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Ruined my life for a man who turned out to be full of shit

379 replies

babs891 · 04/04/2025 18:01

In January of 24 I separated from my partner of 14 years. We have a DD (10) with complex health problems, cerebral palsy among other dx.

The split was amicable and we agreed there was no rush for either of us to move out, we get along well and share caring duties. We would put the house on the market in a years time.

In September I began seeing a man from work, albeit from a different department. I did tell XP after a few dates so he was aware. There was never any question of us getting back together. He was understanding and free to date himself.

So the colleague - It was quite intense, spending lots of time together, in contact all day every day. A bit too much perhaps, in hindsight.

After a couple of months he began saying he was struggling with the reality of me and XP sharing a house which is fair enough.

I spoke with XP and it was agreed he would start looking for somewhere 'now' rather than at the end of the year as planned.

Colleague started blowing hot and cold in the process, I didnt know where I stood from one minute to the other. He said he was depressed and it was because of my home situation. One minute he wanted to be with me now and the next he said he couldn't cope (but still kept contacting me daily, telling me he loved me and saying he was waiting for me so we could be together properly)

He said we could only be together once XP had moved out and he was applying pressure, constantly telling me it was impacting his mental health.

Fair enough though, I thought. It's not ideal circumstances and of course its going to be difficult for him.

I really felt like I'd fallen in love with him at this point. In hindsight I think I was love bombed.

I felt under pressure which had a knock on effect for XP so me and XP were no longer getting on.

Him moving out was expedited and he moved in somewhere crap and further away than planned, just to get it over and done with. Our previously positive co-parenting relationship broke down. I'm financially much worse off and doing the lions share of care on my own.

Colleague/bf was happy though. All going well with him, so I thought.

Until Sunday I was at his for a BBQ when he made a couple of comments that made me question where his mind was at. He said he liked us "just how we are"

So I initiated a "where is this heading then" conversation.. my jaw hit the floor when he said he didn't want to put a label on it. After months and months of future faking.

(Didn't want to commit and be exclusive basically - he lead me to believe we already were. I had met his family and friends. He'd met mine including DD)

I reminded him of all the things he'd said about us settling down together, living together in the future, he had mentioned marriage a good few times. I asked what on earth that was about.

He said that's just something he said at the time and joked that I'm like an elephant, I never forget things.

He's 42. I was not expecting any of this.

I left his place on Sunday feeling like I'd just had the rug pulled from under my feet. The last thing I said to him was that we might aswell leave it at that then, and I left upset.

I've been in bits ever since, barely sleeping, hardly eating. I've completely destabilised mine and DD's lives for nothing. I feel such a fool.

I saw him at work today for the first time since last week and my emotions got the better of me. He came over and I told him he was manipulative, he had strung me along for months and to move out of my way. A couple of other colleagues were around so I expect he's embarrassed.

He text me shortly after saying I had made it very awkward and he doesn't know what that was all about(?!) but yes he is calling it a day as he doesn't want "these issues" with me.

I've burst out crying infront of my line manager who took me aside when she noticed I wasn't myself. She was utterly lovely about it but I'm so embarrassed.

He doesn't see that he has done anything wrong.

Have I been completely gaslighted here or am I just a fucking moron myself?

I actually feel sick 😔

OP posts:
aeon418 · 05/04/2025 22:14

babs891 · 05/04/2025 00:52

Well no shit.

Except it didn't feel that way at the time. I was under the impression I was in an exclusive relationship, in which case XP and I needed to assess the living arrangements anyway.

The plan was always to sell up eventually. All this did was accelerate things, as PP pointed out.

If the relationship with the boyfriend had legs then that would have been the right decision, albeit less rushed.

It just so happens that this bloke turned out to be a bad apple and therefore it was all for nothing.

I couldn't feel any worse if I tried. I've been in bits all week, not out of self pity but sheer disbelief and anger at myself.

These things happen for a reason. I suspect you will find later that the physical and financial spilt was needed.

For instance, when and if your ex gets involved with someone who is to say that you would have continued to have such an amicable split. Perhaps he would not be handling a new partner’s demands any better than you did. Maybe even worse.

Ignore all the negative people that get their kicks making others feel like crap so they can feel smug and self satisfied.

Forgive yourself and move on.

Yourcatisnotsorry · 05/04/2025 22:34

No. 1 priority should always be DD. You’ve had a lucky escape from this tosser let this be a lesson for how you make decisions going forward and prioritize stability and happiness for her over romance. I’d imagine you can rebuild your amicable co parenting relationship with your ex if you try hard enough, all is not lost.

changeme4this · 05/04/2025 22:34

One of our single (early 60’s) male friends does this, all the while there’s a challenge he remains very interested but when the relationship should be on even ground, it doesn’t last long and he crashes and burns it.

