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YourBrickTiger · 15/07/2025 14:23

Hi - I am just hoping for a little help here...haven't been through a situation like I'm currently experiencing and it's very painful to the point of making me sick.

If I can kindly ask that no one advises against workplace romances, as I work with several couples, some of whom are married and even one who is divorced. I know a lot of people in my place of work who met here and are now married and still working together. So I thought it was ok for me too.

I don't have a support system. My parents have both passed away and friends that I do have keep everything at a surface level, which has made me unable to discuss this, therefore I apologise in advance for the length. I can't face anymore harsh criticism, so if you don't have time to read this as I understand it is very long, or you are critical of me, please be kind. I'm blaming myself enough.

I met a man, a colleague who I really liked, about 8 years ago, admired from afar as he was married and never gave it much thought other than I thought he was a really nice decent man. A few years after we started working together, he told me that his second marriage was on the rocks and that he felt unlovable. I told him that I thought he was very lovable and made a joke that if I'd marry him if they were to split. Again, didn't pay it too much mind and thought nothing would ever happen, went about my life. Another few years passed without incident.

As Covid was coming to an end, and with his marriage over, we had been getting on very well at work and one night out of the blue, he rang me and we talked for 5 hours about everything and anything. I had been single for a long time after an abusive relationship with a man from outside the UK who just disappeared on me one night after living together for almost a year. At this point, I hadn't had a relationship in 11 years and wasn't looking but I was really really drawn to this guy at work. We had a lovely conversation but again, nothing much to report afterward.

A couple of months later, I plucked up the courage to ask him if he'd like to have another phonecall (facetime). We were essential workers and still in the cloud of the pandemic so thought this was the best approach. I wasn't prepared for his response. At this point he was 49 years old, he stood up, started to rub his chest, said 'oh God no no...oh no...this is making me really uncomfortable...' and left the room. I had rehearsed this in my head all day waiting for the right moment and this happened. I was completely mortified, hurt and eventually went home and beat myself up for not being cool enough or maybe even good enough for him. When I woke up the next morning he had called me three times and sent me messages to see if I was ok. I texted back how shocked I was and how I had obviously misread the signals, but told him he was someone I had grown to like very much and that it wasn't my intention to upset or scare him. When I got back to work a few days later, he'd stopped speaking to me.

This went on for a couple of weeks so I just kept my head down and got on with it. Another two weeks passed and all of a sudden, he was trying to make me laugh again, which he always could. I was relieved he seemed ok, but just left him to it. We started to get on better, and for his 50th I bought him a silly gift, no one else in his life seemed to make an effort, so I wanted to do something for him. On one of our dates he told me that his friends dog had used it as a chew toy. (It was a bottle opener made from wood).

We would be here all year if I told you the full story but although he and his wife didn't divorce, they separated, and he said he wanted nothing to do with women for a year. This to me was fine and healthy but he made a huge announcement to me about it. Feeling it safe, I said 'well if after that year is up, would you like to have a coffee with me?' and he said 'yes...I will have a think about that'.

No more than 2 weeks passed, when we were alone and he asked me out. I was elated! We set a date and he was calling me and texting me in the build up to it. All his nerves seemed to have gone. He sent me photos of himself, went through my socials and complimented me on my photos. He even sent me a few intimate pics. In work that day he kissed me for the first time.

We had arranged for him to come to my home, as I knew him so well this wasn't an issue and we were going to have a few drinks. I made a real effort, scrubbed the house until it was shining, and made myself look really nice, I thought. He arrived at the time we arranged. We sat down for our first drink and he immediately started to become nervous again. He admitted to being nervous and I just soothed him, telling him to relax, it was just me etc...but he said 'no no I have to leave'. He was only with me despite the massive build up for 5 minutes. I was completely and totally distraught and thought it must be something to do with my looks, or weight etc. I'm not stick thin and quite curvy but he had been paying me so many compliments I thought he was attracted.

