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So he's just left me

176 replies

YesThatsATurdOnTheRug · 30/05/2025 23:21

Had an affair a year ago, I wanted to try, we have kids and I love him. He was desperate to try again. Now he says he can't live a lie any longer and it's over. I just invested all my inheritance in a big extension, just finished the kids new bedrooms, they are going to be so so destroyed. Can only seem to think of practical things, numb, hot, cold, shaking, don't even know where to start. Already texted my old boss for my job back but that's highly unlikely. I'm such an idiot, we decided I'd be a SAHM so now I'm just absolutely fucked, will spend my life in a two bed semi while he jets off round the globe with the latest pretty young thing (there is another one of course). I actually cannot believe this is my life!

OP posts:
Hellofreshh · 31/05/2025 08:50

How old are your children? Look into child maintenance online if your DH earns well you should get a fair amount.

KidsDoBetter · 31/05/2025 08:53

@YesThatsATurdOnTheRug - drop me a PM - ex City lawyer, divorced, have some contacts that may help you.

LBFseBrom · 31/05/2025 09:02

I am so, so sorry. You will recover from this, you really will, and move on. You'll get a job.

Sort out finances now, see a solicitor.

TeeBee · 31/05/2025 09:06

I’m so sorry OP. However, the children will be okay. Affected yes, but fine. They will be.
And of course you will have a pension, you will have half of his! Give yourself a day or two for utter full-on crying and grieving (really lean into it and purge yourself) then get your fury on and strip him of everything you can. Those children need you to secure them as comfortable a future as you can fight for.

Goingforatwix · 31/05/2025 09:12

When you're ready to get back on track professionally - look at the Government Legal Department via Civil Service job search - Civil Service Jobs - GOV.UK which has roles across the country.

It's family-friendly and the CS is good for career-returners. You can use it as a stepping-stone to something else.

Really, really feel for you xxx

Quick Check Needed

https://www.civilservicejobs.service.gov.uk/csr/index.cgi

GabriellaMontez · 31/05/2025 09:25

Child benefit.
Universal credit. (Pretty sure you can do this whilst living together but separate. They are very helpful)

You need a lawyer to make sure you get more than 50% of the equity. And to plan for the best way to manage the capital you think he's expecting.

Everything else... sit back. Don't make it easy. Let him market the house. Make arrangements.

Use this time to look at property. Move to the spare room. Look at jobs.

EdithBond · 31/05/2025 09:25

What a shit. Another affair! Clearly doesn’t care about his kids.

I agree, string it out in the house for as long as possible. No rush. But try to get some one-off advice asap. Do you think he’d agree to full custody and letting you keep the house in lieu of maintenance? Would give him a clean break if he wants to go off with OW. If you got a job, could you afford that?

Is there anyone who could help you buy him out of the house if it came to that? A relative willing to invest for, say 10 years, who’d then get a percentage return if you sold once kids turned 18. Who knows how your life may have changed by then. You could have a brilliant job or new partner.

Start looking for a job you’ll enjoy. So hard, but try to believe you can hang onto your home and earn enough to pay for it.

Theroadt · 31/05/2025 09:29

Everyone decides to parent their own way. I have been bith a working mother, a SAHM, and a sole breadwinner. I get hesrtily fed uo with anti-SAHM comments on MN. OP was bringing up his kids, contributing massively to house renovations; he took all of that on trust he’d do his bit - which he hasn’t. I hope she gets a good lawyer and screws him, frankly.

Surgz · 31/05/2025 09:32

Been there without the affair or inheritance but my reaction was the same. You will sort it. You will find a job that suits and be forever proud of what you achieve. You will meet someone else and think of him as the sad fuckwit he is whilst remaining dignified in all parenting aspects. I hope ..😘

Limehawkmoth · 31/05/2025 09:38

YesThatsATurdOnTheRug · 31/05/2025 00:59

Thanks @WilfredsPies , we are very cash poor at the moment so paying for a lawyer will be hard. I barely scrape to the end of the month to be honest. He'll be promoted in a couple of years, very well timed really to get me out of the way before his wages fly up! He has capital coming in around September too, though he'll be able to delay that I'm sure to keep it out of the reckoning. I have no pension!! I need a job asap that's the priority, he's not going to like his half of the school runs! I have no chance of keeping the house have I.

