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Glam & Fab Part 5 - Summer Loving

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macdoodle · 15/05/2008 19:11

Gosh time for a new thread already
I'm up for a half term meet - tis the week of the bank hol here 26 May - I will be with sis in Hitchin prob from Sun 25 May most of that week so up for London or roundabout meetup

OP posts:
WilyWombat · 11/06/2008 11:02

I agree with lillyloo much as you may love someone you cannot make them love you - take a look at yourself you have everything going for you and you are still young you can make a better life for yourself and no it wont happen overnight but much as you may want him you dont need him.

I do think he uses you as a security blanket and until you have the strength to remove your support for him completely and not see him/be in contact with him constantly you will keep ending up back here.

I may sound harsh but I am speaking from experience

Baffy · 11/06/2008 11:02

Yes I understand that lily

Baffy · 11/06/2008 11:03

WW not harsh in the slightest. Really helpful. Thank you

Paddlechick666 · 11/06/2008 11:06

I'm not young

baffy, yeah i'm ok. very busy/stressed at work.

neighbour situation is dire tbh. flat is not shifting and housing assoc have pulled out.

feeling pretty rubbish about the future tbh. am very very confused about what i want and how to get it.

i just know that i don't want what i have!

TimeForMe · 11/06/2008 11:07

Yes, you do live with the possibility he may do it again BUT I think you live with a vague possibility of that happening within any relationship.

Yes, you do make a statement that you accept what he has done BUT you also make a statement that you can move on from that, that you love him enough to forgive him and build a 'new' relationship with him. You will never again have the relationship you had but with a lot of hard work you could have a good relationship.

I think at the moment you are thinking a heck of a lot, maybe too much and maybe too far ahead. Right now I think you should be taking it one step at a time, enjoying his company, letting him take you out, letting him do all the work. Try not to think of what you would like at the end of it, for the three of you to be back to being a family. If you think to hard about that you are in danger of rushing things to get there and compromising yourself, overlooking things you should be seeing IYSWIM.

You are also in danger of letting your fears of what might happen spoil things. Worrying about what might happen is like paying a tax before it is due. I would say you just need to stay alert, you yourself will know if things feel right or not, just don't fib to yourself in an effort to get back together with him. Be true to yourself!

I think I know what you want, you want your husband back, you want the life you had and the future you had planned. It was all very viciously (and quite deviously) taken away from you. Sometimes I wonder if you are still in shock, if you can quite believe what has happened to you. It is a horrible realisation, it really is but the hard fact is that you are never going to have back what was taken away from you. If you were to live with H again you may have to get used to living with a different H to the one you lived with first time round. So, ask yourself this, do you like the new H, just as he is or, do you like the man you believe he is? Do you love the new H or are you still in love with the H you believe him still to be? This is where you have to be true to yourself because if you aren't you will find yourself going round in circles constantly.

If you do love the new H, if you do like him and you do accept the changes in him and in the relationship then go for it! All the other stuff is to be worked on from within yourself, you will have to learn to trust him, you will have to learn to be secure within yourself etc or it may be your insecurities and doubts that will spoils things.
Now personally I wouldn't trust him not to hurt me again, I would trust myself that I could cope and deal with it without going under. You have to do whatever it takes to protect yourself. xxx

TimeForMe · 11/06/2008 11:11

Gosh! it took me that long you have all said it all!

PC sell up, pack up and go travelling, DD is at the perfect age, enjoy yourself while you are still young! And yes, being a year and a half younger than me, you are young!

WilyWombat · 11/06/2008 11:12

Ah well and ex I totally adored was once throwing me crumbs at the end of our relationship but being a bit of an "all or nothing" person I walked away. He did contact me again but tbh I would never have trusted him - he wasnt trustworthy, he just wasnt good enough for me

I now have the whole cake - and a much nicer cake at that too.

I thing also when there is an OW there is also a desire to "win" but sometimes when you look at it objectively the prize just isnt worth having

I never had "closure" and he still very occasionally haunts my dreams but I would have outgrown him by now even if we had stayed together.

Baffy · 11/06/2008 11:28

Ok plan of action...

