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Glam & Fab Part 5 - Summer Loving

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macdoodle · 15/05/2008 19:11

Gosh time for a new thread already
I'm up for a half term meet - tis the week of the bank hol here 26 May - I will be with sis in Hitchin prob from Sun 25 May most of that week so up for London or roundabout meetup

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HappyWoman · 16/06/2008 13:09

Absolutly TFM

Yes i do think a random peson would have been better.
She did betray me too. She made all these assumutions about me and my life without having the decency to actually get to know me. She called me a lazy wench in one of her emails - and i think it is her obvious 'hatred' of me for no reason expect for being his wife that still does hurt.
I know i have my faults but i pride myself in giving people to the benifit of the doubt and trying to see the best in others.
I know h was to blame for telling her about our problems but again i find it hard to put myself in her position - if a man came to me with his problems i would try and help him sort them out (however much i faniced his pants off - and i do have a male friend who i think i could cross the line with at times ).

I think if she were to somehow appologise for her part then i could move forward - but instead she just seems to have dug her heels in at h work and to me that is almost like sticking her fingers up to me too iyswim. Difficult to understand myself too - and if i am to not give her the time of day - i try not to over-think too much.

But thanks for listening anyway and it really does help.

Anyway got lots to think about - we have booked to go to austrailia for xmas to see some friends - omg still cant believe we are actually going to do it .

lilyloo · 16/06/2008 13:11

TFM the feeling like somehow by taking them back you have given them a green light to treat you so badly is a daily battle for me.

HW i really don't think having the outburst made me feel any better in the long run, it was the life changes we made that helped. All it served to do was prove that she was easily able to ruin someones life without a second thought. DP just stood there shame faced so he was the one who felt guilty not her.
I think you have to focus on the changes you can make to your life now to help you work through it as holding on to feelings about her helps her still have control over you iyswim.

Anniegetyourgun · 16/06/2008 13:13

HW - nah, I think you would now be saying to us "If only I had kept my dignity and stuck to the moral high ground instead of socking her one, would I now feel she was out of my system?" You wouldn't want to soil your knuckles on her anyway, she might be contagious or something.

TimeForMe · 16/06/2008 13:13

No HW, I think you are definately better of for maintaining your dignity and not socking her in the gob! Imagine the office gossip "well, it's no surprise he had an affair if he's been living with that!" or along the lines of
I'm all for maintaining dignity. When I 'row' I 'row' eloquently and dignified, I don't raise my voice, I just frustrate the hell out of whoever is trying to 'row' with me by using long words that they don't understand I love a good 'row', it's such fun!

Right HW, here is my take on things. Yes, you still have this anger, yes you may well have buried some of it in the beginning BUT, whatever the reasons the bottom line is that this is something you are feeling, it is something that you have control over byt changing your train of thoughts, your way of thinking, it isn't something that will be solved by physically taking revenge. It won't change anything. The affair will still have happened and OW will still exsist. All you will have served to do is lower yourself. I think you have handled everything in such an admirable way, (just as I would have done too) there is no way that I would give SG's the satisfaction of knowing the impact she had made on me and on my life, absolutely no way!! You are punishing her in the best possible way by simply appearing to dismiss her and get on with your life, rebuilding your marriage. Imagine if you were the OW, how would you feel if you were on her side of the fence looking at you? I know how I would feel! Infact, I think I would be living in fear that one day you were going to blowup and come and smack me in the gob!

I think you need to continue on the path you are already on. I also think (and forgive me for this cos I may be wrong) you need to work on your self esteem and self worth a bit more. The stronger you feel, the happier you feel, the less anyone can hurt you. Thats my secret. I have never been as happy with 'me' than I am now. I have waited a very long time for this day to come but it has been well worth the wait

TimeForMe · 16/06/2008 13:18

No HW, not hatred from OW but envy. She was envious of you and envious of the love you had with your H, her own life lacked so she set out to get from your H what you were getting from him. She wanted what you had. Your H was played by a very devious woman.

You would probably have got more understanding of your pain from a 'random woman', she may have been sorry for the hurt she had caused you but this woman, no, she feels angry because she didn't get what she wanted. She isn't going to apologise because she isn't sorry for what she has done to you, she is only sorry that she lost out.

