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Ruined my life for a man who turned out to be full of shit

379 replies

babs891 · 04/04/2025 18:01

In January of 24 I separated from my partner of 14 years. We have a DD (10) with complex health problems, cerebral palsy among other dx.

The split was amicable and we agreed there was no rush for either of us to move out, we get along well and share caring duties. We would put the house on the market in a years time.

In September I began seeing a man from work, albeit from a different department. I did tell XP after a few dates so he was aware. There was never any question of us getting back together. He was understanding and free to date himself.

So the colleague - It was quite intense, spending lots of time together, in contact all day every day. A bit too much perhaps, in hindsight.

After a couple of months he began saying he was struggling with the reality of me and XP sharing a house which is fair enough.

I spoke with XP and it was agreed he would start looking for somewhere 'now' rather than at the end of the year as planned.

Colleague started blowing hot and cold in the process, I didnt know where I stood from one minute to the other. He said he was depressed and it was because of my home situation. One minute he wanted to be with me now and the next he said he couldn't cope (but still kept contacting me daily, telling me he loved me and saying he was waiting for me so we could be together properly)

He said we could only be together once XP had moved out and he was applying pressure, constantly telling me it was impacting his mental health.

Fair enough though, I thought. It's not ideal circumstances and of course its going to be difficult for him.

I really felt like I'd fallen in love with him at this point. In hindsight I think I was love bombed.

I felt under pressure which had a knock on effect for XP so me and XP were no longer getting on.

Him moving out was expedited and he moved in somewhere crap and further away than planned, just to get it over and done with. Our previously positive co-parenting relationship broke down. I'm financially much worse off and doing the lions share of care on my own.

Colleague/bf was happy though. All going well with him, so I thought.

Until Sunday I was at his for a BBQ when he made a couple of comments that made me question where his mind was at. He said he liked us "just how we are"

So I initiated a "where is this heading then" conversation.. my jaw hit the floor when he said he didn't want to put a label on it. After months and months of future faking.

(Didn't want to commit and be exclusive basically - he lead me to believe we already were. I had met his family and friends. He'd met mine including DD)

I reminded him of all the things he'd said about us settling down together, living together in the future, he had mentioned marriage a good few times. I asked what on earth that was about.

He said that's just something he said at the time and joked that I'm like an elephant, I never forget things.

He's 42. I was not expecting any of this.

I left his place on Sunday feeling like I'd just had the rug pulled from under my feet. The last thing I said to him was that we might aswell leave it at that then, and I left upset.

I've been in bits ever since, barely sleeping, hardly eating. I've completely destabilised mine and DD's lives for nothing. I feel such a fool.

I saw him at work today for the first time since last week and my emotions got the better of me. He came over and I told him he was manipulative, he had strung me along for months and to move out of my way. A couple of other colleagues were around so I expect he's embarrassed.

He text me shortly after saying I had made it very awkward and he doesn't know what that was all about(?!) but yes he is calling it a day as he doesn't want "these issues" with me.

I've burst out crying infront of my line manager who took me aside when she noticed I wasn't myself. She was utterly lovely about it but I'm so embarrassed.

He doesn't see that he has done anything wrong.

Have I been completely gaslighted here or am I just a fucking moron myself?

I actually feel sick 😔

OP posts:
mainecooncatonahottinroof · 05/04/2025 18:59

Evan456 · 05/04/2025 18:25

Get your ex to move back in as he’s living somewhere shit

Why would she want the cheater back? He needed gone anyway. That's one benefit out of the situation.

Crackanut · 05/04/2025 18:59

Alwayscomplicated123 · 05/04/2025 18:28

So you totally shat on your ex and you ended up getting dumped. I don’t want to laugh but can’t help it.

You've got a damn cheek. You've got a thread about your DP being depressed and pining for his ex. Get back in your box.

joliefolle · 05/04/2025 19:02

"a bit concerned" about a post from the OP defending herself in a bear pit 🙄

Goldyyup · 05/04/2025 19:02

Crackanut · 05/04/2025 18:59

You've got a damn cheek. You've got a thread about your DP being depressed and pining for his ex. Get back in your box.

😂This really made me laugh!

Goldyyup · 05/04/2025 19:04

caringcarer · 05/04/2025 18:59

Apologis to your Husband and ask if he can move back in to share care of your disabled DC. Concentrate on your DC. Give her stability. No rush to get into a new relationship. If living with your exh works for you, him and your DC then go back to this if your exh will agree.

He was not her husband. He was her partner.

ChessorBuckaroo · 05/04/2025 19:05

Goldyyup · 05/04/2025 19:02

😂This really made me laugh!

