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Ruined my life for a man who turned out to be full of shit

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babs891 · 04/04/2025 18:01

In January of 24 I separated from my partner of 14 years. We have a DD (10) with complex health problems, cerebral palsy among other dx.

The split was amicable and we agreed there was no rush for either of us to move out, we get along well and share caring duties. We would put the house on the market in a years time.

In September I began seeing a man from work, albeit from a different department. I did tell XP after a few dates so he was aware. There was never any question of us getting back together. He was understanding and free to date himself.

So the colleague - It was quite intense, spending lots of time together, in contact all day every day. A bit too much perhaps, in hindsight.

After a couple of months he began saying he was struggling with the reality of me and XP sharing a house which is fair enough.

I spoke with XP and it was agreed he would start looking for somewhere 'now' rather than at the end of the year as planned.

Colleague started blowing hot and cold in the process, I didnt know where I stood from one minute to the other. He said he was depressed and it was because of my home situation. One minute he wanted to be with me now and the next he said he couldn't cope (but still kept contacting me daily, telling me he loved me and saying he was waiting for me so we could be together properly)

He said we could only be together once XP had moved out and he was applying pressure, constantly telling me it was impacting his mental health.

Fair enough though, I thought. It's not ideal circumstances and of course its going to be difficult for him.

I really felt like I'd fallen in love with him at this point. In hindsight I think I was love bombed.

I felt under pressure which had a knock on effect for XP so me and XP were no longer getting on.

Him moving out was expedited and he moved in somewhere crap and further away than planned, just to get it over and done with. Our previously positive co-parenting relationship broke down. I'm financially much worse off and doing the lions share of care on my own.

Colleague/bf was happy though. All going well with him, so I thought.

Until Sunday I was at his for a BBQ when he made a couple of comments that made me question where his mind was at. He said he liked us "just how we are"

So I initiated a "where is this heading then" conversation.. my jaw hit the floor when he said he didn't want to put a label on it. After months and months of future faking.

(Didn't want to commit and be exclusive basically - he lead me to believe we already were. I had met his family and friends. He'd met mine including DD)

I reminded him of all the things he'd said about us settling down together, living together in the future, he had mentioned marriage a good few times. I asked what on earth that was about.

He said that's just something he said at the time and joked that I'm like an elephant, I never forget things.

He's 42. I was not expecting any of this.

I left his place on Sunday feeling like I'd just had the rug pulled from under my feet. The last thing I said to him was that we might aswell leave it at that then, and I left upset.

I've been in bits ever since, barely sleeping, hardly eating. I've completely destabilised mine and DD's lives for nothing. I feel such a fool.

I saw him at work today for the first time since last week and my emotions got the better of me. He came over and I told him he was manipulative, he had strung me along for months and to move out of my way. A couple of other colleagues were around so I expect he's embarrassed.

He text me shortly after saying I had made it very awkward and he doesn't know what that was all about(?!) but yes he is calling it a day as he doesn't want "these issues" with me.

I've burst out crying infront of my line manager who took me aside when she noticed I wasn't myself. She was utterly lovely about it but I'm so embarrassed.

He doesn't see that he has done anything wrong.

Have I been completely gaslighted here or am I just a fucking moron myself?

I actually feel sick 😔

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welshcakesandtea · 04/04/2025 19:29

💐 flowers from a fellow idiot. I did something similar once (no kids thankfully). I completely turned my life upside down as I was given all the promises and lovebombing in the world and in two weeks they were back with their ex. It’s a few years behind me now but at the time I felt a right fool! You’ll be okay x

babs891 · 04/04/2025 19:29

Thank you for the kind words and reality check, lessons have been learned.

I'm still reeling from the sudden shift. Literally one hour before the "I like us as we are" talk we were laid up in bed talking about holidays. It's absolutely crazy making.

I think he probably has deluded himself that my emotional reaction is the problem and not his behaviour.

