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Poetry gift from his colleague that he didn't tell me about

205 replies

poetryslam · 05/06/2025 11:22

I can't really discuss this with anyone in real life so trying here to see if I'm overreacting and get some advice on how to proceed. I have a new baby and a DD who is 2.5. DH and I have a happy marriage (I thought) if a little distracted with children at this moment in life. Both work demanding jobs though I am on mat leave.
I finished my book today and noticed a book of poetry on the shelf that I hadn't read. Love the poet so picked it up and a postcard fell out. It was from his favourite museum in Paris, and on the back had a note for his most recent birthday, stating that he had big changes ahead, and signed off by colleague with an x. I flipped through the book and a photo of them with another couple was holding a page - probably from a work trip dinner. The poem was about seizing the present moment (future and past are non existent, must seize the now).
I felt sick. It's not sexual or anything but it's somehow worse because it felt so intimate and he has never mentioned it.
I know they are friends and see each other for runs every once in a while. We have socialised with her and her husband before, though not since our eldest was born.
I took a photo, put it back on the shelf and I haven't mentioned it.
I feel sick, and can't eat. I am breastfeeding a newborn and trying to look after a toddler and can't stop thinking about it.
It's bad, right? I am tempted to snoop further but scared of what I'll find.

OP posts:
TheGrimSmile · 08/06/2025 12:25

Maybe I'm being naive here but I don't think there's anything in this at all. If he works with her they are probably friends. That is the kind of thing I would send to a friend and might write something similar/ put in a photo. Also, the fact that it's just there on the bookshelf... Personally, I would not be concerned about this.

Rapunzle · 08/06/2025 12:25

So sorry OP & concur with others that is unlikely to have been solely emotional & not physical. Not that that makes it any worse bcos the emotional part is harder to deal with. I think he’s minimising it though by saying as such. Sending you strength & sympathy.

TheGrimSmile · 08/06/2025 12:25

God, sorry, just seen your update. I was being naive. X

ThePoshUns · 08/06/2025 12:41

I’m sorry OP, what an arsehole. You deserve better.

Cos100 · 08/06/2025 12:46

Hope you're OK, OP. Take care of yourself x

Maray1967 · 08/06/2025 13:29

I’m sorry to read this, OP.

If he was mine, he’d be out - at least for a while. He does not get to demand anything. He goes not get to dictate how long it will take you to decide what is right for you.

Crucially, this should not be hidden from your immediate family. If your parents are supportive, tell them. I’d also insist he tells his.

You have every right to confront her as well. I’d message her from his phone. ‘DH’s wife here. Never contact my husband again.’

But I can be a confrontational person, and that’s admittedly not the most dignified response.

Whatever you decide to you, remember that you get to put yourself and your DC first. Quite frankly, he needs to suffer.

Rainytoday · 08/06/2025 13:33

Sorry to read that op.

I wouldn’t have liked the ‘friendship’ just based on what you said. Now with what he has admitted I think they are both disgusting.

Whatado · 08/06/2025 13:41

I'm so sorry. I'm not sure I would believe there hasn't been a physical element to it. Especially with the level of ownership and involvement he has allowed her to have to him and his life.

They have both betrayed you in a horrific way. For now focus on your physical needs and I know it can be scary telling people in real life especially if it isnt clear what you are going to do but the priority should be for immediate support for you. Especially having just recently had a baby.

As for her, I'm a confrontational type of person as well so I would 100% contact her and tell her she can tell her husband or I would. Affairs with people known to each other are a special type of deception and manipulation and I would absolutely have my say with her as well as your husband.

Gundogday · 08/06/2025 13:48

TheGrimSmile · 08/06/2025 12:25

Maybe I'm being naive here but I don't think there's anything in this at all. If he works with her they are probably friends. That is the kind of thing I would send to a friend and might write something similar/ put in a photo. Also, the fact that it's just there on the bookshelf... Personally, I would not be concerned about this.

Have you read the update?

OVienna · 08/06/2025 14:22

Classic example of if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a bloody duck.

OP - try to channel your inner 'ick' here. What a twat.

I remember you said she was married. I'd be so tempted to tell the husband.

OVienna · 08/06/2025 14:24

He's gone all weepy because he knows this is his last chance to try to pull the wool over your eyes..

Alittlemoreconversationplease · 08/06/2025 15:05

I’m so very sorry that you have been confronted with this op. It’s such a hurtful betrayal. And particularly shitty of a bloke during those very hard early child-rearing years when he should be invested in his family first and foremost, and acting as a solid back-up to you. He should be ashamed of himself.

It’s very callous behaviour on his part to have taken something precious between you and sullied it.

The issue now is one of trust. And how do you want to proceed?

