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YourBrickTiger · 15/07/2025 14:23

Hi - I am just hoping for a little help here...haven't been through a situation like I'm currently experiencing and it's very painful to the point of making me sick.

If I can kindly ask that no one advises against workplace romances, as I work with several couples, some of whom are married and even one who is divorced. I know a lot of people in my place of work who met here and are now married and still working together. So I thought it was ok for me too.

I don't have a support system. My parents have both passed away and friends that I do have keep everything at a surface level, which has made me unable to discuss this, therefore I apologise in advance for the length. I can't face anymore harsh criticism, so if you don't have time to read this as I understand it is very long, or you are critical of me, please be kind. I'm blaming myself enough.

I met a man, a colleague who I really liked, about 8 years ago, admired from afar as he was married and never gave it much thought other than I thought he was a really nice decent man. A few years after we started working together, he told me that his second marriage was on the rocks and that he felt unlovable. I told him that I thought he was very lovable and made a joke that if I'd marry him if they were to split. Again, didn't pay it too much mind and thought nothing would ever happen, went about my life. Another few years passed without incident.

As Covid was coming to an end, and with his marriage over, we had been getting on very well at work and one night out of the blue, he rang me and we talked for 5 hours about everything and anything. I had been single for a long time after an abusive relationship with a man from outside the UK who just disappeared on me one night after living together for almost a year. At this point, I hadn't had a relationship in 11 years and wasn't looking but I was really really drawn to this guy at work. We had a lovely conversation but again, nothing much to report afterward.

A couple of months later, I plucked up the courage to ask him if he'd like to have another phonecall (facetime). We were essential workers and still in the cloud of the pandemic so thought this was the best approach. I wasn't prepared for his response. At this point he was 49 years old, he stood up, started to rub his chest, said 'oh God no no...oh no...this is making me really uncomfortable...' and left the room. I had rehearsed this in my head all day waiting for the right moment and this happened. I was completely mortified, hurt and eventually went home and beat myself up for not being cool enough or maybe even good enough for him. When I woke up the next morning he had called me three times and sent me messages to see if I was ok. I texted back how shocked I was and how I had obviously misread the signals, but told him he was someone I had grown to like very much and that it wasn't my intention to upset or scare him. When I got back to work a few days later, he'd stopped speaking to me.

This went on for a couple of weeks so I just kept my head down and got on with it. Another two weeks passed and all of a sudden, he was trying to make me laugh again, which he always could. I was relieved he seemed ok, but just left him to it. We started to get on better, and for his 50th I bought him a silly gift, no one else in his life seemed to make an effort, so I wanted to do something for him. On one of our dates he told me that his friends dog had used it as a chew toy. (It was a bottle opener made from wood).

We would be here all year if I told you the full story but although he and his wife didn't divorce, they separated, and he said he wanted nothing to do with women for a year. This to me was fine and healthy but he made a huge announcement to me about it. Feeling it safe, I said 'well if after that year is up, would you like to have a coffee with me?' and he said 'yes...I will have a think about that'.

No more than 2 weeks passed, when we were alone and he asked me out. I was elated! We set a date and he was calling me and texting me in the build up to it. All his nerves seemed to have gone. He sent me photos of himself, went through my socials and complimented me on my photos. He even sent me a few intimate pics. In work that day he kissed me for the first time.

We had arranged for him to come to my home, as I knew him so well this wasn't an issue and we were going to have a few drinks. I made a real effort, scrubbed the house until it was shining, and made myself look really nice, I thought. He arrived at the time we arranged. We sat down for our first drink and he immediately started to become nervous again. He admitted to being nervous and I just soothed him, telling him to relax, it was just me etc...but he said 'no no I have to leave'. He was only with me despite the massive build up for 5 minutes. I was completely and totally distraught and thought it must be something to do with my looks, or weight etc. I'm not stick thin and quite curvy but he had been paying me so many compliments I thought he was attracted.

