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Has anyone been 'dropped' by someone you thought to be a good friend for no reason you can discern?

165 replies

badsmell · 18/05/2008 22:11

This has happened to me twice in the last couple of years since the birth of my first baby. Whilst normally this might upset me a little bit and then I would move on just lately I have spent more time than is healthy dwelling and speculating on wnat I might have done. Is this something I have in common with other sahm as I spend alot of time on my own? It is a horrible feeling thinking that I might be doing or saying something that winds people up.
I wanted to start a thread as I am interested to know how others have found new and old friendships post baby.
I may have a touch of paranoia too so if there are no responses I know I must be functioning very badly socially!

OP posts:
ThingsThatMakeYouGoHmmm · 29/09/2012 23:09

I haven't but i had been the one who dropped a friend. I'm sure she thinks its for no reason but she was slowly poisoning me or so it felt. Plus i had my own problems and was sick of being her wailing wall, yet she never asked me about my problems.

It was too one sided.

I immediately felt better after doing it. But i felt rotten too :(

alsonamechanged · 29/09/2012 23:13

I had one whom I think I unwittingly offended by making a major faux pas. Her house was burgled, her children's baby pics on the computer all gone as it was taken by the burglars. I knew she was upset and called her up to try and cheer her up. During the conversation I made a stupid joke saying something along the lines of "the burglars were probably looking for a house filled with electronics, but they were so dumb they went to the wrong house" ... Immediately heard a change in her tone and she asked me to repeat it again and I realised I cocked up. I immediately apologised and said its a silly joke forget it, but she never invited me round hers again. I tried to invite her round mine but she just always ignored my text and so.. that was it really. She is a fundie Muslim kind of, very proud of the fact that she has few possessions... and I wasn't making the joke to insult her. I actually think it's great she can live such a simple and humble life. Whereas I am tearing my hair out at times looking at the mess in my home due to buying too many things. Sigh... oh well, at least I think we may not have gotten very far anyway as I am deep down an agnostic and even if I were to revert to religion, it would never be Islam but Buddhism or Quaker or even Unitarian as I am deep down more into new agey free thinker stuff. She was such a nice person though. Great kids as well. My kids lost a good playmate :-(

Also other friends when I was younger, all drifted apart as a result of distance between us and family responsibilities. I have no friends now. Just a bunch of acquaintances and fair weather contacts :-S It just gets harder and harder to make good friends as I grow older.

BikeRunSki · 29/09/2012 23:21

Yep
My best friend was a gay man. I had known him for far longer than I'd known DH - about 15 years. We met at uni, moved around, always stayed in touch and ended up working in the same city (but I don't live there). Went out on w/e, he came skiing with us, we emailed all the time, saw him at least once a week, went for drinks/coffee after work.......... With a year of DS being born I hardly hear from him. By the time DD was born 3 years later, he didn't even ackowledge any communications from me, even though I know all the contact details I have for him are right, verified with a mutual friend. She asked him if he'd heard from me about 6 months ago. He said "I heard she had another baby" and changed the subject. Makes me very sad.

Schnarkle · 29/09/2012 23:36

Same here Heleninahandcart, it's happened me a few times.

Had a new baby and she arrived at my house 5 days later drunk. Her then boyfriend sat in the car waiting for her. She waffled on for a bit about babies, gave me a teddy bear and left. Never heard from her again.

Same baby born and another friend arrived to my house with her Mother in toe. They ooohed and aahed over the baby and I didn't see friend again for 12 years. No explanation given, but I do think her mother wasn't a huge fan of unmarried mothers and had/has extreme influence over my "friend". I'm reluctant to get close again.

The last one was a friend of about 20 years. She came to stay with my family for the weekend. We drank, ate and were merry. I thought we had a great time, she seemed to too. All contact has been cut on her part. Absolutely no idea what's happened.

chipmonkey · 30/09/2012 00:03

I have had some childless ( or childfree!) friends drift off as soon as I had a baby.
Very hard to take are the friends who couln't be bothered to keep in touch after dd died. I lost a child, I needed them and as far as I know, I haven't contracted leprosy.

