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Dad disowned me over one comment- how do I fix it?

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erasemybrain · 10/08/2025 12:45

Hi, this is long.
I have previously had a brilliant relationship with my parents. I'm married and have 2 children. We have always been very close. My DH has no parents and they have treated him like a son. They have looked after our children - we have never paid childcare. We recently had a week off work to renovate a room in their house. We do a lot for each other. I speak to my mom every day and my dad every couple of days if we haven't seen them.
We usually holiday together and have done for years. Dad used to pay for the holiday and now we do (power shift?). We do all the work, cooking etc. We also do all the driving once we have arrived. We often do the same things on holiday - throw backs to when we were kids, but it's a very democratic and organic process deciding what we want to do and we don't have to do things all together.
Anyway- this year may half term we were on holiday- dad was celebrating a big birthday while we were there. Other family has come along to stay nearby. Everything was going well, we had had a nice day. It was his birthday the next day. We sorted dinner and my teen was being a bit rude/cheeky to me (as is often the case, testing boundaries!). He has been at the accommodation all day with my husband and the rest of us had been a couple of places (ie I hadn't been nagging him all day!) I told him he had been rude and he took that on the chin because he knew he had. My dad said "oh will you give it a rest" I said "if you don't like it go somewhere else" - there were numerous other places to be other than sat at the table with us. He had already finished his food.
Well this lot the touch paper and he got his car keys and drove off. He had left his phone behind and we all sort of carried on as normal. My mom did ask him not to go but he left anyway. He was gone a couple of hours and by the time he came back we were all in bed- small accommodation you could hear everything. He came in and seemed even more angry than when he left. He went into his bedroom and demanded that my mom pack his case. She was begging him to stay. My DS who had been cheeky was sobbing and begging him to stay. My mom said she had chest pain and he ignored her. He was packing his things and I slipped out of the chaos and sat in his car. I hoped that then I could talk to him and apologise (even though I didn't feel what I had said had warranted that reaction- we are normally people who say what we think!) He locked me in the car and I couldn't get out. I could hear my son sobbing and begging.
I have never seen him behave like this before he was so so angry. I saw my husband standing in his was asking him to stay and talk. My Dad said he didn't want to hit him but he would if he didn't move. Again this couldn't be more out of character. I was very very worried. Someone let me out of the car and I went in to try and get him to talk but he was fighting us to get out. All I could think of what if he crashes and dies my son will be affected forever.
The neighbours started shouting for us to keep the noise down and my dad started shouting for help. The look in his eyes was wild and I really felt like I didn't know him at all. My mom was still begging him to stay.
We let him leave. He drove 200 miles home.
There was an aftermath of trying to contact him and make sure he was ok. Mainly other family members. He would only really speak to my son. My other younger son was in bed and terrified of the whole thing.
I text him the next day but he was accusing me of assaulting him and was still clearly angry.
He hasn't spoken to me or my husband since. This shows no sign of improvement. He thinks we did a terrible thing trying to stop him from leaving. I did send him and email explaining how worried for him we were (this seems to make him angry that we were worried) that we only tried to stop him from leaving because we love him etc, etc. That resulted in him blocking me.
For clarity my husband stood in his way and held his hands up to his shoulders and stood his ground. I hugged him to stop him leaving. Arms round his waist.
Please help me fix this. I miss him so much. It feels like a dream that I'm going to wake up from. It was so out of character. I have thought some kind of medical issue but then why would he be carrying it on! I have told a few friends who know him (who have been on holiday with us and them) who can't believe it either!
Thank you so much for reading.

OP posts:
BrentfordForever · 10/08/2025 16:10

Flossflower · 10/08/2025 16:02

OP’s father was the one who massively overstepped first. You don’t tell someone who is parenting their child to ‘give it a rest’.
I think OP’s father is just not a nice man and up until this time, he had kept his bad side reserved for his wife. Demanding his wife pack for him - what a horrible man.
I think I am one of the few people who think that the others were perfectly OK to physically try and stop him going. Nobody should be driving when they are angry and in a state. It is OK for him to kill himself but not other people on the road.

She thought he was angry because she was angry

IkeaJesusChrist · 10/08/2025 16:11

I find it difficult to believe, given how enmeshed you are, that you've never seen him behave like this before.

Iamthemoom · 10/08/2025 16:12

I really don’t want to alarm you and I really hope this isn’t going to be your story, I hope it’s just a blip for your dad, but with the benefit of hindsight… a close family member blew up like this over something trivial and cut myself and another family member out of their life for three months. It turned out they had a brain tumour. Thankfully once they knew what had caused the personality change they agreed to see us but we only got a few more weeks together. The personality change came first, then the headaches.
If I could go back in time I would never have stayed away those three months, I would have gone there every day, apologised, begged, camped outside to have that time with them.

Please speak to your mum, see if there are any other issues, urge her to get him checked out and go see him, do whatever it takes to not have this rift continue, just in case.