I am afraid that I would now be asking very direct questions about those “occasional runs” they go on together. ( I’m sorry but you need to know if they have betrayed you physically too. ). What did they do on those runs? Swap haikus?

I think I would present this to him as his one and ONLY opportunity to restore some integrity to your relationship, by telling you the full truth now, and nothing but the truth, as he must know how painful it was to have been gaslit for all of this time?

(Obviously you are just saying that to get him to confess fully and you can decide independently what to do once you have the full picture.)

I’m not sure that I would whether I would want to stay with a man who behaved with so little inner moral strength though. He’s a weak toad. He’s kept this secret for a long time so you need to decide whether you can trust him again. Especially when you confronted him with it previously and he still chose to carry on.

Also, it’s a lot easier to confess and live with oneself if he can frame it as “only” an emotional affair in his own mind. I have my doubts I’m sorry to say.

Above all op, proceed with huge caution. Look after yourself. Gather support around you, Try to eat and drink properly. Keep strong in front of him. Get your ducks in a row in terms of bank accounts and financial papers. Be prepared for the worst. And be distant and cold with him. If he can move out for a while that would be good. Put a solid barrier there until you know what’s what and protect yourself because he is not who you thought he was. 💐

mumuseli · 08/06/2025 15:20

I‘m sorry to hear your update, OP.
What a horrible fool he’s been, and how disrespectful she has been.
Sending strength for whatever you need to do.
x

MissDoubleU · 08/06/2025 16:49

Leave him. This wouldn’t have stopped if you hadn’t caught him. Can you guarantee he never slept with her? kissed her? Even if he never speaks to her again he still hid it all these years. You deserve so much better than a man who would betray you like this

notatinydancer · 08/06/2025 16:57

MissDoubleU · 08/06/2025 16:49

Leave him. This wouldn’t have stopped if you hadn’t caught him. Can you guarantee he never slept with her? kissed her? Even if he never speaks to her again he still hid it all these years. You deserve so much better than a man who would betray you like this

Absolutely

Fernticket · 08/06/2025 17:12

TheGrimSmile · 08/06/2025 12:25

Maybe I'm being naive here but I don't think there's anything in this at all. If he works with her they are probably friends. That is the kind of thing I would send to a friend and might write something similar/ put in a photo. Also, the fact that it's just there on the bookshelf... Personally, I would not be concerned about this.

Read the whole thread, including and especially the OPs updates.

Notonthestairs · 08/06/2025 17:16

TheGrimSmile · 08/06/2025 12:25

God, sorry, just seen your update. I was being naive. X

The poster has already acknowledged the Op's update.

teenmaw · 08/06/2025 17:26

Aw op what a piece of shit he is. Fucking men! I swear they cannot control their emotions at all if it’s not affairs it’s abuse. Sorry this has happened to you, you deserve 100x better.

SpendingTooMuchTimeHere · 08/06/2025 17:46

OP I am so sorry, but not surprised, re: your update.
He travels for work with her & goes out on runs with her. I would definitely be questioning if it is actually a physical affair.
Men will admit to the minimum they can admit to.
It may be irrelevant if you are thinking of leaving anyway but I know of people who were told it was an emotional affair but it turned out later that the husband was lying and it was a physical affair.

CraftandGlamour · 08/06/2025 17:47

I'm so sorry, OP, I'm sure you're absolutely reeling right now. Take your time, deep breaths, it's time to prioritise your needs and you may need time to work that out. Sending you unmumsnetty hugs.

Incaseofouting · 08/06/2025 18:08

I wouldn’t be surprised if the whole big changes thing was they were looking to (or she was expecting/hoping) would end their marriages to be together.

sameshizz · 08/06/2025 18:11

Incaseofouting · 08/06/2025 18:08

I wouldn’t be surprised if the whole big changes thing was they were looking to (or she was expecting/hoping) would end their marriages to be together.

ewwwwww yeah. What a pair of devious callous arseholes . As if he just put it on the bookshelf for you to find, seems cruel after the update. You must be reeling op. So sorry this is happening .

Gundogday · 08/06/2025 18:47

Incaseofouting · 08/06/2025 18:08

I wouldn’t be surprised if the whole big changes thing was they were looking to (or she was expecting/hoping) would end their marriages to be together.

Yes, definantly puts a new spin on things. So not the new baby.

Lighteye · 08/06/2025 19:47

Sorry for what you’re going through but leave him you will never trust him again pathetic loser!

RedJamDoughnut · 08/06/2025 20:56

It dosent have to mean the end of your relationship if you both want to stay together. It will take years and it is hard work. Your old relationship is gone.
That said you can work together for something new that can be good And better in some ways.
If the affair partner has an other half I would make sure they know what was happening.