I had the awful situation of having to face him again in work but I just tried to walk past him with a brief hello. It was agonising - he did attempt a short apology but in his words it was 'sorry about everything I just got all'...and made this funny noise that you would make as if you were shivering or something.

I had developed feelings by this point but just had to try to get on with it. I was hit with various other awful things like him accusing me of stalking one of his exes. He blew up at me in work as I had clicked on her profile when she came up as a friend suggestion. It was genuine. She is friends with my cousin and I have family in the area he is from. He defriended me from facebook as I had clicked 'like' on this ladies nails, and then once I realised who she was I unliked it. Thinking no harm done, but he found out. He was SO angry with me. It crushed me that he had deleted me and when I tried to explain the family connection, he put his hand up in front of me and said 'I don't want to hear it'. When I said 'Please let me explain!' he shouted 'F* off' at me infront of my colleagues.

There is a lot of other stuff that has happened but that Christmas he approached me again after he started talking to me again and we slept together. He told me he knew how much I had fallen for him and that he just needed time as he admitted he didn't know what he was doing with his life. I told him to take all the time he needed. A few days later, he stopped speaking to me again. He approached me for another date which I agreed to and at the time he was due to meet me, he cancelled, saying he wasn't quite ready.

Then he came round again - this time my idea I admit it as I couldn't let him go. We became more involved and he came to my home, asked to see my family albums, made me promises about holidays, the future, said I didn't have to be concerned about money anymore (I'm very independent so it isn't a money issue anyway but was nice to have support). We were close, talking on the phone, being intimate, he even said 'imagine how everyone in work will feel when they find out we've been together for like 8 months' or something..! He told me he wanted me to meet his family, and let me facetime with his sister. It was clear she knew who I was and paid me lots of compliments, telling me she only wanted him to be happy. I said I would never hurt him and would always try to make him happy. He told his sister that I would do anything for him and he told me he felt I was his soulmate. He told other people (who told me) that he had told them he knew I had fallen for him and that I was a lovely girl who would make a wonderful wife.

On the day we were due to meet his family, his whole demeanour changed. We woke up and even his facial expressions were different. He said 'I have to go now' and when I enquired about the family he said 'we'll do it another time'. He assured me he wasn't coming back but I didn't hear from him for 5 days. He sent a text to say he wanted to be alone, he didn't love me, he knew I loved him, that all it was was 'sex and a drink', and that he knew I'd react badly and he had to go because I was stressing him out.

I totally and completely fell apart but managed to sort of hold it together at work. Despite his text, a month later he approached me again, asking for another chance and when I asked him why he had told me he didn't want me, his explanation was that he had just freaked out because he knew I had such deep feelings. Of course I agreed. Nearly as soon as I agreed, he turned cold. Despite the fact we'd made a date, he became cold with me. When I asked him why, he said 'I'm not going back there, I can't do it'.

This was the only time that I visibly cracked at work. Someone saw me crying and told my colleague who told him. He became so so angry with me that he arranged a meeting with me and my boss in which he said in front of my boss 'I did not make love to you - I f*** you'. My boss said nothing. He told me he could 'get any girl in a bar and take her home' and told me that I had caused him a total nightmare.

I took some time off work and when I returned I didn't go near him. But apparently made one fatal mistake. I borrowed his coffee cup. One day when I forgot my own, I used his. Washed it thoroughly and put it back. He found out about this too because someone started to tease him about me using it and he apparently laughed. But with me it was a different story. He took the cup home and said 'I don't like anyone using my stuff'. Despite having been in my home etc.

For the next month he stopped talking to me and texted my colleagues to say things like 'Tell her I'm hiding in the toilets' or 'has she gone yet?'. I was so devastated because all I had done was borrowed a cup. I hadn't bothered him, begged him, stalked him, annoyed him, nothing at all. I had left him alone. I begged my boss to talk to him, to get him to stop and he said he would not speak to him, but would keep an eye on it. It continued for over a month with no help until I begged my boss. I was so humiliated and because of this, decided to move to a different department.

