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Partner wants child for his legacy

185 replies

Almost40A · 08/02/2025 19:15

Name changed for this.

How would you feel if your partner/dh told you he wanted a child to continue his legacy?

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JimHalpertsWife · 09/02/2025 09:22

I'd think "wtf, I married Brian the binman, not Zeus"

TheaBrandt1 · 09/02/2025 09:24

Is he Henry Viii?

Figgygal · 09/02/2025 09:24

I'd think his words are less the problem and more the you don't want another child and given ages of your children I'd completely understand.

Almost40A · 09/02/2025 09:26

unmemorableusername · 09/02/2025 09:21

I've said similar on here (maybe in relation to wanting grandkids?) and got hammered for it.

Lots of people, men & women want kids for 'legacy' reasons as opposed to other reasons.

All reasons to have kids are valid.

If yours don't align, that's fine, you're incompatible. But his views & feelings are not uncommon.

but what happens if I can’t fulfil his legacy (if I can’t get pregnant)? Me and the kids are left with the possibility that he will either leave us or he’ll be miserable the rest of our lives. Such importance has been placed on this ‘legacy’ that other important aspects of a family life and relationship are put on the back burner. It’s a LOT of pressure to dump on someone imo.

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JimHalpertsWife · 09/02/2025 09:26

At this point you'd be best ending rhw relationship. He is being really vocal (in an awful way) about what he wants - marriage and babies, the whole 9 yards.

You don't want that with him anymore. Cut him loose.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 09/02/2025 09:28

Almost40A
re your comment

"For example when I tried to talk about childcare for when I would return to work if I was on maternity he says my parents and his family…my parents are aging and terminally ill and his family are too far away to travel back and forth every day. But there’s no discussing this with him, he thinks it’ll all just work out and we can rely on other people. It’s like he’s in a dream world'

That is because he is. What is he going to do exactly going forward whilst he thinks his family and your parents are going to look after this child?. It may well be then he really does start to treat his biological child far better than your own teenage children (who really do need you to be around for them too).

Is he really your Mr Right here because I cannot help but think he is your Mr Wrong. I would seriously consider if you want to remain in a relationship with him. What do you get out of this relationship now anyway?.

theduchessofspork · 09/02/2025 09:28

I think I’d have to point out there are no signs he’ll have a legacy.

I’m guessing he means the general feeling people have that some of them is carried forward in their kids.. but that’s really not enough reason to have them.

Almost40A · 09/02/2025 09:28

JimHalpertsWife · 09/02/2025 09:26

At this point you'd be best ending rhw relationship. He is being really vocal (in an awful way) about what he wants - marriage and babies, the whole 9 yards.

You don't want that with him anymore. Cut him loose.

He places no importance on marriage at the minute. Only his legacy. If he showed more commitment (marriage) that would give me more security that he wouldn’t just cut and run if I couldn’t get pregnant.

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theduchessofspork · 09/02/2025 09:29

Almost40A · 09/02/2025 09:26

but what happens if I can’t fulfil his legacy (if I can’t get pregnant)? Me and the kids are left with the possibility that he will either leave us or he’ll be miserable the rest of our lives. Such importance has been placed on this ‘legacy’ that other important aspects of a family life and relationship are put on the back burner. It’s a LOT of pressure to dump on someone imo.

OP this man is a pillock, just get rid of him

Emmz1510 · 09/02/2025 09:32

Is it to do with his family name? Because he might end up disappointed if you have a girl and that would worry me.
You need to unpick this with him a bit more. What does he mean by legacy? And does he want a children for the right reasons as well eg for the reward of creating new life, for the experience of being a parent?

JimHalpertsWife · 09/02/2025 09:32

Almost40A · 09/02/2025 09:28

He places no importance on marriage at the minute. Only his legacy. If he showed more commitment (marriage) that would give me more security that he wouldn’t just cut and run if I couldn’t get pregnant.

Ah ok sorry I read the bit about him wanting a big fancy wedding, abd assumed that meant marriage but yes there are men who use the "I want a big expensive wedding (that I know we will never afford)" as a way to opt out of marriage.

Still, same answer, I'd cut and run.

JimHalpertsWife · 09/02/2025 09:33

Agree with the suggestion upthread, even if just for shits and giggles, to bring up the fact that baby would have yours and their siblings surname anyways so what legacy does he mean?

Printedword · 09/02/2025 09:33

mitogoshigg · 09/02/2025 09:12

Forget the terminology, you know what he means, he wants a genetic child. All those scoffing here, if it were a woman with 2 step children you wouldn't think it was unreasonable for her to want a baby "of her own" would you!

Exactly, it's perfectly acceptable as a reason.