Tryingtothinkofnewsnazzyname · 30/09/2012 00:17

This happened earlier in the year with long standing friend of 15+ years. It was ostensibly over a specific social gathering but with hindsight I can see that his partner had been gearing up to push for this for a while, because she wants anyone connected with his ex and his old life away from him. It isn't exactly a 'no idea what happened' scenario but it did happen out of the blue and has been abrupt cut-off - all the getting upset and dwelling on it mentioned in the OP has definitely happened for me. Most hurtful has been that me and DH wrote to him asking what was going on and saying how upset we were and got no reply. Haven't heard a thing since we last parted in person, which was on good terms.

He still owes me some money (not a niggling amount) and I am tempted atm to email and say I need it back and can it be repaid asap. It's true I could do with it, but I'm also aware it's a desire on my part to slap back, as it were.

tzella · 30/09/2012 00:30

I dumped two friends earlier this year! Shock

I was hideously stressed over Xmas with moving and waiting an eternity to hear whether I'd got a job. Couldn't concentrate on the first without knowing about the second.

1st was someone I'd worked with. She was breaking up with her bf as he was having an EA. I listened and listened and advised and advised. I didn't even mind when she parroted everything I'd said back to me after it was over like she'd just thought of it (I sound v bitchy now...). Anyway, so when I needed support she just flipperty-gibberted all over the place and made no real effort to be... be bloody nice to me! So I cut contact and that was it. To be fair she was around 10 years younger than me and probably didn't really know what to say, but you know :( We'd been friends for maybe 6 months and I felt it was easier to just disappear Hmm

Second was someone I'd known longer and all I can really describe it as is; if she was as rude to any of the many men she went one date with as she was to me no wonder she never got a second go [mad]

I've ranted Confused And been a mahoosive bitch Confused What I originally meant to say was that its really really hard to tell people why you don't want to see then anymore when it's relatively silly petty things. Doesn't make them less enraging though.

tzella · 30/09/2012 00:33

The 'hideously stressed' stuff is partly a reason I couldn't handle their v mild bullshit but it also focused my mind to a shining pinpoint of bright light illuminating what I needed and what was good for me

eskimofriends · 30/09/2012 08:15

This has happened to me too. So hurtful and I just don't know why. We've been friends since our sons were 4. They are now 16 and still pals. But she doesn't return my calls, makes vague "we must get together" noises when we meet but is always busy when I try to arrange something. I think it's partly due to the fact that I recently had more kids while her 16 year old is her youngest. Maybe she's getting ready to empty nest and I'm on the toddler-group circuit? Either way it's tricky because I don't want to confront her as it might affect my son's friendship with her son. So I've just let it go. I mentioned it to another (wise) friend who told me 'you have to let go of the people who are already gone'. Sounds trite, but actually it helps

tabbycat15 · 30/09/2012 08:28

Yes we had friends that stayed the weekends with us & can't round all the time. They got married & had a baby then just dropped us. We didn't see them for 4 years. We emailed & asked if we had offended them. We told them that we were emigrating to Australia & did they want to see us before we left. They said they would then cancelled at the last minute, I always wondered why & kept going over in my head why. We emailed them when we got here & sent a Xmas card but never heard back.

MrsMangelfanciedPaulRobinson · 30/09/2012 08:40

Yep I've had it done to me a couple of times; both times the friend has quickly latched onto other friends of mine and they've stopped really talking to me too. It happened once at college; looking back I was low in confidence and this friend did speak/talk to me like dirt. She then one day stopped talking to me and became best friends with two school friends of mine doing a different course. Luckily all the others on our course didn't particularly like her so I had no problem making other friends. Looking back she was a total cow and she did me a favour as I'd never have had the confidence in those days to tell her to get lost.

Second time was in the last few months. Very good (or so I thought!!) friend stopped talking to me and has now latched herself onto about 5 other friends of mine who are all being quite off with me. I was upset but am over it now, they're all welcome to each other, and I really don't need sheep in my life.

I think sometimes I haven't always attracted very nice people as friends tbh

Alliwantisaroomsomewhere · 30/09/2012 09:07

I recently ended a friendship with one of my dearest friends. However, after talking to my DH and to my friend's partner, I went ahead and emailed him, explaining why I was not prepared to continue the friendship. He is an acoholic and a coke addict and it was effecting (affecting??) every part of his life. This was shortly after the Jubilee Weekend. I miss him but I am more upset about what he is doing to himself and what he did to his partner.

I don't remember having been dumped by a friend, but I do go through patches where I feel I have no friends!! Or very few at least. I certainly don't belong to any sort of mini-gang that seems to be the in thing at my Ds's school.