Try to take pleasure from that xxx

Dior · 16/06/2008 13:21

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TimeForMe · 16/06/2008 13:23

Lily, it's lovely to read your posts. Not because I am pleased that you still battle wit what happened but because everytime you do post you sound so happy and sorted but I often, no always, wonder if you really did manage to put it all behind you and get on with it. You don't often give an insight as to how you are feeling

As for the daily battles you experience I think you need to remind yourself daily that you are a strong and very forgiving woman, that is why your lovely family is still together. You need to be very proud of yourself. You should also let that show on the outside as confidence, let your H know just by looking at you, just by talking to you that he does not have the green light to cheat on you ever again!! xx

TimeForMe · 16/06/2008 13:25

I think Dior that a lot of these women believe that if they slag off the ex wife or the wife the H will actually believe what they are saying. Deluded women that they are

Dior · 16/06/2008 13:39

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macdoodle · 16/06/2008 13:42

Right off to solicitor - heart pounding mouth dry wish me luck report back later!

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Dior · 16/06/2008 13:43

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TimeForMe · 16/06/2008 13:43

Wey Hey! Good for you! Well done! Thats the first step in the right direction. It may seem sad now but when you are making your jewellery whilst sat out in the garden you won't think so

TimeForMe · 16/06/2008 13:44

Good luck MacD! Thinking of you and sending you lots of stength! Stay strong! xxx

Dior · 16/06/2008 13:47

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TimeForMe · 16/06/2008 13:53

In the garden, in the sunshine. Right, tell H you need a shed, a hobby shed. Then you have your own space for your crafting, without distractions.

Paddlechick666 · 16/06/2008 14:40

at least we don't have this kind of issue

Baffy · 16/06/2008 14:46

Good luck macd xx

(I am lurking btw but having the day from hell again and can't be doing with another 7pm finish ds must think his mummy is grandma these days! )

BTW Dior you have discussed your plans with H haven't you?! I'd hate to think we'd talked you into a snap decision that you didn't think through. Your H will be banging down our doors otherwise!!
I'm pleased you're following your heart though

Dior · 16/06/2008 16:05

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TimeForMe · 16/06/2008 16:08

But not before you discussed it with us obviously!

Dior · 16/06/2008 16:13

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lilyloo · 16/06/2008 16:24

McD good luck and remember this is to arm yourself with all the info you need , you haven't got to make any decisions yet, one step at a time.

TFM you are so right i don't really talk tbh which i think is part of mine and dp problem and i do try to be always more open with dp.
I try and muddle through myself and deal with things on my own. Infuriates my best f no end as i am usually at breaking point before i ask for support.

This is why i think this thread is fab as i love how you all help each other. I wish i had found you all when i was going through this. But you are right i am not sure i will ever get over it.

lilyloo · 16/06/2008 16:26

PC would beno point kidnapping me to do that , i don't even do it now!

Baffy · 16/06/2008 17:59

I'm still in work Again.
It's all gone wrong and I'm left to fix it. Again!

I can't do this anymore

TimeForMe · 16/06/2008 18:08

Lily I don't think you ever do really get over something like that. I think as time goes by it becomes less significant, it get's replaced by (hopefully) happier memories too. There will come a day or a week or whatever, when you give it no headspace at all, thats when you have truly moved on. It takes time though, sometimes we can be a little impatient and want it all sorted out so we can get back to feeling how we did before it happened but, no matter how much you rush it, no matter how much you choose to ignore certain things or not let them bother you, there is a process you have to go through before you get there.

TimeForMe · 16/06/2008 18:11

Baffy!! This is getting ridiculous!! I'm not surprised you feel you can't do it anymore. You are doing far too much, spreading yourself too thin. I can speak from experience on this, looking back now I don't know how the heck I did it with 3 children in tow. I do get a bit bored being a SHAM sometimes but I could never go back to the stress of being a working mum, never mind a single working mum.

Baffy, is it possible for you to cut your working week down to four days maybe? Or work from home a couple of days? xxx

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