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Trying to make sense of my latest awful dating experience.

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LastsliceofBattenberg · 04/10/2025 14:21

Just need to vent really. Met a man on a dating app a month ago . Both of us mid-40s. I have kids but he doesn’t. At first he seemed like he was head and shoulders above previous dates as he was clear about interest in seeing me, consistent in contacting me and well-mannered. He was also good at planning dates. Second date he had baked me a cake I mentioned I liked. Third date he brought me something else home-made. The sexual connection was the best I’ve ever had although he did overstep boundaries a couple of times in terms of doing something I consider not standard without checking it was ok first. He booked a mini break for us for two nights (which I won’t be going on now).

I did notice on dates that he barely asked anything about me and I had to do a lot of the conversational heavy-lifting. A lack of curiosity about me and lack of asking any follow up questions if I told him something about myself. I also almost walked away early on as he divulged that he and his wife had lost a baby to SIDS and he referred to the baby as “it” and spoke in a really disconnected way about her. It seemed so dehumanising and I suspected he had unprocessed trauma.

He did all the lovely stuff though like wanting to cuddle me in bed for hours which I had really been missing. He could be quite considerate eg remembering my food preferences etc.

We were meant to go out for dinner last night and he was going to stay over even though I had a very early train to catch this morning. I came down with flu symptoms Thursday evening (told him
at the time) and by Friday morning I felt wretched. I also developed cystitis and was passing blood. So I messaged in the morning yesterday to explain what was going on and got this message “Are you cancelling on me now?” No concern for me at all. I explained that I was simply being considerate about not passing germs on to him and I would have to see how I felt a bit later. He apologised for his terse message (blamed it on being in the car) and said he would still like to come over and cuddle. As the day went on I felt worse and worse and so I messaged at 11.30am to cancel the whole evening. I didn’t want him staying over as know I just needed to sleep and I can’t sleep well with a new man in my bed. I emphasised how much I wanted to see him and offered alternative dates. It took him 3 hours to respond and all I got was “Ok…. supper cancelled.” That was it. Nothing for the rest of the day.

This morning I caved and messaged to ask what was going on. I got very terse responses saying he was upset and could not see how things could progress if we can only see each other for “the odd evening.” He said it was a shame as he thought there may have been potential. I’ve seen him multiple times per week, sometimes just for a dog walk of the kids were home but also for sleepovers and meals out. This week… saw him Friday night for meal, Saturday dog walk, Sunday dog walk, Wednesday sleepover!

I know it was only short-lived but I’ve had such a rubbish time dating and he was the first one I could see potential with in so long. I just don’t understand how you can do a 180 like this… feel I have whiplash. I know the sulking is a huge red flag and there is no going back from here. Not sure what I’m looking for from this other than your thoughts on the situation. How do you go from telling someone that it means so much to hold them all night and planning trips away to just freezing them out when they don’t do what you want one time. Just feel sad and worn down today.

OP posts:
LastsliceofBattenberg · 04/10/2025 15:01

@Curledup14I did. I thought he hadn’t processed the trauma rather than that he didn’t care.

OP posts:
Mom2K · 04/10/2025 15:02

I'm not seeing anything positive in what you've said about him. Red flags everywhere.

It's good you got sick and his reaction caused you to realize what he's like. Bullet dodged.

Crushed23 · 04/10/2025 15:06

You dodged a bullet. He sounds cold, inconsiderate and needy. It’s like, how dare you get ill and cancel on him?!

Also, you saw each other a HELL of a lot for early dating - 4 to 5 times a week?! DP and I are 8 months in and we see each other every weekend because, you know, we have lives.

Chalk to experience and move on. Nothing to be sad about here.

Curledup14 · 04/10/2025 15:09

LastsliceofBattenberg · 04/10/2025 15:01

@Curledup14I did. I thought he hadn’t processed the trauma rather than that he didn’t care.

Bloody hell op

you really are desperate for a relationship, any relationship.

In the future, stop squashing doubts and major red flags just because you want a relationship

NoCommentingFromNowOn · 04/10/2025 15:09

LastsliceofBattenberg · 04/10/2025 14:59

I had a visceral reaction to it. He said “It was just dead in its cot one day.” I asked what her name was and he could barely say it brought it all back. Seems like a disconnect to protect himself. She died 18 years ago.

The response to you being ill sounds like you should move on with someone else.

But the response to his baby dying sounds heartbroken and very, very bottled up.

Frankblackwife · 04/10/2025 15:12

What an idiot. Him not you sorry, what is with blokes and being terminally incurious grr.

GingerPaste · 04/10/2025 15:13

LastsliceofBattenberg · 04/10/2025 14:49

Actually it was only 3.5 weeks ago. Hadn’t dated anyone since last year and it felt great for a while.

