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Husband had an affair - advice needed!

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Strawberrina · 09/04/2025 11:13

I found out last year that my husband had an affair with a work colleague who is 25 years younger than him. The affair was emotional as well as physical. He was and is her manager at the workplace. The difficulty is that they continue to work together in a small office consisting of 4-5 members of staff, including them, and see each other almost every day. The town in which we live is a small regional town and there are limited jobs available for someone with his level of experience. We have reconciled and are working through things, but I'm at my wits end about what to do! I'm not happy that they work together and see each other almost daily.
Any advice would be welcome!

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OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 20/06/2025 23:23

Oh yes - criminal lawyer of many years standing in the community asks the other woman whom he has admitted he loves, not to drive down a public road in the same small town he lives in

Of course he did !

NOT

3luckystars · 20/06/2025 23:28

You have a job at a university? I’m absolutely amazed at that fact more than anything else on this entire thread.

Do they have any critical thinking books you could borrow? You need to really develop these skills because you would, as we would say here, swallow a brick.

you are believing all these cock and bull stories your lying husband is telling you.

Why is that do you think? No need to answer, but really I’m astounded you are allowing him to make such a fool out of you. You are the mother of his children.

Strawberrina · 20/06/2025 23:30

3luckystars · 20/06/2025 23:28

You have a job at a university? I’m absolutely amazed at that fact more than anything else on this entire thread.

Do they have any critical thinking books you could borrow? You need to really develop these skills because you would, as we would say here, swallow a brick.

you are believing all these cock and bull stories your lying husband is telling you.

Why is that do you think? No need to answer, but really I’m astounded you are allowing him to make such a fool out of you. You are the mother of his children.

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@3luckystars yes, I work at a university. Thanks for your advice, but there is no need to be rude.

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3luckystars · 20/06/2025 23:32

I’m not being rude. I’m utterly dumbfounded that an educated woman as yourself is believing everything he is saying without question. Why are you doing this?

There is no need to answer me, I’m just saying think about why you are allowing him to fool you. None of these little stories he is telling you make sense.

You are blindly believing someone who has previously lied.

Thewookiemustgo · 20/06/2025 23:37

After infidelity there always has to be a radical shift by one or both of you to change what needs to change. Or nothing does.
If you’re ok with him staying in the same office as his OW because the upheaval is too much then the advice here is of no use to you. He can change his job, it is possible.
@Strawberrina you are responding selectively to comments here. I don’t blame you for ignoring some of the unpleasant unnecessary stuff, but if you were never going to change a single thing or make him make a significant change, then asking for advice was always pointless.

Without a big change if any kind happening you will either:

change nothing and muddle along miserably for years whilst he carries on the affair as long as OW lets him.

be left by him for OW when she gets fed up of waiting and gets brave or complacent enough to throw out ultimatums. That could be days, weeks or years. If it’s many years when you are older, starting again will be even scarier but you have no choice this time.

develop mental or even physical health problems caused by the latent ongoing stress of the suspicion and lack of relational safety.

finally realise you are wasting your life in misery and divorce him.

Over to you OP, there’s no more advice anyone can really give you, it’s all been pretty much said.

Isthiswhatmenthink · 20/06/2025 23:41

3luckystars · 20/06/2025 23:32

I’m not being rude. I’m utterly dumbfounded that an educated woman as yourself is believing everything he is saying without question. Why are you doing this?

There is no need to answer me, I’m just saying think about why you are allowing him to fool you. None of these little stories he is telling you make sense.

You are blindly believing someone who has previously lied.

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I don’t think she does believe it. Any of it. I think she knows he loves this woman, that he’s protecting this woman, that he’s in love with this woman, that he will do anything in his power to stay in this woman’s company… I think she knows that. But she’s so broken by the idea of ‘losing’ him that she’s hanging on for dear life, but a certain masochistic element is making her post on here the absolute gobshite he is spouting. This is possibly because her rational and educated mind is, while currently a minority, is still in there. Somewhere.

3luckystars · 20/06/2025 23:56

Sorry if I came across as rude.
I think I was trying to shake you.
when I should have hugged you.

You don’t deserve any of this. Talk to your children. All the very best to you x

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 20/06/2025 23:59

Isn't it amazing that this ' town ' with a population of what was it - 30,000 people has a university but doesn't have another law firm that could employ a criminal lawyer...

Bumblebeestiltskin · 21/06/2025 06:45

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 20/06/2025 23:59

Isn't it amazing that this ' town ' with a population of what was it - 30,000 people has a university but doesn't have another law firm that could employ a criminal lawyer...

