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Trying to make sense of my latest awful dating experience.

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LastsliceofBattenberg · 04/10/2025 14:21

Just need to vent really. Met a man on a dating app a month ago . Both of us mid-40s. I have kids but he doesn’t. At first he seemed like he was head and shoulders above previous dates as he was clear about interest in seeing me, consistent in contacting me and well-mannered. He was also good at planning dates. Second date he had baked me a cake I mentioned I liked. Third date he brought me something else home-made. The sexual connection was the best I’ve ever had although he did overstep boundaries a couple of times in terms of doing something I consider not standard without checking it was ok first. He booked a mini break for us for two nights (which I won’t be going on now).

I did notice on dates that he barely asked anything about me and I had to do a lot of the conversational heavy-lifting. A lack of curiosity about me and lack of asking any follow up questions if I told him something about myself. I also almost walked away early on as he divulged that he and his wife had lost a baby to SIDS and he referred to the baby as “it” and spoke in a really disconnected way about her. It seemed so dehumanising and I suspected he had unprocessed trauma.

He did all the lovely stuff though like wanting to cuddle me in bed for hours which I had really been missing. He could be quite considerate eg remembering my food preferences etc.

We were meant to go out for dinner last night and he was going to stay over even though I had a very early train to catch this morning. I came down with flu symptoms Thursday evening (told him
at the time) and by Friday morning I felt wretched. I also developed cystitis and was passing blood. So I messaged in the morning yesterday to explain what was going on and got this message “Are you cancelling on me now?” No concern for me at all. I explained that I was simply being considerate about not passing germs on to him and I would have to see how I felt a bit later. He apologised for his terse message (blamed it on being in the car) and said he would still like to come over and cuddle. As the day went on I felt worse and worse and so I messaged at 11.30am to cancel the whole evening. I didn’t want him staying over as know I just needed to sleep and I can’t sleep well with a new man in my bed. I emphasised how much I wanted to see him and offered alternative dates. It took him 3 hours to respond and all I got was “Ok…. supper cancelled.” That was it. Nothing for the rest of the day.

This morning I caved and messaged to ask what was going on. I got very terse responses saying he was upset and could not see how things could progress if we can only see each other for “the odd evening.” He said it was a shame as he thought there may have been potential. I’ve seen him multiple times per week, sometimes just for a dog walk of the kids were home but also for sleepovers and meals out. This week… saw him Friday night for meal, Saturday dog walk, Sunday dog walk, Wednesday sleepover!

I know it was only short-lived but I’ve had such a rubbish time dating and he was the first one I could see potential with in so long. I just don’t understand how you can do a 180 like this… feel I have whiplash. I know the sulking is a huge red flag and there is no going back from here. Not sure what I’m looking for from this other than your thoughts on the situation. How do you go from telling someone that it means so much to hold them all night and planning trips away to just freezing them out when they don’t do what you want one time. Just feel sad and worn down today.

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Sasssquatch · 04/10/2025 16:10

ForZanyAquaViewer · 04/10/2025 14:51

Goodness, OP. How would one even manage that in 3.5 weeks. Do you not have friends? Hobbies? Other commitments?

If not, this would be a great opportunity to start developing those things. Is it possible you got overly invested far too quickly because you’ve very little else going on?

Perhaps you meant this to sound supportive but, especially for someone upset about a situation, it sounds condescending and sneery.

op red flags everywhere. Block, process, move on. Hope you feel better soon.

DorothyStorm · 04/10/2025 16:10

He hasn't done a complete turn around. It has been under a month. This is him. Block and move on.

ForZanyAquaViewer · 04/10/2025 16:11

Sasssquatch · 04/10/2025 16:10

Perhaps you meant this to sound supportive but, especially for someone upset about a situation, it sounds condescending and sneery.

op red flags everywhere. Block, process, move on. Hope you feel better soon.

🙄

Bepo77 · 04/10/2025 16:37

He sounds like a moody, moany, needy loser to be honest

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · 04/10/2025 16:45

I know you’re probably feeling quite hurt now, OP, but really, this man is no great loss.

He’s a walking red flag.

wordler · 04/10/2025 16:50

ForZanyAquaViewer · 04/10/2025 14:32

This entire post is just a long list of red flags that you somehow ignored. I know you say that this is the best of the bunch, but he honestly sounds awful.

I’m very sorry you’re so sad, but you honestly need to reevaluate your selection process and how you date. Go much MUCH slower. Do not agree to weekends away with men you’ve been dating a month. Be careful wary of love bombing. Flee immediately if anyone even slightly pushes your sexual boundaries. If they disrespect you, end things immediately. Their unprocessed trauma is not your concern.

This ⬆️

Second date home baked cake (like a whole Victoria sponge?) and exclusivity talk would have been a huge red for me.

Gymbunny2025 · 04/10/2025 16:57

He called his dead child it? And you expected care from him? Why? Also I’m not sure if he or you describe him as not having kids but I think that’s offensive personally

Arlanymor · 04/10/2025 16:57

Curledup14 · 04/10/2025 15:34

Put your phone away and look up! 😆

Look up? I’m not walking.

ladybirdsanchez · 04/10/2025 16:58

Curledup14 · 04/10/2025 15:42

If you read the op… right from the start he hasn’t asked any questions and op had to do all the heavy lifting

I did read the OP and the impression I had was that he had displayed behaviours of love-bombing, which included baking her a cake and wanting to spend unnaturally large amounts of time with her right from the start. They've only known each other for 3.5 weeks and in that time they've seen each other 8 times, he's spent nights at her house and he booked a weekend away! That is not normal behaviour - that is far too intense in such a short period of time - and that is called love-bombing.