On the day that I moved, the guy was coming out of the department I work in. I don't know why he was there but he shouted 'Good luck in the new job!' at me and walked on. I have rarely seen him since but if I do bump into him he is very nice, talkative wants to show me pictures on his phone etc. I do not understand this behaviour. He was hiding from me, but now he's being nice?

Because of everything that has happened, I have become a shell of myself. I work alone now, with very little interaction with anyone, I've isolated myself and feel like everyone hates me or doesn't want me around. He has remained in his position, which I guess is down to me as I didn't make a fuss as I would never have wanted him to be hurt. So I've carried it all. I felt I had up to a point a good relationship with my former boss but he didn't speak out for me or help me with some of the language that was used, the hiding in the toilets and the silent treatment that the guy inflicted in work. I've heard rumours of being called names like Baby Reindeer which I never was. I never stalked him, called him repeatedly, went to his home, didn't do anything harmful to him at all. He said that 'you went about it all the wrong way'. I have never asked a guy out before so that was a huge knock.

His kids don't talk to him anymore and I had hoped he would be able to reconcile whatever happened with my help but it's never happened. He told me his ex wife has turned them against him.

I've come away thinking that I'm a freak, that there is something the matter with me because I fell for someone who I genuinely liked. It is killing me, I've had to have therapy but nothing is convincing me that I didn't cause this by loving him and by believing he was just scared and giving so many chances. There are days I just don't cope at all, then days I really do, and days I really miss him so so much. I believed he was a different man, I still do believe he's lost and afraid but I don't know why he had to do this to someone who had been so kind to him and loving for so long, even when we weren't together. My fear is now that I'm no good for anyone and never will be. I'm 49 now and can't get past it. No matter what I try to do it's like a black cloud hanging over me. I really doubt myself now, all my interactions with people and fear because I'm not picture perfect, or picture thin that this happened to me due to that. To me he is very handsome, so maybe that's it? I am so scared for my future now, and my health is declining. I didn't know it was such a crime to be in love but if someone does hide from me in the bathroom, it surely means I'm repulsive? Out of everything I had shared with him and everything he knew, the hiding is probably the worst. I have thought of ending my life because if I am that bad what is the point, but I am trying to believe that maybe this isn't my fault? I just don't know anymore and thank you from the bottom of my heart to anyone who takes the time to read this and for letting me talk.

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Itsalittlewetout · 10/09/2025 15:49

I sometimes catch myself out. I am sane, you are sane. It is funny when you look back at the amount of insane we have been subjected to and we are still normal…and yes you are so normal, having normal reactions to the insane behaviour of others.

Sunflowers67 · 10/09/2025 15:57

I really don't see the harm in just dying and letting them all win. I could leave him a note and say don't blame yourself but my confusion at not being enough is too much for me to bear now. It's endless pain, comparisons to other women and never understanding why. I just can't do it anymore.

What would happen to your cats? Who would care for them, keep them loved, warm, safe and fed?

I don't think you want to die - I think you want the pain of all this to go away and that is the only way out of it that you can see.

If am wrong (and it has been known to happen!) then you must ring your doctor.

Been there too unfortunately - not with the latest ex partner but one many years ago that did a number on me. I just wanted to die. But I didn't really - I just wanted to feel normal and happy in my life again, I was tired of all the struggle and the mind f*ckery that he had caused and that I couldn't understand. I saw no way out except to not be here. If I had done that, my children would have been motherless, my animals would have been in a shelter or euthanised, my parents would have been heartbroken and him? The same him that I very very rarely think about now, that is nothing in my life - well, he would not have cared one jot. He would have been laughing in the pub with his mates that my actions had proved that I was the mental one. He would not have suddenly had some eureka moment that he had been nasty and abusive, that he had thrown away a good woman that loved him - these types never do. Sadly, you met one of these types and they will not fix you, they will not love you and they would not mourn you if you were not here.

