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Please help me unpick this insulting 'compliment'

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KnackeredOldCatLady · 03/03/2025 09:32

Have been dating a guy for about three months. We are both in our 50s and I am a couple of years older than him. All is (or rather, was) going well. We met via OLD.

The other day, he said these words to me:
'When I first saw you on our first date, I thought you looked old and that put me off. I then spent our date wondering if I could have a relationship with someone who looks so old. However, now that I have got to know you, I actually think that you look young. Younger than me in fact'.

He actually meant this as a compliment and was surprised that I was upset. Very upset.

And BTW, after our first date, he was very keen to snog me and pin me down for an early second date (asked if he could see me the next day).

So WTF????? Is this a LTB offence?

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AllTheTreesOfTheField · 03/03/2025 10:25

On one occasion, he looked at my bare feet and said 'oh, I see you have a bunion'. True, but maybe a tad unnecessary to point it out.
On another, he told me that I had rosacea, which had me scurrying to the nearest mirror to check for red patches.

So he's getting the result he wanted. Picking you apart bit by bit to the point of you 'scurrying to the nearest mirror'.

Imbusytodaysorry · 03/03/2025 10:26

KnackeredOldCatLady · 03/03/2025 10:24

No - not at all. He didn't apologise as he genuinely didn't think that he had said anything wrong. He just looked a bit bemused and tried to change the subject

Sorry but you are getting caught up
with dare i say, a possible abuser .
He knew what he was doing the pretending he didn’t think he did anything wrong, is an act.
He knew. And it’s not that he is nice it’s that he put an act on and only lasted 12 weeks.

KnackeredOldCatLady · 03/03/2025 10:27

PsychoHotSauce · 03/03/2025 10:02

And BTW, after our first date, he was very keen to snog me and pin me down for an early second date (asked if he could see me the next day).

This means NOTHING by the way. Years ago I went on a date, and he was telling me about a date when he'd been disappointed when she turned up. Described her as 'haggard' and not his type apparently. Then smirked and said, 'I still fucked her though'.

Just yesterday I saw a TikTok which amused me greatly. Someone overheard a couple on a first date. All going well, the plan was a drink now, then she had to go and do something quick with a friend, but she'd be back that evening for them to have a proper meet up. Except when the woman left, the guy rang his mate and was utterly slagging her off about how awful she was, but he fully intended to follow through on the rest of the evening anyway as she was a 'sure thing for a shag or two'.

Tiktok-er made a video saying 'If your name is X and you're coming back to this venue to see Y later, there's some things you should know....'

Anyway, what I'm saying is he probably wasn't interested in you, and only showed interest so he could get a quick lay. Now he's expressing his 'surprise' that actually, it turns out he DOES quite like you. Which is frankly disgusting imo but do with that what you will.

Uuurrrrgh - there really are some truly vile men out there

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Dita73 · 03/03/2025 10:28

Even if you decide to continue seeing him and everything from this moment on goes perfectly and the relationship lasts a long time,you will never forget what he said. Save yourself some time and ditch him

WhatDidIComeInThisRoomFor · 03/03/2025 10:28

It’s all one way isn’t? He gets to pick at and comment on your appearance. Have you said anything to him about his lack of hair or his excess weight? I bet you haven’t.

The fact he doesn’t understand that what he said upset you or apologised accordingly is the major red flag here. I would get rid OP.

bettbburg · 03/03/2025 10:29

Tell him that you've read an article about how men his age often fail to perform in bed and so you're going to look for a younger man who can meet your needs. Then block his phone number.

StrawberryDream24 · 03/03/2025 10:31

I am picturing his overweight, balding arse sat at home with a rubber "companion" doll, made to look 25, with perfect feet, skin etc. .....That seems to be where he's at.

Chuchoter · 03/03/2025 10:31

Any man that aims to make you doubt yourself or feel insecure is not worthy of your time or affections.

The door should be firmly closed in his face.

SuddenFrisson · 03/03/2025 10:32

KnackeredOldCatLady · 03/03/2025 10:19

The thing that is confusing me is that otherwise, he has indeed always been kind and polite. And he has given every indication that he is keen - he is always eager to see me.

