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Therapy session 2 and feeling more insecure with fiance

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togo1004 · 01/08/2025 03:06

Finished session 2 with therapy. She addressed why my vision might become blurry when I’m stressed. She thinks that my brain doesn’t want me to see something and that stress is the trigger for it.

we dove deeper into my childhood trauma and talked more about myself. We have not reached diagnosis stage as we have a wide arrange of things to cover.

im currently traveling in China with my fiancé. We’ve already gotten into a few arguments but nothing major I see a big improvement already. I’d like your feedback on what the issue is, If it’s indeed my problem again and how I can address it better next time.

i know I don’t have the best diet. He’s been reminding me to drink water this entire time and I have a hard time drinking water if it’s not cold and when I’m full. We went out to get coffee and I suddenly got dizzy and passed out. I woke up a few seconds later and he shoved a bunch of candy in my mouth and forced me to eat it. I felt better in about 5 minutes and he carried me back to our hotel.

he looked so worried and he started telling me that he suspects I might be either diabetic and has hypoglycemia or have extremely low blood pressure. Either way it’s not good. Then he went on about how I really need to stop eating fried food and sugary things and focus on hydration and getting minerals in my body. I got so annoyed and got loud and said that I’ve been this way my whole life and it’s perfectly normal.

then he started listing things and saying things like “passing out in the middle of the street is normal?”
he went on about how I’m always tired, always have a headache, has mental disorders and thinks it’s largely contributed by my diet and life style. He went on about how he’s never seen me eat a salad or vegetables or fruit. He said “you can’t just live on pasta and fried food and soda”

He said that I’m likely malnutritioned and dehydrated for years and that unless I change it’s going to destroy my body. Ive felt so violated that I started crying. Now im just exhausted and want to go home.

i told him to stop commenting on how i eat because ill likely develop bulimia because of his comments. He literally told me that if I don’t change my life style he’s going to call off the marriage because he says “I will not marry someone who doesn’t prioritize health”. I told him that he cannot control me as it’s my body and it’s my choice on how I eat and live.

that evening I tried to make love to him and he turned me down saying that I’m not well and he thinks I might pass out during sex. I felt like he just didn’t want me at all..felt so rejected. He said that I’m still cold sweating looks pale and that I should really stop eating fried noodles and eat some salad and drink 2 liters of water today and do this everyday and he just went to sleep.

I know I’m not diabetic from tests a while
back but I did take blood pressure the next morning at a pharmacy near by and my bp came back hypotension.

we were ok that day went to pool but he won’t touch me the way he used to and I’m feeling insecure.

did i handle this ok? It didn’t escalate into a big fight but was thinking it’s my body my choice the right thing to say in this point? His point is that it’s selfish because he’s the one responsible for medical bills for us and that I should be taking care of my health for both of us as he does the same.

OP posts:
conflicted84 · 04/08/2025 16:33

Send me that man's account details so I can buy him a beer.

SoScarletItWas · 04/08/2025 16:36

FlipFlopShopInHawaii · 04/08/2025 16:32

I'm sorry you're in pain @togo1004. This can't be easy, but really it was inevitable with the way you're treating him.
Neither of you are good for the other. Leave him in peace, work on your anxiety & other issues and then you'll be ready to date again.

100% this. Sadly it was only ever going to go this way.

Let this be your turning point, @togo1004 and learn for future friendships and relationships - after you’ve spent time working through your issues.

Mylovelygreendress · 04/08/2025 16:36

IF ( and it’s a big if) this is true , I am happy for your ex.

PsychoHotSauce · 04/08/2025 16:40

You gonna manage ok or do you need him to pack for you too?

Furrylittlesweetpotatoes · 04/08/2025 16:46

@togo1004 if this is a real thread then I am actually sorry. We tried very hard to get through to you but this is an inevitable consequence of your demanding, controlling and manipulative behaviour.