Maybe it's because, despite his alleged 'seniority', his reputation as a sleaze who shags young women at work precedes him.

LaaLaaLady · 21/06/2025 06:54

You're putting the focus on her driving down the street, but you're still not focusing on the fact your husband is a lying, cheating scumbag. It's been months of this. Why do you keep updating the thread if you're not going to do anything to improve your situation?

IVbumble · 21/06/2025 07:20

Some people do not want to change the situation or indeed are able to take the steps required but they might want somewhere safe to share their thoughts.

boobot1 · 21/06/2025 08:06

You sound utterly deluded. He has shown you who he is repeatedly. Believe him. He wont change. Even if he gets a new job, thats just a new set of potential affair partners. You can not live like that. Get some self respect.

supercali77 · 21/06/2025 08:09

He's taking the piss. There's no reason he can't leave for a lower paid job or set up on his own as a criminal lawyer. Him not liking therapy isn't the point. True reconciliation involves the adulterer doing whatever it takes to make YOU comfortable.

I think you're in for an almighty shock one day.

Bleachbum · 21/06/2025 09:57

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 20/06/2025 23:59

Isn't it amazing that this ' town ' with a population of what was it - 30,000 people has a university but doesn't have another law firm that could employ a criminal lawyer...

I was thinking this. I was trying to think of a university town with a criminal court that isn’t big enough to have more than 1 law firm. I was stumped.

Starlia · 21/06/2025 10:08

@Strawberrina the fact that your children know about this situation is one of the saddest aspects of this. If my father was treating my mother this way. I’d be dragging him outside by the ear and telling him exactly what I thought of him, in the plainest terms possible.
I understand that you don’t have the fight in you right now to bin this disgraceful human being you’re married to, but why do your children accept this? Is this what they think relationships should look like?
because none of this is okay.

VicksJunkie · 21/06/2025 10:13

OP, is this your DH’s first affair? Or have there been others that you’ve similarly overlooked?

Volpini · 21/06/2025 10:17

Oh, OP, you sound in a complete mess.
I think you know you are in denial - which is why you keep posting here.

Im a similar age and have been with my DH a similar amount of time. I can understand what a kick in the head that would be if everything I thought I knew was shattered like this. My whole foundation and life. I do think I would react differently but of course you cannot know until you are in this yourself.

Two things stand out for me OP. Your posts read as very low energy/ passive. I appreciate this situation may have kicked confidence out of you but I wonder - have you always had low confidence? Have you always left decision making to him? In this situation he has been calling the shots: has this always been the case in your marriage? Because this feels to me a big part of why you are kind of paralysed in this situation. And perhaps why you are posting here. Do you have friends? Real friendships, not acquaintances? I can see if he has been your anchor and main confidante that you would be utterly lost without anyone else to speak to. I don’t mean this in a disparaging way, but it’s almost like without him to lean into you don’t know what to think. Has he always been a key influence in you figuring out what you think and feel?
in my opinion - if this is the case - that is a huge reason why speaking to someone in professional services and counselling would help you find your own foundations. Are you reluctant to do this because of the nature of his work? You read as quite isolated and I feel you really need this outside support to build yourself up. I’m also concerned by how little thought you seem to be giving to protecting yourself. You don’t need to answer me but I think you should give practical thought to what your financial situation would be if he suddenly left you.

The second thing is the staggering lack of meaningful effort by your husband to do anything at all to put anything right beyond a few half-hearted pats on the head.
He won’t find another job if he never applies will he? Pretends to end the affair but keeps it going.
Doesn’t want you to do anything to rock the boat. Doesnt want to do counselling because it’s not his thing. I can promise you one cast iron thing is that my husband would have zero choice in whether or not he attended counselling or not if he caused a problem of this magnitude in our marriage.
i have read all of your posts and the thing that hits me between the eyes is the staggering lack of effort to save his marriage or appreciate the pain he’s caused you.
He sounds like the laziest, most entitled, ambivalent arsehole who is riding the train as far as he can, for as little effort as he can, shagging who he can until his luck runs out. Which it will.

I can understand not wanting to “throw away” the nice life you have. But you do know this comfortable lifestyle is going to come crashing down when he eventually gets reported by colleagues or her and he gets paid off, right? If he had any sense he’d be looking to get out of that firm and get another even position if it’s lesser paid whilst he still can be employed in any capacity anywhere. The fact he won’t makes me suspect he’s got a reputation - maybe as an insufferable, complacent, entitled sleaze who is beyond lucky to have got where he is by sitting it out. He doesn’t sound like the kind who puts his back into his work - or anything.

