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Ruined my life for a man who turned out to be full of shit

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babs891 · 04/04/2025 18:01

In January of 24 I separated from my partner of 14 years. We have a DD (10) with complex health problems, cerebral palsy among other dx.

The split was amicable and we agreed there was no rush for either of us to move out, we get along well and share caring duties. We would put the house on the market in a years time.

In September I began seeing a man from work, albeit from a different department. I did tell XP after a few dates so he was aware. There was never any question of us getting back together. He was understanding and free to date himself.

So the colleague - It was quite intense, spending lots of time together, in contact all day every day. A bit too much perhaps, in hindsight.

After a couple of months he began saying he was struggling with the reality of me and XP sharing a house which is fair enough.

I spoke with XP and it was agreed he would start looking for somewhere 'now' rather than at the end of the year as planned.

Colleague started blowing hot and cold in the process, I didnt know where I stood from one minute to the other. He said he was depressed and it was because of my home situation. One minute he wanted to be with me now and the next he said he couldn't cope (but still kept contacting me daily, telling me he loved me and saying he was waiting for me so we could be together properly)

He said we could only be together once XP had moved out and he was applying pressure, constantly telling me it was impacting his mental health.

Fair enough though, I thought. It's not ideal circumstances and of course its going to be difficult for him.

I really felt like I'd fallen in love with him at this point. In hindsight I think I was love bombed.

I felt under pressure which had a knock on effect for XP so me and XP were no longer getting on.

Him moving out was expedited and he moved in somewhere crap and further away than planned, just to get it over and done with. Our previously positive co-parenting relationship broke down. I'm financially much worse off and doing the lions share of care on my own.

Colleague/bf was happy though. All going well with him, so I thought.

Until Sunday I was at his for a BBQ when he made a couple of comments that made me question where his mind was at. He said he liked us "just how we are"

So I initiated a "where is this heading then" conversation.. my jaw hit the floor when he said he didn't want to put a label on it. After months and months of future faking.

(Didn't want to commit and be exclusive basically - he lead me to believe we already were. I had met his family and friends. He'd met mine including DD)

I reminded him of all the things he'd said about us settling down together, living together in the future, he had mentioned marriage a good few times. I asked what on earth that was about.

He said that's just something he said at the time and joked that I'm like an elephant, I never forget things.

He's 42. I was not expecting any of this.

I left his place on Sunday feeling like I'd just had the rug pulled from under my feet. The last thing I said to him was that we might aswell leave it at that then, and I left upset.

I've been in bits ever since, barely sleeping, hardly eating. I've completely destabilised mine and DD's lives for nothing. I feel such a fool.

I saw him at work today for the first time since last week and my emotions got the better of me. He came over and I told him he was manipulative, he had strung me along for months and to move out of my way. A couple of other colleagues were around so I expect he's embarrassed.

He text me shortly after saying I had made it very awkward and he doesn't know what that was all about(?!) but yes he is calling it a day as he doesn't want "these issues" with me.

I've burst out crying infront of my line manager who took me aside when she noticed I wasn't myself. She was utterly lovely about it but I'm so embarrassed.

He doesn't see that he has done anything wrong.

Have I been completely gaslighted here or am I just a fucking moron myself?

I actually feel sick 😔

OP posts:
cramptramp · 04/04/2025 20:27

What a horrible pig he is. He just wanted his own way, now he’s got it he’s lost interest. Hope you’re ok OP.

Starlight7080 · 04/04/2025 20:39

Why would you put your child's well being behind that of this random man !
So selfish
What was best for her was not to have her dad further away and in living in a crap housing situation.
You cannot be so stupid that you blame this all on your new boyfriend. You have free will . A mind of your own . Common sense? At no point did these things kick in and you think about other people instead of yours and his new relationship.
What a fool
Bet you stick with him aswell

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 04/04/2025 20:43

babs891 · 04/04/2025 19:17

I feel terrible for XP. I wouldn't blame him if he wanted nothing more to do with me, DD aside.

I hope in time he is able to forgive me. The relationship wasn't fantastic but we did/do work well as friends. He's a very good father.

Funnily enough, he also said bf/colleague sounds like a narcissist.

Please apologise profusely to your XH who sounds like a good man.

Please be more careful in future. It boils my piss when men are so deceptive / but also when women are so quick to upend the lives of their children?! Just hold your our horses people! Saying this as a child of parents who each went off with other people when they’d barely broken up - and then again. It’s very confusing meeting a new “friend” and kids aren’t bloody stupid.

babs891 · 04/04/2025 20:47

Stick with him? You must be joking.

It will hurt for a while but ultimately I'll get over it. I'm concentrating on trying to undo the damage I've already caused. I wouldn't go back with him if my life was dependent on it.

