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Ruined my life for a man who turned out to be full of shit

379 replies

babs891 · 04/04/2025 18:01

In January of 24 I separated from my partner of 14 years. We have a DD (10) with complex health problems, cerebral palsy among other dx.

The split was amicable and we agreed there was no rush for either of us to move out, we get along well and share caring duties. We would put the house on the market in a years time.

In September I began seeing a man from work, albeit from a different department. I did tell XP after a few dates so he was aware. There was never any question of us getting back together. He was understanding and free to date himself.

So the colleague - It was quite intense, spending lots of time together, in contact all day every day. A bit too much perhaps, in hindsight.

After a couple of months he began saying he was struggling with the reality of me and XP sharing a house which is fair enough.

I spoke with XP and it was agreed he would start looking for somewhere 'now' rather than at the end of the year as planned.

Colleague started blowing hot and cold in the process, I didnt know where I stood from one minute to the other. He said he was depressed and it was because of my home situation. One minute he wanted to be with me now and the next he said he couldn't cope (but still kept contacting me daily, telling me he loved me and saying he was waiting for me so we could be together properly)

He said we could only be together once XP had moved out and he was applying pressure, constantly telling me it was impacting his mental health.

Fair enough though, I thought. It's not ideal circumstances and of course its going to be difficult for him.

I really felt like I'd fallen in love with him at this point. In hindsight I think I was love bombed.

I felt under pressure which had a knock on effect for XP so me and XP were no longer getting on.

Him moving out was expedited and he moved in somewhere crap and further away than planned, just to get it over and done with. Our previously positive co-parenting relationship broke down. I'm financially much worse off and doing the lions share of care on my own.

Colleague/bf was happy though. All going well with him, so I thought.

Until Sunday I was at his for a BBQ when he made a couple of comments that made me question where his mind was at. He said he liked us "just how we are"

So I initiated a "where is this heading then" conversation.. my jaw hit the floor when he said he didn't want to put a label on it. After months and months of future faking.

(Didn't want to commit and be exclusive basically - he lead me to believe we already were. I had met his family and friends. He'd met mine including DD)

I reminded him of all the things he'd said about us settling down together, living together in the future, he had mentioned marriage a good few times. I asked what on earth that was about.

He said that's just something he said at the time and joked that I'm like an elephant, I never forget things.

He's 42. I was not expecting any of this.

I left his place on Sunday feeling like I'd just had the rug pulled from under my feet. The last thing I said to him was that we might aswell leave it at that then, and I left upset.

I've been in bits ever since, barely sleeping, hardly eating. I've completely destabilised mine and DD's lives for nothing. I feel such a fool.

I saw him at work today for the first time since last week and my emotions got the better of me. He came over and I told him he was manipulative, he had strung me along for months and to move out of my way. A couple of other colleagues were around so I expect he's embarrassed.

He text me shortly after saying I had made it very awkward and he doesn't know what that was all about(?!) but yes he is calling it a day as he doesn't want "these issues" with me.

I've burst out crying infront of my line manager who took me aside when she noticed I wasn't myself. She was utterly lovely about it but I'm so embarrassed.

He doesn't see that he has done anything wrong.

Have I been completely gaslighted here or am I just a fucking moron myself?

I actually feel sick 😔

OP posts:
cantthinkofausername26 · 05/04/2025 18:04

Annascaul · 04/04/2025 18:05

You changed something which worked well for you and your ex, for the benefit of this guy’s mental health Confused
All else flows from that, really.

Absolute pointless comment 🙄

DiduAye · 05/04/2025 18:11

This man is a classic abuser and you fell victim to him This is NOT your fault Things will improve I promise I've been there !

laraitopbanana · 05/04/2025 18:13

Gosh.

I am sorry op but yes, it screams love bombing and to put so much pressure on your situation, making demands concerning what works for you and DD but with no other commitments than meeting his friends and family.
you have treated poorly your ex and should apologies and explained your actual situation. He probably understood that and upset but you should try and mend this relation so it doesn’t break any further. For DD and also for your ex whom didn’t deserve that.

Take time for yourself. Don’t give a man the right to drive you in any situation with no commitment on his part.

Good luck op 🌺

MustWeDoThis · 05/04/2025 18:20

babs891 · 04/04/2025 18:01

In January of 24 I separated from my partner of 14 years. We have a DD (10) with complex health problems, cerebral palsy among other dx.

The split was amicable and we agreed there was no rush for either of us to move out, we get along well and share caring duties. We would put the house on the market in a years time.

In September I began seeing a man from work, albeit from a different department. I did tell XP after a few dates so he was aware. There was never any question of us getting back together. He was understanding and free to date himself.

So the colleague - It was quite intense, spending lots of time together, in contact all day every day. A bit too much perhaps, in hindsight.

After a couple of months he began saying he was struggling with the reality of me and XP sharing a house which is fair enough.

I spoke with XP and it was agreed he would start looking for somewhere 'now' rather than at the end of the year as planned.