You sound like someone who is worth 100 of him so please do not let him take anything else from you. Time to fight for your dignity and self worth again.
You can do this, you can be happy and content with your life but you have to work for it.

YourBrickTiger · 10/09/2025 16:03

Thank you guys but what is the point? It's like I've said many times if I am this unworthy to the person I loved so much, what is the point? And now for my brother to be doing it to me as well?? I'm not sure there is a point in trying as it will continue to happen to me. Whatever 'defect' it is I have is obviously now really apparent. I feel like the lowest of the low no matter what I do and sure we can't even get seen by doctors here. Can't get through to the surgeries and the waiting lists are too long.

I'd love to have some money out of the house to travel but don't even know how to do that. I couldn't go to another job at the minute I'm not even strong enough to get through my day here half the time. I just feel like screaming.

If I lost the weight it might change and he may be different I don't know. There may well be more life out there for me but there's a deep sadness which I don't believe will EVER go away now. I don't have the money for fancy clothes or to tame my mane of hair at the minute, I think I'm just in survival mode every day.

He had found pictures of me when we first started going out which showed me thinner and he said I was stunning. Asked me did I put weight on when my Mum died. So I'm completely believing that this is why this didn't work. His second wife is small, but he said she was too thin.

Maybe that's why he said that yesterday maybe all I deserve is a punch in the face. I just don't understand how someone could give up someone who loves them so much for what? The unknown?

Sorry I don't want to lose anyone here, your friendships mean a lot to me.

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Itsalittlewetout · 10/09/2025 16:08

Shame will eat you alive, it’s a bastard emotion. I will tell a little secret OP. My ex used to pin me down and tried to impregnate me against my will. I had 2 abortions without anymore knowing what was happening, the shame almost killed me. But it’s not my shame to carry. I survived, we’ve all survived. If anyone wants to shame me they can do so because I know deep inside who I am. The shame you carry needs to be released somehow.

LambriniBobInIsleworthISeesYa · 10/09/2025 16:10

Hey @YourBrickTigerI made a comment way back on this thread but didn’t tell you in detail what happened to me.

I had a nervous breakdown after a relationship where I’d been groomed by a much older man in a position of power. Whilst our ages were very different during the relationship/situation, I can see so many elements of how I felt in what you’re saying on this thread. I thought that my life was over and everything felt black and hollow and worthless for years. I fully blamed myself.

That guy was a malignant narcissist and I was broken. In the end the only thing that meant I could even begin to move on was therapy. You need therapy. I say that without any shadow of doubt. If you can in any way afford to pay for some, you must. The way that you’re talking about yourself is so sad and so unfair; you need help for that or you’ll lose any sense of self worth long term. I also second the poster who said you need anxiety meds to help you over the hump too. Doesn’t matter if the doctors appointment is months away, get it booked in.

YourBrickTiger · 10/09/2025 16:12

Sunflowers67 · 10/09/2025 15:57

I really don't see the harm in just dying and letting them all win. I could leave him a note and say don't blame yourself but my confusion at not being enough is too much for me to bear now. It's endless pain, comparisons to other women and never understanding why. I just can't do it anymore.

What would happen to your cats? Who would care for them, keep them loved, warm, safe and fed?

I don't think you want to die - I think you want the pain of all this to go away and that is the only way out of it that you can see.

If am wrong (and it has been known to happen!) then you must ring your doctor.

Been there too unfortunately - not with the latest ex partner but one many years ago that did a number on me. I just wanted to die. But I didn't really - I just wanted to feel normal and happy in my life again, I was tired of all the struggle and the mind f*ckery that he had caused and that I couldn't understand. I saw no way out except to not be here. If I had done that, my children would have been motherless, my animals would have been in a shelter or euthanised, my parents would have been heartbroken and him? The same him that I very very rarely think about now, that is nothing in my life - well, he would not have cared one jot. He would have been laughing in the pub with his mates that my actions had proved that I was the mental one. He would not have suddenly had some eureka moment that he had been nasty and abusive, that he had thrown away a good woman that loved him - these types never do. Sadly, you met one of these types and they will not fix you, they will not love you and they would not mourn you if you were not here.