Me too! 😂

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 05/04/2025 19:07

ChessorBuckaroo · 05/04/2025 19:05

Me too! 😂

And me 😂

Realitea · 05/04/2025 19:21

I feel like you jumped into another situationship very soon after separating from your exdh. This might be why your judgements were clouded when he started behaving like that. I would apologise to your ex and try to reform some sort of co parenting plan. Stay away from other men for a while (especially the colleague) as from my experience, they all seem to have their issues and you need to focus on yourself and your daughter.

laraitopbanana · 05/04/2025 19:25

JungAtHeart · 05/04/2025 18:23

I totally empathise OP. My marriage ended in December after seven years together because my soon to be exH couldn’t handle that my DDs will ‘always need me’. They were seven and eight when we met. Some people we are so much better off without! In the last four months I’ve completely stopped making it about him and really looked at myself. Why would I be attracted to someone who made me feel emotionally unsafe all the time??? Why didn’t I walk away at all the earlier red flags? He’s a loser who doesn’t deserve to live in your head.

I am sorry you went through this.

Good on you to coming out stronger.

🌺

spicemaiden · 05/04/2025 19:26

caringcarer · 05/04/2025 18:59

Apologis to your Husband and ask if he can move back in to share care of your disabled DC. Concentrate on your DC. Give her stability. No rush to get into a new relationship. If living with your exh works for you, him and your DC then go back to this if your exh will agree.

HE CHEATED ON HER.

Him moving out is literally the one good thing out of this situation.

ThreeLocusts · 05/04/2025 19:39

Dear oh dear OP. Not mumsnet's finest monent, this thread. What on earth is snoopdoggydog made of? Why go online just to judge people.

You hung on so long after xp's cheating, you must have felt starved for the companyof someone who hadn't cheated on you. You were vulnerable to love bombing. Don't kick yourself.

I hope you can work things out now with xp, co-parent peacefully and heal. Hats off for not taking bullshit from that twat, I'm not sure I would have had your presence of mind.

YourBestFriend · 05/04/2025 19:39

What a monumental clusterfuck, OP. You'd better up your game. You have a daughter with special health needs, for goodness sake. You can't just go around playing the Russian roulette like that, inviting men that you have just met into your life.

Evan456 · 05/04/2025 19:44

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 05/04/2025 18:59

Why would she want the cheater back? He needed gone anyway. That's one benefit out of the situation.

No not the cheater the one ex she that she got on with and had a good relationship with

Hollowoman · 05/04/2025 19:45

JazzyBBBG · 04/04/2025 18:05

He's a mind games playing tosser who you are better off without. Suspect it's all about power and control and he has possibly met someone else if he's lost interest this quickly. That or he just wanted the power to shift your ex out. Focus on rebuilding your life and salvaging your amicable relationship with ex.

I'm so sorry but you were taken advantage off at a really vulnerable time. I agree with what JazzyBBG said. Please take her advice.

Mindy78 · 05/04/2025 19:49

At least you realized it before you ended up married to him. I did worse than that. So, don't worry. I cheated on my husband because he wasn't being romantic. He wasn't being intimate with me. There is no valid reason for cheating. Well, I did. Of course, we ended up divorcing but I never felt secure after that. I had anxiety and panic attacks at the extreme point. To forget this depression, which I obviously deserved, I remarried. I've lost everything, my home, my daughter (because she decided to stay with her dad), my sanity, my health. I regret everything but it's no help now. I cry every single day, the prayer I hear 5 times each day (I live near a mosque) reminds me of my sins. I talk to God every day asking for forgiveness. My conscience hurts day and night. I can't sleep properly. My mental and physical health have deteroriated. I'm crying even when writing this. It's hard, very hard. My daughter doesn’t love me anymore. In fact, she says she's happier with her step mum. It kills me hearing this but I deserved this. I told her I want a brand new life with just her again 1 million times but of course she doesn’t believe me. So, I shut myself down and have no meaning in life anymore.

Crackanut · 05/04/2025 19:51

Evan456 · 05/04/2025 19:44

No not the cheater the one ex she that she got on with and had a good relationship with

It's the same person. He cheated.

spicemaiden · 05/04/2025 19:53

Evan456 · 05/04/2025 19:44

No not the cheater the one ex she that she got on with and had a good relationship with

That would be the OPs ex she was still living with.
OP didn’t put that in her OP

They split because he’d been a massive arsehole

MumWifeOther · 05/04/2025 19:55

babs891 · 05/04/2025 00:52

Well no shit.

Except it didn't feel that way at the time. I was under the impression I was in an exclusive relationship, in which case XP and I needed to assess the living arrangements anyway.

The plan was always to sell up eventually. All this did was accelerate things, as PP pointed out.