Had his complacency rubbed off on you? I don’t hear anything about your own expectations. Nothing about why his behaviour isn’t good enough for you. You speak about hoping he’ll take this 5 Month sabbatical and forget all about her and then your marriage will instantly snap back to being wonderful. This is called magical thinking. Or a dream.
All marriages need more than crossed fingers to survive and marriages where deception and lies such as his need more structural engineering than most. Your husband’s equivalent to fighting to save it amounts to doing a bit more washing up than before (which was fuck all.) What does he actually bring to this marriage besides a big pay cheque? You could house share with a high earner and not have this anxiety, uncertainty or disrespect.

You sound sad and resigned to live out your marriage like this to a lazy, irresponsible and arrogant liar.
I hope I’m wrong but I can’t see how this whole thing isn’t on rails. I really hope you will at least head the pages of MN advice to get some professional advice so you aren’t still stuck in the headlights without a clue when your husband’s train wreck finally hits. Please also confide in someone trustworthy IRL who isn’t your lying self-serving OH. Sending you much-needed strength OP. I’m not telling you to LTB - because I don’t think you will. But I DO want you to find yourself.
good luck

SCWS · 21/06/2025 11:54

I had an affair that ended last May (he was caught out by his wife).

He’s still the first person I think of when I wake up in the morning. It’s been a year. I’ll never forget him.

That’s what happens when a relationship is forced to end by someone else (the scorned wife). The love isn’t ready to go away.

He’s not going to forget about her in five months if he loves her, like he’s already told you he does.

SCWS · 21/06/2025 11:57

GiantSaucepan · 20/06/2025 10:56

Wait, what? He’s a criminal lawyer and he’s saying he can’t possibly get a job anywhere else??

As a criminal lawyer, his income won’t be great enough to put up with this shit OP.

And yes, he can get a job elsewhere. He can bloody commute.

And you have NO grounds whatsoever for a restraining order.

EleanorRigby2U · 21/06/2025 20:43

Every post by the OP is like it’s been written by a bot. Where are the feelings? I’ve seen nothing about love or hurt or pain or anguish. Just a weird obsession with the OW and the desire to “win”. No sympathy now because both women are apparently willing participants in a human version of a tug-a-war. Whoever wins him in the end will be annoyed they got the prize

Starlight7080 · 21/06/2025 21:09

It sounds like he is telling you one thing and telling her something completely different.
Probably trying to keep her on side so she doesn't make work awkward for him.

andthat · 21/06/2025 21:50

Strawberrina · 24/04/2025 09:14

I was extremely upset last week when I found out, and he was devastated and remorseful. He swore it wouldn't happen again. He said that the OW was hitting on him (not an excuse, he is a grown man). He promised complete honesty and transparency and tells me what happens in the office each day.

Come on @Strawberrina, wise up.

he’s devastated because he’s been caught. Again.

And please don’t believe the bullshit you are being fed about her coming on to him….it makes him sound like he had no choice
in the matter!

You must really love him to put up with this total and utter bollocks. He’s making a fool of you.

Thewookiemustgo · 22/06/2025 00:26

SCWS · 21/06/2025 11:54

I had an affair that ended last May (he was caught out by his wife).

He’s still the first person I think of when I wake up in the morning. It’s been a year. I’ll never forget him.

That’s what happens when a relationship is forced to end by someone else (the scorned wife). The love isn’t ready to go away.

He’s not going to forget about her in five months if he loves her, like he’s already told you he does.