Lubilu02 · 10/08/2025 16:13

Your Mum will know him best and know what he's really like behind closed doors. She will hopefully be to at least first clear up whether this is a part of his personality behind closed doors.

You don't say how old he is? I have family whose patience has wained over the last couple of years especially with GC, thats when i usually step in and call time, he's 76 now.

The UTI suggestion, is a very good one and could indeed be the cause.

You say it was a big birthday, perhaps he is just feeling quite sensitive about it deep down or he might be longing for a bit of quiet time.

Could really be a number of things.

Don't take it too personally, give him the space he is asking for whilst letting him know there's no hard feelings your end.

It will all be fine soon, support your son and Mum, who bless her must have been quite stressed by getting chest pains.

No pressure any where is the answer here I think.

ArabellaScott · 10/08/2025 16:15

Invinoveritaz · 10/08/2025 15:04

My dad started behaving like this about 5 years before he was diagnosed with frontal temporal dementia. It can make a person very paranoid and irrational, however, the memory is not badly affected till much later so it’s not always picked up early.
it could well be medical.

I'd have agreed, utnil I read OP's comment about 'when' her dad gives her mum the silent treatment.

It doesn't appear to be completely new behaviour from that comment.

(also, I'm very sorry about your dad).

Flossflower · 10/08/2025 16:21

BrentfordForever · 10/08/2025 16:10

She thought he was angry because she was angry

She was upset not angry.
An angry person storms off and demands someone else packs their bag.

DoRayMeMeMe · 10/08/2025 16:22

Account734 · 10/08/2025 14:58

If someone upset me and I tried to leave and then was physically restrained by a "hug" and a younger man blocking my path refusing to move until I threatened violence I would be absolutely furious. It's not ok to physically try to force someone to do what you want and that's what you and your husband were doing. You literally told your father to leave, he did and then you caused absolute chaos. Own it and apologise.

Yes, but if you are the type of specimen that wakes up the whole house after they have gone to bed, shouting at your spouse to pack your case so you can flounce for the second time, then they should have said “Don’t let the door hit you on the way out” followed under their breath with “you absolute lunatic”

Do you think that flouncing twice and waking up the whole house plus the neighbors is normal- because it absolutely is not.

lazyarse123 · 10/08/2025 16:23

I wouldn't be pandering to his nonsense. You have apologised more than once. He was quite happy to see your children upset and now you know that's how he treats your mum in private. I wouldn't accept him back if he suddenly decides things are OK. It won't be long until he finds something else to get the arse about.
Just be there for your mum it's obvious her life is spent walking on eggshells. You and your mum are worth more.

MoogooMongoose · 10/08/2025 16:30

Sorry you've had this horrible upsetting experience for all of you as a family.

It sounds like a severe and out of character reaction as he seems loving and very loved and very dedicated to you all as a family normally.

Try not to panic it will very likely blow over it just needs time and space.

Your comment obviously triggered this response in your Dad which could have been for many reasons.

Your Dad could be early stages dementia/ alzheimers.

Mood swings out of character are not uncommon. Loss of self confidence and increased sensitivity along with irritability too.

Perhaps he has been feeling anxious about his memory or his health in general. Your Mum will know more im sure.

Im a Grandparent too. I do a lot for my daughter son in law and grandchildren time wise emotional and financial support. Like your parents do.

I think being told to "go elsewhere if I didn't like something " would have been incredibly hurtful to me too.
But seeing how sorry you obviously were i would have come round for the sake of family peace.

There may be an under current here you are not aware of.

Leave him in peace for a while and keep communication with your Mum.

WinterSunglasses · 10/08/2025 16:30

carmak · 10/08/2025 16:07

So he has form and now you're the victim.

He's dug himself into a massive hole, let him stay there.

This. He's going to miss out on help from you doing this. Don't offer to do things for him while he's still sulking and invite your mum to come over to yours to be with the kids, if she'll do that. I expect he will just suddenly start communicating again when he's ready. But you've done enough.

SatsumaDog · 10/08/2025 16:33

Sounds like there’s something else going on and the rude way you spoke to him
pushed him over the edge. Then when he decides he wants to go home, he has the whole family ganging up on him and physically restraining him so he can’t leave. When you back someone into a corner like that it’s never going to end well and you shouldn’t be surprised when they snap.

Isthisit22 · 10/08/2025 16:34

lazyarse123 · 10/08/2025 16:23

I wouldn't be pandering to his nonsense. You have apologised more than once. He was quite happy to see your children upset and now you know that's how he treats your mum in private. I wouldn't accept him back if he suddenly decides things are OK. It won't be long until he finds something else to get the arse about.
Just be there for your mum it's obvious her life is spent walking on eggshells. You and your mum are worth more.

This.
please don’t model for your boys that this is an acceptable way for men to bring their women in line.
demanding your mum pack his case has given me the rage. Find your anger and break this misogynistic power cycle.

