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Dress shamed on dates

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rubberduck68 · 06/03/2025 10:43

I am mid-fifties and OLD. I have been on the receiving end of a comments about how I dress, all implying that I am not dressed up enough. I like jeans, and trousers. I wear good quality ones, on trend (or so my daughter tells me!), good tops, nice jackets, I'm a trainers and Chelsea Boots fan, don't do heels. Own one smart black dress, wore it for a funeral two years ago, and have a couple of summer ones that I pull out when it's scorching. Last night went to Bills for dinner. Bills is low-key, it's a chain, we ate burgers, I wore good jeans, a vintage Bella Freud jumper, some boots, hair and make-up effort was applied. He said, "I thought we'd be dressing up." This has happened to me a fair bit since OLD, never happened when I was younger and dressed the same. Is it just men of this age who expect women to show up in high heels and skirts/dresses? We had a polite debate about it, and he asked me what I'd wear if he took me (I know, I know) to a wedding, and I replied that the last wedding I went to I wore a fitted waistcoat with nothing underneath, wide legged linen trousers, and lots of cool jewellery and got loads of compliments. He pulled a face. A face!! Anyone else dress shamed on dates? Is it their age? Am I out of touch with what to wear on dates? Brutal honesty welcome!

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Doodleflips · 06/03/2025 16:50

They sound gross.

Join the face book page, the Burned haystack dating method, that’ll help you weed them out.
also, lalaletmeexplain and alittlenudge on insta

PineConeOrDogPoo · 06/03/2025 16:53

I think they expect skirts and dresses. It's all bullshit. You're good as you are! Xxx

Carouselfish · 06/03/2025 16:55

Try Dutch men. Dressing up plus heels in Holland doesn't happen due to wind and cobbles. Grin
Seriously though, fuck them. They aren't mature enough at 50 to know they have zero say in what a woman wears and to take her as they find her? Not polite enough to keep their thoughts to themselves?

aCatCalledFawkes · 06/03/2025 17:06

I've been on so many dates with men who turn up looking scruffy, not even nice jeans and a top, okish jeans with a hoodie - while I have turned up in a smart dress with trainers or winter nice boots, make up, hair blow dried, straightened etc etc.....

I've also been on dates with men who apparently eat really well and are always in the gym only they don't really look like they have been near a gym for months.

I literally give up, I feel like women are expected to have everything covered and some men just don't bother.

sommerjade · 06/03/2025 17:07

Omg really? The last date I went on was 2019 (shockingly long ago) I was 43 and wore a satin shirt with jeans and chunky heeled boots to meet a man the same age at the local pub.
He was quite casual with a beanie hat to hide his bald head (no need really) and said he liked my outfit.
We dated for a while but I was put off by several things not least his obsessive endless messaging and weird love bombing before I'd even decided if I really fancied him. (Then Covid happened, then I put on over 2 stone and have felt really unattractive, then I've been bereaved & my mental illness had got worse.
I'm beginning to think about dating now but will be really put off if a man starts negging me due to my outfit.
I think younger men may be the answer OP? Not sure.

Nikki75 · 06/03/2025 17:08

Itsmayhem · 06/03/2025 10:56

Good point about them wanting to see your legs. I arranged a date with someone I was chatting to online who seemed really nice but he started going on and on about me wearing ‘sexy high heels.’ He put so much pressure on I cancelled.

Ugh what a creep .. good you cancelled.

crackofdoom · 06/03/2025 17:11

DeathstarDarling · 06/03/2025 13:33

I agree that its a filter for the dullards. You sound stylish and classy.

When I was young, I recall similar comments from the blokes around me as I swanned around in my post punk/new romantic blitz /club style often including vintage ball gowns, ripped t shirts and DMs. "Why can't you wear a nice dress/ pretty makeup/ look normal" they would whine, wearing their St Michaels jumpers that mummy bought them for Christmas. I would smile, finish my pint and head for the hills. DH is an ex-goth who used to have a mountain of blue/black hair and even more eyeliner than me. Our friends are mostly interesting, quirky and stylish though we look a lot more conventional these days. None of the women wear high heels, slinky frocks or fake nails ever.

Sounds to me that you just need to find someone in your own tribe. A man who recognises your style when he sees it. Similarly you probably want someone with shared interests- who is interesting and engaged with arts/politics etc. People like this probably also notice fashion and style more than others.

I am willing to bet this was also an issue when you were younger, but then everyone was single and you moved in large social groups of like minded people so it was not so obvious. Like then, the men you will like are a minority but they are out there.

You are doing nothing wrong. Ignore these boorish and boring men and just keep looking. Remind yourself that its lucky they reveal themselves so early in the game.

Absolutely!! These men OP are meeting have probably never been to a sweaty gig in a badly lit basement venue and been down the front of the moshpit and had a guy with crimped hair accidentally stub his fag out on your hand and drink 7 pints of Snakebite and black and got off with the bassist's mate and it shows.