Head to the divorce board. At the top in MN blurb is link to ADVICE NOW

go onto site and download their guides to DIY divorce process….they fantastic and will tell you what you do NOT need a lawyer for, what you might, and where you DO need one.

they explain the processes- you absolutely don’t need a solicitor to do the legal divorce itself. Any solicitor that tells you they will do it, is a scam. Law changed in 2022 to make it very simple for anyone to do..in about 30 mins or less. advice Now also (used to) has links to solicitors who will do specific tasks yourselves need- over phone etc at very good rates.

ADVICE NOW then have guides for getting your financial settlement done. They describe the really important bit around the law on “fair settlement”. It is crucial you understand this. The 7 or so criteria that must be met (where applicable) for the courts to seal the financial settlement. You do NOTneed a solicitor to understand which apply. Read up in these guides, read agian and then determine what that will likely mean for you and stbex. It does NOT start with 50:50 contrary to what is touted on MN all the time. Court like it if it ends up that way, but it is often not possible where “fair settllement” and limited assets come into play. Understand settlement is based ONLY on future needs, not past behaviour. (What was deemed by law lords colloquially as “shared misery”). You will both be worse off. In most cases arguing about it with solicitors will cost you £1000s, and make little significant different to outcome of what you walk away with financially as you’ll loose money in legal bills. Yes, you need solicitor for some very spepcifc tasks but at £200+ an hour, don’t STARTat solicitors. Yep you get a “free” 30 mins but this is mainly very basic stuff you can read on advice now, and then a sales pitch. Do your homework first, then go to solicitor with specifics around questions youhave and what exactly are tasks you want them to do vs you can do yourselves. That way you’ll make the most of your free 30 mins!

do not agree to any financial settlements informally until both of you have completed you full legal fiancnail disclosure. This is common mistake. Arguing about who has what before you’ve legally stated what you both have. Get forms E and D81 completed and signed first . Then enter negotiations around “fair settlement”. Again Guides will walk you through this. But ALL assets including pensions are listed, refuse to engage in any discussion on divorce until you’ve done this…otherwsoe this is stage that some couples drag out for years as the wealthier individual doesn’t want to fully declare. If he wants out the marriage, you have leveredge here to say you won’t discuss anything until he and you completes the forms E and D81 with evidence.

guides also cover child custody arrangements.

imho you should also ensure your stbex has copy of guides as well, and reads them. That way he’ll also understand lengthy legal processes will only cost you shed loads of money, increased stress, and a much much longer process. If you can both park anger and other emotions you can get this legal stuff sorted mostly yourselves at lower cost in majorities of cases.

where you need expert help is where there are massive excess assets (arguing about those second homes🙄, or diamonds) or where someone is potentially lying on their legal financial declaration ( this is a crime btw, but doesn’t stop some people trying to hide wealth), or your spouse is abusive. and in the case where assets are tied to business - that can get quite complicated.

in 2021 my (abusive) ex and I divorced using these guides. Cost less than £1400 as only used solicitor for 2 specific tasks. Also did the whole thing form petition to final decree in Less than 4 months- as you could back then for where there were quickie reasons. You can’t do that now - min of 26 weeks. no reasons for divorce given other than one or both parties say marriage broken down irreparably. We achieved that by me sharing the guides with him, us walking through process and “fair settlment” laws and what they meant. Sure we argued, but I was able to negotiate my way to settllement without protracted nasty abusive behaviour and get out of marriage quickly for my own safeguarding.

please do have confidence you can do a lot of tasks yourselves. The legal processes has recently been simplified to try to do this.

also you may find it help to look at “grief pathway”. You will probably be grieving for your marriage. This pathway describes the stages you may cycle through and why you feel the way you do. It basically follows any sort of change process- this is a massive sudden change and will result in a lot of feelings of fear etc. knowledge is a massive help to eliminate fear - fear is the unknown.