I don’t know if he sees the pattern. He has told DH he likes living on his own so maybe it’s entertaining in some respect for him. Not sure.

nothing will ever change for him and otherwise I find him a decent person…

Laurmolonlabe · 05/04/2025 22:43

Someone who uses their "mental health" in order to get exactly what they want is basically a narcissist- he is not interested in anybody but himself, and sees nothing wrong in that.
Back before the pandemic it would have been much harder for him to use the "mental health" card- it's always a red flag, this is not a young confused man, this is a man who will say anything it takes to get what he wants.
The sort of intensity you experienced is unusual in a relationship in middle age, should have given you pause for thought- why was he unhappy with you living in the same house as your XP? Even the most positive spin suggested he was saying he didn't trust you, this should have been alarm bells.
You let him call the shots from the beginning, very dangerous, and made you easy to manipulate- remember for next time.

Flissty · 05/04/2025 23:06

Please be kind to yourself. It’s easy to make mistakes when someone you trust is manipulating you. Please don’t feel you’ve upended your daughter’s life. You can still be an excellent mother and co-parent - please don’t feel like you’ve failed here; you’ve BEEN failed. Good luck now you are moving on x

Isamummy2021 · 05/04/2025 23:14

babs891 · 04/04/2025 18:01

In January of 24 I separated from my partner of 14 years. We have a DD (10) with complex health problems, cerebral palsy among other dx.

The split was amicable and we agreed there was no rush for either of us to move out, we get along well and share caring duties. We would put the house on the market in a years time.

In September I began seeing a man from work, albeit from a different department. I did tell XP after a few dates so he was aware. There was never any question of us getting back together. He was understanding and free to date himself.

So the colleague - It was quite intense, spending lots of time together, in contact all day every day. A bit too much perhaps, in hindsight.

After a couple of months he began saying he was struggling with the reality of me and XP sharing a house which is fair enough.

I spoke with XP and it was agreed he would start looking for somewhere 'now' rather than at the end of the year as planned.

Colleague started blowing hot and cold in the process, I didnt know where I stood from one minute to the other. He said he was depressed and it was because of my home situation. One minute he wanted to be with me now and the next he said he couldn't cope (but still kept contacting me daily, telling me he loved me and saying he was waiting for me so we could be together properly)

He said we could only be together once XP had moved out and he was applying pressure, constantly telling me it was impacting his mental health.

Fair enough though, I thought. It's not ideal circumstances and of course its going to be difficult for him.

I really felt like I'd fallen in love with him at this point. In hindsight I think I was love bombed.

I felt under pressure which had a knock on effect for XP so me and XP were no longer getting on.

Him moving out was expedited and he moved in somewhere crap and further away than planned, just to get it over and done with. Our previously positive co-parenting relationship broke down. I'm financially much worse off and doing the lions share of care on my own.

Colleague/bf was happy though. All going well with him, so I thought.

Until Sunday I was at his for a BBQ when he made a couple of comments that made me question where his mind was at. He said he liked us "just how we are"

So I initiated a "where is this heading then" conversation.. my jaw hit the floor when he said he didn't want to put a label on it. After months and months of future faking.

(Didn't want to commit and be exclusive basically - he lead me to believe we already were. I had met his family and friends. He'd met mine including DD)

I reminded him of all the things he'd said about us settling down together, living together in the future, he had mentioned marriage a good few times. I asked what on earth that was about.

He said that's just something he said at the time and joked that I'm like an elephant, I never forget things.

He's 42. I was not expecting any of this.

I left his place on Sunday feeling like I'd just had the rug pulled from under my feet. The last thing I said to him was that we might aswell leave it at that then, and I left upset.

I've been in bits ever since, barely sleeping, hardly eating. I've completely destabilised mine and DD's lives for nothing. I feel such a fool.

I saw him at work today for the first time since last week and my emotions got the better of me. He came over and I told him he was manipulative, he had strung me along for months and to move out of my way. A couple of other colleagues were around so I expect he's embarrassed.

He text me shortly after saying I had made it very awkward and he doesn't know what that was all about(?!) but yes he is calling it a day as he doesn't want "these issues" with me.

I've burst out crying infront of my line manager who took me aside when she noticed I wasn't myself. She was utterly lovely about it but I'm so embarrassed.

He doesn't see that he has done anything wrong.

Have I been completely gaslighted here or am I just a fucking moron myself?

