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I'm proud of how I handled things. My husband thinks I was too harsh

159 replies

Girlmom35 · 13/08/2025 21:05

So, backstory.
I have a 6-year old with a genetic condition which presents itself much like autism. Not completely the same, but similarities. One thing she still absolutely hates, is when people touch her without her permission. A year ago she would have just started screaming when being touched or picked up. Now she's already at a point where she can politely but firmly say "don't touch me please, I don't like it".

I've been working a lot with her on bodily autonomy because I absolutely believe she has the right to decide who gets to touch her, but I also want her to understand that sometimes people have to intervene for her safety (like grabbing her when she crosses the road without looking). So she knows she's not supposed to touch anyone without consent, but people don't get to touch her either.

Back to today's events.
We were at the zoo as a family. She walked out ahead of me to look at an animal. I was walking with my slower 3-year old, but I could see my eldest at all times.
She reaches the fence and has trouble looking over it. She's patiently waiting for my husband and I to walk over and offer help.
There's a woman my age (35-ish) standing next to her. The woman doesn't ask permission or communicate with her at all. She just walks over to my daughter and attempts to pick her up.
At this point I wasn't upset. She was trying to be helpful, maybe in an unfortunate way but not every child would have felt as uncomfortable as my child.
My daughter responds as she's been taught and filmy says: "please don't pick me up". She also pulls away. Her body language was incredibly clear.
The woman ignores her, pulls her arm and tries again to pick her up.
My daughter gets upset and starts saying "no, no, no, stop, put me down!" and pushing the woman away.
Again, she gets ignored.. The woman says "I'm just trying to help you". She doesn't let her go.
At this point my daughter is screaming (it took her 15 minutes to settle after this, she was so upset).
The woman still doesn't put her down and even comments "stop being so difficult".
I have now caught up to them. This all happened in under a minute. I pull my daughter from this woman's arms and I'm not gentle pulling her hands off my daughter.
I am visibly pissed off and I said to the woman: "Let go of her. She said no. I do not want you touching my daughter against her will."

The woman was very offended. She made a hushed comment. I didn't hear it well because I had a 6-year-old crying into my ears and I was attempting to calm her down.
My daughter kept sobbing :" I told her no and she didn't stop". She also apologized for screaming at the woman. She was worried that I'd tell her off for not being polite.
I affirmed my daughter. The woman was still in hearing distance, but I told my daughter that she was right, that the lady had no right to pick her up without asking. That she had asked politely, but it was very understandable that she got upset when the woman didn't respect her no.
To which the woman rolled her eyes and walked away.

I was actually proud of myself. I've never been in this situation where I had to react quickly and I was afraid I'd freeze. But I intervened and protected my child above my need to avoid conflict or awkwardness.

My husband agrees that the woman was in tbe wrong, but he says I didn't have to rub it in.

Opinions?

OP posts:
TiredAH · 13/08/2025 21:46

You dont pick up random children. Wtf?

ChaToilLeam · 13/08/2025 21:46

YNBU. What the hell was wrong with that woman, that she wouldn't let go of a screaming child who was making herself VERY clear?

The only time I have ever scooped up a random child was in the case of danger, and that was just instinctive.

Toastandjam16 · 13/08/2025 21:49

No, you were right and the woman was the odd one here. If she'd been a man I bet your husband wouldn't have liked it at all. It's standard that you'd say 'would you like me to lift you up?' to a child that age first.

I can remember an incident from my childhood where there was an altercation with a random woman and my dad, bless him, said 'I believe my daughter, not you'. I've never forgotten that. Well done for standing up for your child.

Silverbirchleaf · 13/08/2025 21:51

In this day and age, you don’t pick up a strange child without the parents permission, however well meaning, and definantly not if the child is resisting. I guess the woman thought you were being passive aggressive (to her) but you did nothing wrong. You duty is to your daughter, not her.

User2025meow · 13/08/2025 21:52

100% right. I would have done the same.

SirBasil · 13/08/2025 21:54

buswankerbabe · 13/08/2025 21:10

Meh. She was trying to help. I think you could have affirmed your child without being a dick to be fair.

Bollocks to that. You touch someone who then days "no"? You deserve all you get

DramaAlpaca · 13/08/2025 21:55

You did the right thing, OP. Not too harsh at all; you defended your child in the moment and should be proud of yourself.