I had the awful situation of having to face him again in work but I just tried to walk past him with a brief hello. It was agonising - he did attempt a short apology but in his words it was 'sorry about everything I just got all'...and made this funny noise that you would make as if you were shivering or something.

I had developed feelings by this point but just had to try to get on with it. I was hit with various other awful things like him accusing me of stalking one of his exes. He blew up at me in work as I had clicked on her profile when she came up as a friend suggestion. It was genuine. She is friends with my cousin and I have family in the area he is from. He defriended me from facebook as I had clicked 'like' on this ladies nails, and then once I realised who she was I unliked it. Thinking no harm done, but he found out. He was SO angry with me. It crushed me that he had deleted me and when I tried to explain the family connection, he put his hand up in front of me and said 'I don't want to hear it'. When I said 'Please let me explain!' he shouted 'F* off' at me infront of my colleagues.

There is a lot of other stuff that has happened but that Christmas he approached me again after he started talking to me again and we slept together. He told me he knew how much I had fallen for him and that he just needed time as he admitted he didn't know what he was doing with his life. I told him to take all the time he needed. A few days later, he stopped speaking to me again. He approached me for another date which I agreed to and at the time he was due to meet me, he cancelled, saying he wasn't quite ready.

Then he came round again - this time my idea I admit it as I couldn't let him go. We became more involved and he came to my home, asked to see my family albums, made me promises about holidays, the future, said I didn't have to be concerned about money anymore (I'm very independent so it isn't a money issue anyway but was nice to have support). We were close, talking on the phone, being intimate, he even said 'imagine how everyone in work will feel when they find out we've been together for like 8 months' or something..! He told me he wanted me to meet his family, and let me facetime with his sister. It was clear she knew who I was and paid me lots of compliments, telling me she only wanted him to be happy. I said I would never hurt him and would always try to make him happy. He told his sister that I would do anything for him and he told me he felt I was his soulmate. He told other people (who told me) that he had told them he knew I had fallen for him and that I was a lovely girl who would make a wonderful wife.

On the day we were due to meet his family, his whole demeanour changed. We woke up and even his facial expressions were different. He said 'I have to go now' and when I enquired about the family he said 'we'll do it another time'. He assured me he wasn't coming back but I didn't hear from him for 5 days. He sent a text to say he wanted to be alone, he didn't love me, he knew I loved him, that all it was was 'sex and a drink', and that he knew I'd react badly and he had to go because I was stressing him out.

I totally and completely fell apart but managed to sort of hold it together at work. Despite his text, a month later he approached me again, asking for another chance and when I asked him why he had told me he didn't want me, his explanation was that he had just freaked out because he knew I had such deep feelings. Of course I agreed. Nearly as soon as I agreed, he turned cold. Despite the fact we'd made a date, he became cold with me. When I asked him why, he said 'I'm not going back there, I can't do it'.

This was the only time that I visibly cracked at work. Someone saw me crying and told my colleague who told him. He became so so angry with me that he arranged a meeting with me and my boss in which he said in front of my boss 'I did not make love to you - I f*** you'. My boss said nothing. He told me he could 'get any girl in a bar and take her home' and told me that I had caused him a total nightmare.

I took some time off work and when I returned I didn't go near him. But apparently made one fatal mistake. I borrowed his coffee cup. One day when I forgot my own, I used his. Washed it thoroughly and put it back. He found out about this too because someone started to tease him about me using it and he apparently laughed. But with me it was a different story. He took the cup home and said 'I don't like anyone using my stuff'. Despite having been in my home etc.

For the next month he stopped talking to me and texted my colleagues to say things like 'Tell her I'm hiding in the toilets' or 'has she gone yet?'. I was so devastated because all I had done was borrowed a cup. I hadn't bothered him, begged him, stalked him, annoyed him, nothing at all. I had left him alone. I begged my boss to talk to him, to get him to stop and he said he would not speak to him, but would keep an eye on it. It continued for over a month with no help until I begged my boss. I was so humiliated and because of this, decided to move to a different department.