You sound like someone who is worth 100 of him so please do not let him take anything else from you. Time to fight for your dignity and self worth again.
You can do this, you can be happy and content with your life but you have to work for it.

Thanks that is lovely. I just think he wants PERFECTION. Someone of a certain size perfectly manicured, coiffed, certainly personality. I'm none of those things. I'm size 16-18, unruly hair a big bucket of love and affection and I loved him so much. Doesn't want it. Whoever the imaginary woman is will be perfect, even down to her very intimate parts which will also be perfect. He even told me how to groom down there and what he wanted. She will not have a trace of fat anywhere.

I have thought about my cats of course - I do have a will. But please trust me when I say that if I wasn't here it wouldn't affect anyone. Apart from caring friends on here, no one cares enough and that has now been proven by friends in 'busy seasons of life' and those who can't manage anything other than 'let me know if you need anything'. I'm not sure it's possible to understand how isolating and lonely it is for me, and the guy has just cemented that by leaving me too. In my mind, if someone is capable of being so awful it HAS to be because there is something wrong with the person they are being awful to. I mean this in regards to ME - why abuse someone who is one of the only people who has been there for you? Nothing but nothing makes sense to me anymore.

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Sunflowers67 · 10/09/2025 16:17

I'd love to have some money out of the house to travel but don't even know how to do that.
I couldn't go to another job at the minute I'm not even strong enough to get through my day here half the time. I just feel like screaming.
If I lost the weight it might change and he may be different I don't know. There may well be more life out there for me but there's a deep sadness which I don't believe will EVER go away now. I don't have the money for fancy clothes or to tame my mane of hair at the minute, I think I'm just in survival mode every day.

Travel - wow - me too! I didn't know how to go about it either, but I am going in three weeks time. Where do you want to go? What would you like to see? For me its elephants in the wild, the flashy blue sky lights (I wont even try to spell the aureo boli whatsits), I want to lie in the red sea and float.

New job - new career or just somewhere different? So, do an adult education course or sign up for an open uni online course. Start getting that CV looking better for when you are stronger.

Fancy Clothes? So, a bit of a style up then? Scout those charity shops - a huge hobby of mine and I never, ever spend much on clothes. They are all 'recycled' and I can dress nicely when I chose to :-)

Hair Taming - that's easy. Ring a few salons and ask if they have a trainee afternoon/evening. Ring the local hair & beauty college - they always want models. I very very rarely pay full price for anything like that. It also takes them twice as long as in the full priced salon so you get double the amount of pampering too.

Come on BrickTiger - you can do it!

AncoraAmarena · 10/09/2025 16:21

So many of us posting on this thread have been treated this way or maybe even in a worse way, @YourBrickTiger , by people we adored and thought that they felt the same way. Do you think the same about us as the feelings you've described about yourself?

I am sure you don't, but I am trying to show you how irrational your thoughts about yourself are.

It's the easiest thing in the world to type but you need to stop giving this moron headspace and analysing every single word or look. He's not important to you any more. YOU have chosen better than him and your choice is a life without the pain he gives you. Stop looking backwards, look forwards and not at him!

PennyRest · 10/09/2025 16:25

We don’t always fall in love with loveable people. Whether or not it is returned, your love is a valid and important gift. You aren’t less because he turned out to be. There’s nothing wrong with you, you’ve had an awful time.
I’m worried about how you’re talking now- please get help. Your GP can help you and so can therapy. You don’t have to feel like this.
Samaritans are on 116123 if you need to talk out loud to someone.

YourBrickTiger · 10/09/2025 16:27

AncoraAmarena · 10/09/2025 16:21

So many of us posting on this thread have been treated this way or maybe even in a worse way, @YourBrickTiger , by people we adored and thought that they felt the same way. Do you think the same about us as the feelings you've described about yourself?

