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Random Message DH Affair Part2

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basilbush · 01/06/2025 10:41

Hi all

Link to previous thread https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/relationships/5344952-random-message-saying-dh-affair?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=app_share

TLDR: I got a WhatsApp telling me DH (by name) was having an affair. The ‘proof’ was very suspect and I didn’t believe it. Went through it all with DH who denies it all and the messages turned to some insults.
We believed it was someone with malicious intent.

Im sorry I didn’t start a thread straight away-I didn’t want to start one and then not have the time to keep it up to date as yesterday was really busy. So some progress has been made:
-After being super certain the baby shower wasn’t put online I’ve discounted the woman from work. I’ve also found out that she’s moved back to her home country on the other side of the world so unlikely.
-I know people were unsure why I thought my college friend was the link. Essentially one of the insults I got sent was quite personal and about something I used to be quite insecure of when I was younger (not so much now) and college friend was aware of it.

I was still fairly certain it isn’t FROM her as I just can’t square that off but it seems to be too much of a coincidence that she was at the baby shower, has access to me online and knows about this thing.

We told PIL everything when they dropped kids off yesterday and DH said that he was supposedly with this woman that time I was at the baby shower-they completely backed him up that he was with them the whole time and couldn’t believe someone could be so vindictive. I felt bad we told them as they were quite upset about it all.

Back to college friend. We decided yesterday morning to follow Colleen’s lead and I posted a Facebook status viewable just to her along the lines of ‘absolutely devastated. Nearly 20 years only to be betrayed-anyone know a good solicitor?’ (Note, I would never normally share something so private!!).

We figured if it was her, I’d get a WhatsApp message mocking me or full of smugness. We could see she’d be been online lots through the day but we didn’t get anything from the number.

Then this morning I get a WhatsApp from her (using the number she used in the baby shower group) saying she’d seen my status, was so sorry and wondered if I was around for a catch up as she’s a bit worried about a few things and needs to talk to me.

Ive obviously tried to ask questions but she’s just asked if we could meet. We’ve got a few kids activities this morning but I’m meeting her at 2 for a drink and to see what she has to say.

Sorry, that was really long! And please don’t worry, this hasn’t completely taken over our weekend-we took kids to soft play party, had a nice bbq and this morning are going swimming. But I’m determined to find out what this is all about.

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Ottersmith · 01/06/2025 20:51

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Kreepture · 01/06/2025 20:51

PiggyPigalle · 01/06/2025 20:27

There already is. Go to the OP's original post and click "see all". All her posts will be there, without interruption.

i'm aware thanks.

but that isn't the same as all the OP's 30 or so posts being on a single thread, instead of having to be across 2 or more because everyone else is filling up a 1000 post thread with their crap.

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Kreepture · 01/06/2025 20:51

i'm aware thanks.

but that isn't the same as all the OP's 30 or so posts being on a single thread, instead of having to be across 2 or more because everyone else is filling up a 1000 post thread with their crap.

Meanwhile, you are talking about something completely unrelated to the OPs thread, on the OPs thread, helping to fill it up...

FloofyKat · 01/06/2025 20:56

The thing I don’t quite get is how CF made the bridge between OP posting on FB about needing a divorce solicitor and dodgy ‘your H is having an affair’ behaviour from EL?

bluesinthenight · 01/06/2025 20:58

FloofyKat · 01/06/2025 20:56

The thing I don’t quite get is how CF made the bridge between OP posting on FB about needing a divorce solicitor and dodgy ‘your H is having an affair’ behaviour from EL?

This is a good question. CF didn't know that the "divorce" post was a result of El's actions because she didn't know that El had taken any action.

Kreepture · 01/06/2025 21:00

FloofyKat · 01/06/2025 20:56

The thing I don’t quite get is how CF made the bridge between OP posting on FB about needing a divorce solicitor and dodgy ‘your H is having an affair’ behaviour from EL?

that's why i think CF hasn't been entirely honest with the OP.

but really, if you haven't spoken to someone in 20 years, have a bitch fest with your friend about that person, stop the convo because your friend is being a bit.. weird, then that person messages you out of the blue the next day, and posts what they did on FB.. wouldn't you suspect it might be to do with the weird convo about them with your friend the night before?

ExercicenformedeZ · 01/06/2025 21:03

I don't know why people find this story so unbelievable. It is perfectly believable to me. Anyway, could you give the trollhunting a rest, as it is against the forum rules.

AzurePanda · 01/06/2025 21:04

bluesinthenight · 01/06/2025 20:58

This is a good question. CF didn't know that the "divorce" post was a result of El's actions because she didn't know that El had taken any action.