On the day that I moved, the guy was coming out of the department I work in. I don't know why he was there but he shouted 'Good luck in the new job!' at me and walked on. I have rarely seen him since but if I do bump into him he is very nice, talkative wants to show me pictures on his phone etc. I do not understand this behaviour. He was hiding from me, but now he's being nice?

Because of everything that has happened, I have become a shell of myself. I work alone now, with very little interaction with anyone, I've isolated myself and feel like everyone hates me or doesn't want me around. He has remained in his position, which I guess is down to me as I didn't make a fuss as I would never have wanted him to be hurt. So I've carried it all. I felt I had up to a point a good relationship with my former boss but he didn't speak out for me or help me with some of the language that was used, the hiding in the toilets and the silent treatment that the guy inflicted in work. I've heard rumours of being called names like Baby Reindeer which I never was. I never stalked him, called him repeatedly, went to his home, didn't do anything harmful to him at all. He said that 'you went about it all the wrong way'. I have never asked a guy out before so that was a huge knock.

His kids don't talk to him anymore and I had hoped he would be able to reconcile whatever happened with my help but it's never happened. He told me his ex wife has turned them against him.

I've come away thinking that I'm a freak, that there is something the matter with me because I fell for someone who I genuinely liked. It is killing me, I've had to have therapy but nothing is convincing me that I didn't cause this by loving him and by believing he was just scared and giving so many chances. There are days I just don't cope at all, then days I really do, and days I really miss him so so much. I believed he was a different man, I still do believe he's lost and afraid but I don't know why he had to do this to someone who had been so kind to him and loving for so long, even when we weren't together. My fear is now that I'm no good for anyone and never will be. I'm 49 now and can't get past it. No matter what I try to do it's like a black cloud hanging over me. I really doubt myself now, all my interactions with people and fear because I'm not picture perfect, or picture thin that this happened to me due to that. To me he is very handsome, so maybe that's it? I am so scared for my future now, and my health is declining. I didn't know it was such a crime to be in love but if someone does hide from me in the bathroom, it surely means I'm repulsive? Out of everything I had shared with him and everything he knew, the hiding is probably the worst. I have thought of ending my life because if I am that bad what is the point, but I am trying to believe that maybe this isn't my fault? I just don't know anymore and thank you from the bottom of my heart to anyone who takes the time to read this and for letting me talk.

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YourBrickTiger · 08/09/2025 15:21

Itsalittlewetout · 08/09/2025 14:53

No and it’s against the law to record someone without their consent.

I knew he was doing it but he has done it before. What he hopes to achieve from it is anyone's guess.

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momtoboys · 08/09/2025 15:49

YourBrickTiger · 08/09/2025 15:21

I knew he was doing it but he has done it before. What he hopes to achieve from it is anyone's guess.

I would hazard a guess that he is gathering evidence because he believes you are mentally ill.

YourBrickTiger · 08/09/2025 17:14

momtoboys · 08/09/2025 15:49

I would hazard a guess that he is gathering evidence because he believes you are mentally ill.

Which is what I guess you believe too considering this and your last deleted post? Have you actually read everything I’ve written? Do you have any idea how damaging this is to hear given my story?

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ForgetMeNotRose · 08/09/2025 18:04

I think he is mentally unwell, as it sounds like he has been on a few occasions. It also sounds like he was having hallucinations or some kind of delirium. He might be having some paranoid thoughts along with that and recording conversations can be part of that.

TheAverageJoanne · 08/09/2025 18:04

ForgetMeNotRose · 08/09/2025 18:04

I think he is mentally unwell, as it sounds like he has been on a few occasions. It also sounds like he was having hallucinations or some kind of delirium. He might be having some paranoid thoughts along with that and recording conversations can be part of that.

He took coke, which is probably behind all that.

YourBrickTiger · 08/09/2025 21:10

TheAverageJoanne · 08/09/2025 18:04

He took coke, which is probably behind all that.

No it’s my brother that recorded me, not the guy.