HOWEVER, a couple of other remarks:
On one occasion, he looked at my bare feet and said 'oh, I see you have a bunion'. True, but maybe a tad unnecessary to point it out.
On another, he told me that I had rosacea, which had me scurrying to the nearest mirror to check for red patches.

He sounds as if he has all the social awareness, sensitivity and capacity for empathy of a shoebox.

I mean, how would he feel if you periodically exclaimed ‘Oh, you’re balding’ or said that when you first saw him, you’d thought you couldn’t sit through a date with someone so tubby?

Chuchoter · 03/03/2025 10:32

'He is overweight, balding and has a couple of health issues which are likely to have been brought on by poor diet/lack of exercise'

Unless you're a massive fan of Rab c Nesbitt, I'd drop kick this one out of your life!

KnackeredOldCatLady · 03/03/2025 10:33

Dita73 · 03/03/2025 10:28

Even if you decide to continue seeing him and everything from this moment on goes perfectly and the relationship lasts a long time,you will never forget what he said. Save yourself some time and ditch him

I think that's the crux of the matter. If we ended up in a long term relationship, then I would like to look back on our first date with fondness and romantic nostalgia. But that could never happen now as it's been trained by his comment.

I did try to make that point to him, but he just stared back at me blankly.

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AllotmentTime · 03/03/2025 10:33

He didn't apologise as he genuinely didn't think that he had said anything wrong.

Aaaaand twat. Bin him.

If you accidentally offend someone, especially someone you're trying to impress and want to be in a relationship with, you apologise if you accidentally hurt their feelings!!

AllTheTreesOfTheField · 03/03/2025 10:34

How about telling him that what with you looking so old, and your bunion and all, you've realised he could do so much better, so you're setting him free to do just that!

The backpedaling should be a sight to behold!

Kingblue · 03/03/2025 10:35

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KnackeredOldCatLady · 03/03/2025 10:35

Sorry, that should be 'tainted by his comment'!

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NowYouSee · 03/03/2025 10:35

There is no good outcome here.

Either he is deliberately negging in which case get in the bin.

Or he genuinely thinks it is fine to openly be critical/needlessly draw attention to where he considers you to be less than perfect in some way. In which case also get in the bin.

Kingblue · 03/03/2025 10:35

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lifeonmars100 · 03/03/2025 10:35

ugh, what a pig

Sampler · 03/03/2025 10:36

I know it’s difficult to meet men in your 50’s but this one sounds ghastly, if he is just plain rude and thoughtless then that’s bad and doesn’t bode well.
If he is abusive and chipping away at your confidence, that’s bad too.
It’s a no win situation OP. I’d get out pronto.

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SnoopysHoose · 03/03/2025 10:36

He is overweight, balding and has a couple of health issues which are likely to have been brought on by poor diet/lack of exercise
Fuck sake, do these men not have mirrors? they seem
to think they're still 25, the bin for him!

PoltergeistsStartLowKey · 03/03/2025 10:36

KnackeredOldCatLady · 03/03/2025 10:33

I think that's the crux of the matter. If we ended up in a long term relationship, then I would like to look back on our first date with fondness and romantic nostalgia. But that could never happen now as it's been trained by his comment.

I did try to make that point to him, but he just stared back at me blankly.

The blank stare compounds the issue.

Even if he genuinely didn't understand how he had insulted you, if he had half a brain, he would have apologised anyway BECAUSE you felt insulted by what he said.

He's single for good reason OP. You will be number 1,483 that he has spoken to in this way and moved him along so don't feel bad. He's a numpty.

Imbusytodaysorry · 03/03/2025 10:37

KnackeredOldCatLady · 03/03/2025 10:35

Sorry, that should be 'tainted by his comment'!

Why have you decided to stay or dump him ?
Has everyone managed to help
you unpick and do you believe the views ?

Kingblue · 03/03/2025 10:38

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Togglebullets · 03/03/2025 10:40

Trained by his comment is actually an excellent Freudian slip. That's exactly what these comments are about. He is aware that he is balding and overweight and that you are not. It makes him feel insecure. He needs you to feel shit about yourself so that he feels better about himself.