluate your selection process and how you date. Go much MUCH slower. Do not agree to weekends away with men you’ve been dating a month. Be careful wary of love bombing. Flee immediately if anyone even slightly pushes your sexual boundaries. If they disrespect you, end things immediately. Their unprocessed trauma is not your concern.

I do agree with this post, you should go with your gut on the red flags!

but what I would say about going slow is a bit harsh, you will meet a lovely man but more than likely not on a dating site unless you are picking people you wouldn’t usually choose to date.

daring sites have programmed us to be fussy, rude, defensive, dehumanising, a lack of respect & empathy…. I would say woman want it more than men sometimes.

There is hope… I met my now husband walking our dogs, fell pregnant 6weeks in, now have a DD and have been together 5yrs, married 3. It all happened so quick but I knew he was a good man, and we both laugh now saying we would never of picked one another on a dating site.

Good luck.

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