I do however hope you are safe and have somewhere to go!

mummytrex · 04/08/2025 17:01

togo1004 · 04/08/2025 13:12

Ok let me ask you a question and tell me if im
wrong here.

i found out that he can get a second SIM card with a separate number which i can use for free.

so I asked him to call today and he forgot. I got pissed but stayed quiet.

then he said my bad I forgot can you remind me
tomorrow incase I forget?

i said you need to write it down and it’s not my job to remind you.

he said you need the card not me, I’ll write it but can you remind me as well incase I forget?

I told him it’s his job to remember.

he said no it’s not you need the card not me ill
write it down and try to remember but incase I forget you need to remind me cuz YOU need it not ME. Then I said no it’s your responsibility. He called me a mean crazy bitch and stormed out.

now we are in fact like he always say.

can you honestly say it’s my fault??

Appreciate that things have moved on but yes it was your fault/ you're unreasonable.

He was right it made no difference to him if you had the SIM card. YOU wanted it, yet rather than work with him shot yourself in the foot by being awkward. I mean did you want the favour or not? Name calling isn't ok, but your behaviour and general thought process (based on what you're telling us) isn't normal/ok/reasonable. Let the poor man go.

mummytrex · 04/08/2025 17:04

And for the record he hasn't broken up with you because you asked for a SIM card. He was willing, you created an argument for no reason (ie) it's your crazy and entitled behaviour that has caused this.

CaptainFuture · 04/08/2025 17:44

@mummytrex just saw your post and need to go catch up but have everything crossed he's actually broken up with her and escaped!

CaptainFuture · 04/08/2025 17:46

togo1004 · 04/08/2025 16:20

Well we just broke up, he told me to pack my stuff and leave within 2 hours or he’s calling the police..

The Office Party Hard GIF

Oh thank fuck!! Run that man run!! Block the number change the locks!! Awwwoga!!

Crazymayfly · 04/08/2025 19:23

I’ve never felt more happy for someone I do not know (your BF). It’s not nice is it, when someone actually concentrates on themselves, puts themself first, like he is doing now. It’s for the best for him.

Take this as a proper fresh start - Please, try and get psychiatric help (not a therapist) and that may just help you after you’ve done the hard work it’s going to take in becoming a reasonable and emotionally healthy person.

Sadly I think you’ll be back on MN soon with another new post saying someone has been gaslighting you. But maybe this is the trigger that you needed.

CaptainFuture · 04/08/2025 19:57

Hopefully @Crazymayfly but am expecting a new level of drama, where he's returned to her, prostate with sorrow and grief, denouncing himself, and all he knows and holds dear.....if she would only accept him back.....😪😪😪

Crazymayfly · 04/08/2025 20:08

CaptainFuture · 04/08/2025 19:57

Hopefully @Crazymayfly but am expecting a new level of drama, where he's returned to her, prostate with sorrow and grief, denouncing himself, and all he knows and holds dear.....if she would only accept him back.....😪😪😪

I think it’s more likely she’s lying on the floor waiting for him to come home so she can pretend she’s fainted and then she’ll say to him “see this - you’ve caused this - look at what a state I am in and this is your fault for being abusive” and she will not see any irony in that at all.

BuckChuckets · 04/08/2025 20:19

togo1004 · 04/08/2025 16:20

Well we just broke up, he told me to pack my stuff and leave within 2 hours or he’s calling the police..

This is great news! Good for him.

CaptainFuture · 04/08/2025 20:30

Crazymayfly · 04/08/2025 20:08

I think it’s more likely she’s lying on the floor waiting for him to come home so she can pretend she’s fainted and then she’ll say to him “see this - you’ve caused this - look at what a state I am in and this is your fault for being abusive” and she will not see any irony in that at all.

I'm thinking more 'passed out in the bath under a running shower'... artfully arranged of course..

YourSnugGreyPanda · 04/08/2025 21:43

There is no way this poster is genuine or any of this is true. It is shocking that this and her(?) previous threads haven’t been deleted because I have known Mumsnet to be very quick to jump on people they presume are trolls that aren’t.