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YourBrickTiger · 10/09/2025 11:55

Hi everyone I really need to talk I'm sorry. I have been trying so hard but yesterday has hit me like a train. And it has my mind in overdrive. I'm so sorry to bother you again.

I feel physically sick and I know you may think this is a massive overreaction but it's how I feel so please be kind.

I saw him again yesterday again unexpectedly, as I was leaving. I did not know he'd be there. He was grumbling about being kept late and told me he was going to the gym. Almost immediately I felt myself panic inside. Again, my weight. But also because all I can think of is how there will be women there. Skinny women showing parts of their bodies. What if he meets someone there and they fall in love and he treats her better? What if that is all it takes is going to the gym? Some of my 'friends' have said some really unhelpful things like 'maybe it will work, maybe it won't' but that is like literally one of the most confusing things anyone could say to me because why would it work, if he's literally as bad as everyone thinks?? I'm now tormenting myself with an imaginary woman!

Also I was quite excited yesterday as I was going to an event that I may be working at over Halloween my favourite time of year, and I threw it in after he said about the gym because I felt so awkward. I told him what was involved and he said 'Nah, fek that! Someone might punch you in the face!' I said 'thanks for the encouragement, bye'.

I have no idea what I ever did to this guy to make him treat me like shit on his shoe. I absolutely loved him, deeply, but on the way home I got totally lost I wasn't even concentrating I was so upset. I had to pull over and I was nearly sick. It's the things that haven't even happened that are torturing me, but also because NO MATTER WHAT I have done, no matter how hard I try, no matter if I'm even making polite conversation it's like I'm a pauper and he's a prince - and I can only determine it's because there is something wrong with me. My looks, my weight, even my own brother thinks I'm bipolar.

And then one of my American friends said that 'he will meet someone and date again' as if he's normal. And 'maybe it will work maybe it won't, maybe she will like him'. So all of this means, it's ME there isn't anything wrong with him at all if this can happen! I don't understand this when he said I was his soulmate and he knows I'd give him anything and wanted me to meet his family - why is there always someone better???

I'm distraught with these thoughts I'm so so sorry everyone. Please don't be angry with me I literally had no idea he would be there yesterday. Why is everyone in my head better than me? Why can everyone else make him happy but I can't?

So sorry I'm absolutely distraught.

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TheAverageJoanne · 10/09/2025 12:09

What if he meets someone there and they fall in love and he treats her better?

That won't happen, narcissistic people only fall in love with themselves. Even if it did be very glad that woman is not you because he's a nutcase and that side will always come out.

Deal with this by focusing on you, your cats, your life and you getting fit for yourself. Bollocks to him, grey rock him every time. What he does doesn't affect you as the arsehole is out of your life and be thankful for that.

It's all about YOU.

Itsalittlewetout · 10/09/2025 12:10

YourBrickTiger · 10/09/2025 11:55

Hi everyone I really need to talk I'm sorry. I have been trying so hard but yesterday has hit me like a train. And it has my mind in overdrive. I'm so sorry to bother you again.

I feel physically sick and I know you may think this is a massive overreaction but it's how I feel so please be kind.

I saw him again yesterday again unexpectedly, as I was leaving. I did not know he'd be there. He was grumbling about being kept late and told me he was going to the gym. Almost immediately I felt myself panic inside. Again, my weight. But also because all I can think of is how there will be women there. Skinny women showing parts of their bodies. What if he meets someone there and they fall in love and he treats her better? What if that is all it takes is going to the gym? Some of my 'friends' have said some really unhelpful things like 'maybe it will work, maybe it won't' but that is like literally one of the most confusing things anyone could say to me because why would it work, if he's literally as bad as everyone thinks?? I'm now tormenting myself with an imaginary woman!

Also I was quite excited yesterday as I was going to an event that I may be working at over Halloween my favourite time of year, and I threw it in after he said about the gym because I felt so awkward. I told him what was involved and he said 'Nah, fek that! Someone might punch you in the face!' I said 'thanks for the encouragement, bye'.