TwistedWonder · 13/08/2025 21:56

You were absolutely not unreasonable in the slightest and your DH is being a dick about it.

Unless a child is in danger no one should be touching a strangers child - and the fact your child said no very clearly, this woman’s behaviour was appalling and weird as fuck.

If anything you were restrained

BrunchBarBandit · 13/08/2025 22:01

You were brilliant! And what a great job you are doing with your daughter. Hats off to you OP

Mewling · 13/08/2025 22:07

I’m Team OP. I think the “I’m trying to help you” would’ve finished me off, frankly. Well done on handling it so well. I hope your DD is ok now.

StopGo · 13/08/2025 22:11

Your husband let his daughter down. Why wasn’t he supervising whilst you toddler wrangled?

whynotwhatknot · 13/08/2025 22:13

ive never touched a child wthout permission she was wrong

Newsenmum · 13/08/2025 22:16

Im so pleased your daughter was able to express herself. Poor girl! And hopefully means she would in the future. Im surprised your husband feels that way. Does he worry about what others think? My husband would be livid.

Ratafia · 13/08/2025 22:22

buswankerbabe · 13/08/2025 21:10

Meh. She was trying to help. I think you could have affirmed your child without being a dick to be fair.

Fair enough to say she was trying to help initially, but surely once the child said no she cannot have seriously believed that refusing to let her go was remotely helpful?

CornishTiger · 13/08/2025 22:23

Your first priority was reassuring your child not educating the woman so you did right there.

However a gentle I know you meant well but she said no three times and the first time should have been enough warning that it’s not ok to just put your hands on another person without consent.

However in the moment it’s hard to come up with these things.

Mamabear487 · 13/08/2025 22:24

YANBU what a twat

healthybychristmas · 13/08/2025 22:26

That woman sounds absolutely nuts. Who on earth would go up to a random child and just pick them up?

You sound like a really good mother. You have a fantastic daughter and a brilliant relationship.

Girlmom35 · 13/08/2025 22:26

Mewling · 13/08/2025 22:07

I’m Team OP. I think the “I’m trying to help you” would’ve finished me off, frankly. Well done on handling it so well. I hope your DD is ok now.

She is! Thank you.
We had a lovely conversation about it afterwards, where she asked me many questions, and she got all her anger and frustration off her chest.
She usually manages to put things behind her once she fully understands what happened, but also which social rules apply. She doesn't always know from her own gut feeling what those rules are, but she's great at puzzling them all together to grasp the bigger picture when someone explains them to her.

She might revisit the event later on, but we talk a lot. She's amazingly good at communicating her feelings for her age. She'll be just fine.

OP posts:
londongirl12 · 13/08/2025 22:28

You did the right thing, and your DD did amazingly well in the circumstances.

alwaysstressed · 13/08/2025 22:28

MoonWoman69 · 13/08/2025 21:18

I wouldn't have thought that a strange woman would persist in man handling your child for so long to be fair! Especially when she started screaming. That whole event sounds quite odd to me. But then I'm not the sort of person who would pick up a strangers child either!
I'm with your husband on this one. And I think a calm, brief explanation may have gone a long way to educating this woman for future reference. You handled it badly in my opinion.

I agree sounds a bit odd to me too.
Did this really happen exactly how you’re describing?

Personperson · 13/08/2025 22:29

buswankerbabe · 13/08/2025 21:10

Meh. She was trying to help. I think you could have affirmed your child without being a dick to be fair.

Jesus there is always one. 🙄

BitOutOfPractice · 13/08/2025 22:32

I think it’s a shame that something so innocuous got escalated into a massive upset for everyone.

sourdoughnogo · 13/08/2025 22:33

❤️

Girlmom35 · 13/08/2025 22:33

Newsenmum · 13/08/2025 22:16

Im so pleased your daughter was able to express herself. Poor girl! And hopefully means she would in the future. Im surprised your husband feels that way. Does he worry about what others think? My husband would be livid.

He does!
He knows this is an issue on his part.
He was raised to care more about not upsetting people than about his own feelings or boundaries.
He's grown a lot, but he still has ways to go. Especially in situations that catch him off guard, his instincts are to avoid confrontation.

He agrees now that he should have spoken up as well.

OP posts:
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