Colleague started blowing hot and cold in the process, I didnt know where I stood from one minute to the other. He said he was depressed and it was because of my home situation. One minute he wanted to be with me now and the next he said he couldn't cope (but still kept contacting me daily, telling me he loved me and saying he was waiting for me so we could be together properly)

He said we could only be together once XP had moved out and he was applying pressure, constantly telling me it was impacting his mental health.

Fair enough though, I thought. It's not ideal circumstances and of course its going to be difficult for him.

I really felt like I'd fallen in love with him at this point. In hindsight I think I was love bombed.

I felt under pressure which had a knock on effect for XP so me and XP were no longer getting on.

Him moving out was expedited and he moved in somewhere crap and further away than planned, just to get it over and done with. Our previously positive co-parenting relationship broke down. I'm financially much worse off and doing the lions share of care on my own.

Colleague/bf was happy though. All going well with him, so I thought.

Until Sunday I was at his for a BBQ when he made a couple of comments that made me question where his mind was at. He said he liked us "just how we are"

So I initiated a "where is this heading then" conversation.. my jaw hit the floor when he said he didn't want to put a label on it. After months and months of future faking.

(Didn't want to commit and be exclusive basically - he lead me to believe we already were. I had met his family and friends. He'd met mine including DD)

I reminded him of all the things he'd said about us settling down together, living together in the future, he had mentioned marriage a good few times. I asked what on earth that was about.

He said that's just something he said at the time and joked that I'm like an elephant, I never forget things.

He's 42. I was not expecting any of this.

I left his place on Sunday feeling like I'd just had the rug pulled from under my feet. The last thing I said to him was that we might aswell leave it at that then, and I left upset.

I've been in bits ever since, barely sleeping, hardly eating. I've completely destabilised mine and DD's lives for nothing. I feel such a fool.

I saw him at work today for the first time since last week and my emotions got the better of me. He came over and I told him he was manipulative, he had strung me along for months and to move out of my way. A couple of other colleagues were around so I expect he's embarrassed.

He text me shortly after saying I had made it very awkward and he doesn't know what that was all about(?!) but yes he is calling it a day as he doesn't want "these issues" with me.

I've burst out crying infront of my line manager who took me aside when she noticed I wasn't myself. She was utterly lovely about it but I'm so embarrassed.

He doesn't see that he has done anything wrong.

Have I been completely gaslighted here or am I just a fucking moron myself?

I actually feel sick 😔

I would honestly be looking at a grievance in work for sexual harassment, intimidation, gaslighting, and manipulative behaviour. He should be sacked because he's harassed you and abused you in the work place.

JungAtHeart · 05/04/2025 18:23

I totally empathise OP. My marriage ended in December after seven years together because my soon to be exH couldn’t handle that my DDs will ‘always need me’. They were seven and eight when we met. Some people we are so much better off without! In the last four months I’ve completely stopped making it about him and really looked at myself. Why would I be attracted to someone who made me feel emotionally unsafe all the time??? Why didn’t I walk away at all the earlier red flags? He’s a loser who doesn’t deserve to live in your head.

TheLavenderLantern · 05/04/2025 18:25

Is there any chance that your ex (DD’s father) will move back, OP?

Evan456 · 05/04/2025 18:25

Get your ex to move back in as he’s living somewhere shit

Alwayscomplicated123 · 05/04/2025 18:28

So you totally shat on your ex and you ended up getting dumped. I don’t want to laugh but can’t help it.

Crikeyalmighty · 05/04/2025 18:28

@MuffinsOrCake well that’s weird- because the ex had an affair - many if not most mumsnetters would have them out the door within the hour for that - never mind giving him 10 months to get his shit together.

Goldyyup · 05/04/2025 18:33

Alwayscomplicated123 · 05/04/2025 18:28

So you totally shat on your ex and you ended up getting dumped. I don’t want to laugh but can’t help it.

The ex cheated on her. Try reading the full thread. I am laughing at you.

TheGaaTheSkaAndTheRa · 05/04/2025 18:37

researchers3 · 04/04/2025 19:46

Total narcissistic behaviour. Do not go back as he may well come back to play more games with you.

You've dodged a big old bullet only investing 6 months of your life with him.

Concentrate on your dd, yourself and reparations on co parenting with your ex. And check out Dr Ramani on YouTube...

I agree with the bit here that says he will likely re-emerge at some point.

He is clearly an absolute arsewipe so expect his next GF to discover this early on and bin him. This when he will be messaging you again OP.

joliefolle · 05/04/2025 18:38

I hope the OP has also learnt from that... this happens. A lot. To the most rational, intelligent, practical, savvy people. And particularly loving ones. The ones who are prepared to give their husband a shot after infidelity and to spend years trying to the family's "needs" over their own. To take the grown-up, amicable approach to eventual separation despite being "the injured party". There would be a part of you that was dead inside if the hormonal rush from new romance lovebombing did not send you in a spin after years of trying to plod on despite being in pain. Perfectly primed to feel guilt and fear when the push/pull game got initiated. I don't say all of this as a "platitude". It's a reality check. It will be fine. Also not a platitude. It will be.