In your case his wife gave him an ultimatum and he chose her. The ‘scorned wife’ as you call her didn’t force him to do anything. She can’t make somebody stay with her who doesn’t want to. He wasn’t forced, he made a choice. And it doesn’t matter whatever reasons he’s told you as to why he ‘has to’ stay where he is, are all more important to him than the affair.
That’s what happened when her husband stood to lose her, despite the affair with you, whatever he felt for his wife hadn’t gone away. He didn’t want to lose it or his life with her.
Never listen to anybody’s words, especially not a man whom you know is a proven liar who will lie to get what he wants, you stood by and watched him do it to his wife and no doubt kept his secrets for him, so you have concrete proof of his dishonesty. Don’t think he would only lie to his wife but never to you, lying is a modus operandi for him, a means to an end. Everybody hears what they want to hear.
Words are cheap, you can say anything at no cost to yourself. Watch what people do, that’s where the truth lies, because actions speak louder than words and what they do is what they actually want.
No man who cheats is so noble as to give up the affair for higher reasons when his wife finds out, than that the shit hit the fan, his wife knows and he doesn’t want out of his marriage so the fun’s over. When forced to choose, he chose who and what he wanted when the chips are down. The love hasn’t gone away on your side because you chose him and didn’t want it to end. He had a choice and in the circumstances, he did.
Please don’t spend another year telling yourself it’s his ‘scorned wife’ s fault it ended. He had a choice. It is entirely his fault it ended because he chose to end it rather than continue it and lose her. Do you really want a man back whom you know, despite all he said, didn’t stay with you when he had to choose? Or a man who swears he loves you but is so weak that when his wife gives him
an ultimatum he feels forced to do exactly what she says at huge cost to you? That’s weakness, not love.
Grieve what you had with him, look up ‘limerance’ and how to move forward in a positive way. Your affair ended the way most do, because only a few make it into the real world when the shit hits the fan.
Most are fantasy secrets where people can reinvent themselves and enjoy the flattery and have the novelty of somebody new fawning over them. They need to say their home life is rubbish and they don’t love their wife because nobody would give tgem
the time of day if they said they just wanted excitement, not to yield their lives.
Kansas got boring for Dorothy and Oz was new and exciting and fun, but in the end when the chips were down there was no place like home and she longed for Kansas again.
I hope you find some peace and give your love to somebody who cares for you and deserves you and puts you first. Everyone deserves that.

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 22/06/2025 07:26

SCWS · 21/06/2025 11:54

I had an affair that ended last May (he was caught out by his wife).

He’s still the first person I think of when I wake up in the morning. It’s been a year. I’ll never forget him.

That’s what happens when a relationship is forced to end by someone else (the scorned wife). The love isn’t ready to go away.

He’s not going to forget about her in five months if he loves her, like he’s already told you he does.

The scorned wife. 😂

Allthegoodonesareg0ne · 22/06/2025 08:09

Thewookiemustgo · 22/06/2025 00:26

In your case his wife gave him an ultimatum and he chose her. The ‘scorned wife’ as you call her didn’t force him to do anything. She can’t make somebody stay with her who doesn’t want to. He wasn’t forced, he made a choice. And it doesn’t matter whatever reasons he’s told you as to why he ‘has to’ stay where he is, are all more important to him than the affair.
That’s what happened when her husband stood to lose her, despite the affair with you, whatever he felt for his wife hadn’t gone away. He didn’t want to lose it or his life with her.
Never listen to anybody’s words, especially not a man whom you know is a proven liar who will lie to get what he wants, you stood by and watched him do it to his wife and no doubt kept his secrets for him, so you have concrete proof of his dishonesty. Don’t think he would only lie to his wife but never to you, lying is a modus operandi for him, a means to an end. Everybody hears what they want to hear.
Words are cheap, you can say anything at no cost to yourself. Watch what people do, that’s where the truth lies, because actions speak louder than words and what they do is what they actually want.
No man who cheats is so noble as to give up the affair for higher reasons when his wife finds out, than that the shit hit the fan, his wife knows and he doesn’t want out of his marriage so the fun’s over. When forced to choose, he chose who and what he wanted when the chips are down. The love hasn’t gone away on your side because you chose him and didn’t want it to end. He had a choice and in the circumstances, he did.
Please don’t spend another year telling yourself it’s his ‘scorned wife’ s fault it ended. He had a choice. It is entirely his fault it ended because he chose to end it rather than continue it and lose her. Do you really want a man back whom you know, despite all he said, didn’t stay with you when he had to choose? Or a man who swears he loves you but is so weak that when his wife gives him
an ultimatum he feels forced to do exactly what she says at huge cost to you? That’s weakness, not love.
Grieve what you had with him, look up ‘limerance’ and how to move forward in a positive way. Your affair ended the way most do, because only a few make it into the real world when the shit hits the fan.
Most are fantasy secrets where people can reinvent themselves and enjoy the flattery and have the novelty of somebody new fawning over them. They need to say their home life is rubbish and they don’t love their wife because nobody would give tgem
the time of day if they said they just wanted excitement, not to yield their lives.
Kansas got boring for Dorothy and Oz was new and exciting and fun, but in the end when the chips were down there was no place like home and she longed for Kansas again.
I hope you find some peace and give your love to somebody who cares for you and deserves you and puts you first. Everyone deserves that.

Exactly this.

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