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Ruined my life for a man who turned out to be full of shit

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babs891 · 04/04/2025 18:01

In January of 24 I separated from my partner of 14 years. We have a DD (10) with complex health problems, cerebral palsy among other dx.

The split was amicable and we agreed there was no rush for either of us to move out, we get along well and share caring duties. We would put the house on the market in a years time.

In September I began seeing a man from work, albeit from a different department. I did tell XP after a few dates so he was aware. There was never any question of us getting back together. He was understanding and free to date himself.

So the colleague - It was quite intense, spending lots of time together, in contact all day every day. A bit too much perhaps, in hindsight.

After a couple of months he began saying he was struggling with the reality of me and XP sharing a house which is fair enough.

I spoke with XP and it was agreed he would start looking for somewhere 'now' rather than at the end of the year as planned.

Colleague started blowing hot and cold in the process, I didnt know where I stood from one minute to the other. He said he was depressed and it was because of my home situation. One minute he wanted to be with me now and the next he said he couldn't cope (but still kept contacting me daily, telling me he loved me and saying he was waiting for me so we could be together properly)

He said we could only be together once XP had moved out and he was applying pressure, constantly telling me it was impacting his mental health.

Fair enough though, I thought. It's not ideal circumstances and of course its going to be difficult for him.

I really felt like I'd fallen in love with him at this point. In hindsight I think I was love bombed.

I felt under pressure which had a knock on effect for XP so me and XP were no longer getting on.

Him moving out was expedited and he moved in somewhere crap and further away than planned, just to get it over and done with. Our previously positive co-parenting relationship broke down. I'm financially much worse off and doing the lions share of care on my own.

Colleague/bf was happy though. All going well with him, so I thought.

Until Sunday I was at his for a BBQ when he made a couple of comments that made me question where his mind was at. He said he liked us "just how we are"

So I initiated a "where is this heading then" conversation.. my jaw hit the floor when he said he didn't want to put a label on it. After months and months of future faking.

(Didn't want to commit and be exclusive basically - he lead me to believe we already were. I had met his family and friends. He'd met mine including DD)

I reminded him of all the things he'd said about us settling down together, living together in the future, he had mentioned marriage a good few times. I asked what on earth that was about.

He said that's just something he said at the time and joked that I'm like an elephant, I never forget things.

He's 42. I was not expecting any of this.

I left his place on Sunday feeling like I'd just had the rug pulled from under my feet. The last thing I said to him was that we might aswell leave it at that then, and I left upset.

I've been in bits ever since, barely sleeping, hardly eating. I've completely destabilised mine and DD's lives for nothing. I feel such a fool.

I saw him at work today for the first time since last week and my emotions got the better of me. He came over and I told him he was manipulative, he had strung me along for months and to move out of my way. A couple of other colleagues were around so I expect he's embarrassed.

He text me shortly after saying I had made it very awkward and he doesn't know what that was all about(?!) but yes he is calling it a day as he doesn't want "these issues" with me.

I've burst out crying infront of my line manager who took me aside when she noticed I wasn't myself. She was utterly lovely about it but I'm so embarrassed.

He doesn't see that he has done anything wrong.

Have I been completely gaslighted here or am I just a fucking moron myself?

I actually feel sick 😔

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Thalia31 · 05/04/2025 20:24

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Zone2NorthLondon · 05/04/2025 20:31

Frankly,there’s no point ruminating or trying to understand his motives or behaviour
You cannot change anyone else. You can only change yourself

It was a newish relationship that moved too fast and sounds v intense, unfortunately as a result @babs891 has had an emotional and practical upheaval.

Hollowoman · 05/04/2025 20:31

UrsulasHerbBag · 05/04/2025 20:21

@Mindy78 you blummin well do deserve some happiness! You made a mistake and you have lived with the consequences of it and you are still punishing yourself. You need some help and support love, you sound desperately low and you really need some help from a councillor or advice from a GP to help you work through everything that’s happened. Please get some help to move forward. (The breathing is a great idea too my mum swears by it). OP you made a bad judgement when you were at a low point in your life and you have been led on and has your heart broken, you can work through this and build a much happier brighter future for you and your daughter.

@UrsulasHerbBag makes a good point dear @Mindy78, when she mentions your GP. My (man) GP tried to put me on anti depressants a few years ago, but that didn't work out. The next GP (a woman) prescribed propranolol which I could take as and when I felt my mind and heart racing uncontrollably and this worked for me. Talk to your doctor about the possibility and un/suitability about your specific health situation. Hey - please be as gentle with yourself as you would be with anyone else in your situation.