OP posts:
CharityShopMensGlasses · 04/04/2025 20:48

Hope you can do some things to build yourself up again. He sounds truly awful 😔
A good time to reassess boundaries though especially around your daughter.
The recommended time for meeting kids is 9-12 months to try to avoid it all falling to bits like this.
Wishing you better luck in the futurw xx

Cancelthebreak · 04/04/2025 20:48

There seems to be some victim blaming going on here. The OP is taking responsibility for her behaviour but it is the man who has acted like a complete bastard and OP only made the mistake of taking him at face value.
I hope you are OK OP. You had a lucky escape as he could have moved in with you and made your life a misery.
I’m sure you can mend bridges with your ex if you apologise and admit you have treated him badly.
Hold your head up now and start planning a more positive future for you and your DD. Good luck xx

Cancelthebreak · 04/04/2025 20:49

Starlight7080 · 04/04/2025 20:39

Why would you put your child's well being behind that of this random man !
So selfish
What was best for her was not to have her dad further away and in living in a crap housing situation.
You cannot be so stupid that you blame this all on your new boyfriend. You have free will . A mind of your own . Common sense? At no point did these things kick in and you think about other people instead of yours and his new relationship.
What a fool
Bet you stick with him aswell

Don’t be such a spiteful twat.

Pudmyboy · 04/04/2025 20:51

Muffinmam · 04/04/2025 18:46

He’s a narcissist.

He wanted you to react to him being a twat so he could end it with you.

It sucks but it’s better it end with a narcissist before the abuse escalates - which it absolutely will.

I agree with this @babs891
That is why he can't see what he has done.
Please don't be hard on yourself, narcissists are very good at what they do.
Sorry you are getting so much grief on this thread too, I hope you have support in real life 💐

Codworddonkey · 04/04/2025 20:53

He’s a narcissist

crazzynut · 04/04/2025 20:54

You took the wrong mans side.
For once i read a thread that the ex is not to blame.
Op you had it good and fucked it up because you let a twat get in your head so start from the bottom and start again.
First would be block the dickhead.
Second would be an apology to your ex he deserves it.
Third build yourself up again and dont make the same mistake.

PerkyGreenCat · 04/04/2025 20:56

Ok, you seem aware that you've behaved appallingly. Your poor ex and child! MN would be out with the pitchforks if this had been the other way around. I'd be very interested to hear how you would have felt if your ex was bragging about a new girlfriend who he was spending lots of time with and then kicked you out of your home.

The work guy was always going to be full of shit. No one in a 6 month "whirlwind romance" whinges about mental health in that kind of manipulative way and demands you put them above your own child. Why the bloody hell would you introduce him to your kid and talk about marriage and living together when the relationship was so new? You were still living with your ex! Were you really going to get rid of the ex and move a new man in shortly after? What about your kid?

It sounds like you need therapy to look at your behaviour, why you were unable to see the red flags, why you put this random guy above your child and your ex life partner who you were trying to co-parent with. There's a lot of work that you need to do before you're ready to think about dating. And obviously a lot of apologising to your ex.

crazzynut · 04/04/2025 20:56

Cancelthebreak · 04/04/2025 20:49

Don’t be such a spiteful twat.

To be fair there is a point in it she cant blame just him she was part of it too.

Livingbytheocean · 04/04/2025 20:57

In your place I would invite xp over and apologise sincerely and genuinely over a glass of wine - explain that you were sucked in, taken advantage of and regret the problems it has caused ever since.

If he is open to moving back he can, and see what happens. Maybe it’s best you co parent and stay where you are for a while. No more boyfriends and just take your time recovering from all of this.

I am so sorry op, you are well shot. All of this can be fixed.

ThatRealBiscuit · 04/04/2025 20:57

Put yourself and your child first. Build up your self esteem and a settled home for your child. Your stronger than you think take one day at a time. You will get there it just takes timr

Cancelthebreak · 04/04/2025 20:58

crazzynut · 04/04/2025 20:56

To be fair there is a point in it she cant blame just him she was part of it too.

Did you even read the OP? She is taking responsibility for her behaviour so this victim blaming is so spiteful and unnecessary

crazzynut · 04/04/2025 20:58

PerkyGreenCat · 04/04/2025 20:56

Ok, you seem aware that you've behaved appallingly. Your poor ex and child! MN would be out with the pitchforks if this had been the other way around. I'd be very interested to hear how you would have felt if your ex was bragging about a new girlfriend who he was spending lots of time with and then kicked you out of your home.

The work guy was always going to be full of shit. No one in a 6 month "whirlwind romance" whinges about mental health in that kind of manipulative way and demands you put them above your own child. Why the bloody hell would you introduce him to your kid and talk about marriage and living together when the relationship was so new? You were still living with your ex! Were you really going to get rid of the ex and move a new man in shortly after? What about your kid?

It sounds like you need therapy to look at your behaviour, why you were unable to see the red flags, why you put this random guy above your child and your ex life partner who you were trying to co-parent with. There's a lot of work that you need to do before you're ready to think about dating. And obviously a lot of apologising to your ex.

Sums it up nicely i agree.