Once the adrenaline has dropped and you are over the fatigue that will hit when that happens, sleep, eat, stretch, then talk to your ex about what is going to work best for the three of you. There will be a solution. If it starts to fall into a blame game and raking over past hurts etc, that would not be surprising but it's not helpful for either of you and of course not your daughter so some brief co-parenting mediation/couples therapy might help. It sounds like there is the foundation of good will between you despite all the turmoil you've been through as a couple and then as co-parents.

Weefox · 05/04/2025 18:39

The first victim here is you 'ex'. You owe him a huge apology.

DoggingDave · 05/04/2025 18:47

babs891 · 04/04/2025 19:42

I'm blaming him for misleading me. The rest is on me.

He sounds like a right weapon. He didn't used to sell ppi did he?

Thebloodynine · 05/04/2025 18:47

You need therapy. You had a healthy co-parenting relationship and were moving the separation along at a pace that worked both emotionally and financially for you and your ex. Then you start dating a guy and within weeks, you change everything and ruin your co-parenting relationship… and the guy met your kid? You only dated a few months and he met your kid? I’ve been with my boyfriend for 15 months and he hasn’t met my kids yet. What were you thinking?

You did all this to appease a brand new boyfriend. Get therapy for your boundary issues and co-dependency.

spicemaiden · 05/04/2025 18:51

Weefox · 05/04/2025 18:39

The first victim here is you 'ex'. You owe him a huge apology.

The ex cheated on her and she facilitated him not having to move out after his fuckery.

joliefolle · 05/04/2025 18:52

If the living together co-parenting actually was working emotionally then the OP might have been a little less vulnerable to being swept off her feet.

spicemaiden · 05/04/2025 18:53

Evan456 · 05/04/2025 18:25

Get your ex to move back in as he’s living somewhere shit

Maybe he could move the woman he cheated with back in too, eh? I’m sure that’ll be great

Bunny65 · 05/04/2025 18:54

You were vulnerable and he is a true narcissist, as in a proper personality disorder. Please don't beat yourself up. Avoid him as much as possible but plaster on a smile and be polite and professional. The more you avoid him the more he will eventually try to start buttering you up again but don't fall for it. yes it's really hard now but you will come through it. Maybe explain to your partner that you've been a fool and betrayed and try to get the co-parenting on a better footing again.

Thebloodynine · 05/04/2025 18:55

babs891 · 05/04/2025 00:52

Well no shit.

Except it didn't feel that way at the time. I was under the impression I was in an exclusive relationship, in which case XP and I needed to assess the living arrangements anyway.

The plan was always to sell up eventually. All this did was accelerate things, as PP pointed out.

If the relationship with the boyfriend had legs then that would have been the right decision, albeit less rushed.

It just so happens that this bloke turned out to be a bad apple and therefore it was all for nothing.

I couldn't feel any worse if I tried. I've been in bits all week, not out of self pity but sheer disbelief and anger at myself.

I’m a bit concerned that you seem to think, has this worked out, that you did the right thing and it would have all been OK.

You did not do the right thing. Introducing after only 6 months was never the right thing, even if you ended up marrying the guy. The reason it is never the right thing is that you have no way of knowing. You also hardly know the guy in a personal way at that point; everyone is still on best behaviour. It’s too soon. It is worrying that you think it would have been a good idea if it all worked well. It means next time you’re sure it’s working, you’ll introduce to kids after a few months and your kids will go through all of this every time.

It was not the right thing to do. Don’t make the same mistake. Wait. Really wait next time.

Nevermind hurrying along the moving out when neither of you were financially ready for it.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 05/04/2025 18:55

MuffinsOrCake · 05/04/2025 13:20

You are very right. The ex seems angelic by the whole sound of it. The child is so suffering and added emotional layer of suffering now.

"Blameless"?? The relationship broke up because the "angelic" man had an affair!

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 05/04/2025 18:57

Weefox · 05/04/2025 18:39

The first victim here is you 'ex'. You owe him a huge apology.

The guy who cheated on the OP? Really?!!

Crazycatlady79 · 05/04/2025 18:57

Alwayscomplicated123 · 05/04/2025 18:28

So you totally shat on your ex and you ended up getting dumped. I don’t want to laugh but can’t help it.

Don't be a cunt. OP's ex cheated on her.
I hope you have a crap evening.
😃

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 05/04/2025 18:58

Alwayscomplicated123 · 05/04/2025 18:28

So you totally shat on your ex and you ended up getting dumped. I don’t want to laugh but can’t help it.

You can laugh the other side of your face because you are looking really foolish here.

caringcarer · 05/04/2025 18:59

babs891 · 04/04/2025 19:17

I feel terrible for XP. I wouldn't blame him if he wanted nothing more to do with me, DD aside.

I hope in time he is able to forgive me. The relationship wasn't fantastic but we did/do work well as friends. He's a very good father.

Funnily enough, he also said bf/colleague sounds like a narcissist.

Apologis to your Husband and ask if he can move back in to share care of your disabled DC. Concentrate on your DC. Give her stability. No rush to get into a new relationship. If living with your exh works for you, him and your DC then go back to this if your exh will agree.

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