Well yes, and if her instant response to a divorce announcement was that “omg El must have contacted op and made up some sort of cheating allegations” why on earth would she have left this nutter alone with her phone?

SunnyDelicious · 01/06/2025 21:06

OP just to say it's stories like yours that keep MN so great! A proper life-altering moment, one of the most personal things to deal with put on full view (it's compelling reading to see into someone's life like that), then a full on whodunit, and - wonderfully - a fully resolved, happy ending.

I'm so glad you kept trusting your husband, it's a pretty crazy thing to go through, what a rollercoaster!

Thanks so much for keeping us all updated. You can't win on mumsnet, but I've personally loved this story!

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Of course she's invested in it, someone tried to cause trouble in her marriage.

MsDitsy · 01/06/2025 21:09

basilbush · 01/06/2025 17:02

I’m so sorry everyone. I got home, briefly told my DH who’s response was ‘WTAF’, he went to the gym and my little one pretty much straight away wet himself all over the new sofa so have been knee deep in cleaning stuff. (If anyone has any hacks for getting urine out of fixed sofa cushions I’d be grateful!)

So I’m going to lay this out as it seems to have unfolded. My college friend is CF (not cheeky fucker in this instance) and the person behind it we’ll call El Hopkins as name is sort of important here.

CF met El at her last school (both teachers) c15 years ago. They became friends and although CF changed schools, they stayed in touch and meet every so often for a catch up. El and her husband have had fertility issues and have had several rounds of IVF. In the new year, her DH said he wanted to stop, that they were both in their 40s now and he wanted to focus on life without children. This has caused some upset and they have recently decided split due to this reason. Each time CF and El have met the conversation has been dominated by Els issues and she’s seemed more unreasonable and to use an mn phrase ‘unhinged’.

Right, back to how this ties in. Thursday they met for a dinner and El was talking about a wedding she was due to go to and couldn’t find anything to wear. CF told her to try love and roses as she’d got some lovely dressed from there-she then got up photos of baby shower to show her the dress she was wearing at it as an example. Guess who was in the background of these photos? Moi. Innocently stuffing my face with cake.

El then asked CF how she knew me-CF then spoke about college/uni etc. El asked if I was married and CF said yes and (she apologised for this) then got up my SM and let El scroll through showing photos of me and DH, our kids etc.

Through this I’m thinking-who the fuck is this person. I didn’t recognise the name or anything. So CF in turn then gets up her SM to show me and I flick through. El Hopkins is Lizzie Baker (both names made up) who is DHs ex girlfriend from 20+ years ago.

When I first met DH he had a girlfriend who he occasionally brought to work socials, Lizzie. They broke up as she wanted to get married and have kids and he, being only 25ish felt too young so they broke up. 6 months later we were put on a project together and the rest is history.

Apparently she went on some rampage about how I’d broken up their relationship (I didn’t!) and if she’d have stayed with him, she might have children by now and not be childless and alone forever (her words).

CF could see this going a bit crazy so called time on their evening. She left El with her phone while she went to the loo to have a gawp on me online so is suspect this is how she got my number.

She said when I messaged her Friday saying I had a bizarre question, she thought something may have come of her conversation with El as it was so out of the blue but then saw my post and just knew El had some something. Apparently when they worked together she got hung up on a colleague and borderline stalked him online so has form for this.

CF plugged the phone number in and it came up straight away with Els name so she didn’t even create a fake number or anything.

Phew, that was long and completely random!! I’m about to do dinner and when DH gets back we’re going to work out what to do about it. Clearly this lady is having an awful time of it but it’s really no excuse for how she has behaved!

Well the thing that doesn't sit right with me is your friend leaving her phone with El Crazy. Why the hell would you do that when someone is going on a rant about your another friend? I would leave my phone with 3 people in my life, dp, ds & ddil. No way would I leave my phone with a person going on a rant about a friend to go through her social media. Your friend cf sound more complicit than she is admitting. I feel for you and your husband, I'm so glad you got to the bottom of it. I've no advice for the urine issue but you could join a FB group call Secrets of a cleaning lady. They give some pretty good advice about stuff like this but like everything, you have to pick and choose what you do.

Othersideofworld · 01/06/2025 21:12

Thanks for the updates, what a ride! Glad you found the culprit and I’m glad you and your DH have worked through it and communicated so well. Please update on how you call EI out, even if not reported you need to let her know that you know. CF may beat you to it, but I want to know !!!!!

Othersideofworld · 01/06/2025 21:13

I think we are of the same age and I would leave my phone with a friend whilst I went to the bathroom.

