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Struggling with Intimacy in My Marriage

215 replies

OneMerryPoster · 05/03/2025 10:50

My wife and I started dating in 2009, and in the beginning, our sex life was frequent. However, shortly after, we got pregnant.

In 2010, our first child was born, and my wife experienced postnatal depression (PND). She recovered with time and medication, but as new parents, intimacy naturally declined. She then got a contraceptive implant, which caused prolonged periods, sometimes lasting 2-3 weeks a month. When she wasn’t on her period, she often felt too sore for intimacy, and our sex life took a major hit. This continued for four years until we tried for another baby.

By “trying,” I mean we had sex twice—and got pregnant. But spotting during pregnancy meant we abstained again. After our second child was born, our sex life declined further.

By 2018, I felt like we had become housemates rather than partners. I ended the relationship, feeling unloved and disconnected, but my wife didn’t want to break up and promised things would change. To reignite our intimacy, we even explored an “upside-down pineapple” lifestyle, not engaging with others, just using the environment to reconnect. It worked briefly, but we realized it wasn’t for us.

Later, she switched from the implant to the pill, which negatively affected her emotions. To help, I took over contraception and used condoms. This improved things for a while, but in 2019, we got pregnant with our third child, clearly, I wasn’t as careful as I thought. Like before, pregnancy meant abstinence, and after the birth, our sex life remained inconsistent.

Hoping to remove any barriers, I got a vasectomy, thinking it would help. But ironically, I feel it had the opposite effect on her sex drive.

Over time, I felt increasingly rejected, but whenever I brought it up, I felt gaslit about how often we were actually intimate. So in 2022, I started keeping track. That year, we had sex four times. When I brought it up, she blamed my work schedule. In 2023, with a better work-life balance, our sex life improved, to 17 time, but it didn’t feel natural. Most of the time, it seemed like “pity sex” or part of a forced “just pick a day and do it” routine. I felt like I was pressuring her, and it often felt rushed, just something to get over with.

By 2024, the same pattern continued: sex only happened when I expressed my frustration, and even then, it was rare. We had sex 12 times, and only once or twice did it feel like she actually wanted to.

Now, in 2025, it’s weighing on me more than ever. My wife says I don’t initiate as much, and she’s right, I’ve stopped trying because years of rejection have taken a toll. I’ve planned date nights, taken on the majority of the housework, cooked and been emotionally supportive, yet I always hear:
• “I don’t feel like it.”
• “I need a shower.”
• “I don’t feel sexy.”

To make matters worse, our youngest insists on sleeping in our bed, adding another barrier.

I love my wife and in many ways, we have a good life. I don’t want to break up our family and financially, living separately isn’t an option. I refuse to cheat, but at 36, I don’t want to live in forced celibacy either.

I’ve read about couples who co-parent while living together but separated and in theory, we have the space for that, though I have no idea how to bring it up. I’ve also read about ethical non-monogamy, but I fear that seeing her be sexually active with someone else would hurt even more, confirming that the issue isn’t her sex drive, it’s her lack of desire for me.

I hate feeling like “the guy pestering his wife for sex”, that’s not who I am. I just don’t know what to do anymore.

OP posts:
LovelyJubly12 · 05/03/2025 14:53

Every time I read these sorts of posts the man only seems to see his wife as a sex machine. I never get any sense of who the woman is , what her personality is like, what she needs. I just don’t believe a woman who climaxes multiple times every time you have sex wouldn’t want more sex. Something is wrong here. She needs something she’s not getting. It’s very hard to tell what that is from a post on a public forum from a
stranger. By the way, ‘we’ can’t get pregnant. Only a woman can be pregnant.

Nothatgingerpirate · 05/03/2025 14:54

Maitri108 · 05/03/2025 12:29

You need to stop pestering her for sex and having sex she clearly doesn't want.

Your wife no longer wants to have sex which is her right. There could be many reasons for this but this is the fact you have to live with.

You say you can't afford to leave, so stay and live as housemates.

Exactly.
The post sounds utterly unpleasant.

Also, OP, were you pregnant as well?
If so, you oughta be more understanding 😆

Crikeyalmighty · 05/03/2025 14:59

The fact is that your wife may simply not be that bothered sexually - many women aren't, particularly after having children, it's no one's fault , it just 'is' - some women too can feign enthusiasm and others can't - hence the lack of genuine enthusiasm. So you make a choice and take what's on offer even if it's not as much as you would like, or you choose to leave - relying on the fact you will get more frequent and enthusiastic sex - which isn't a given by the way - or you discuss an open relationship if you like and get in in all other ways- not a great idea but works for some- nagging will not make her more enthusiastic if that ship has sailed -does she care about you in other ways?? That's worth a lot too

DarkMagicStars · 05/03/2025 15:01

Mumsnet is full of people who would be thrilled to never have sex again but they’re probably decades older than you.