Todayisaday · 31/05/2025 09:41

YesThatsATurdOnTheRug · 31/05/2025 01:40

Not at all @WilfredsPies, it's bloody nice to feel buoyed up right now, thank you.

OP lots of consultancies have back to work after a gap programs that I imagine you'd do really well at eith a background in law. Don't write yourself off.
First things first is getting yourself independant financially, start putting your cv together and reaching out to recruiters. Its a numbers game out there at the moment, so don't be dispindant about not hearing back after a few applications, send off to many. Get your linked in profile in order, upskill if you can with some free online or cheap training on some topical stuff.
Focus your energies into the practical stuff you can do now. Every second you think about him is wasted now.
Right now you can start from today, what can you do from today to build the life you want.

LemonGelato · 31/05/2025 09:43

Goingforatwix · 31/05/2025 09:12

When you're ready to get back on track professionally - look at the Government Legal Department via Civil Service job search - Civil Service Jobs - GOV.UK which has roles across the country.

It's family-friendly and the CS is good for career-returners. You can use it as a stepping-stone to something else.

Really, really feel for you xxx

Yes to this OP, and to Local authorities and Housing associations who always need in house lawyers. The pay may be lower than private practice (though its not bad - many have market supplements to attract good candidates). But the hours are better, the pension is good and there is flexible working. Lots of industries need good in house lawyers.Plus many public sector employer are excellent at supporting career moves and retraining.

As for the divorce, you really really need to find a way to pay for good legal advice. Spousal support is rare in the UK but it might be possible. You may also be able to get a Mesher order for you to stay in the family home (delaying sale and split of assets), at least until you can get on your feet again with a job & income. Maybe your family would loan you the money until all the finances are sorted?

I've been there and the emotional pain is real but you need to get tough and fight for what you need to give the kids stability and financial security.

EdithBond · 31/05/2025 09:50

Theroadt · 31/05/2025 09:29

Everyone decides to parent their own way. I have been bith a working mother, a SAHM, and a sole breadwinner. I get hesrtily fed uo with anti-SAHM comments on MN. OP was bringing up his kids, contributing massively to house renovations; he took all of that on trust he’d do his bit - which he hasn’t. I hope she gets a good lawyer and screws him, frankly.

I agree. I’ve worked my whole life. 3 DC. Demanding job. Adore being a mum.

Because my mum had a great career ahead of her but became a SAHM with great encouragement from my father. He then left her, facing the loss of our home and to keep it she had to take a job on her feet all day and seriously struggled financially ever since, even in retirement. No holidays. Though she’s still in our home. I’ve never trusted a man since. They tell you all sorts of shit. They even believe it at the time.

So, I’d never lose my financial independence. But I’d never criticise a woman who did. We should be able to trust the father of our children. So sad this happens so often. IMHO, sex equality ends when women become mothers because they’ll always put their kids first and it leaves them financially vulnerable. Some men are quite happy for a SAHM to see to the kids when they’re young and demanding. Then they chase after the opposite: an independent career woman.