Rowanhart · 30/09/2012 09:15

Yes. My friend from Uni who I went travelling with for a year after.

She has issues with drink and drugs while we were friends and I think I always reminded her of that time. She also had a hard time with my career as she struggled to find something she enjoyed.

She just didn't respond to emails or phone messages. Didn't accept me on facebook.

Sad but I've plenty of other friends and can't help thinking her loss...

panicnotanymore · 30/09/2012 09:34

I've been dumped - someone I got to know through work, but with the benefit of hindsight I can see that outside of work and giggling about boyfriends (we were quite young) we had nothing in common. She was a stereotypical ditzy blonde, loads of fun but a bit vacuous. I'm a sporty intellectual. Chalk and cheese. I was too hyper and too boring for her.

I have also dumped someone. I met her through a friend of a friend, and tbh if it hadn't been for that connection we would never have made friends to start with. Sweet girl but clingy and needy with no 'gumption' about anything. I once gave her a map when I was driving us to a party and asked her to let me know which motorway junction to turn off at. Not a hard one. She just sort of dissolved in tears and flapped ineffectually, so I had to drive, and map read, and hand hold, and arghhhhh. I still get xmas cards with comments along the lines of 'must meet up' and I feel terrible but never reply. I just don't want to deal with hopeless pathetic can't manage anything drifting in a woman of 40 odd. That probably makes me a bad person, but friends should be people you enjoy spending time with, not people you dread having to see (we all have family for that role Grin).

piprabbit · 30/09/2012 09:40

I've only been very actively dropped once. It was at school. I'd been part of a close group of 3 girls. One day I went in to school and one of my friends refused to speak to me. She never spoke to me again, and despite humiliating myself begging, she never explained (either direct to me or via another friend) what had happened to make her hate me. That one still hurts nearly 30 years later.

I have been passively dropped by more friends than I can mention. I seem to be someone who is easily forgotten. I go from being close with people, to finding that I am included less and less in their lives, until finally I have to be realistic and face up to the fact that we aren't really friends at all.

I'm shit at this friendship thing.

Sabriel · 30/09/2012 09:45

Just went to add a message and saw a post I'd added under a previous nn 4 years ago Shock

Zombie thread people.

lovechoc · 30/09/2012 09:46

"Sad but I've plenty of other friends and can't help thinking her loss..."

That's what DH keeps telling me, that it's not worth dwelling on. And it is their loss if they just 'drop' you.

lovechoc · 30/09/2012 09:49

Sabriel I was the one who had posted last night as I did a 'search' and found this and it's something I can relate to as it's just happened to me. Was hoping for others opinions on it too. :)

purplehouse · 30/09/2012 10:03

Sometimes the fault lies with the dumper and sometimes the fault lies with the dumpee.

OP - I would suggest that you consider whether you have done any of the following things that might have caused friend to dump you. If you have not, then just carry on and consider it to be the fault of the other person.

Reasons people get dumped and they are considered to be at fault:

  1. Give and take imbalance - eg one friend continually giving and the other always taking. This can mean a lot of things - always asking someome to look after your child where you don't reciprocate or reciprocation is not wanted, one friend always paying for coffee/hosting/similar, one friend always wanting emotional support and never giving it back, friend repeatedly taking stuff like outgrown clothes or toys without thanks...etc

  2. Stalking and harrassment tendencies - eg one friend calling and phone not answered (or email/text not answered). Then calling/texting/emailing again and again.....this is intrusive! Just wait for the reply.
    Or one friend copying everything the other does - choice of clothes, choice of activities/places visited or always tagging along.

  3. Child development issues - my baby is a better crawler than yours sort of thing, my child reads better than yours... not put quite so bluntly but you know what I mean.

  4. Child incompatibility issues - you can't force one child to get on with another child just because you get on with their mum.

  5. Lies being told and found out. Or, bitching about friend to another friend and getting found out.

There are other people who will dump people over one throwaway comment which was taken the wrong way etc...usually this is the dumper being oversensitive etc.

Tryingtothinkofnewsnazzyname · 30/09/2012 10:07

Read the Wendy thread from about a month ago. It's not in the thread title but search for Wendy in the post and you'll find it. All about hurtful friend behaviour.

charlottehere · 30/09/2012 10:15

That email is brilliant phsycomum

Tamoo · 30/09/2012 10:49

Speaking from the other side: I dumped a friend once. We'd known each other for a couple of years and our dc started school together. My reason was that ds was having a lot of problems in P1 and was the subject of much gossip in the playground, a lot of it very nasty. She knew I was lonely and feeling attacked (both personally and on behalf of ds). However then I found out that she was getting a bit involved in it herself. She not only partook in the gossip but also began to exclude ds from things we would previously have done together.

