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Argh! DD caught me with FWB in the house

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Lionesseses · 09/06/2025 14:08

Long story short, my DD(15) came home unexpectedly from school earlier, and arrived home to find me in the house with my ‘friend’. She knows him vaguely as he’s the dad of a school friend of hers (we’re both single parents, and that’s how we met originally).

She didn’t catch us at it, thank God. But we were both upstairs (we had just had sex, and had got dressed again). I was all easy breezy about it saying ‘Oh, Andy is here! We weren’t expecting you home!’ But I was embarrassed and massively thankful she hadn’t been ten minutes earlier!

Then he left and she was asking why he was here, are we seeing each other etc. She doesn’t know that we’ve had this arrangement for a couple of years now, completely physical, friendly on the rare occasions we see each other otherwise but with no intention of becoming a proper couple.

I don’t want to explain our relationship to her because it’s not really her business and it’s not the kind of concept I’d want her thinking of (especially not in the context of me!). Am I right to do that…?

And I worry it might have spoiled things now cos my DD will tell her mate, and it might lead to embarrassment all round. Argh! Annoying.

Any thoughts? I guess I’m hoping it blows over.

OP posts:
Praying4Peace · 10/06/2025 21:12

Sunholidays · 10/06/2025 20:54

I don't get why everybody is so keen on keeping the truth from her daughter. Then keep it v quiet in future. Be even more careful. Because she doesn't need to deal with thinking about that private aspect of your life
Why? The DD is old enough to be having sex herself. She will know what this is about and understand it. I'm sure she does not expect her mum to be celibate forever.

Very worrying

SouthLondonMum22 · 10/06/2025 21:12

Praying4Peace · 10/06/2025 21:12

Very worrying

What's worrying?

Cherrytree86 · 10/06/2025 21:17

WigglywagglyWanda · 10/06/2025 20:23

The lovely lady you upset last night wouldnt agree with you. So I tend to think it's a bit of a hobby with you.

Why not try some boshing in the living room.....might make you stop repeating yourself over and over like a polly parrot

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@WigglywagglyWanda

what you on about?? What “lovely lady” did she upset ??

Cherrytree86 · 10/06/2025 21:20

SquashedMallow · 10/06/2025 21:03

It's not great that threads are being deleted for expressing opinions on the other side of the fence. Just to make very clear , I would never label a woman a "wank bucket" - I think my post was misinterpreted. But I do believe men do see women in this derogatory kind of way when they are willing to have ONS/casual sex with them. I really don't think that's changed. I wouldn't like young girls thinking that it's "empowering" to treat sex very casually, only to find out the reality of how they then are likely to be viewed by the men they're casually having sex with. You've got to have pretty damn robust mental health and tip top self esteem to be able to shake that off. From my experience, and of course there will be exceptions to this, a lot of the time the women engaging in sex casually or with multiple partners outside of relationships, haven't usually got great self esteem or are using sex to feel "worthy". I can't help but feel the encouragement and endorsement of it does need the counter balance of different opinions.

To call names such as "pearl clutcher" "uptight" and even worse labelling catholics as "paedophile sympathisers" is not respectful and only encourages hostility back.

If women want to engage in FWB / ONS "fuck buddies" that is their perogative, but there is a new attitude of almost encouraging this , which can lead to young girls feeling it's the "cool thing to do " and gives developing minds of young boys a potentially dangerous and objectifying view of women. the fact OPs daughter nearly caught her having casual sex with her friends dad is going to raise discomfort and some challenging conversations for both her and her daughter.

@SquashedMallow

the thing is - and I think this may blow your mind - some women simply do not care what men think of them.

Cherrytree86 · 10/06/2025 21:21

Praying4Peace · 10/06/2025 20:53

No. Just stating their opinions

@Praying4Peace

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SquashedMallow · 10/06/2025 21:21

Notonthestairs · 10/06/2025 21:11

Threads aren't being deleted.
Commentary such as referring to the Op as a wank bucket absolutely should be.

There is no excuse for referring to the Op in the most misognistic terms and says far more about you than it does about the Op.

I didn't refer to the op as a wank bucket. I suggested that unfortunately that's how men in these arrangements often view women.

SquashedMallow · 10/06/2025 21:22

Cherrytree86 · 10/06/2025 21:20

@SquashedMallow

the thing is - and I think this may blow your mind - some women simply do not care what men think of them.

That's fine for a grown woman. But not so fine for a developing young girls mind. Because what we do sends messages to our children.

Cherrytree86 · 10/06/2025 21:23

SquashedMallow · 10/06/2025 21:22

That's fine for a grown woman. But not so fine for a developing young girls mind. Because what we do sends messages to our children.

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@SquashedMallow

the daughter doesn’t need to know, it’s none of her business. Problem solved.

Sunholidays · 10/06/2025 21:27

SouthLondonMum22 · 10/06/2025 21:06

There's no need to tell her. Teenagers aren't entitled to know about their parents sex life.

I'm baffled that some people think otherwise.