CottonCandyLand · 01/06/2025 21:21

RominaDina · 01/06/2025 17:08

That's an interesting update. So this woman saw your image by chance and dug deeper. However, at that stage she didn't know who you were married to?
Did she just fixate on you straight away? Odd.

I would imagine she recognized OP from when she was dating OP's DH and attended work events where OP was also present.

DeSoleil · 01/06/2025 21:21

Before you think about being nice to her imagine if you had believed her and binned your husband or if you had told him and he had gone spare and accused you of not believing him. Your marriage could have been put in jeopardy and just because she has personal problems it was pure evil of her to target you in such a despicable manner.

I would reply with just writing her real name and an eyeroll emoji and then block.

YourSignalFadedIntoAnotherWorld · 01/06/2025 21:22

This needs to go to the police. Calling you a slut and lying about your marriage falls under the remit of malicious communications and she has done it before.

Without curbing her, she may cause untold issues for you, stuff you may not even know she is responsible for.

Failing that, a solicitors letter setting out what you know and how you know it so she is aware that she has had her last chance.

Teado · 01/06/2025 21:23

I don’t know why some people are finding this story unbelievable. I know several people who’ve undergone IVF unsuccessfully, several who’ve been dumped by their university partner in their mid-twenties, several who’ve been suspicious of their partner’s work colleague. Loads of threads on the Relationshipa board about all these things. It’s quite mundane, everyday stuff.

And friendship/acquaintance groups do overlap, we’ve all had one of those, “how do you know Jane?? Small world!” conversations.

Sadly, sometimes people’s mental health plummets when they’ve been through a lot and then they behave poorly. Not unusual.

I reckon a message along the lines of “hi El, I remember you from social events at [company]. We’ll take the matter of your malicious communications no further because of what you’ve been through recently but you should not contact us again. Best wishes”.

And leave it there.

Courgettezuchinni · 01/06/2025 21:28

Glad you got to the bottom of it OP. Is CF likely to give El the heads up that you know?

I'd send a message to El using her real name and tell her to stop any contact with you or your DH otherwise you'll report her to the police and that will of course impact her work.

MumblingsOnMumsN · 01/06/2025 21:29

Othersideofworld · 01/06/2025 21:13

I think we are of the same age and I would leave my phone with a friend whilst I went to the bathroom.

Most women put them in their handbag.
Thing is, phones have passwords so someone looking after it for you isn't going to see anything anyway. Unless you give it to them when you're logged in and it doesn't time out.

WearyAuldWumman · 01/06/2025 21:34

SuperSue77 · 01/06/2025 20:28

The whole thread makes sense to me. My DH had been married before, and he warned me that there could be a call from the ex if she found out he had remarried - however, they'd been divorced over a decade before he met me and there has never been any contact at all since I came on the scene, thank goodness. He still worries about going to the town where she lives in case he bumped into her - I've told him he shouldn't worry, I doubt she would do or say anything, but she was a bit volatile, and I think he worried something like this could happen. (I'm another who has 100% trust in her DH).

Same. I had weird behaviour from my husband's ex. She was quite happy to be with her affair partner (for two years) until she discovered that DH had started to see me.

Suddenly, she wanted him back. At that point, the former family home was in her name, via a mortgage buy-out and he had a mortgage on his own place. Her 'offer' was that he could sell his house and move back into the house which was now in her sole name...

She tried to gatecrash our honeymoon.

Deebee90 · 01/06/2025 21:38

Woah . Well that wasn’t the ending I expected but it’s the ending im glad you got. At one point I did think he cheated. As regards to the person I can see why she did it. She obviously doesn’t know your struggles and with her fertility dwindling she was bound to go down the whole if only that was my life route. You didn’t deserve what’s she done though. For example I’ve been left most likely infertile because of chemo and seeing my ex’s have family’s on social media stings like hell as I wish it was me , I just wouldn’t do what she’s done there’s a difference.

now it the time for a fresh start. Maybe change your number and carry on with your life. I also hope whatever illness you have or had is gone and you are healthy.

NaeRolls · 01/06/2025 21:41

Scarfitwere · 01/06/2025 18:16

I'm guessing she's stalked op's husband online before and seen OP in a pic and so recognised her in the friends pic.

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But if that was the case, then she would already have known that they were married. So then it doesn't make sense that she only realised they were married when CF showed her OP's social media profile?

Matronic6 · 01/06/2025 21:48

NaeRolls · 01/06/2025 21:41

But if that was the case, then she would already have known that they were married. So then it doesn't make sense that she only realised they were married when CF showed her OP's social media profile?

It does make sense. They stopped working together and clearly didn't keep in touch.

Thatcat · 01/06/2025 21:48

This was great @basilbush
well done.