They were probably queuing up to get in to that club on the High Street that wouldn't allow trainers where there was always a fight, and are thus to be scorned (sniff).

Nikki75 · 06/03/2025 17:17

rubberduck68 · 06/03/2025 16:34

WHAT WAS HE WEARING? A few OPs have asked this so here it is:

He was wearing a white linen shirt untucked, that was a bit tight across the big belly. That sounds bitchy I know, but in reference to "fat, bald" men doing the negging from one OP, he was both, and had shown neither of these in his profile, which I have got used to now. The bald patch was huge and at the back. He was wearing tan trousers, I want to say chinos, but does anyone wear those still? His boots were black leather, normal with a zip up the back, and were not done up properly. His pictures online were all waist up wearing similar shirts. He had a nice face, and bad manners.

I got to a point with online dating where I thought this is just a waste of makeup 😂
How dare he question your dress sense this has happened to me too and I had a dress on above the knee, but not low though wore Chelsea boots and got criticised .
I told him he was paying my taxi home 🤣
Always be you and wear what your comfortable in the right person will appreciate you and also look past clothing style xx

sommerjade · 06/03/2025 17:23

However I've been criticised, or 'negged' by many men (dates, so-called male friends, strangers) and it happened when I was much younger in my 20s. No, the men concerned were not Brad Pitt lookalikes.
I won't go through everything each one said as it was actually fairly nasty and traumatic & at times left me in tears.

Men can be way bitchier and pickier than women in my experience.

Now, if a man shows any hint of this behaviour towards me I shut him up before he starts.
OP the only thing you did wrong on the date was to entertain that man's nonsense for longer than 2 minutes.
Jeans are a normal item of clothing for a woman of any age, and a vintage Bella Freud jumper sounds amazing!
He sounded clueless to be honest. And dull.

OnlyHerefortheBiscuits · 06/03/2025 17:44

On the few dates I have been on I have never, ever gone dressy.

I wear something similar to what you describe. The same as if I was going to meet a friend for brunch or meeting a new group of friends etc.

Dressing up-up for a man in something he would enjoy seeing me in is something I'd do when he has.....I dunno...won a place in my life? Not because he just turned up at 7pm

DivorcedMumOfAdults · 06/03/2025 17:51

He is a misogynist and not worth bothering with

LilacRaven · 06/03/2025 17:52

This is awful. Men clearly don't like a confident woman who wears what she wants and owns her own look. They want some play thing to look at.

I don't have any advice on how to stop it but deffo don't let it change how you dress!!

rubberduck68 · 06/03/2025 17:54

My very first date after my divorce was with a man who I met on Bumble. I was a bit late, but when he stood up to greet me he said, "wow, I feel like I've won the dating app lottery." Cheesy I know, but we had a few dates and he always found something nice to say. He was a lovely man but we just had so little in common in the end. I have to say, he set the bar high, and it's gone downhill fast since then!

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rubberduck68 · 06/03/2025 17:58

I'll balance that out with the absolute charmer who I also met on Bumble, who said that he was frustrated that all the women in his A-list and B-list choices who he had swiped right on, never matched with him, so he was left having to date his C choices. Errrrrrrm.......!

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tothelefttotheleft · 06/03/2025 18:11

@rubberduck68

Have you heard from him since the date? How did you leave things?

TwistedWonder · 06/03/2025 18:13

rubberduck68 · 06/03/2025 17:58

I'll balance that out with the absolute charmer who I also met on Bumble, who said that he was frustrated that all the women in his A-list and B-list choices who he had swiped right on, never matched with him, so he was left having to date his C choices. Errrrrrrm.......!

I matched with a bloke on Bumble who told me he was currently living in his brothers spare room since his divorce. Not ideal but I thought a short term stop gap so asked him how long - and he said 5 years!!!! His next question was ‘do you own your own home?’

Immediate cocklodger red flashing lights went off in my head

frozendaisy · 06/03/2025 18:19

rubberduck68 · 06/03/2025 17:58

I'll balance that out with the absolute charmer who I also met on Bumble, who said that he was frustrated that all the women in his A-list and B-list choices who he had swiped right on, never matched with him, so he was left having to date his C choices. Errrrrrrm.......!

And you replied
“lucky you for the possibility women start with their C choices on dating sites and work down from there”

frozendaisy · 06/03/2025 18:21

TwistedWonder · 06/03/2025 18:13

I matched with a bloke on Bumble who told me he was currently living in his brothers spare room since his divorce. Not ideal but I thought a short term stop gap so asked him how long - and he said 5 years!!!! His next question was ‘do you own your own home?’

Immediate cocklodger red flashing lights went off in my head

jaw on table

hope you refused to discuss your housing finances

rubberduck68 · 06/03/2025 18:56

tothelefttotheleft · 06/03/2025 18:11

@rubberduck68

Have you heard from him since the date? How did you leave things?