Plenty of women also in your situation but people on here will encourage cheating or leaving in their case.

TrainGame · 05/03/2025 15:07

I find the daily grind of kids, chores etc so mind numbing.

does your DW have a sense of self identity?

Who is she when she’s out of the house not being a mum?

For me to feel genuinely up for it I need to be far far away from my home, my kids, my life.

Do you go away together at all?

Spontaneous sex is the best but who has the time or leisure to be able to consider that. Planned for, at home sex is dreary, even if I know I’ll orgasm (skilled partner etc). There is nothing novel or new about this. I’ve eaten that dish over and over again.

Spontaneous sex - That luxury is almost lost it feels. You are not alone OP, the whole of the western world is having less and less sex.

Look it up online.

Id get far away from the house first of all and see if she comes alive. Might not happen immediately. It took years for me to wake up from the befuddlement that is becoming a mum. It’s so harsh on the body, the mind.

Then just as you think things are sorted, a bit, peri kicks in. It’s fucking shit being a woman.

Nothatgingerpirate · 05/03/2025 15:08

Oh, just to add - leave then, leave HER the hell alone and pay for your children.
On the other hand, you can then have a lot of sex.
🤢
(As per PP, who put it brilliantly, I also chose to have my body "intact", after 42. I don't have any children and this works for both myself and my husband, who is very understanding and also a lot older, it's probably relevant here).
He never pesters for sex, although theoretically he could.
My company, apparently, our 20 years long marriage and who I am is more important to him than "the old in and out", and I value him deeply as a person.
Now pass the 🪣 sick bucket.

TrainGame · 05/03/2025 15:13

Look at Jimmy on Relationships on YouTube. Very good advice there

Itsthattimeofyearagain · 05/03/2025 15:13

I think men often don't realise that women like intimacy in lots of ways. Cuddling her in the day, touching her briefly while you are out, making her feel wanted throughout the day not just at bedtime. I don't mean sex pestering through the day, but make her feel good about herself and your relationship. There are lots of things that can build attractiveness for women, it certainly isn't a switch we flick at bedtime! Whilst washing up, housework etc is helpful and will reduce her load, that's not what will build intimacy. If there's no intimacy then there will probably be no sex.

TrainGame · 05/03/2025 15:15

@Itsthattimeofyearagain this is so true.

I heard a quote once: “for women, the whole day is foreplay”.

Excellent analysis!

Velvian · 05/03/2025 15:15

DarkMagicStars · 05/03/2025 15:01

Mumsnet is full of people who would be thrilled to never have sex again but they’re probably decades older than you.

Plenty of women also in your situation but people on here will encourage cheating or leaving in their case.

He came to right place then didn't he! I'm not decades older than the OP. If only we were all more like you @DarkMagicStars

Encouraging that the OP dismiss people that have some possible insight into his wife is not going to help him in his marriage.

We actually know very little about his wife, other she is not 'putting out' with sufficient frequency and enthusiasm, has had 3 children, PND, entertained and 'upside down pineapple lifestyle' and been left by her H once already.

Deadringer · 05/03/2025 15:16

You are still young and this has been going on for a long time, it doesn't sound like a situation that's going to improve drastically. Either your wife doesn't want sex, or she doesn't want sex with you, and it seems unlikely that this will improve. Separation seems the only realistic option.

bluegreen89 · 05/03/2025 15:23

@OneMerryPoster if you want to save your marriage you have to swallow your pride and accept that you don't know everything (said with kindness). It's better to know the truth (whichever way it goes) then live in this liminal space forever.

FinbarS · 05/03/2025 15:28

It won’t get better. She clearly isn’t into sex that much. You should have stuck to your guns when you left her last time.

EarsUpTailUp · 05/03/2025 15:32

Your wife has had years of pregnancy, pnd, contraception (with its various side effects), small children, one which was your contraception responsibility, and you’ve summed this up in a post that’s about you and your sex life.

I’ve lived long enough to see this scenario play out time and time again. Sex for women after all that can feel traumatic, doubly so when you’re fully aware that not only are you responsible for your children, but also your husband. The pressure can be unbelievable.

If she’s willing to go down a couples therapy path then try that, but I’m sure you’re on the route to justifying your way out of the marriage.