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Wakemeupbe4yougogo · 04/04/2025 19:33

We've all fallen for a wrong 'un at some point. Lick your wounds, grovel to your ex and try to be on stable ground before you even consider another relationship. And like a PP said, if someone mentions MH issues, run. Like the wind.

Ferniefernfernfern · 04/04/2025 19:37

babs891 · 04/04/2025 19:29

Thank you for the kind words and reality check, lessons have been learned.

I'm still reeling from the sudden shift. Literally one hour before the "I like us as we are" talk we were laid up in bed talking about holidays. It's absolutely crazy making.

I think he probably has deluded himself that my emotional reaction is the problem and not his behaviour.

Unfortunately you’re not going to figure him out. He’s just a really damaged person who doesn’t have the skills or ability to have a healthy relationship. I realize as someone who possesses empathy that’s extremely difficult to wrap your mind around, but he’s just not quite right in the head, sadly. Fortunately you’ve had enough respect for yourself to respond with appropriate outrage.

babs891 · 04/04/2025 19:37

Definitely.

I've no intention of dating again anytime soon.

God knows where to begin to put all of this right. I'm mortified about my display at work, I'm absolutely dreading Monday 😔

I don't think I'll be hearing from him again and that's just fine by me, horrible sod.

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Quitelikeit · 04/04/2025 19:39

You seem to be putting a lot of blame on this guy

You need to accept your own behaviour was quite appalling!

Your Ex was willing to do what was best for his child but you were not

You put your lust and desires ahead of what was best for her when in reality if this man was decent he would not have expected you to upend her life without there being a sensible plan in place.

It goes without saying you’d need to do a lot more care etc and that you’d suffer financially- or is he just dumb?

Anyway you made all of those decisions that affected your ex and your child and now you are all paying the price

What a lesson you’ve had

AnonAnonmystery · 04/04/2025 19:40

babs891 · 04/04/2025 18:38

I hold my hands up, I've been a total idiot and I'm so angry at myself.

I'm doing what I can to repair my co-parenting relationship with XP.

BF was introduced to DD as a friend but I appreciate that's besides the point. I also met his DC.

What goes on in the head of men that do this? I think it's very likely the case as suggested that he just liked the thrill of the chase and having control.

It was way too early introduce this man to your Dd and she is vulnerable! You thought you knew this man but you didn’t…for the future, leave boyfriends out of your child’s life. My dc meat my dp after 2.5years and I don’t overly blend him into my life with my kids. My time with his is seperate for most part. I hope you mend your relationship with your ex. I am sorry for you, what an awful lesson to learn :(

babs891 · 04/04/2025 19:40

Ferniefernfernfern · 04/04/2025 19:37

Unfortunately you’re not going to figure him out. He’s just a really damaged person who doesn’t have the skills or ability to have a healthy relationship. I realize as someone who possesses empathy that’s extremely difficult to wrap your mind around, but he’s just not quite right in the head, sadly. Fortunately you’ve had enough respect for yourself to respond with appropriate outrage.

I think you are spot on. He is definitely damaged and doesn't have the skills to have a healthy relationship. His communication was always piss poor. I could never discuss anything, he would immediately shut me down if it wasn't something he wanted to talk about / hear.

He doled out the silent treatment on occasion too. Man child.

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Grazyna80 · 04/04/2025 19:40

Narcissistic prick. So sorry . What an asshole.

Workoutrage · 04/04/2025 19:41

Quitelikeit · 04/04/2025 19:39

You seem to be putting a lot of blame on this guy

You need to accept your own behaviour was quite appalling!

Your Ex was willing to do what was best for his child but you were not

You put your lust and desires ahead of what was best for her when in reality if this man was decent he would not have expected you to upend her life without there being a sensible plan in place.

It goes without saying you’d need to do a lot more care etc and that you’d suffer financially- or is he just dumb?