I disagree. A mother lying to her DD about a relationship she has, is not ideal.

All explanations need to be age appropriate. As the DD is 15, she can handle the truth. Obvs. there is no need to go into detail but lying is not on IMO.

SquashedMallow · 10/06/2025 21:27

Cherrytree86 · 10/06/2025 21:23

@SquashedMallow

the daughter doesn’t need to know, it’s none of her business. Problem solved.

But it's not just about the OPs daughter is it ? This attitude towards sex is being promoted it seems on here, and this will obviously then filter down to the next generations. I think it'd a little naive to not see that's problematic.

WigglywagglyWanda · 10/06/2025 21:27

SquashedMallow · 10/06/2025 21:22

That's fine for a grown woman. But not so fine for a developing young girls mind. Because what we do sends messages to our children.

Edited

Not if it's kept discrete as op did. All the angst and she didn't actually see anything.

ZippyBrick · 10/06/2025 21:29

TigerMum8 · 10/06/2025 20:04

It’s not pearl clutching. Bringing some random mucky dad into the house when teenagers are milling about is just not done.

Who said he's mucky and random? She's known him 12 years and has been in this situation with him for 4.

I'd presume he's not mucky, if she's hanging around.

You must have many suppressed feelings in life. I feel for you.

Sunholidays · 10/06/2025 21:29

There is nothing wrong about the OP's attitude and it is perfectly fine for her DD to be aware of it.

WigglywagglyWanda · 10/06/2025 21:30

SquashedMallow · 10/06/2025 21:27

But it's not just about the OPs daughter is it ? This attitude towards sex is being promoted it seems on here, and this will obviously then filter down to the next generations. I think it'd a little naive to not see that's problematic.

What attitude though? That 2 friends who trust each other and are having a bit of mutual comfort and know each other 12 years and in a relationship for 2? I see no harm there.

SwimSwamSwimSwam · 10/06/2025 21:30

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Ilovemychocolate · 10/06/2025 21:30

SquashedMallow · 10/06/2025 21:22

That's fine for a grown woman. But not so fine for a developing young girls mind. Because what we do sends messages to our children.

Edited

Listen luv…hate to break it to you…but using the term “wank bucket”, no matter in what context you meant it, renders ALL your well thought out, impassioned arguments completely null and void,
No woman with an ounce of intelligence would give credence to any of your thoughts on this subject after that delicate nugget of utter misogyny and outright filth.
You have lost whatever moral high ground you may have wished to inhabit.

BlackBeltInOrigami · 10/06/2025 21:31

2 adult single people having sex, I can’t believe the pearl clutching on here! Good on you OP. Nothing you are doing is grim or to be ashamed of. Carry on!

GerryPix · 10/06/2025 21:31

Sit down and explain that you've been seeing each other a little while but you're unsure if you'll be one partners
At 15, she should be due the respect you probably ask from her.
It's also unfair on her, she possibly thinks there's a possibility of a 'new dad' in him, she has to be aware that it's not a possibility
To ignore the situation is unfair on her
You'll one day expect her to answer truthfully about her possible partner

Cherrytree86 · 10/06/2025 21:32

SquashedMallow · 10/06/2025 21:27

But it's not just about the OPs daughter is it ? This attitude towards sex is being promoted it seems on here, and this will obviously then filter down to the next generations. I think it'd a little naive to not see that's problematic.

@SquashedMallow

so what if it does?? OP sounds happy, not saddled with some useless bloke but still getting her sexual needs met. So what if a more liberal attitude to sex is perpetuated? What’s the worst that could happen? The patriarchy die out??

Lionesseses · 10/06/2025 21:32

Number of men who have now randomly PMd me as a result of this thread?

Four.

Now that is grim.

OP posts:
Cherrytree86 · 10/06/2025 21:33

Lionesseses · 10/06/2025 21:32

Number of men who have now randomly PMd me as a result of this thread?

Four.

Now that is grim.

@Lionesseses

ewww.
what are they saying??

SquashedMallow · 10/06/2025 21:34

Cherrytree86 · 10/06/2025 21:32

@SquashedMallow

so what if it does?? OP sounds happy, not saddled with some useless bloke but still getting her sexual needs met. So what if a more liberal attitude to sex is perpetuated? What’s the worst that could happen? The patriarchy die out??

Check out the OPs unfortunate latest update...

I'd say that was more playing in the hands of the patriarchy..

crackofdoom · 10/06/2025 21:34

Lionesseses · 10/06/2025 21:32

Number of men who have now randomly PMd me as a result of this thread?

Four.

Now that is grim.

For real? Oh my word 😬. What, propositioning you?

SwimSwamSwimSwam · 10/06/2025 21:35

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WigglywagglyWanda · 10/06/2025 21:35

Isn't it more responsible to have a discrete relationship rather than to start a relationship which breaks up after 6 months then another?

Or embark on being madly in love with the guy from Until I Kill you, who abuses and the children are in the same house?

And yeh in whatever context wank bucket in tandem with a lot of other descriptions was low.

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