ThisIcyHare · 05/04/2025 20:34

babs891 · 04/04/2025 18:38

I hold my hands up, I've been a total idiot and I'm so angry at myself.

I'm doing what I can to repair my co-parenting relationship with XP.

BF was introduced to DD as a friend but I appreciate that's besides the point. I also met his DC.

What goes on in the head of men that do this? I think it's very likely the case as suggested that he just liked the thrill of the chase and having control.

Speak to your ex partner, lay out what happened, hold your hands up, apologise, and say you want to get back to how you were for the sake of your family. Your family might be split now, but you are still a family. You’ve made a mistake that you’re owning, so just do what you can to repair matters.

caringcarer · 05/04/2025 20:43

spicemaiden · 05/04/2025 19:26

HE CHEATED ON HER.

Him moving out is literally the one good thing out of this situation.

If she'll struggle to care for disabled DC all ne she might need him to parent his DC. Doesn't mean they have to be back together just living in same house for convenience to care for disabled DC.

Hollowoman · 05/04/2025 20:52

ps. and @babs891 you should try the deep breathing I recommended to @Mindy78too! It's not airy fairy clap trap, it is a scientific fact that when you s-l-o-w your heart rate down by controlled breathing, your mind does respond with calm.

DearDenimEagle · 05/04/2025 20:55

babs891 · 04/04/2025 19:17

I feel terrible for XP. I wouldn't blame him if he wanted nothing more to do with me, DD aside.

I hope in time he is able to forgive me. The relationship wasn't fantastic but we did/do work well as friends. He's a very good father.

Funnily enough, he also said bf/colleague sounds like a narcissist.

If ExP recognised the narc then he might come round to resuming more cordiality.

The ‘I feel insecure’ aspect of the bf is a huge red flag you won’t fall for again. The power and control display. Actually, be glad he was backtracking on the relationship so relatively quickly. If you get stuck in a marriage or living together scenario years in, it’s far worse when they start the real cruelty. Once they have killed off your self esteem and got you not knowing up from down with the gaslighting etc Believe it or not, you got away lightly and good on you for calling him out and seeing him for what he is.

Mindy78 · 05/04/2025 20:57

UrsulasHerbBag · 05/04/2025 20:21

@Mindy78 you blummin well do deserve some happiness! You made a mistake and you have lived with the consequences of it and you are still punishing yourself. You need some help and support love, you sound desperately low and you really need some help from a councillor or advice from a GP to help you work through everything that’s happened. Please get some help to move forward. (The breathing is a great idea too my mum swears by it). OP you made a bad judgement when you were at a low point in your life and you have been led on and has your heart broken, you can work through this and build a much happier brighter future for you and your daughter.

Thank you for your support. I'm so scared of everything and everyone. I've been seeing a psychiatrist but the medication doesn't help either.

Mittleme · 05/04/2025 21:00

Well said I was going to say exactly the same thing how long ago you've been dating this guy . You haven't ruined your life as it sounds I actually thought you were talking about a partner you have dated all your life .
i can understand you have been vulnerable but women need to slow down a bit and take your time . I know it's not easy but focus on what you got and you will know when you meet the right person .

Gagaandgag · 05/04/2025 21:09

You’re not an idiot at all op. You were emotionally vulnerable.
You deserve happiness and you’ve been searching for it. Sadly he has treated you very badly. This is very upsetting right now but you will get through this and you definitely don’t want this guy in your life!! Work on building up your self esteem and your repairing your co parenting relationship.

Doubledenim305 · 05/04/2025 21:14

Anoisagusaris · 04/04/2025 19:17

Well I’d ask what goes on in the head of women who allow a man to have such a power over them. You didn’t have to move so fast with the relationship.

Probably just want to be loved.

spicemaiden · 05/04/2025 21:14

caringcarer · 05/04/2025 20:43

If she'll struggle to care for disabled DC all ne she might need him to parent his DC. Doesn't mean they have to be back together just living in same house for convenience to care for disabled DC.

Disabled DV or not - mums deserve some space and some life just as much as dads do.

I say that as a 20 year veteran of a disabled DC.

I still deserve some life just- not having DCs dad in my face every moment

spicemaiden · 05/04/2025 21:16

I cannot even get my head around the women telling OP to ‘apologise’ to a man who destabilised his family (consisting of a partner and disabled child).

oP didnt destabilise things - he did, by putting himself first and shagging around.