Boomer55 · 04/10/2025 17:02

It was all too too quick.

Best get a vibrator and take your time with potential partners.

ProfessorRizz · 04/10/2025 17:14

LastsliceofBattenberg · 04/10/2025 14:59

I had a visceral reaction to it. He said “It was just dead in its cot one day.” I asked what her name was and he could barely say it brought it all back. Seems like a disconnect to protect himself. She died 18 years ago.

I think he’s made her up, sorry OP. No parent would talk about a child like this.

OriginalUsername2 · 04/10/2025 17:26

A lot of people recommended The Freedom Program - easily searchable.

TwistedWonder · 04/10/2025 17:47

Although there were some extremely intense things happen for such a short term thing, I’m not sure it’s textbook love bombing because that usually involves mirroring so lots of questions asked to give them as much knowledge as possible to fake a connection.

I think it just sounds like he wanted sex so put on an act to convince the OP he wanted more.

Anyway regardless of what his motives were, you’re best if out of it OP but I would say take time to work on strengthening your boundaries and spotting glaring red flags

DeclineandFall · 04/10/2025 18:07

That'll be probably the best timed bout of flu you'll get OP. Be glad it was only 3.5 weeks you dealt with this arsehole. Hope you're feeling better soon.

LastsliceofBattenberg · 04/10/2025 19:15

Thank you all. Think i needed to hear what a wanker he is. Clearly I’m starved of affection . It’s just the thought of starting from scratch again… and the inability to process how disposable I was to him

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Endofyear · 04/10/2025 19:20

He was way too much too quickly, a massive red flag! The fact that he showed no concern about you being ill says it all - you've definitely dodged a bullet here. At least you found out who he is early on in the relationship!

shuggles · 04/10/2025 19:33

LastsliceofBattenberg · 04/10/2025 14:40

Thank you. Yep, dating is awful. Endless men with unresolved issues.

But these are men that you chose. You selected these men and made a decision to approach them.

Mumlaplomb · 04/10/2025 19:37

To be fair OP you’ve got the measure of him fairly quickly so you’re senses are in tact. Unfortunately these men can put on a good front for a while. You want a man who goes slow and steady and makes you feel calm. X

DorothyStorm · 04/10/2025 19:46

shuggles · 04/10/2025 19:33

But these are men that you chose. You selected these men and made a decision to approach them.

And please do explain how you know they have issues before you approach them oh wise one?

toiletpaperthief · 04/10/2025 20:48

DorothyStorm · 04/10/2025 19:46

And please do explain how you know they have issues before you approach them oh wise one?

I'll help you with some first dates examples with different guys:

  1. : "my ex got a restraining order on me because she's crazy and bitter" .
  2. Constantly talked about the ex he broke up 7 years ago.
  3. Kept popping pills while having a pint.
  4. Never looked at me just kept staring at my boobs (I was wearing a large buttoned up shirt so that was weird).
  5. Arrived to our dinner date dressed in an Elvis costume.

😂

SoManyDandelions · 04/10/2025 20:52

I've been with DH since 2004. He's never once disregarded my sexual boundaries, and we've had a lot of sex! That man has disregarded yours twice in 3.5 weeks?!

I think it sounds like you've had a lucky escape @LastsliceofBattenberg. He doesn't have good conversation. He is sulky and selfish when you're ill. He doesn't think your sexual boundaries are worth respecting. No, no, no.

I'm sorry this didn't work out for you, but this man is NOT the one for you.

SandStormNorm · 04/10/2025 21:31

I hope you get over your flu bug. You had a fling with a man you were talking at, rather than with. He had red flags all over him, and you would have been very bored of the one-sided conversation in time. There is no way I would have eaten cake off a relative stranger. I may have watched too much TV crime drama but I think you should be careful with people until they show you who they really are. In time you will see how much of a favour he did you. He showed you who he is, and that he wants a booty call to a schedule of his making. You fill a void in his life rather than a person he is super interested in. For what it is worth, I had a long distance boyfriend who thought I was sneaking off for secret dates on days when I was sat in an oncology department having follow-up treatment on my cancer surgery that cut half my hand off. I am not sure if I was in the mood for romance when doing a fine impression of Captain Hook but anyway...Don't be hard on yourself as we all like to see the best in people. Dumping this paranoid, needy loser with poor grasp of other people and their illness was the best thing I ever did. In time you will come to understand that this man did you a big favour as you are way better than his (cake) crumbs.

Fluffypotatoe123987 · 04/10/2025 21:39

This is how my ex was.

2.5 years of control cohesive control and emptional abuse. Initially I was happy initially but it was smothering. Its love bombing.

Fluffypotatoe123987 · 04/10/2025 21:41

High highs and low lows

Hes dumped u but he be back in a few days as he knows your hooked. It gets like a drug you crave him.

Cystitus as sex without a condom im guessing.?

Do yourself a favour and do a claires law asap

Rainbowqueeen · 04/10/2025 21:44

The biggest issue to me here is that you had to do all the conversational heavy lifting and he didn’t ask you anything much about yourself.

If a man is like this then do not proceed. If you want to give him the benefit of the doubt because you think he’s shy, awkward or whatever then ok date for longer but no sex unless you see a change and feel like he is actually interested in who you are. Look at ask a matchmaker (podcast and book) for some good ideas on how to approach dating. Especially her first date prep and 12 date rule