TwistedWonder · 10/08/2025 16:35

TheFormidableMrsC · 10/08/2025 13:04

UTI? That can send people scatty, particularly if left untreated.

My dad ended up in hospital due to a UTI. It was scary he was talking in riddles and seemed delirious

2 days later it was as if it never happened

SealHouse · 10/08/2025 16:35

RightOnTheEdge · 10/08/2025 14:13

Well I got bad vibes about him when you said he came back and demanded your mum pack for him.
She says when he falls out with her and gives her the silent treatment he will just suddenly act like nothing has happened.
This just emphasises the fact that he's not a very nice man and your mum has probably had to put up with his shit for years.

I agree with @NeverDropYourMooncup though that you all sound like massive drama llamas! Everybody's reaction sounds so over the top and dramatic!

Honestly I'd leave him to sulk. I really couldn't be bothered with his tantrum.

I agree with all of the above.
OP you mention an upcoming holiday they were to join you on, could you ask your mum to come anyway and leave him at home if that's what he wishes. Why should she miss out, and you and your kids miss out on time with her? Let him cut off his nose to spite his face if he wishes. I'm not buying the dementia thing, I think this is pure mantrum.

Spindrifts · 10/08/2025 16:35

Uti in older man, onset dementia, heart condition (undiagnosed), saw symptom of something frightening medically and could not deal with it in a foreign place. If this is out of place, then something has happened for sure.

glossyeyebrows · 10/08/2025 16:38

This sounds like my family. Everyone thinks oh we’re so close etc but there’s a toxic undercurrent which flares up occasionally and years of simmering resentments surface.

My advice is take a deep breath, accept that humans are all fallible, generation gaps are hard…ride it out and things will be ok again eventually.

gamerchick · 10/08/2025 16:39

There's probably something else going on and you snapping at him lit the touch paper. Then he saw none of you cares he went missing without his phone for a few hours and went to bed. From then on it just escalated. You should have let him leave in the first place.

Is he having a wobble about his milestone birthday maybe?

Let him get over himself in his own time. Just leave him be.

SixtySomething · 10/08/2025 16:39

This is an AI story.

Foodylicious · 10/08/2025 16:45

Next time you are over at theirs, go in to the other room where he sits away from you and say
"Im not going to keep begging Dad, but I'm here when you are ready to talk" then just leave him to it.

Dont think there is much else you can do.
No more emails or text trying to reach him.
Leave it up to him now.

olympicsrock · 10/08/2025 16:53

I think you need to apologise OP . You were rude . The wailing , crying , holding on to him , sitting in his car etc was out of order especially DH putting hands on his shoulders.

He was the man of the house and now that he is getting older he has been put in his place and when he wants to leave to get away from the Wast Enders drama , you try to prevent him leaving .

Yes he overreacted but I can see why he did.

Apologise and then give him time and space .

ThatBlackCat · 10/08/2025 16:55

olympicsrock · 10/08/2025 16:53

I think you need to apologise OP . You were rude . The wailing , crying , holding on to him , sitting in his car etc was out of order especially DH putting hands on his shoulders.

He was the man of the house and now that he is getting older he has been put in his place and when he wants to leave to get away from the Wast Enders drama , you try to prevent him leaving .

Yes he overreacted but I can see why he did.

Apologise and then give him time and space .

FFS @olympicsrock , RTFT, she has apologised NUMEROUS TIMES ALREADY!

WiddlinDiddlin · 10/08/2025 16:57

I think you're right when you pointed out the power shift..

Previously, he can treat you like a child because he supplied money, favours, labour etc.

He doesn't do that, and when you challenged him instead of accepting a reprimand like a child, that hit home for him - he is losing his power.

So now behaviour reserved for other adults/your Mother... is now also directed at you.

He is not a nice man, and he never was. He was just good at hiding it, as long as everyone knew their place.

speakball · 10/08/2025 16:59

If he does just start being normal am I crazy to just go along with it? I won't forget.

Op what makes you think he is safe for your kids to sit with when mum has told you he gets angry when you are mentioned. I think you let him see them because you are avoiding the rage and or guilt from your mum. Shove that. God knows how awkward your kids are when they’re with him. Please don’t do what your mum does and say ‘they’re fine, it’s fine it’s all fine’.

SheReallyLikes · 10/08/2025 17:00

hideawayforever · 10/08/2025 13:13

yes, I've heard about this too

It’s true, my mother had seemed ok, I’d visited, thought she looked ill, but she perked up and ate.
At the weekend I was due to visit again, but she didn’t answer the phone, she had fallen, however she had also torn things up, wrecked her living room a little ( nothing that couldn’t be put right)

Anyway UTI was diagnosed, she was in hospital for a while and totally recovered.
You always need to push for UTI test, it’s very common, and if not tested for people think dementia.

speakball · 10/08/2025 17:01

In essence your children are already being groomed to probably see him as a victim and you as sensitive or nasty. None of it is normal or good.

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