Startrekobsessed · 31/05/2025 09:55

DonewhatIcando · 31/05/2025 05:51

@YesThatsATurdOnTheRug
I feel for you 💔
I hate to give you a taste of reality and worry you even more but you need a solicitor.
Dsis was in court this week for her final financial hearing, she represented herself and got completely shafted.
Exh, own business bought with money from marriage, hides how much he actually makes, dsis living on benefits due to a disabled dc.
A straight split of the family home, no consideration made for disabled dc, no consideration made for dsis having lost her job due to looking after dc, exh doesnt see dc apart from a couple of times a year, birthday and Christmas.
Exh keeps his business, no consideration that my dsis technically paid for half of said business.
No consideration that my dsis took on all the outstanding family debt as the exh wouldn't, this has financially crippled dsis.
Dsis pays the mortgage and has done since he left 5 yrs ago (affair with a younger woman 🙄)
It was dsis house originally, she bought years before she even met exh.
No consideration that exh lives with new fiance and holidays in US.
His barrister called dsis some terrible names, painted her as a black hearted, money grabbing harridan.
I was there as her makenzie friend, it was so shocking that I was actually shaking and I'm no wallflower.
The equal split of the house means dsis and dc face homelessness, it's not enough to buy a one bed flat and dsis can't get a mortgage due to the family debt and not working.
So, you need to prepare for the worse, you won't be disappointed.
Act now, do whatever you can to protect yourself, get a job, get back into your original career if you can, one of the thing thrown at dc was that she "wasn't maximising her earning potential "
One thing I would advise is to get tough, your H is now your enemy, treat him as such.
He doesn't care about you, he doesn't want the best for you, his concern will now be for himself, forget about love, don't ever think "he wouldn't do XYZ to me" he will.
❤️

This is absolutely disgusting and I’m appalled that a judge has ruled in this way. What a disgusting human he is for pursuing a split which could leave his disabled DC homeless. I’m so sorry for your sister and niece/newphew, I hope life comes good for them both 💐

AgentJohnson · 31/05/2025 09:56

Yes you’ve made some unwise decisions fuelled by fear but you are far from fucked.

Your kids will be ok but your visions of your future will have to change. You will need legal and financial advice ASAP and rel life support. You have not failed or embarrassed yourself, you have lived and you will learn.

EdithBond · 31/05/2025 10:06

@Limehawkmoth that’s inspirational and incredibly helpful ❤️

myrtle70 · 31/05/2025 10:07

Get a diy divorce book, look at advicenow guide and wikivorce. Also at the judicial guidelines for financial remedies and pensions. The info on how a split will be considered is all available for free and you will be able to get a good picture even if you use a lawyer at specific points for reassurance.

My hunch is it’s better to sort finances quickly while mixing the inheritance is recent. It’s more likely to be ringfenced if he hasn’t lived in the property long after the extension was built.

you need to be able to pay mortgage yourself to have any chance keeping the home and also money to buy him out unless there are other assets to offset.

You don’t have go back into law lots public sector caseworker / complaint jobs like lawyers and have good pensions and flexible working and still ok salaries

Use Entitledto benefits calculator as you may be able claim UC while separated as well as CMS. You could also consider a lodger if you have extra space to help pay mortgage.

Be pragmatic about the house the main focus is getting a good % settlement so you can both start over. it’s not always worth giving up a pension share just to stay in a big house. I know it’s your dream and you’ve just finished it but a big house is going to be expensive to run and time consuming. I stayed in the house for the dc and struggled to do maintenance etc as a single working parent. I really hate the house now its been a massive drain and I will be happy to move to something smaller when dc don’t need to be in this location.

If you both complete form E or at least collect and exchange that info then you can get legal advice then. There is little point paying for legal advice before you have this info - a lawyer will just be able to give generic advice you can find out yourself.

Work through form E info for each of you and you will have a clearer picture. Your starting point should be the inheritance is not in the pot as it’s recent and look at what would be a fair settlement ignoring this. If it goes to court then everything will be in the pot if he claims a need but there have been cases ignoring recent inheritance and also unequal splits to take large capital contributions into account. His mortgage capacity, pension, savings, investments etc all relevant. Also whether he needs to house the dc on a similar basis to you.