I am sure you don't, but I am trying to show you how irrational your thoughts about yourself are.

It's the easiest thing in the world to type but you need to stop giving this moron headspace and analysing every single word or look. He's not important to you any more. YOU have chosen better than him and your choice is a life without the pain he gives you. Stop looking backwards, look forwards and not at him!

So the gym might not mean anything? And he is still a moron? I feel like the moron at the minute. I'm so tired I can hardly stand up.

I want to go to somewhere hot and sunny and just rest and read. I want my natural hair colour back and to let it flow. I can only but dream.

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CampCrow · 10/09/2025 16:29

OP, you really really have to move jobs. Look how often you keep running into him. You aren’t going to be able to get better if you keep seeing him.

You also need more professional help. It’s lovely that so many people on this thread are trying to help you and lots are giving you lots of good advice but you need to talk face to face with someone qualified to help you. I know you are seeing a councellor but I think you should go back to your GP and ask for more help.

Sunflowers67 · 10/09/2025 16:38

I just think he wants PERFECTION. Someone of a certain size perfectly manicured, coiffed, certainly personality. I'm none of those things. I'm size 16-18, unruly hair a big bucket of love and affection and I loved him so much. Doesn't want it. Whoever the imaginary woman is will be perfect, even down to her very intimate parts which will also be perfect. He even told me how to groom down there and what he wanted. She will not have a trace of fat anywhere.

He sounds like my ex - sex addict, drunken, abusive, horrible little idiot that thought life was a porn film. I even asked him once if he thought my belly button was the inflator valve. They are degrading, disrespectful pubescent little boys walking around in men's shows.

I have thought about my cats of course - I do have a will. But please trust me when I say that if I wasn't here it wouldn't affect anyone. Apart from caring friends on here, no one cares enough and that has now been proven by friends in 'busy seasons of life' and those who can't manage anything other than 'let me know if you need anything'.

Do the work needed on the 'new you' and you will meet new friends. Some will be good and some not so - but you will recognise the difference by then. Time to take out the trash and stop being grateful of the crumbs people offer. My MN buddies and supporters may be virtual but they are far more real than some of the people I had in my life 6 months ago. And I am meeting a few new people at the classes I joined and the social things I forced myself to. Of course I didn't want to go - I wanted to stay safe at home. I didn't know how to make friends at my age and I couldn't be arsed to even get dressed some days, let alone go out, smile at people and pretend I was fine. But it worked and I now look forward to some of these groups. Some I stopped going to as I learnt more about me and decided I didn't actually like basket weaving or painting with my own poop (okay, slight exaggeration).

I'm not sure it's possible to understand how isolating and lonely it is for me,

Yes I do. I live in a rural area and my only contact each week was waving at the bin men. That lonliness nearly sent me back to him, apologising and pleading for another chance as I was so alone and sad. But I started doing other stuff - really not believing what anyone said about it helping to heal me. But it does. Please please get yourself out there - other people deserve to know your kindness and caring and YOUR people are out there. But you wont find them in your living room. Be brave, get out there and sign up for a few things. Find out what you like and force yourself to go.

and the guy has just cemented that by leaving me too. In my mind, if someone is capable of being so awful it HAS to be because there is something wrong with the person they are being awful to. I mean this in regards to ME - why abuse someone who is one of the only people who has been there for you? Nothing but nothing makes sense to me anymore.

Because the world is full of bad people - wolves in sheep's clothing. You met one, I met one (or two, three, but whose counting!) and many of us on here met one as well. They are everywhere - they live and walk among us.

Itsalittlewetout · 10/09/2025 17:16

YourBrickTiger · 10/09/2025 16:12

Thanks that is lovely. I just think he wants PERFECTION. Someone of a certain size perfectly manicured, coiffed, certainly personality. I'm none of those things. I'm size 16-18, unruly hair a big bucket of love and affection and I loved him so much. Doesn't want it. Whoever the imaginary woman is will be perfect, even down to her very intimate parts which will also be perfect. He even told me how to groom down there and what he wanted. She will not have a trace of fat anywhere.