Beenthere100 · 04/04/2025 21:03

Ah, @babs891 , I really feel for you, and you have clearly learnt the hard way. Something very similar happened to me many years ago, and when I look back, I see
a) me, with lots of responsibilities and in a difficult situation, so keen for affection and intimacy which I'd all but given up on
b) a childless bachelor with no real comprehension of my life, urging me on regardless

It's frankly terrifying looking back. I have wasted countless hours trying to work out whether I was manipulated, or deluding myself the entire time, or some mix of the two. It made me lose confidence in my judgment and savviness. I still feel now like I can't trust myself with men, and for that reason I am still purely focused on family, hobbies and work now. I also see the world quite differently; I value character over charm. Mine was also a colleague, and I did have to cut contact entirely, other than the absolute bare minimum required over email. I don't know how he thought things would pan out at work, but I have to conclude that he wasn't thinking much at all. And I wasn't thinking very realistically either. It was like a mania. I feel very guilty now when I think how I put that mania above realistic considerations for my children. I just madly believed that love would conquer all.

So, hugs.

Mmhmmn · 04/04/2025 21:06

Sorry to see this OP. The lesson to take is never to let a man make you feel that you are responsible for his stated poor mental health even if he says you are. It is a giant red flag. We are each responsible for ourselves. You were in a quite complicated situation but managing it pretty well by the sound of it so you felt his requests were reasonable but he was power playing and manipulating you in saying you were negatively affecting his mental health. He is not a straightforward person. You will heal from this though, you're strong, you just need time. And don't be embarrassed - head up. You have nothing to be embarrassed about.

cannynotsay · 04/04/2025 21:12

I’m so sick of seeing these post where the women move so fast when they have kids, these men could be anything! you had it so good, a supportive ex and you made him leave for someone you just met. What the hell was you thinking!

roaringmouse · 04/04/2025 21:12

babs891 · 04/04/2025 18:38

I hold my hands up, I've been a total idiot and I'm so angry at myself.

I'm doing what I can to repair my co-parenting relationship with XP.

BF was introduced to DD as a friend but I appreciate that's besides the point. I also met his DC.

What goes on in the head of men that do this? I think it's very likely the case as suggested that he just liked the thrill of the chase and having control.

Sadly I think its more sinister than this. Yes, he liked having control, clearly, but he knew you had a special needs child to care for and badgered you to destabilise your living situation for no other reason than to have you bend to his will. He showed no love or care for you at all. He's a narcissist, but probably a sociopath.

Take care of yourself OP. You sound lovely, but a victim of coercive control. Take time to recover and dont be hard on yourself. He's a snake disguised as a person.

Pudmyboy · 04/04/2025 21:13

Just wanted to add a story about a work acquaintance, several decades ago. Married to her childhood sweetheart. One of the men at work pursued her relentlessly, nothing was too much trouble, kind, attentive, others at work commented that he must be in love with her by his behaviour. Eventually they had sex. She got an absolute cold shoulder from then on, shocked everyone who knew about it as it was a complete 180 degree turn around. She was devastated but able to save her marriage. Never got any resolution from him, he never acknowledged anything.

Beeloux · 04/04/2025 21:16

Sorry you’re going through this OP. Ds2 dad was very much like this and begging me to come off the pill and wanting to move in. I didn’t agree to moving in and continued to take my pill but fell pregnant a few months later and he flocked off with his mistress as soon as he found out.

Disappeared off the face of the earth a year ago and hasn’t asked about ds since. Last time I heard from him, he said we were never properly together therefore he hadn’t cheated. 🙄

Blackbookofsmiles1 · 04/04/2025 21:22

I’d be calling the ex and apologise and ask him to move back in, as then you will have help with the bills and be better off again and can repair the co parenting situation. If your both happy it’s over and you won’t be getting back together, I can’t see the harm in still living together as it’s hard paying bills on your own, he may be more than happy to move back in too.

Next time, any man with a problem….is not your problem, so dont put in the effort to fix it.

CuriouslyMinded · 04/04/2025 21:23

Dear OP, don't be so hard on yourself. You have been through a relationship breakdown, faced the prospect of selling your home, and you have the added pressures that come with caring for a child with additional needs. No wonder when a new, exciting man came along and love bombed you, you jumped in with both feet. It must have felt like finally something easy and positive and enlivening just for you.
The man who did this is clearly very, very immature and a bit mixed up - you really have had a lucky escape.
I do feel for your XP, but I also think you shouldn't give yourself too much of a kicking. You're human and you deserve love and fun and release from the mundane just as much as anyone does and I do not blame you for following it wholeheartedly. I hope you find someone who is more deserving of you.

Annascaul · 04/04/2025 21:24

Blackbookofsmiles1 · 04/04/2025 21:22

I’d be calling the ex and apologise and ask him to move back in, as then you will have help with the bills and be better off again and can repair the co parenting situation. If your both happy it’s over and you won’t be getting back together, I can’t see the harm in still living together as it’s hard paying bills on your own, he may be more than happy to move back in too.

Next time, any man with a problem….is not your problem, so dont put in the effort to fix it.

Maybe her dh won’t want to be burnt twice. Op isn’t in the driving seat anymore.

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