I have no idea what I ever did to this guy to make him treat me like shit on his shoe. I absolutely loved him, deeply, but on the way home I got totally lost I wasn't even concentrating I was so upset. I had to pull over and I was nearly sick. It's the things that haven't even happened that are torturing me, but also because NO MATTER WHAT I have done, no matter how hard I try, no matter if I'm even making polite conversation it's like I'm a pauper and he's a prince - and I can only determine it's because there is something wrong with me. My looks, my weight, even my own brother thinks I'm bipolar.

And then one of my American friends said that 'he will meet someone and date again' as if he's normal. And 'maybe it will work maybe it won't, maybe she will like him'. So all of this means, it's ME there isn't anything wrong with him at all if this can happen! I don't understand this when he said I was his soulmate and he knows I'd give him anything and wanted me to meet his family - why is there always someone better???

I'm distraught with these thoughts I'm so so sorry everyone. Please don't be angry with me I literally had no idea he would be there yesterday. Why is everyone in my head better than me? Why can everyone else make him happy but I can't?

So sorry I'm absolutely distraught.

Stop talking and listening to people who are not experienced in Narcissistic people. They haven’t got a clue. Their advice will be more damaging then good.

This man you see looking down at you is the real person inside his body. He is delusional. He doesn’t view people in a healthy way. He puts them up on pedestals or down in the gutter. He relies on people like yourself who are “trying” to make him happy as that confirms his specialness. So yeah he will be on the hunt for more women. He will bask in the love bombing but eventually his true colours will show and they will be discarded. He doesn’t want relationships he wanted your effort but he’s a nasty man who can’t help himself.

YourBrickTiger · 10/09/2025 12:40

TheAverageJoanne · 10/09/2025 12:09

What if he meets someone there and they fall in love and he treats her better?

That won't happen, narcissistic people only fall in love with themselves. Even if it did be very glad that woman is not you because he's a nutcase and that side will always come out.

Deal with this by focusing on you, your cats, your life and you getting fit for yourself. Bollocks to him, grey rock him every time. What he does doesn't affect you as the arsehole is out of your life and be thankful for that.

It's all about YOU.

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I’m afraid I don’t understand and that is so condradictory for me. Being told he isn’t capable of being in love then saying ‘even if he does’ ?!

I still have no idea at what point I went wrong with him, or why he is willing to throw the total love I had for him aside for the unknown. It speaks volumes about me I think. Even yesterday when he was talking to me it was like we’d never had a relationship - I don’t know how he can be so cold unless it’s a fault with me. He’s 54 for Gods sake is it not time to grow up?? And who is special enough for him to put on a pedestal?

I can’t get the imaginary perfect woman out of my head and it’s killing me. I realise you’ve all been very patient with me but I clearly have such an awful understanding of any of this. I will always assume someone is better. I’m sorry I’m so frustrating- I don’t think there is any hope of me ever recovering from this. I feel like a bad smell.

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Itsalittlewetout · 10/09/2025 12:40

This is the internal thinking of a narc. They are special and they only want to receive special treatment. We come along and we see that person, they are highly charismatic and really charming and think oooo this is nice. It’s all going well. Then perhaps we say something that doesn’t reflect their specialness. Something like, I was a bit upset by how you spoke to me. They take this as an attack to their specialness. We need some empathy one day as we feeling sad about something. Oh god now I have to give this person some of my energy, god I can’t be bothered. I thought they would be the perfect person for me to reflect my specialness but that actually want something from me. Toss this one as I can’t be bothered.

Itsalittlewetout · 10/09/2025 12:42

Your problem OP is that you want a normal healthy relationship, he don’t do those Im
afraid!

YourBrickTiger · 10/09/2025 13:18

He should have been clear from the beginning instead of watching me fall for him over a few years, then acting on it, and every time he pulled back he said he needed more time and I gave him it. I slept with him after not being with anyone for SUCH a long time. He was everything to me. I loved him. And he KNEW that.