This is the issue: it felt ‘great’ initially - so you overlooked the first red flags (cakes and presents from the word go and, like many men, having little interest in you and overstepping the mark sexually).

I’m half-dabbling with OLD and spoke to a guy on the phone recently who seemed fantastic BUT I put distrust before the need to meet the right person so am hypervigilant when talking to someone. During the phone call and afterwards, when thinking about it, I picked up ten or so things I wasn’t happy about (but the biggest being somehow I just couldn’t quite believe the guy was telling the truth). I didn’t follow things up.

I’m not surprised you’re fed up. 🫩

Friendlygingercat · 04/10/2025 15:15

I believe you were correct about the "woman shaped hole" in his life. He has not shown any interest in your feelings and conversation seems to have been all about him and his needs. How very inconvenient of you to have the flu and spoiled his plans!

Flu can be a serious illness and can make someone feel very ill indeed. Your decision to go to bed and look after yourself was a sensible one and a sensible person would have understood that. I agree with other posters that here is one to throw back.

CalzoneOnLegs · 04/10/2025 15:15

@LastsliceofBattenberg
This is the problem with meeting strangers online. Sorry you went through it but you have had a lucky escape it seems. I hope you feel better soon.

Mumlaplomb · 04/10/2025 15:21

He’s done you a favour here OP. You don’t need a man who doesn’t understand he will come second to your kids, who expects to be number one and who doesn’t seem to actually care about you as a person but rather as for what you can do for him. Chin up it’s better to find out sooner rather than later.

LastsliceofBattenberg · 04/10/2025 15:23

Thanks all. To clarify about the number of dates..

first week
Date 1 coffee and cake in the day as wfh
date 2 meal out
date 3 pub near me and then he spent the night.

date 4 then all day the next day… walk, lunch etc

date 5 gig
date 6 dog walk
date 7 dog walk
date 8 dinner and sleepover

OP posts:
Curledup14 · 04/10/2025 15:24

LastsliceofBattenberg · 04/10/2025 15:23

Thanks all. To clarify about the number of dates..

first week
Date 1 coffee and cake in the day as wfh
date 2 meal out
date 3 pub near me and then he spent the night.

date 4 then all day the next day… walk, lunch etc

date 5 gig
date 6 dog walk
date 7 dog walk
date 8 dinner and sleepover

All in 3.5 weeks

AND a mini break booked

bloody hell. Slow down next time!

Meadowfinch · 04/10/2025 15:24

Yanbu op. He sounds intense, in a tearing hurry and quite hard work. Not a relationship you could just relax in to.

So a bullet dodged.

Trying to date past your 20s is really tough. As you say, so many men with weird expectations.

Curledup14 · 04/10/2025 15:25

And from the word go he’s been disinterested in to, asking no questions.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 04/10/2025 15:29

He love bombed you.

He’ll try and make you grovel for forgiveness to give himself the upper hand.

Dont fall into the trap.

Curledup14 · 04/10/2025 15:29

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 04/10/2025 15:29

He love bombed you.

He’ll try and make you grovel for forgiveness to give himself the upper hand.

Dont fall into the trap.

Well to some extent

although not much love bombing in showing no interest in the OP or asking any questions about her

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 04/10/2025 15:31

Curledup14 · 04/10/2025 15:29

Well to some extent

although not much love bombing in showing no interest in the OP or asking any questions about her

Yes. It’s the second phase of the process

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 04/10/2025 15:33

Cycle of abuse

(posted wrong photo in a rush)

Trying to make sense of my latest awful dating experience.
Arlanymor · 04/10/2025 15:33

Curledup14 · 04/10/2025 14:46

More than intense

he sounds quite deeply unpleasant!

Fine. I am texting on the go.

Curledup14 · 04/10/2025 15:34

Arlanymor · 04/10/2025 15:33

Fine. I am texting on the go.

Put your phone away and look up! 😆

Curledup14 · 04/10/2025 15:35

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 04/10/2025 15:31

Yes. It’s the second phase of the process

What’s the second phase? He has never shown interest from the word go

WatchingTheDetective · 04/10/2025 15:37

I wouldn't be able to get past him calling his dead baby daughter "it". Do you really think this is a man who'd care for your children?

lemonraspberry · 04/10/2025 15:38

He had a schedule and clearly just set the (brisk) pace in the relationship so you would fall in line and see it as a good thing. This has probably worked well for him in the past. Does a good 'interview - best behaviour' phase than quickly settles down into a more realistic taste of things to come.

But the conversation experience does speak volumes.

Bullet dodged...

ladybirdsanchez · 04/10/2025 15:39

Curledup14 · 04/10/2025 15:35

What’s the second phase? He has never shown interest from the word go

Well he did - on their second date he baked her a cake!

IME that's unusual behaviour and pretty intense when date #1 was a daytime coffee.