I have thought about my cats of course - I do have a will. But please trust me when I say that if I wasn't here it wouldn't affect anyone. Apart from caring friends on here, no one cares enough and that has now been proven by friends in 'busy seasons of life' and those who can't manage anything other than 'let me know if you need anything'. I'm not sure it's possible to understand how isolating and lonely it is for me, and the guy has just cemented that by leaving me too. In my mind, if someone is capable of being so awful it HAS to be because there is something wrong with the person they are being awful to. I mean this in regards to ME - why abuse someone who is one of the only people who has been there for you? Nothing but nothing makes sense to me anymore.

He doesn’t want perfection. He wants unconditional love, he wants unconditional happiness, unconditional approval. He wants something he is never going to find without bullying, manipulating and abusing the identity out of another women. He will never ever find what he wants. You a projecting what you think he wants based on your insecurities about yourself. He could have the most “beautiful” women. But even the most “beautiful” women have needs, have bad days, their loved ones die, they get colds and viruses and illnesses. He will abandon every single partner in their time of need because they need to take step back and they simply can’t, they need to remain in the spotlight all the time.

I class myself as attractive, size 8, blonde hair ,high level achiever, if this helps you understand. When I got a sickness bug, he told me I was disgusting, he left me on the floor, walked over me and sat down. He did this everytime I needed him.

TheAverageJoanne · 10/09/2025 18:46

None of it means anything. Who he fancies, what he thinks, what he does at the gym, who he meets, none of it. Because he's nasty, narcissistic and just rotten to the core. I don't think any of his thoughts about you or whatever he's said means anything because he's crackers and makes it up as he goes along to get what he wants. His opinions are worth Jack.

There's no point analysing what he said or did or thinks because it's meaningless and a waste of your energy. It's probably not about you either, it's just him being the tosser he is.

What other interactions have you had recently with people that are not to do with this loser or your brother?

AncoraAmarena · 10/09/2025 21:17

None of it means anything. You're over analysing.

It doesn't matter what he wants. He can fuck off.

He's not just a moron, he's an absolute fucking nasty piece of work and you're destroying yourself trying to piece it all together. You never will, I'm sorry.

Itsalittlewetout · 11/09/2025 07:41

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Really heartbroken
YourBrickTiger · 11/09/2025 10:15

I don't know what I was thinking even telling him anything that I was doing. I guess I just wanted a bit of support. But as a good friend from MN told me - I shouldn't feed him anything. But I don't understand why he needs to put me down. I championed him and everything he did, why the need? I just don't get it.

Thanks for saying he's a nasty piece of work, it does help because the thought remains that he only did this to me because I was obvious in my love for him and he used words like 'freak me out' all the time. He's in his fifties ffs. I know in my heart no one will ever care as deeply for him. Good luck finding what I felt for him.

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Itsalittlewetout · 11/09/2025 10:25

YourBrickTiger · 11/09/2025 10:15

I don't know what I was thinking even telling him anything that I was doing. I guess I just wanted a bit of support. But as a good friend from MN told me - I shouldn't feed him anything. But I don't understand why he needs to put me down. I championed him and everything he did, why the need? I just don't get it.

Thanks for saying he's a nasty piece of work, it does help because the thought remains that he only did this to me because I was obvious in my love for him and he used words like 'freak me out' all the time. He's in his fifties ffs. I know in my heart no one will ever care as deeply for him. Good luck finding what I felt for him.

You aren’t thinking about this in the right way. You didn’t love him in a super special way, you simply loved him. He will find others who love him with no problem as he has in the past. The problem is he can’t love them in return, he uses them. We aren’t special, we can’t think we are enough, we are the perfect medicine, we would have been enough if only. They can’t love.

