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Husband and I will be splitting up

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Housewife8 · 10/04/2025 03:52

My husband and I will be splitting up I am moving out of the marital house and moving in with my mum and dad and the children don't know because I am leaving them with my husband has anyone else left their children

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scoobysnaxx · 10/04/2025 12:19

As well as the impact on the children. Parents divorcing and mum leaving. You risk them having abandonment issues and putting them through even more

BustyLaRoux · 10/04/2025 12:20

I am the child of a mum who walked out one day. It wasn’t a surprise she left (as in, I knew she wanted to leave) but she left one day when I was at my friends house and my dad picked me up in the morning and just blurted out “by the way, your mother left yesterday”. I felt like someone had ripped my insides out. But I held it together. Because that’s what I felt was expected.

Although I did see her a few times a week, me and my sibling were left living with my dad. I never lived with my mum again.

This was devastating. I loved my mum very much and I didn’t have a great relationship with my dad. He was a difficult man. Though he didn’t abuse me, emotionally he is only focused on himself. It was very hard. He became depressed and suicidal. And more than once I had to talk him out of killing himself. No one asked if I was OK. My grades slipped, my attendance at school slipped. No one did anything. Or even spoke to me about it.

At the time, and actually until fairly recently, I didn’t realise the damage this had caused me. Which was naive I think. Of course it has scarred me. I was abandoned by the only parent I loved!

My brother is younger and has been emotionally damaged by this abandonment. Although he perhaps doesn’t realise this. He has a very close relationship with his DD, but he is emotionally unavailable for anyone else (except me). He thinks of himself as an island and would not ever allow himself to be vulnerable. Which is very different to how he was as a child.

My mother was never able to overcome leaving her children. Despite repeated assurances from me that it was fine, there was no harm done, nothing to forgive as far as I was concerned etc., she could never forgive herself and she drank herself into an early grave. I was in my 30s when she died of an alcohol related disease.

My father, like your children’s father, also would not have left the family home. As I say, he is difficult. I fully understand why my mum had to leave. I don’t blame her. But at the same time I cannot understand how she could leave us. I have children of my own who are the same ages as me and my brother when she left, and I couldn’t leave them. Things have been bad but there is nothing that would make me leave them behind. Nothing. Therefore although when I was younger I understood why she left and I didn’t hold it against her, as a parent I now find it harder and harder to comprehend. I blame my dad for driving her to do what she did (if I have to blame anyone). Blame aside, the emotional cost has been extremely high! And my mother paid with her life in the end. I wish she had had the strength to stay and fight. I wish to god I had been able to stay with her. I miss her every day. It is, even now, bringing me to tears to write this down.

You must be in a dreadful state to be considering this. So you absolutely have my sympathy. This isn’t easy. If there’s any way you can stay, or take the children with you, any other option, then please do take time to consider it. Although on paper we are all OK, the legacy of her decision continues to this day.

wizzywig · 10/04/2025 12:20

@Itwasforthebest thank you for your honesty. We do need to normalize that mother's can say that being the main carer/ resident parent is not for them.

Watermill · 10/04/2025 12:27

How old are the children?

Why are you leaving?

Do you feel unsafe?

Have you taken legal advice?

PinkyFlamingo · 10/04/2025 12:33

Do you honestly think just because he's refusing to leave leaving your children is the right thing to do?

MrsSlocombesCat · 10/04/2025 12:40

My husband threw me out of the house because he thought I was having an affair. I wasn't but I was talking to someone on the phone. I really wanted to be out of the marriage and felt so guilty I agreed to leave the children with him. He took them to Scotland because he knew my job didn't pay well and contact would be difficult. I saw them a couple of times and then he stopped me. When I eventually found a solicitor who could deal with Scottish law I wasn't granted access rights. At fifteen my youngest rang me and asked me to collect him after which he lived with me but I missed out on so many years. I'm in contact with all of them now but the pain of those years will stay with me forever. It's been over thirty years and I still cry over it sometimes. Please don't leave your children. People implored me at the time not to but I wouldn't listen, and it's the biggest regret of my life.

OhHellolittleone · 10/04/2025 12:46

wizzywig · 10/04/2025 12:20

@Itwasforthebest thank you for your honesty. We do need to normalize that mother's can say that being the main carer/ resident parent is not for them.