I actually feel sick 😔

Sounds like you have been taken for a real ride. This guy is full of shit he's enjoyed taking you along for fun. Lesson learned a hard one. Best thing you can do is move on don't waste another second on him focus on your child and help your ex. Sell the house as agreed so he can find something suitable closer grovel and tell him how sorry you are and make it right for your child. My advice never get caught in the high you find out who a person is about 6 to 8 months into a relationship you now know. Hope you are ok.

pineapplesundae · 05/04/2025 23:20

I think he was telling you those things to keep you at bay but you took his meaning literally. That's unfortunate. I hope your xp will forgive and repair your relationship.

spicemaiden · 05/04/2025 23:50

BoldAmberDuck · 05/04/2025 22:03

I think I’d be trying to repair the previous relationship now. Your daughter needs you both. Maybe you can justify it as a moment of madness, menopause or something. Certainly no more time wasted on this work colleague. So sad he’s come along and uprooted all your entire lives with love bombing and nonsense.

Did you read the part where the relationship ended because he cheated on her?

Co or want, yes. ‘Rebuild a relationship’? He burned that ship when he treated OP like shit.

she deserves better.

CaptainFuture · 06/04/2025 00:07

spicemaiden · 05/04/2025 23:50

Did you read the part where the relationship ended because he cheated on her?

Co or want, yes. ‘Rebuild a relationship’? He burned that ship when he treated OP like shit.

she deserves better.

The XP of 14 years didn't cheat? It was amicable with sharing the family home and child care till the OP wanted to make the XP leave and move out to make her partner of 9 months happy?

SaraSunny · 06/04/2025 00:18

babs891 · 04/04/2025 18:01

In January of 24 I separated from my partner of 14 years. We have a DD (10) with complex health problems, cerebral palsy among other dx.

The split was amicable and we agreed there was no rush for either of us to move out, we get along well and share caring duties. We would put the house on the market in a years time.

In September I began seeing a man from work, albeit from a different department. I did tell XP after a few dates so he was aware. There was never any question of us getting back together. He was understanding and free to date himself.

So the colleague - It was quite intense, spending lots of time together, in contact all day every day. A bit too much perhaps, in hindsight.

After a couple of months he began saying he was struggling with the reality of me and XP sharing a house which is fair enough.

I spoke with XP and it was agreed he would start looking for somewhere 'now' rather than at the end of the year as planned.

Colleague started blowing hot and cold in the process, I didnt know where I stood from one minute to the other. He said he was depressed and it was because of my home situation. One minute he wanted to be with me now and the next he said he couldn't cope (but still kept contacting me daily, telling me he loved me and saying he was waiting for me so we could be together properly)

He said we could only be together once XP had moved out and he was applying pressure, constantly telling me it was impacting his mental health.

Fair enough though, I thought. It's not ideal circumstances and of course its going to be difficult for him.

I really felt like I'd fallen in love with him at this point. In hindsight I think I was love bombed.

I felt under pressure which had a knock on effect for XP so me and XP were no longer getting on.

Him moving out was expedited and he moved in somewhere crap and further away than planned, just to get it over and done with. Our previously positive co-parenting relationship broke down. I'm financially much worse off and doing the lions share of care on my own.

Colleague/bf was happy though. All going well with him, so I thought.

Until Sunday I was at his for a BBQ when he made a couple of comments that made me question where his mind was at. He said he liked us "just how we are"

So I initiated a "where is this heading then" conversation.. my jaw hit the floor when he said he didn't want to put a label on it. After months and months of future faking.

(Didn't want to commit and be exclusive basically - he lead me to believe we already were. I had met his family and friends. He'd met mine including DD)

I reminded him of all the things he'd said about us settling down together, living together in the future, he had mentioned marriage a good few times. I asked what on earth that was about.

He said that's just something he said at the time and joked that I'm like an elephant, I never forget things.

He's 42. I was not expecting any of this.

I left his place on Sunday feeling like I'd just had the rug pulled from under my feet. The last thing I said to him was that we might aswell leave it at that then, and I left upset.

I've been in bits ever since, barely sleeping, hardly eating. I've completely destabilised mine and DD's lives for nothing. I feel such a fool.

I saw him at work today for the first time since last week and my emotions got the better of me. He came over and I told him he was manipulative, he had strung me along for months and to move out of my way. A couple of other colleagues were around so I expect he's embarrassed.

He text me shortly after saying I had made it very awkward and he doesn't know what that was all about(?!) but yes he is calling it a day as he doesn't want "these issues" with me.

I've burst out crying infront of my line manager who took me aside when she noticed I wasn't myself. She was utterly lovely about it but I'm so embarrassed.

He doesn't see that he has done anything wrong.