BUT

On the off chance this is real…

I’m glad he broke up with you but am worried about your safety and mental health. You present as being a narcissist and unable to function as an adult. Please go home and seek professional help.

CaptainFuture · 04/08/2025 21:48

Agree @YourSnugGreyPanda and know itw non-u to say , but reported early on and still stands.

carmak · 04/08/2025 22:13

MN can't always prove whether a poster is genuine or not. You just have to trust your own judgement in the end....

YourSnugGreyPanda · 04/08/2025 22:17

carmak · 04/08/2025 22:13

MN can't always prove whether a poster is genuine or not. You just have to trust your own judgement in the end....

Does anyone think this poster is genuine?

Crazymayfly · 04/08/2025 22:36

YourSnugGreyPanda · 04/08/2025 22:17

Does anyone think this poster is genuine?

Had my doubts on the last thread when she was recording her bf in the shower. Apparently he was just talking to himself and he wasn’t even allowed to do that.

Imagine trying to have a little hand shandy in the shower and your creepy GF is listening with a cup at the door or a mobile phone recording you? And then tells you off for the tone of voice used when you were talking to yourself? 🤷🏻‍♀️

This is some serious personality disorder. I don’t think any normal therapist could assist. I feel like it’ll take a staycation on a specialist unit and intensive treatment.

Maybe we should flag this to MN - is OP ill enough to harm her BF?

togo1004 · 05/08/2025 01:48

Crazymayfly · 04/08/2025 19:23

I’ve never felt more happy for someone I do not know (your BF). It’s not nice is it, when someone actually concentrates on themselves, puts themself first, like he is doing now. It’s for the best for him.

Take this as a proper fresh start - Please, try and get psychiatric help (not a therapist) and that may just help you after you’ve done the hard work it’s going to take in becoming a reasonable and emotionally healthy person.

Sadly I think you’ll be back on MN soon with another new post saying someone has been gaslighting you. But maybe this is the trigger that you needed.

I’ve decided to get medicine for depression and will see a psychiatrist back home.

i feel like anyone I get close to I ruin their life. Tbh my ex husband had similar comments, my best friend and a photographer friend and now my ex fiancé all said that I’m difficult, and has no consideration for others.

but I never saw how I don’t. How can I fix something when I think I did nothing wrong and to me they are the ones who are selfish.

Ive had a final chat with my ex fiancé. The truth is at the airport I got really angry but didn’t press and that feeling lingered over me. I told him my back pack was heavy and he was carrying my laptop bag, our bag, and his bag. He’s a very strong guy, and I asked him to carry my backpack as to me it was heavy although it weighed 2kg. My lower back was killing me, and he said babe I’m already carrying too many can you just carry your backpack. I felt a stab in my heart because at the minimum no matter what as a man should carry the heavy stuff. He knew how much my lower back hurt when I had to remove his keychain out of the sling bag because it was hurting me that much.

i begged him to give it one more chance but he said no and said that I was “crazy and mean”. He said that he cannot even imagine asking someone for help and then giving that kind of answer to even a stranger. And he can no longer live like he’s walking on “land mines”.

i really love this man and im literally broken. All
i I wanted was for him to understand me and if im being unreasonable for him to hug me and tell me it’s ok. My dad is coming to this country to pick me up at the airport to fly back to his home in Russia.

i don’t know what to do anymore I literally lost all purpose to live

OP posts:
togo1004 · 05/08/2025 02:08

CaptainFuture · 04/08/2025 19:57

Hopefully @Crazymayfly but am expecting a new level of drama, where he's returned to her, prostate with sorrow and grief, denouncing himself, and all he knows and holds dear.....if she would only accept him back.....😪😪😪

Theres no more drama, it’s over. He’s said unforgivable things to me and I’ve decided it’s time to leave.

all I wanted for him was to make some steps to me. If im lashing out for no reason just want him to hug me and calm me down. Is this hard?