Why would we want to normalise that?

OhHellolittleone · 10/04/2025 12:48

I think so long as you do it in a considered way (age appropriate) and your partner is a good father, then there’s no difference
in father or mother leaving. I say this as someone whose mother left the family home when I was a child. We lived with my dad for a while, before she got a house we could stay in, and then it was split evenly. I don’t think he ‘refused to leave’ just that he wasn’t the one who wanted to move on and it was his home (still is… my mum makes comments when she’s there cos it’s not that different to how she did it may years ago)

CoralOP · 10/04/2025 12:53

My mum left my dad when I was 5 and sister was 7, he wouldn't leave so she lived with us in a women's refuge until she got a council flat.
I'm sure she hated every minute of it but you've got to do what you've got to do, think of other alternatives.

AthWat · 10/04/2025 13:11

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 10/04/2025 12:00

I would be worried about parental alienation in this scenario, @Housewife8.

It sounds like your husband has beaten you down (whether metaphorically or literally) to get you to leave so he can stay in the family home with your children and you walk away in the clothes you are standing up in.

It seems highly likely that if you go and leave your children behind, they will feel abandoned by you and your husband will encourage this by telling them that you have waltzed off into the sunset without a backwards glance and don't care about them at all. Even if you spend the next couple of years fighting hard to get divorced and get your fair share of the house and get your own place to live and then ask the court to order that your children live with you, by then you will no longer be the resident parent and your children may tell a judge that they want to stay in their home with their dad. You could end up in a situation where a judge gives you every other weekend with your kids and orders you to pay child support to your husband.

If it is not dangerous for you to remain in the house with your husband, stay in the house, issue divorce proceedings and try to get everything sorted as quickly as possible so you can divide up the money and each go your separate ways, without having set a precedent for your husband to be the primary carer of your children.

If it is dangerous for you to remain there with him, it is also dangerous for your children to remain there with him. Get the police involved, try to get an occupation order, and if all else fails, take your children with you at all costs. If they can't go to your parents' house with your children then see if there is a shelter you can go to temporarily.

But I really think you will regret leaving your children.

"It sounds like your husband has beaten you down (whether metaphorically or literally) to get you to leave so he can stay in the family home with your children and you walk away in the clothes you are standing up in."

I mean, it doesn't really; it doesn't sound like anything as we've been told almost nothing.

It could mean that she's demanding a divorce for her own reasons; he's done nothing wrong and he wants to stay with the kids.

AthWat · 10/04/2025 13:12

PinkyFlamingo · 10/04/2025 12:33

Do you honestly think just because he's refusing to leave leaving your children is the right thing to do?

She might want to leave them with him for all any of us know. Her question is just whether anyone else has done it.

caringcarer · 10/04/2025 13:12

My nephew's exw just left one day without telling him or DC. She just packed her stuff while he was at work to live overseas with a person she met in the internet. My nephew got a call from school to say no one had come to collect kids from school. He rushed to get them and couldn't reach his wife by phone. He thought she must have been in an accident or similar. When he got kids home he found she'd packed all her stuff including passport and taken all money from fire safe and gone. He checked bank account and she'd taken half of savings too. He is an electrician and had to reorganise his working life around DC childcare. My sister collected DC from school twice a week and kept them until he collected on the way home from work. His MiL collected and kept them once a week after school. He had to finish early other 2 days as no spaces in after school club but following term they found 1 space and a childminder collected older DC. Both DC under 11 at time they were abandoned. Kids almost grown up now. Eldest has refused to see his Mum at all and youngest was ordered to go once a week after 2 years of not seeing her at all as she lived overseas. When it all went wrong with her new partner she came back but neither DC wanted to know her. Eventually she took nephew to court for access to kids. He said he wasn't forcing them to visit her. It dragged on but eventually court ordered younger DC who was 13 at the time 1 evening a week until he was 15 then he refused to go any more and even though she went back to court at 15 judge said DC was old enough to chose for himself. He said when he did have to go to his Mums he just went into his bedroom and refused to come out. He refused to speak to her. That's what can happen if you just abandon your kids without talking to them first and explaining what is happening and when you will be back for them.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 10/04/2025 13:13

AthWat · 10/04/2025 13:11

"It sounds like your husband has beaten you down (whether metaphorically or literally) to get you to leave so he can stay in the family home with your children and you walk away in the clothes you are standing up in."