Anyway you made all of those decisions that affected your ex and your child and now you are all paying the price

What a lesson you’ve had

Absolutely this! And so unprofessional work wise too - you can see now why some companies have a policy of no dating.

babs891 · 04/04/2025 19:42

Quitelikeit · 04/04/2025 19:39

You seem to be putting a lot of blame on this guy

You need to accept your own behaviour was quite appalling!

Your Ex was willing to do what was best for his child but you were not

You put your lust and desires ahead of what was best for her when in reality if this man was decent he would not have expected you to upend her life without there being a sensible plan in place.

It goes without saying you’d need to do a lot more care etc and that you’d suffer financially- or is he just dumb?

Anyway you made all of those decisions that affected your ex and your child and now you are all paying the price

What a lesson you’ve had

I'm blaming him for misleading me. The rest is on me.

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Cucy · 04/04/2025 19:42

I do think you’ve been an idiot for getting involved with someone from work, for rushing a relationship when your ex was still living with you, within less than 6 months talking about marriage and moving in together and because you were going to move a man in to your kids home that you barely knew just because you didn’t want to be alone etc.

You say he love bombed you etc but you have to take responsibility here too.
You were the one who chose to go the pace it went and create issues with your ex (who I feel really sorry for).

But the good news is that you and your ex were separated and he would have had to move out eventually.
So perhaps this man came into your life for this reason.

The other good thing, is that you have had a massive reality check and in the future you will be much more careful and take things much slower.
You need to be living alone and staying single.
Once you are happy being alone, then that is when you look for someone.

The big issue I can see is work.
Do you see him regularly at work?
I would try and avoid him as much as you can and if you see him try your best to ignore him.

researchers3 · 04/04/2025 19:46

babs891 · 04/04/2025 18:38

I hold my hands up, I've been a total idiot and I'm so angry at myself.

I'm doing what I can to repair my co-parenting relationship with XP.

BF was introduced to DD as a friend but I appreciate that's besides the point. I also met his DC.

What goes on in the head of men that do this? I think it's very likely the case as suggested that he just liked the thrill of the chase and having control.

Total narcissistic behaviour. Do not go back as he may well come back to play more games with you.

You've dodged a big old bullet only investing 6 months of your life with him.

Concentrate on your dd, yourself and reparations on co parenting with your ex. And check out Dr Ramani on YouTube...

Topseyt123 · 04/04/2025 19:47

I suspect you have dodged a bullet here.

He hadn't moved in before he showed his true colours, though it is not ideal that he had already been introduced to your DD. You know that though, and no point in beating yourself up over it. You aren't likely to make that mistake again.

I hope you can salvage something with your ex, it would be helpful to your DD at least.

babs891 · 04/04/2025 19:49

I do see him fairly often at work but I can mitigate that to some extent.

I do agree in seeing why alot of companies have a no dating policy. Having to see him in person going forward makes it a lot more complicated than it would otherwise be.

I think I will have to just walk past him as if he were a stranger 😔

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Annascaul · 04/04/2025 19:54

babs891 · 04/04/2025 19:40

I think you are spot on. He is definitely damaged and doesn't have the skills to have a healthy relationship. His communication was always piss poor. I could never discuss anything, he would immediately shut me down if it wasn't something he wanted to talk about / hear.

He doled out the silent treatment on occasion too. Man child.

And yet…. You changed three people’s lives on his say so.

babs891 · 04/04/2025 19:57

Annascaul · 04/04/2025 19:54

And yet…. You changed three people’s lives on his say so.

Yep, because I'm a fucking idiot

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Gettingbysomehow · 04/04/2025 19:58

He is an absolute sack of shit. He preyed on your vulnerability.

spicemaiden · 04/04/2025 20:01

Gaslighting bastard.

ClementineOJ · 04/04/2025 20:07

We all live in hope which is what you did. Don’t be too hard on yourself. You’ll grow from this.