Sassybooklover · 31/05/2025 10:12

Use whatever contacts you may still have in the legal world for help. You may not have enjoyed being a lawyer, but right now, that's where your skills lay and experience. How easy would it be to go back into? Others are correct, it's not just private practice you could go into - council, housing association, various corporate businesses etc. Would you need any kind of 'refresher' training? If so look into this. You are married, and this gives you at least legal protection. You need to lawyer up though, don't represent yourself (even if you would probably do better than most of us) because you need to give yourself the very best outcome. Don't focus on your husband and how awful he is, the timing etc - there's time to mull that over in the future. Now you need to channel that inner lawyer, and unleash it onto the bastard!! He's underestimated you, blindsided you and now it's time to let him see how ruthless you can be!! Channel the anger, not the 'I want to cut all his clothes up' anger, but that cool anger!

YesThatsATurdOnTheRug · 31/05/2025 10:12

Guavafish1 · 31/05/2025 08:47

were you sleeping with him?

Edited

Sadly I was.

So much helpful advice everyone, thank you so much, I will check out the civil service and in house jobs. Anywhere will be a good start I can always work up.

The extension will definitely have increased the value. I'm just so sorry for my kids, they're so so proud and happy in their new rooms. I'll definitely try and hold on as long as I can.

OP posts:
AnotherNaCha · 31/05/2025 10:14

YesThatsATurdOnTheRug · 31/05/2025 00:59

Thanks @WilfredsPies , we are very cash poor at the moment so paying for a lawyer will be hard. I barely scrape to the end of the month to be honest. He'll be promoted in a couple of years, very well timed really to get me out of the way before his wages fly up! He has capital coming in around September too, though he'll be able to delay that I'm sure to keep it out of the reckoning. I have no pension!! I need a job asap that's the priority, he's not going to like his half of the school runs! I have no chance of keeping the house have I.

You’ll get half his pension and a good amount of child benefit and at least half of whatever investment is in the house, esp as you paid for the extension. So sorry you’re going through this, but work in your mindset that you are not screwed. He is

AnonWho23 · 31/05/2025 10:17

YesThatsATurdOnTheRug · 31/05/2025 01:11

thanks @JudgeBread, the extension had been planned for so long, I was so looking forward to it, I let my judgment be swayed by the nice choice, I think that's a problem of mine! I can't afford a shit hot lawyer sadly, I know it would come out of the pot eventually but I have zero savings left after the extension! It's my own fault, he waved a few red flags early days but he's such a good talker. I was so excited and carried away with the dream.

Get a credit card. Get a loan. Do whatever you can to source money.

NZDreaming · 31/05/2025 10:21

@YesThatsATurdOnTheRug I’ve not been in your situation but heard on a podcast about this organisation that might be of help. They offer affordable legal advice (with payment plans) as well as tools for navigating various aspects of separation/divorce including child residency. Set up and run by women with lived experience
https://www.separatespace.co.uk/

SeparateSpace

SeparateSpace. A faster, cheaper etc

https://www.separatespace.co.uk

Kalithoscope · 31/05/2025 10:22

@Devianinc gave up her power 😂I use my power to care for my own kids and not farm them out to underpaid nursery staff.

Shitty, ignorant statement? So was yours.

JLou08 · 31/05/2025 10:23

Devianinc · 31/05/2025 01:31

I have to ask you why you gave away your power if you were a lawyer. It doesn’t make sense. Years of law school and test and you just gave that up. I might be mad if I had married you as money making lawyer who decided not to work anymore. Was that a mutual decision. Seems a very weird decision to make

Seems a weird decision to you but people have different priorities and values.

AnonWho23 · 31/05/2025 10:25

You are an educated woman. You are not fucked. You can get a well paying job. Although, you might need to brush up and get up to speed on any changes. We all do shit we hate but at least you have earning potential. I wouldn't do anything workwise for now. I'd see if there's any learning you can do so you go nack into the workplace without gaps in your knowledge. I'd beg and borrow to ger a shit hot solicitor and let them advise you. They might tell you not to work because he'll need to give you more. Also the ids will need your support because they will be unsettled. Get the advice first.

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