Crikeyalmighty · 05/03/2025 15:32

@DarkMagicStars yep I feel like that- I'm honest about it but am 63 - to be honest haven't been bothered since around 50 - but yes 36 is young , hence why I gave the options as they are- you can't nag someone into 'sexual interest' - and I don't think ultimatums are a great idea either as you might just get a bit more 'disinterested' sex- which clearly isn't what OP wants-

OneMerryPoster · 05/03/2025 15:34

DarkMagicStars · 05/03/2025 15:01

Mumsnet is full of people who would be thrilled to never have sex again but they’re probably decades older than you.

Plenty of women also in your situation but people on here will encourage cheating or leaving in their case.

Thank you, I don’t know where they get the impression that I want a sex machine. I’ve spoke about an issue in my relationship. I love and respect my wife and I already stated that I don’t like bringing the topic up. So to be attacked as if I’m some lazy and unloving husband, is a little unfair

OP posts:
cheshirebloke · 05/03/2025 15:34

Reality is it's nothing to do with how much housework you do, it's just basic biology. Sex drive comes down to hormones - unless you've given her the ick, she'd want it herself. It's true that some women withhold sex as a form of abuse or control, but doesn't sound to be the case here. Once women have kids their sex drive tends to drop (nature's contraceptive). Twelve times a year when you've got young kids doesn't sound terrible. Good chance it'll pick up again when she reaches peri menopause, if you're prepared to wait that long. After menopause it might disappear again though, so make the most of that window!

Beyond that, only thing you can do is make sure you're making the sex good for her - if she's not biting on the pillows to stop the kids overhearing her, you're probably doing it wrong. People tend to want more of a good thing, if it's mediocre they'll lose interest.

Velvian · 05/03/2025 15:34

FinbarS · 05/03/2025 15:28

It won’t get better. She clearly isn’t into sex that much. You should have stuck to your guns when you left her last time.

She may actually find that is really into sex once she has the freedom of choice. Responsibility for another person's libido is a heavy weight.

Crikeyalmighty · 05/03/2025 15:41

@OneMerryPoster honestly OP as I've posted here, I don't think what you do or don't do makes any difference in many cases- I certainly don't have you down as lazy or uncaring. Once those hormones drop for some women it just isn't particularly something they are bothered about/ find that pleasurable - honestly you could be an Adonis and they would feel the same- I find 24/7 relationships married or living together have made me feel the same every single time after 3 or 4 years ( andthat's 2 marriages and a 4 year live together relationship in the middle) -

WhatAliceSaid · 05/03/2025 15:53

If you felt like you were pressuring her it’s because you were. You’ve also acknowledged the link between having a conversation and sex happening a few days later and that indicates she feels obligated. You have probably severely damaged your relationship by hassling her.

I married someone in my twenties who I came to realise I wasn’t at all attracted to, and we followed the same cycle of conversations and pity sex as you and your wife until we divorced. He dragged me to marriage counselling and the gp which made things worse. Had I not had an accidental pregnancy it probably would have fizzled out early on. Perhaps it’s the same for your wife.

For whatever reason she’s not attracted to you. You can’t talk, cajole or pressure someone into being attracted to you.

Accept it, or separate.

Plantmother71 · 05/03/2025 16:06

Whose idea was it to try out swinging? I’m asking out of interest and am not being dickish - I’m just curious as you’ve said you’re not looking for a sex machine.

Ineedthesun80 · 05/03/2025 16:07

To Most of the pp I call bullshit,so if I man wants sex with his wife he’s a sex pest?men get a connection to their spouse through sex it’s a simple as that,op she probably doesn’t fancy you, coming from a working mum of 4 I still make time for my dh as I know sex is important.

strawberrysea · 05/03/2025 16:17

Gettingbysomehow · 05/03/2025 14:12

You don't think you sound like a sex pest - well you are, you've threatened to leave unless things improve giving her little choice AND when you do have sex it's too forced and not good enough for you, so she is making effort but her effort isn't good enough.
My exH did this and eventually I just told him to fuck off and leave. It was a relief.
Seeing as "we" got pregnant which is impossible, only women can get pregnant and suffer the trauma of childbirth and the after effects and breastfeed, then you can have the kids 50% of the time when you leave and she can have a normal life.

Wanting sex more than 4 times a year does not make someone a sex pest 😬

Maitri108 · 05/03/2025 16:22

strawberrysea · 05/03/2025 16:17

Wanting sex more than 4 times a year does not make someone a sex pest 😬

Constantly asking for sex from someone who doesn't want to have sex and is having sex under duress, makes you a sex pest. The OP says she's often not enjoying it and wants it to end as soon as possible.

WakingUpToReality · 05/03/2025 16:29

It's true that some women withhold sex as a form of abuse or control.

What is meant by this? How does this actually play out in a woman's mind? I'm curious.