Uricon2 · 04/04/2025 20:18

It is as well he didn't get to the stage of having a closer relationship with your DD or worse, move in. Look on that as a positive and try to cope with the embarrassment and rebuild a working relationship with your ex. Men (people generally) can only be judged by deeds not words but I reckon you've realised that now.

theworldie · 04/04/2025 20:20

Ferniefernfernfern · 04/04/2025 19:37

Unfortunately you’re not going to figure him out. He’s just a really damaged person who doesn’t have the skills or ability to have a healthy relationship. I realize as someone who possesses empathy that’s extremely difficult to wrap your mind around, but he’s just not quite right in the head, sadly. Fortunately you’ve had enough respect for yourself to respond with appropriate outrage.

Absolutely this ⬆️

Ive been there OP, a married man who swore blind his relationship was over/they were getting divorced/she was seeing other people and they were friends. He took me to his home, introduced me to his colleagues and friends and walked around the village he lives in holding my hand etc. i had no reason to believe he wasn't genuine and I felt like he was the nicest person I'd ever met. He claimed to be in love with me, texted 50 times a day, poems, gifts the works.
Long story short, his wife found out and he just ghosted me basically. Completely threw me under the bud and painted me to be a psycho. They were actually very much together and she knew nothing about me.

I now realise it was all future faking and lovebombing. They get off on manipulating people - they're incapable of love. Wolves in sheeps clothing and it takes a long time to get over it, it's a real head fuck.

He was a textbook covert narc but unfortunately I didn't realise it at the time.

People who haven't met these types don't understand - they're completely charming and manipulative but in an oblique way. You don't suspect at all until:the rug's been pulled from under you.

Much better you're out now before you've made financial commitments or involved your dd. I thank the lord now his wife uncovered his affair and therefore I found out who he really was before I'd really let him inveigle himself into my life. They're sick people and when you're "normal" it's hard to believe that people with these personality defects actually exist.

Annascaul · 04/04/2025 20:22

theworldie · 04/04/2025 20:20

Absolutely this ⬆️

Ive been there OP, a married man who swore blind his relationship was over/they were getting divorced/she was seeing other people and they were friends. He took me to his home, introduced me to his colleagues and friends and walked around the village he lives in holding my hand etc. i had no reason to believe he wasn't genuine and I felt like he was the nicest person I'd ever met. He claimed to be in love with me, texted 50 times a day, poems, gifts the works.
Long story short, his wife found out and he just ghosted me basically. Completely threw me under the bud and painted me to be a psycho. They were actually very much together and she knew nothing about me.

I now realise it was all future faking and lovebombing. They get off on manipulating people - they're incapable of love. Wolves in sheeps clothing and it takes a long time to get over it, it's a real head fuck.

He was a textbook covert narc but unfortunately I didn't realise it at the time.

People who haven't met these types don't understand - they're completely charming and manipulative but in an oblique way. You don't suspect at all until:the rug's been pulled from under you.

Much better you're out now before you've made financial commitments or involved your dd. I thank the lord now his wife uncovered his affair and therefore I found out who he really was before I'd really let him inveigle himself into my life. They're sick people and when you're "normal" it's hard to believe that people with these personality defects actually exist.

Op doesn’t paint a picture of a “completely charming” man.

ladeedarrrry · 04/04/2025 20:26

People having a go at the op are being really harsh. Her ex was moving out anyway it’s not like she broke up the family unit, all that happened is that it happened sooner than agreed due to the scumbag she had the misfortune to meet.

I am sorry op. Life must be tough too with your dc having additional needs. You sound like are getting things back on track with your ex and repairing that relationship. You sound like you’ve got a lovely heart.

babs891 · 04/04/2025 20:26

These replies mean so much, thank you 🥺

He was completely charming to begin with, that's the thing. Aren't they all?

By the time his other traits, or the real him, started to show itself I was already invested and had convinced myself I loved him.

Thankfully I've lost the blinkers and can see it for what it was now.

If he were to call me tomorrow I wouldn't even answer the phone. I want nothing more to do with him.

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