Have I been completely gaslighted here or am I just a fucking moron myself?

I actually feel sick 😔

I think you have done the right thing by calling him out over it. His loss.

Onwards and upwards now.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 06/04/2025 00:20

CaptainFuture · 06/04/2025 00:07

The XP of 14 years didn't cheat? It was amicable with sharing the family home and child care till the OP wanted to make the XP leave and move out to make her partner of 9 months happy?

If you read the OP's posts, he absolutely did cheat! The relationship did not recover.

CaptainFuture · 06/04/2025 00:22

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 06/04/2025 00:20

If you read the OP's posts, he absolutely did cheat! The relationship did not recover.

Edited

Where and when?

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 06/04/2025 00:23

Look it up yourself. I'm not doing it for you!

ClaytonGirl · 06/04/2025 00:34

What's done is done. Love is blind etc. Repair relationship with ex for parenting, but no future boyfriend would be happy for you to live with husband still. Forge your own path forwards, including DD. Use head as much as heart and have fun but protect yourselves from this happening again. Wishing you luck

Yeshellothere · 06/04/2025 01:01

I'm sorry you're going through this OP. It sounds like he gaslighted you. I've just stopped seeing a man because he gaslighted me. Different scenario but still gaslighting.

Hollowoman · 06/04/2025 01:52

Yep. Think of it as having fallen over and cut your knee: it'll take a while to heal.

Candy24 · 06/04/2025 03:10

Annascaul · 04/04/2025 18:05

You changed something which worked well for you and your ex, for the benefit of this guy’s mental health Confused
All else flows from that, really.

This. Im actually in shock.

CharityShopMensGlasses · 06/04/2025 06:31

I did date two dodgy men one after another for a few weeks each post divorce so I do have compassion for you. I think it does mess your head up. I wish I hadn't dated them, both were so far from what I would choose in my normal thinking state.

Fortunately I was so terrified of paedophile step dads that I had super high boundaries so neither of them knew my address, and so obvs didn't come to my house. It was such a relief that they didn't know this once I came to my senses. I know people say don't live in fear but actually a little bit of fear kept me safe, and it is true that bringing a step dad into the kids lives is one of the most risky things we can do.
So I'd advise fairly high walls however someone seems and however you feel about them going forwards. Let's be real here, all of our children are at risk but a disabled child is obviously particularly vulnerable so I also think being really mindful of the risks would help protect you from this kind of man in the future xx

NavyBee · 06/04/2025 06:40

At least your eyes are open now, and you haven't compromised what's important to you by accepting a non-exclusive relationship. Don't be too hard on yourself it does sound as if he love bombed you and you will have been vulnerable after separating from your XP and having the extra stress of looking after your special needs child. Be kind to yourself as you would be to a friend in the same position and just resolve to learn from this experience.

babs891 · 06/04/2025 07:15

Thank you for all of the supportive advice and well wishes. I'm still feeling blindsided but I've eaten and slept a little better since yesterday so that's something atleast.

I have a busy week ahead so I'm hoping that keeping myself occupied will help to put him out of my mind for a bit.

OP posts:
ladeedarrrry · 06/04/2025 07:23

Candy24 · 06/04/2025 03:10

This. Im actually in shock.

Oh bore off! He was moving out anyway AND he cheated on her - stop your pearl clutching

TheHerboriste · 06/04/2025 07:26

Never organize your life around a man, especially if you have responsibilities to a child. I would suggest counseling to explore why on earth you were willing to do that.

Mamma1982 · 06/04/2025 07:34

If your ExP is living in worse conditions and not seeing your DD could you try and live together again? I know it’s not ideal but this would put me off being with another man again. They can be selfish and put their own needs first. In your daughter’s case you need someone who understands even more. Think you need to apologise to exP for getting it so wrong and see if you can salvage anything again by turning it all around.

BoldAmberDuck · 06/04/2025 07:54

spicemaiden · 05/04/2025 23:50

Did you read the part where the relationship ended because he cheated on her?

Co or want, yes. ‘Rebuild a relationship’? He burned that ship when he treated OP like shit.

she deserves better.

No I didn’t see that bit

Nikki7506 · 06/04/2025 08:36

Listen, you fell for a fella who's a total arse......many of us on here have done it!
Me included. When your feel alone and someone offers you love, it's wonderful.
I am a special needs mummy too.......living with my ex. I've been sleeping on the sofa since August 2022.......waiting for social housing. We got together in 2007.
What I've realised is I need to love myself because I'll never find a man who doesn't love himself more than me.
I know life is so hard as a special needs parent but trust me, you have more love in your life than you realise. Definitely great you're building bridges with the ex xxx