Back off

Work out what I want

Give him the time and space to sort himself out.

Take it from there...

PC I know how you feel Maybe we should pack up and go off travelling together! Who knows what's out there!

Baffy · 11/06/2008 11:31

p.s. WW you're right. I very much do still want to win. He fed her a lot of lines - I don't understand him, we never have sex etc. Which she threw back at me many a time! I would love to throw that all back in her face when she realised that it really was all a bunch of crap just to get her into bed!

But very true. Is the prize worth winning. Looking at what he's done. No!

WilyWombat · 11/06/2008 11:42

But the psycho slag isnt really worth your effort is she, very sad but she will never be happy whoever she is with but you can just think of that as the ultimate revenge rather than getting GW back

You have a great starting block with your lovely DS and you have a career opportunities a lot of women would love - but it will take time.

Dior · 11/06/2008 11:59

Message withdrawn

Baffy · 11/06/2008 12:18
Smile
TimeForMe · 11/06/2008 12:22

So, what are we going to talk about now? Just when i thought we had something to get our teeth into Baffy sorts herself out!

Baffy · 11/06/2008 12:35

It's just a front really! I'll have another meltdown tomorrow I'm sure!

And I do worry that if I go on too much you'll all just start blocking me on here and deleting my number etc!!

I could give you my next problem to deal with... Married man. Gorgeous. Has offered a night of no-strings sex if I fancy it!!

He is was a good family friend.

Now how do I tell him NO without using the words I really want to use!!

ginnedup · 11/06/2008 12:36

Lets talk about cake some more. I'm starving and trying to cut down on the naughty stuff so I can fit into my bikini

TimeForMe · 11/06/2008 12:40

No Baffy! You tell him NO and use the words you do want to use! My gosh, some friend eh? An opportunist.

Actually, why not agree to it, arrange to meet him somewhere vile and just don't show up. We need to think of a way to teach this guy a lesson!

Baffy · 11/06/2008 12:41

I could arrange to meet him.

But also arrange to meet his wife in the same place...

Then stay at home and see what happens...!!

TimeForMe · 11/06/2008 12:42

We had better talk about salad then GU

TimeForMe · 11/06/2008 12:44

Yes! do it. Men like this need teaching a lesson. No strings sex indeed. God, he must think he is good at it if he thinks you would want some of it. Yuk!

Paddlechick666 · 11/06/2008 12:47

baffy tell him to fuck right off.

what a slime.......

oh actually, what is sex?

Baffy · 11/06/2008 12:49

Yuk indeed!!

To make matters worse one of the Directors in work, (nice guy, very rich! but waaaay to old for me) has asked me out on a date!

Do I have DESPERATE written across my forehead?!!

Don't you dare say yes!!

So how do I tell him no thank you without causing myself hassle in work with a boss who has a deflated ego! (He's not a direct boss btw)

Do you think I'll ever have a quiet life again?!

Baffy · 11/06/2008 12:54

Good answer PC

You know what. He has a gorgeous wife too. Two beautiful children. His wife reminds me a bit of angelina jolie. But nicer. She's very beautiful.

Just goes to show hey. If someone like him can't appreciate what he's got it's pretty worrying. He'd risk all of that for 1 night.
Tw*t!

Paddlechick666 · 11/06/2008 13:00

doesn't give you much faith in men does it really? like any of has much anyway

wrt the boss guy just come over all wounded female and tell him you're not ready for dating right now.

alternatively come over all power working mother and say you only have time for your career and your son at the moment.

thirdly tell him you've become a lesbian as you realise that men and women are just incompatible

the finaly solution would resolve any workplace dating issues

TimeForMe · 11/06/2008 13:01

No Baffy, tis not you who is desperate but they. The older guy, blimey, he would think all of his Christmases had come at once if you said yes!

It just makes you wonder what goes on in the mind of these men. To have a beautiful wife and a family and be actively persuing another woman, is it normal to them do you think? It's so blooming common!

TimeForMe · 11/06/2008 13:02

Or... sue him for sexual harrassment, claim millions then retire to somewhere rural with DS

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