I mean, it doesn't really; it doesn't sound like anything as we've been told almost nothing.

It could mean that she's demanding a divorce for her own reasons; he's done nothing wrong and he wants to stay with the kids.

She is on the point of leaving her home without her children because he is refusing to leave.

It doesn't sound like they've been able to have an adult discussion about how to separate and what to do about the children. He's just refusing to engage.

StrangerThings1 · 10/04/2025 13:13

Housewife8 · 10/04/2025 03:52

My husband and I will be splitting up I am moving out of the marital house and moving in with my mum and dad and the children don't know because I am leaving them with my husband has anyone else left their children

Get legal advice before leaving, Is your living situation currently extremely difficult, is he verbally / emotionally abusing you in the hope you will leave, Ie forcing you out, if he is this needs to be said to your legal advisor
If you leave are and then try to get custody of the kids it could possibly be very difficult

AthWat · 10/04/2025 13:16

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 10/04/2025 13:13

She is on the point of leaving her home without her children because he is refusing to leave.

It doesn't sound like they've been able to have an adult discussion about how to separate and what to do about the children. He's just refusing to engage.

We've been told he's refusing to leave; not refusing to engage. Possibly saying "you're the one who wants us to split up, I've done nothing wrong, I'm staying here and looking after the kids; if you think one of us has to move out in a rush, you can; otherwise stay here."

I don't know, you don't know, there's no information.

WhereYouLeftIt · 10/04/2025 13:19

AthWat · 10/04/2025 13:16

We've been told he's refusing to leave; not refusing to engage. Possibly saying "you're the one who wants us to split up, I've done nothing wrong, I'm staying here and looking after the kids; if you think one of us has to move out in a rush, you can; otherwise stay here."

I don't know, you don't know, there's no information.

Edited

No - he's refusing to leave. OP posted "Because he is refusing to leave" at 07:08 this morning.

AthWat · 10/04/2025 13:19

OhHellolittleone · 10/04/2025 12:46

Why would we want to normalise that?

Why wouldn't we? Do you think mothers should be forced to stay with their kids even if they don't want to and the father does? "Normalise it" just means treat it as acceptable, not make it the norm.

WhereYouLeftIt · 10/04/2025 13:20

WhereYouLeftIt · 10/04/2025 13:19

No - he's refusing to leave. OP posted "Because he is refusing to leave" at 07:08 this morning.

Argh, sorry, misread yours as being opposite way round - apologies!

AthWat · 10/04/2025 13:21

WhereYouLeftIt · 10/04/2025 13:19

No - he's refusing to leave. OP posted "Because he is refusing to leave" at 07:08 this morning.

Yes, he's refusing to leave. What I said is one way out of many he could be refusing to leave. What do you interpret "refusing to leave" as meaning?

AthWat · 10/04/2025 13:22

WhereYouLeftIt · 10/04/2025 13:20

Argh, sorry, misread yours as being opposite way round - apologies!

Apologies, that was my fault actually, I thought I edited it so quickly that nobody would have read it.

whatapalarva · 10/04/2025 13:26

@BustyLaRoux a tragic story. So sorry for your loss of your mum. ❤

Waterweight · 10/04/2025 13:29

Take the kids with you - sign on for single parent payments & go from there unless they really get on with their dad & he's a responsible parent this will scar them & cost you dearly

Starseeking · 10/04/2025 13:32

In my situation I took the children with me and we lived with my parents for what turned out to be 15 months in one bedroom (it was only supposed to be 3 months 😩😩😩).

If I were you I would take the children with you to your parents house, and live there with them until the divorce goes through.

HelpMePlease74 · 10/04/2025 13:34

As a 50 year old woman who’s Mum left her when she was 5, please take any advice possible to avoid having to do this. I still saw Mum and obvs still do but there’s something in me that’s still angry but can’t bring it up with her xx

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 10/04/2025 13:45

I do know of that exact situation two decades ago. Both professional people, the mother the higher earner. Beautiful house near the school. Children settled. Father refused to move out during divorce. Mother moved into a shitty little rental for a few years until the house was sold and assets divided. I don’t think the children were happy but it was the only way she could get away from him.