I really feel like I could not have done anything more and it wasn't enough. Now the word GYM has me spiralling. Because I'm assuming people there are better. That there will magically be HER in there. I'm completely done. I can't take another day of pain. I couldn't have loved him more and I got treated like this. I won't trust anyone again now as I don't even understand what is happening within my own head. Maybe it isn't him, maybe I simply tried too hard and fell too hard and wasn't enough. Maybe I'm not destined to be anything but I'm here for my cats. I'm just broken. I'm so sorry everyone.

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Itsalittlewetout · 10/09/2025 13:24

YourBrickTiger · 10/09/2025 13:18

He should have been clear from the beginning instead of watching me fall for him over a few years, then acting on it, and every time he pulled back he said he needed more time and I gave him it. I slept with him after not being with anyone for SUCH a long time. He was everything to me. I loved him. And he KNEW that.

I really feel like I could not have done anything more and it wasn't enough. Now the word GYM has me spiralling. Because I'm assuming people there are better. That there will magically be HER in there. I'm completely done. I can't take another day of pain. I couldn't have loved him more and I got treated like this. I won't trust anyone again now as I don't even understand what is happening within my own head. Maybe it isn't him, maybe I simply tried too hard and fell too hard and wasn't enough. Maybe I'm not destined to be anything but I'm here for my cats. I'm just broken. I'm so sorry everyone.

He doesn’t know what he is.

FrogFrogFrog · 10/09/2025 13:29

@YourBrickTiger , I'm so sorry you're struggling. Are you on any medication for anxiety? I'm on propranolol, and it really does make a difference. GPs are generally happy to prescribe it. Is it worth making an appointment and telling your GP how you feel? x

YourBrickTiger · 10/09/2025 13:33

FrogFrogFrog · 10/09/2025 13:29

@YourBrickTiger , I'm so sorry you're struggling. Are you on any medication for anxiety? I'm on propranolol, and it really does make a difference. GPs are generally happy to prescribe it. Is it worth making an appointment and telling your GP how you feel? x

Yes I'm on 2 types of medication. It helps with my anxiety I know because if I miss it I cannot cope. But this goes beyond that. I just feel useless and absolutely done now. Why is the thought of him going to the gym upsetting me and why wouldn't he be supportive of my Halloween event? Said someone might punch me in the face, maybe I deserve to be punched in the face.

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Itsalittlewetout · 10/09/2025 13:38

YourBrickTiger · 10/09/2025 13:33

Yes I'm on 2 types of medication. It helps with my anxiety I know because if I miss it I cannot cope. But this goes beyond that. I just feel useless and absolutely done now. Why is the thought of him going to the gym upsetting me and why wouldn't he be supportive of my Halloween event? Said someone might punch me in the face, maybe I deserve to be punched in the face.

He needs to be punched in the face.
Stop viewing yourself through the behaviour of this man or any other man. Cut the tie between people and how you feel about yourself.

FrogFrogFrog · 10/09/2025 13:41

Oh, OP. You really need to get away from that job. It's not doing you any good at all having to see him on a regular basis. You've given him all the power over your self-esteem, and it's heartbreaking to see.

All of us want to see you thrive, but at the end of the day, nothing we say will matter until you realise that you're a good person and you deserve better.

YourBrickTiger · 10/09/2025 13:50

FrogFrogFrog · 10/09/2025 13:41

Oh, OP. You really need to get away from that job. It's not doing you any good at all having to see him on a regular basis. You've given him all the power over your self-esteem, and it's heartbreaking to see.

All of us want to see you thrive, but at the end of the day, nothing we say will matter until you realise that you're a good person and you deserve better.

It's like a badge I wear now in my head that says 'defective'. That's how it's made me feel. Even when he's talking to me it's either with his feet up on the desk, his back turned or staring at his phone. I am not good enough to even be in his presence. I can't afford to get my hair done at the minute, money is so tight, I'm trying to hold everything together, pay my bills, feed my cats, make sure I don't lose my house and I can't do anymore. I really don't see the harm in just dying and letting them all win. I could leave him a note and say don't blame yourself but my confusion at not being enough is too much for me to bear now. It's endless pain, comparisons to other women and never understanding why. I just can't do it anymore.