Itsalittlewetout · 11/09/2025 10:34

He doesn’t give a rats arse about finding love. The success of relationship was that you accepted terrible behaviour from him and he got away with it and he revels in this. He revels in his control, he knows what he is doing and he is laughing. He is laughing now in the pain he has caused you. He will find plenty of other women to treat like this.

YourBrickTiger · 11/09/2025 10:41

Itsalittlewetout · 11/09/2025 10:25

You aren’t thinking about this in the right way. You didn’t love him in a super special way, you simply loved him. He will find others who love him with no problem as he has in the past. The problem is he can’t love them in return, he uses them. We aren’t special, we can’t think we are enough, we are the perfect medicine, we would have been enough if only. They can’t love.

I did. I stuck by him through things most people would (and have) left for. I loved him to his very bones. And I have done for years. No one else has stuck around.

And again, if he's loveable - to me this equates that he isn't the problem. For years he has been saying I'd be the only perfect wife but he also said 'I would let her down'. I should have known then. I just didn't think he would let me down. So I hung in there. How can you be so sure he can't love??? I'm actually terrified now. But all I have ever heard is 'I didn't love her' about so many other women. It's his get out. Which has made me feel 'she wasn't picture perfect so I couldn't love her'. Give me picture perfect and I will love her. What the hell is he looking for?!

The only time he really speaks to me now is with his head down staring at his phone. OR when another man starts to talk to me.

This is such a mess. I can't go on like this I just can't. Imaginary Gym Bunny with perfect body is tormenting me. I wasn't enough to stay for or even to try for. I'm sorry I'm being so repetitive now.

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YourBrickTiger · 11/09/2025 10:41

Itsalittlewetout · 11/09/2025 10:34

He doesn’t give a rats arse about finding love. The success of relationship was that you accepted terrible behaviour from him and he got away with it and he revels in this. He revels in his control, he knows what he is doing and he is laughing. He is laughing now in the pain he has caused you. He will find plenty of other women to treat like this.

AGAIN if he's THAT bad, why plenty of women?! Sorry I DON'T GET IT!!!!!

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Itsalittlewetout · 11/09/2025 10:42

YourBrickTiger · 11/09/2025 10:41

AGAIN if he's THAT bad, why plenty of women?! Sorry I DON'T GET IT!!!!!

Because of the very word “plenty”, he hasn’t manage to keep one successful relationship in his life ever. With women, with kids, all his intimate relationships fail!

Itsalittlewetout · 11/09/2025 10:51

Your love wasn’t special, your lack of self esteem and boundaries just kept you going back. This is what you need therapy for. To go through the relationship with someone who can help you point out the areas in your behaviour where things have gone wrong. Therapy is for you, you can’t change the other person. You missed massive red flags and awful behaviour; this is what you need to work on.

YourBrickTiger · 11/09/2025 10:52

Itsalittlewetout · 11/09/2025 10:42

Because of the very word “plenty”, he hasn’t manage to keep one successful relationship in his life ever. With women, with kids, all his intimate relationships fail!

I don't think I have told anyone this but during the meeting, in front of my boss he said to me,

'I don't love you and I don't see that changing'.

I had had my feelings for years, but I know in most normal circumstances it can take a while to grow and develop. I know a girl who wasn't at all sure of her now husband when they met. They are now really happy and have 2 kids.

He seems to expect the love feeling straight away. But does the fact that he said this to me mean he is a normal guy who just didn't feel it?

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Itsalittlewetout · 11/09/2025 10:53

YourBrickTiger · 11/09/2025 10:52

I don't think I have told anyone this but during the meeting, in front of my boss he said to me,

'I don't love you and I don't see that changing'.

I had had my feelings for years, but I know in most normal circumstances it can take a while to grow and develop. I know a girl who wasn't at all sure of her now husband when they met. They are now really happy and have 2 kids.

He seems to expect the love feeling straight away. But does the fact that he said this to me mean he is a normal guy who just didn't feel it?

He isn’t capable of love, ever. He isn’t a complete human.

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