I left half my burger and downed one drink, but he wanted to order desert and a bottle of wine – I said I had to be going. When I got home I messaged that I didn't feel a connection and blocked him. I know some people like to give feedback, but I don't think it would change anything; if a man gets to his fifties and thinks insulting women and talking at them for the whole date is okay, he isn't going to change because of what I think.

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rubberduck68 · 06/03/2025 18:56

TwistedWonder · 06/03/2025 18:13

I matched with a bloke on Bumble who told me he was currently living in his brothers spare room since his divorce. Not ideal but I thought a short term stop gap so asked him how long - and he said 5 years!!!! His next question was ‘do you own your own home?’

Immediate cocklodger red flashing lights went off in my head

😮

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LBFseBrom · 06/03/2025 19:06

rubberduck68 · 06/03/2025 18:56

I left half my burger and downed one drink, but he wanted to order desert and a bottle of wine – I said I had to be going. When I got home I messaged that I didn't feel a connection and blocked him. I know some people like to give feedback, but I don't think it would change anything; if a man gets to his fifties and thinks insulting women and talking at them for the whole date is okay, he isn't going to change because of what I think.

Edited

Quite right too, good for you!

Who dresses up to the nines to go out for a burger anyway?

BetterDeadThanRed · 06/03/2025 22:22

Yea.. Just what is it with some of these men.

I once had a conversation with a man in his 60s (a relative). Well, it was him talking at me, more like. He was ranting how women (in general) let themselves go nowadays, how they are fat, dress 'like lesbians' (whatever), don't even wear makeup anymore - so unkempt looking, wear those 'horrible chunky shoes', etc. He sat there, a man in his 60s, bald, fat himself, dressed in nondescript 'dad from the 80s' jeans and washed out T, bad teeth. I couldn't listen anymore, so I blurted: jesus christ, have you actually SEEN YOURSELF in the mirror in the past 20 years????!

Another one, same age. Also a relative (I have awesome relatives..). Filthy rich, just widowed, dating again, looking for a partner. Who needs to be: YOUNG (up to 35), no kids, slim, beautiful, 'take care of herself' (heels, bodycons, that sort of thing). He's very wealthy, so sadly doesn't lack women matching his description and even younger. Yet they're no good, because he ALSO with all the above, wants a wealthy woman. I asked him, why would a young, beautiful, childless, rich woman date a bald, overweight, 60 year old? No reply.

I don't date now, but used to. I ALWAYS stick to my look, no matter what. I do wear lots of dresses and like to show my figure. Regardless of dating, that's just me, I always dress like that. I'm also to the alternative side, chunky boots, skull jewellery, tattoos, that sort of thing. It's just 'me'. And don't do false-anything, don't dye or 'do' my hair, don't ever wear makeup, not for any occasion. I'm good looking enough (echem), tall, slim, busty, long legged, so get plenty of attention. Fair share of it is from dickheads with 'you'd be a smashing knockout if you'd dress normal and ditch all the emo getup'. Yea, nah, fuck you very much.

Although I gotta admit. Once went on a date with a guy. Nice guy, polite, friendly, kind, no weird bullshit, no sly digs. Got along fine. But he came wearing a loud, red, screaming, shiny polyester basketball jersey, similar to ones those noughties American rappers used to wear in their videos. I don't even remember his trousers, some dark jeans I think. No, he wasn't a rapper, didn't play and didn't come from a training session - that I would have overlooked. And no, we weren't in our teens. I didn't say anything and didn't criticize his look, but the date didn't go nowhere and I was slightly embarrassed to be seen with him..

Lighteningstrikes · 06/03/2025 22:22

You’re too nice, you should have asked him why he turned up wearing a shirt that was far too tight for him.

What a rude w*nker, at least it was a nice and quick elimination process for you.

Greywarden · 07/03/2025 07:55

rubberduck68 · 06/03/2025 15:54

I bet you look just as good in your black jeans and eyeliner, and I'm sorry you were met with "disdain", that is just awful. Who knows what men are watching, what their influences are and where they are coming from, but I'd like them to stop sharing them on dates!

I had a chat with my DH about this yesterday (I did meet someone in the end who loved the jeans look, although I will admit that I wore a dress for our very first date. Hopefully our relationship didn't hinge on this).

He told me that whilst he's really embarrassed to admit this and believes it is wrong, there is part of him that likes to be seen with me when I'm dressed up, especially when we are meeting his friends or going out to an event of some sort. He said women become an extension of you as a man and of what you're 'able to get', so when I wear something that attracts admiration from other men / maybe jealousy from other women, he feels better.

Again, he said he didn't like thinking this way and that he is fine with whatever I wear, but he thought maybe the men being discussed in this thread might be influenced by the same concerns.

Thought I'd add that as food for thought. I can certainly see how this sort of thinking leads to a herd mentality. If men assess the femininity of one another's women as a way of sizing up one another's value, it is not so easy for them to step out of the game.

Greywarden · 07/03/2025 08:01

Ps the above is still no excuse!