I want to be able to talk about my feelings, how is this hard?

all he can focus on is my approach and how IM wrong. He obsessed with being right and I can NEVER win an argument with him because he knows how to phrase things in ways I have to agree.

he said instead of accusing me why not come to me and say “babe things have been bothering me can we talk about them please?” And he said he would have no problems. But this is hard for me to do. I get angry when I’m busy and I see him relaxing and playing video games. Like why isn’t he asking me if I need help? His answer is “I’ve been awake and running errands hours before you woke up and now it’s my time to relax”. Always have something to say.

ive also Told him that he talks too much. If I say 1 thing he says 5 things. He just says that it’s a conversation but to me they are arguing. Maybe you guys can help me with this.

if I say’ “all companies allow to have multiple SIM cards per phone line, I’ve had 3 before with no extra cost and all different phone numbers”

then he argues back “really? I’ve never heard about that, I’ll find out for you tomorrow babe.” Then instead of letting it go he says things like “you know what’s funny? Why do phone companies do that? What if I get like 10 SIM cards with different phone numbers and give it to my family members arnt they losing money?” Then I argue back “no all companies do this”. Then he argues back “from a business stand point it makes no sense to me, there’s gotta be some catch to this”

is this him arguing or no? He says he’s just talking but to me he’s arguing and it drives me crazy. He swears he’s just expressing his thoughts to me but he’s manipulating to make it a conversation when he’s just arguing with me.

what do you guys think??

OP posts:
Valeriekat · 05/08/2025 02:25

Your "therapist" is being totally irresponsible.

Contraryjane · 05/08/2025 05:11

It’s not arguing, or as you prefer to call it, “fighting”. It’s normal conversation and normal chit-chat.
it seems all you want to hear is him agreeing with every selfish thing you utter.
As for asking him to carry a 2kg bag for you…
you are one entitled spoiled princess.
Why does your father have to come and collect you? You need to be an adult and stand on your own two feet.

BuckChuckets · 05/08/2025 05:54

togo1004 · 05/08/2025 01:48

I’ve decided to get medicine for depression and will see a psychiatrist back home.

i feel like anyone I get close to I ruin their life. Tbh my ex husband had similar comments, my best friend and a photographer friend and now my ex fiancé all said that I’m difficult, and has no consideration for others.

but I never saw how I don’t. How can I fix something when I think I did nothing wrong and to me they are the ones who are selfish.

Ive had a final chat with my ex fiancé. The truth is at the airport I got really angry but didn’t press and that feeling lingered over me. I told him my back pack was heavy and he was carrying my laptop bag, our bag, and his bag. He’s a very strong guy, and I asked him to carry my backpack as to me it was heavy although it weighed 2kg. My lower back was killing me, and he said babe I’m already carrying too many can you just carry your backpack. I felt a stab in my heart because at the minimum no matter what as a man should carry the heavy stuff. He knew how much my lower back hurt when I had to remove his keychain out of the sling bag because it was hurting me that much.

i begged him to give it one more chance but he said no and said that I was “crazy and mean”. He said that he cannot even imagine asking someone for help and then giving that kind of answer to even a stranger. And he can no longer live like he’s walking on “land mines”.

i really love this man and im literally broken. All
i I wanted was for him to understand me and if im being unreasonable for him to hug me and tell me it’s ok. My dad is coming to this country to pick me up at the airport to fly back to his home in Russia.

i don’t know what to do anymore I literally lost all purpose to live

I don't believe any of this is real, but yes, this imaginary person you've made up all these stories about is indeed crazy and mean. So crazy and mean that she's completely unbelievable 😂

Adlenspup · 05/08/2025 05:56

togo1004 · 04/08/2025 14:07

Well he hasn’t returned, and I don’t know what to do. I think we’re going to break up and I’m freaking out.

all because I asked him for a SIM card

No, not because you asked him for a SIM card. Everything is happening because of YOU, YOU, YOU.