I'm terrible at confrontation and it's typical of me to react to difficult situations using avoidance. I was also going through a personally stressful time for other reasons. So I simply stopped answering her texts. She had no clue what was up and although it sounds pathetic I didn't know how to deal with the situation properly. Tbh I regret it now and often think of her and wonder how she's doing. She was funny, sweet and good company and after all, nobody's perfect. I do wish I'd handled it differently: explained to her how I felt and allowed her the chance to give her side of the story. In hindsight it really wasn't an issue worth losing a friend over but too late now Sad

Lindt70Percent · 30/09/2012 11:07

I have dropped a friend that I have had since I was 10 (so, roughly 30 years). It's really because she is very private to the point of secretive and I always felt like I was being kept at arm's length. When having conversations with her she is always asking questions about me and my family but when I ask her anything she manages to deflect it and you leave knowing nothing more about her than before. Another school friend feels exactly the same with her.

Some of the things she has kept secret over the years have been:

  • she went to Australia to stay with a relative for 6 weeks over the summer holidays when we were 10. She never mentioned she was going. I only found out when her mum asked mine if I'd write to her as she was homesick.
  • her sister had a pony - didn't know about this for years.
  • she was doing a PGCE - I knew her husband was just about to start doing his but she never mentioned she would be doing it too.

There are more things but they're all odd things. I think her secrecy is mainly to do with money and not wanting people to think that she's wealthy or that her family may be wealthy. She is very penny pinching although she has got plenty of money - will only drink tap water if we go out, didn't invite my now husband to her wedding reception (because we'd only been together a year) to keep costs down etc. She avoids making phone calls because of the bill, but will phone if one of her children leaves a pair of socks at your house asking for them to be posted back to her.

One time she needed somewhere to live and DH was looking for tenants for his flat as he'd just moved in with me. We let them live in his flat on mate's rates for a couple of months while they found somewhere else (his flat was a studio flat and not really where they wanted to live long term). When they moved in we put a bottle of wine in the fridge and left bread, tea and milk along with a note saying give us a call and we'll go out together. We lived a 5 minute walk away. They never called and were always busy when we called. However when they moved out she mentioned that they'd enjoyed the wine and had shared it with some friends they'd invited round for a meal.

She's one of those people who appears to be incredibly polite and caring on the surface but all her actions are pretty rude and inconsiderate. I was once trying to leave her house with my firstborn who was a couple of weeks old and I wanted to get home before the next round of feeding / changing. Her baby needed changing so she asked me to wait while she changed her and then she'd say goodbye. She spent 45 minutes changing her nappy - I'm not exaggerating!

I let so many things go over the years but since having children (we had our first children within a few weeks of each other) I've found it hard to be around her.

She moved 150 miles away a few years ago but her parents moved about 5 mins away from me so she comes to visit them regularly.

She is always, always late. Every time we have met up the arrangements have been very complicated and you know you're being shoe-horned in amongst lots of other visits. Last meeting she turned at 45 mins late when we were only going to be able to see her for an hour. I know she's busy but she has always been late by a minimum of half an hour and sometimes 2 hours which is annoying - we're busy people too.

The last time I saw her was about 18 months ago and after another rushed meeting where she avoided saying anything about herself I decided that I didn't really want to see her again. It doesn't feel like any sort of meaningful, real friendship as she will share nothing about her life. She phoned recently but I haven't called back. I don't want to discuss it with her because I don't want to have any sort of falling out and my issues with her have gone back 30 years and it would seem petty to bring them up now.

Oh my goodness, I've ranted a lot. I think I feel quite guilty about all of this as it's not that I don't like her and wouldn't help her out if she needed it, it's more that I feel bad around her and want to avoid feeling like that.

Lindt70Percent · 30/09/2012 11:09

Crikey, just realised how old this thread is!

SammyTheSwedishSquirrel · 30/09/2012 11:14

Happens to me all the time, but then I have Asperger's. Everything seems to be going fine, I feel happy that I've finally made a friend, then I get utterly dumped with no further contact and I don't have a clue why. It's horrible :(

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