If the relationship with the boyfriend had legs then that would have been the right decision, albeit less rushed.

It just so happens that this bloke turned out to be a bad apple and therefore it was all for nothing.

I couldn't feel any worse if I tried. I've been in bits all week, not out of self pity but sheer disbelief and anger at myself.

Well I guess let it be a lesson to you.

Theres no reason to move so fast with a new man when there are kids involved - even if it hadn’t ended this way, did you not consider the fact is might have been far too soon for your daughter?

Hollowoman · 05/04/2025 20:06

@Mindy78 I hear you. I have gone through - and still go through - very much of what you are experiencing. It sounds as though you've paid a heavy price for being human.
Lets try and find ways for you to cope with today?
The anxiety was and is a huge issue for me, so I use the free NHS deep breathing app, which basically tells my mind to listen to my body (trust me, it sounds weird, but it is all based on science!). You can find it via this link:
Do this breathing exercise until you get bored. Then you know you don't need it any more and can 'switch off' for a bit. If you need to repeat this a hundred times, just do.
Again, I am really sorry you feel this way today. Just know that today can be the worst day of your life if you want it to be! Tomorrow will be better. xxx

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Mumtobabyhavoc · 05/04/2025 20:12

@babs891 Don't try and rationalize, understand or try and figure out what you did wrong.
Your gut was right. You were strung along.

Mindy78 · 05/04/2025 20:14

Hollowoman · 05/04/2025 20:06

@Mindy78 I hear you. I have gone through - and still go through - very much of what you are experiencing. It sounds as though you've paid a heavy price for being human.
Lets try and find ways for you to cope with today?
The anxiety was and is a huge issue for me, so I use the free NHS deep breathing app, which basically tells my mind to listen to my body (trust me, it sounds weird, but it is all based on science!). You can find it via this link:
Do this breathing exercise until you get bored. Then you know you don't need it any more and can 'switch off' for a bit. If you need to repeat this a hundred times, just do.
Again, I am really sorry you feel this way today. Just know that today can be the worst day of your life if you want it to be! Tomorrow will be better. xxx

Thank you Hollowoman. Nothing can really stop my tears because I don't deserve to be happy. But thanks, I will check out the link you sent me.

DearDenimEagle · 05/04/2025 20:18

babs891 · 04/04/2025 18:38

I hold my hands up, I've been a total idiot and I'm so angry at myself.

I'm doing what I can to repair my co-parenting relationship with XP.

BF was introduced to DD as a friend but I appreciate that's besides the point. I also met his DC.

What goes on in the head of men that do this? I think it's very likely the case as suggested that he just liked the thrill of the chase and having control.

Don’t feel an idiot. They are practiced deceivers and very good at what they do.
You do need to concentrate on getting him out of your head space. Find plenty to occupy your time, concentrate on your DD and make new memories to drive away his.
But do remember the red flags..the rush to progress, the apparent ideal he portrays. He will have mirrored you..learned how you’d want him to be. The mask never lasts. But the damage is well on the way by then

Lots of us fall for it because we don’t expect someone who claims to be seeking a relationship to lie about who they are. I fell more than once till I learned about these guys. Aided by my mother normalising a lot that wasn’t really normal.

Anyway. Good luck with the ex and the co parenting. Try to move on and take care

Hollowoman · 05/04/2025 20:18

Of course you deserve to be happy! Everyone does. Would you say this to me if I'd had the courage to post as you did? I doubt it - only the most self righteous and nasty people would. Try and do the deep breathing. Nothing wrong with a good cry too, they are not mutually exclusive!

Lavenderblue11 · 05/04/2025 20:20

Muffinmam · 04/04/2025 18:46

He’s a narcissist.

He wanted you to react to him being a twat so he could end it with you.

It sucks but it’s better it end with a narcissist before the abuse escalates - which it absolutely will.

Absolutely, I came here to say this. Typical narcissistic behaviour, starting the love bombing, then controlling/manipulative behaviour, asking OP to move her ex out. He's completed the deal by behaving with indifference once OP had seen ex off. He's typically seeing someone else now. OP should beware that he may try to dip in and out of her life if/when things aren't going well for him. She needs to go 100% 'no contact'.

UrsulasHerbBag · 05/04/2025 20:21

@Mindy78 you blummin well do deserve some happiness! You made a mistake and you have lived with the consequences of it and you are still punishing yourself. You need some help and support love, you sound desperately low and you really need some help from a councillor or advice from a GP to help you work through everything that’s happened. Please get some help to move forward. (The breathing is a great idea too my mum swears by it). OP you made a bad judgement when you were at a low point in your life and you have been led on and has your heart broken, you can work through this and build a much happier brighter future for you and your daughter.

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