DishSoap · 05/04/2025 21:20

He's a prick. Oh well, you know now and no more time wasted on him.

Switcher · 05/04/2025 21:21

Yeah he's a fucking psycho.

Bowies · 05/04/2025 21:31

Yeah he’s a wanker. You are well rid of him. Sorry you went through all this, but you did what you thought was for the best at the time, so try to forgive yourself any errors in judgement and move on.

Please don’t let this lowlife anywhere near you or your DD again and don’t give him the satisfaction of affecting anything, including your work.

Hopefully you can rebuild a more positive co-parenting arrangement again with your ex as you move away from the negative influences of the toxic collective and future faker.

ThistleTits · 05/04/2025 21:34

Nessastats · 04/04/2025 18:09

What on earth have i just read?

He met your vulnerable child after only a few months? You upended hers and your ex's life for the sake of a man you barely knew?

Victim blaming much 🙄.
She was very vulnerable after splitting with her ex. He love bombed and then used gas lighting to fk her head up and you blame her.

FrozenFeathers · 05/04/2025 21:39

babs891 · 04/04/2025 20:47

Stick with him? You must be joking.

It will hurt for a while but ultimately I'll get over it. I'm concentrating on trying to undo the damage I've already caused. I wouldn't go back with him if my life was dependent on it.

Don't beat yourself up over this anymore, OP. Yes, it was bad judgement and bad timing, but I think you know that already.

In your defense I want to say that you were emotionally vulnerable. You were going through a separation, have a child with high needs and probably had a lot on your plate. I think this twat clocked your situation and saw an opportunity to take advantage to gratify his own ego. I imagine you struggled to see the forest for the trees at time while you were involved with this man. I think you ex is right and your coworker is a narcissist. He moved way too quickly, so that you did not have enough time to evaluate how you felt about this relationship at different points and therefore acting in a way that you would not approve of yourself, if you had time to consider it..

Sadly, we are all vulnerable to these kind of manipulations.

LalaPaloosa2024 · 05/04/2025 21:40

Nessastats · 04/04/2025 18:09

What on earth have i just read?

He met your vulnerable child after only a few months? You upended hers and your ex's life for the sake of a man you barely knew?

I think it’s clear OP knows she made a mistake. If you’re not familiar with narcissistic people you can be completely taken in, and they look for vulnerable people. OP was clearly at a vulnerable point in her life and he abused that.

Zone2NorthLondon · 05/04/2025 21:44

Handy that the sofa psychiatrists have diagnosed narcissistic traits on basis of dumped ex posts. Makes all that jumping to conclusions easier.

spicemaiden · 05/04/2025 21:46

Zone2NorthLondon · 05/04/2025 21:44

Handy that the sofa psychiatrists have diagnosed narcissistic traits on basis of dumped ex posts. Makes all that jumping to conclusions easier.

Huh?

Animatic · 05/04/2025 21:52

It probably doesn't matter if you were gaslighted, or not. All that matters is you need to think how to get your abd your daughter's lives back on track, and without this man.
As a side note, it is never a good idea to bring personal issues to work (esp the way you did).

BoldAmberDuck · 05/04/2025 22:03

babs891 · 04/04/2025 18:38

I hold my hands up, I've been a total idiot and I'm so angry at myself.

I'm doing what I can to repair my co-parenting relationship with XP.

BF was introduced to DD as a friend but I appreciate that's besides the point. I also met his DC.

What goes on in the head of men that do this? I think it's very likely the case as suggested that he just liked the thrill of the chase and having control.

I think I’d be trying to repair the previous relationship now. Your daughter needs you both. Maybe you can justify it as a moment of madness, menopause or something. Certainly no more time wasted on this work colleague. So sad he’s come along and uprooted all your entire lives with love bombing and nonsense.

MariaElleQuestions · 05/04/2025 22:08

well, on positive side, you find this outcome before moving together and investing even more.I know we women are more emotional and invest more ...yes, there are people who are just players.
Personally 1)I think dating and living with ex are tricky. I wd not like to date anybody who is still living with an ex. very dammaging.2)Neither start a relationship soon after getting out of previous one.

springbringshope · 05/04/2025 22:14

Snoopdoggydog123 · 05/04/2025 10:50

But that's the point.
It is really that simple.
Two people didn't unify in what they wanted in a relationship. So separated.

He isn't in any way a villian in that.

And your drama is probably why he dropped a gear.

How many people need to tell you to fuck off before you fuck off?

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