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TheAverageJoanne · 10/09/2025 13:57

@YourBrickTiger I meant even if he does take up with someone else. Nothing deeper than that. He might say he's in love (hypothetical here) but I don't believe he's capable.

YourBrickTiger · 10/09/2025 14:12

TheAverageJoanne · 10/09/2025 13:57

@YourBrickTiger I meant even if he does take up with someone else. Nothing deeper than that. He might say he's in love (hypothetical here) but I don't believe he's capable.

I feel embarrassed saying this but I was getting used to being intimate again, believing someone wanted to be with me, knowing how much I loved and wanted to be with them. Now with him saying he's going to the gym, I feel it's my less than skinny body that put him off, but he said I was beautiful and that he really loved certain parts of me. (Sorry that's very cringey).

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FrogFrogFrog · 10/09/2025 14:21

"I really don't see the harm in just dying and letting them all win. I could leave him a note and say don't blame yourself but my confusion at not being enough is too much for me to bear now. It's endless pain, comparisons to other women and never understanding why. I just can't do it anymore."

Please, please go see your GP and tell them this.

Sunflowers67 · 10/09/2025 15:36

Please please please do some work on yourself - your brain needs a major re-train from the abuse he put you through and is still putting you through. But the re-training wont come from him or interactions with him - it has to come from you. The more you repeat to yourself that there has to be something wrong with you, that you caused it because you were too thin or too fat, blonde instead of brunette etc etc the more it compounds the belief.
Its like brainwashing yourself and you have to stop it.

I know how hard it is - I really really do as I have been there and I will never, ever go there again.
I believed that it must have been me, I tortured myself with him meeting the love of his life and that caused sheer panic, I tortured myself with the fun he must have been having, the endless sleepless nights of wondering how I could of been better so as he didn't treat me badly.
That whole thinking is destructive, will keep you stuck and quite frankly, is utterly wrong.

It is you that you have to think about - where your complete focus must be on.
You can decide that you have had enough of feeling like this and you can take some baby steps to heal - avoid him. If that's not possible, do not engage. Head high and walk the other way. If he speaks, ignore him. If you had done that the other day, he would not have had the power over you to then wonder what would happen at the Gym as you wouldn't have even known he was going there. He would not have known that you were working the Halloween event so could not have said bad things.

Please please do try and take on board what some of us are saying as we do have your best interests at heart, we want you to heal and we want you to be happy in yourself.

A little exercise for you - the next post must be all the positives in your life, about what you like, what floats your boat, what do you enjoy doing, what would you like to do if money was no object. Come on Bricktiger - we are all rooting for you here.

Itsalittlewetout · 10/09/2025 15:44

They aren’t trying to win, they are mentally challenged. You must be able to feel what trying to join their thinking feels like?! It’s the thinking of mentally challenged people, it makes you feel mad because it is mad, In order for you to think like them and feel comfortable in their world you will have to be mad like them. But you aren’t, you are sane, that’s why it feels so disjointed.

GwendolineFairfax8 · 10/09/2025 15:47

@YourBrickTiger

Don’t worry about coming on here to vent. Anyone who doesn’t want to listen can move along.

Your brother sounds awful (he was awful to your Mum, not just you). Him saying you are bipolar does not mean you are bipolar (you are grief stricken and there is a big difference). Please consider seeking a proper diagnosis because I would bet good money you are not.

The man you love is rude and unkind and I doubt he will find someone new at the gym. Cross that bridge if it happens. Imagine telling people in real life who do not know him what he says and does. He is an embarrassment to the decent men out there.

In my opinion (feel free to ignore me), it would be good if you sold your house, rented for a while and used some cash to change your life. Have a makeover, attend a detox retreat to lose weight etc. I am not saying thin is the answer but you are so clearly unhappy with your size it must be worth a try. I leave my retreat feeling I could take on the world!

I am not normally frivolous but you often write about wanting to end your pain and there is so much life out there waiting for you.

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