JimHalpertsWife · 09/02/2025 09:35

Having a child to carry on the legacy is an odd reason - it completely ignores the actual work involved.

gannett · 09/02/2025 09:37

It makes as much sense to me as any other reason I've heard for wanting children (ie, not much sense at all).

thepariscrimefiles · 09/02/2025 09:38

unmemorableusername · 09/02/2025 09:21

I've said similar on here (maybe in relation to wanting grandkids?) and got hammered for it.

Lots of people, men & women want kids for 'legacy' reasons as opposed to other reasons.

All reasons to have kids are valid.

If yours don't align, that's fine, you're incompatible. But his views & feelings are not uncommon.

All reasons to have kids aren't valid. What about purposely conceiving a child to save a toxic marriage? What about conceiving 'saviour siblings' to save the life of a sibling through live donations? Men (and it's usually men) who want to carry on the family name only seem to want male children. I don't think that's a valid reason to conceive a child. The normal reasons for wanting grandchildren are that it would make your children happy and it's another family member to love and cherish, not to carry on a 'legacy'.

GoldFishPocketWatch · 09/02/2025 09:39

Almost40A · 09/02/2025 08:38

They’re not my legacy and I’ve never thought of my children as that. They’re their own people and I’ve worked hard to raise them as such as a single parent and he has also as a step parent

You have your children, maybe the way he expressed this didn't make sense to you but it sounds like he wants his own children. Which is something you already have so I don't see why it is wrong for him to want the same. Although may not be what you want within your relationship.

Battisborough · 09/02/2025 09:40

To an extent I wanted children for legacy. As in I wanted to carry on my family line, I wanted family memories and stories carried on, I thought of all my ancestors had gone through and felt that continuing their genes was a way on honouring their fight to survive in some pretty horrid circumstances.

if that had been all I wanted then having kids would have been a bad idea. I wanted family life too. I wanted the hustle and bustle and comrades of a big busy household. But legacy was part of the decision even if “legacy” isn’t the word I’d use.

id be sad if none of my four kids have kids for similar reasons. Carrying on the family memories and stories and continuity would die as an aim. But of course I’d be most sad at, the more contest loss of not having the joy and busyness I hope being a grandparent would bring.

Dery · 09/02/2025 09:46

He was very clear from the start that he wanted children and I told him I was definitely open to it. Which was true. There have been times where we’ve been actively trying and I’ve been happy to, but then life got in the way, illness, parents illness, work stresses, and I just increasingly feel so busy and tired. I’m worried how I would cope to be honest, I realistically don’t know if I have the capacity to have another child without having a breakdown. I’m essentially working two jobs and trying to do the best for my kids. He is great with them and they love him, but has a tendency to check out of family life / interacting with me and the kids when he is having low moments.

The legacy comment just made the whole thing a lot less appealing and it is difficult to discuss the logistics with him. For example when I tried to talk about childcare for when I would return to work if I was on maternity he says my parents and his family…my parents are aging and terminally ill and his family are too far away to travel back and forth every day. But there’s no discussing this with him, he thinks it’ll all just work out and we can rely on other people. It’s like he’s in a dream world and if I want to discuss the realities of a situation I’m just being a party pooper.”

This is very helpful context, OP.

I think your partner is getting a hard time here from you and many posters for having expressed himself a bit clumsily. Having children is about reproduction. For most of us, our children are what will remain of our genes when we have gone. I think that’s what he’s expressing. He’s trying to explain why being a step-parent to your children does not entirely cancel out his wish for his own biological children. You and your ex-husband reproduced and it wasn’t an unselfish act on your part - it was about continuing your and your husband’s genes, even if you totally see your children as their own people separately from you. Which is absolutely fine - the world needs children - but you’re making an artificial distinction between why you had your own children and why he wants them which is unfair to him. Surely you can see that?

So yes, you’ve had your own biological children and you told him you were open to having them with him. You’re rethinking that and you’re absolutely entitled to do so, especially with his artificial hurdles to marriage, but instead of mocking his clumsy turn of phrase it’s appropriate to recognise that you’ve moved the goalposts. He wants something that a great many people want and that you’ve already got.

There are plenty of posts on MN from women whose male partners have changed their mind about having children and they are generally advised not to put a man ahead of children if they’re certain they want them.

A dear friend of mine was in your position. Her partner was great with her children but very much wanted his own. It took several years to work through but, like you, she ultimately felt this was not the right thing for her and eventually the relationship ended because her partner wasn’t willing to forego the possibility of having his own children.

No-one should have children they don’t want to have, and your reasons for your re-think are completely valid. But it seems a bit cruel to mock him for wanting something that you already have.

It sounds to me like your needs and wants may be becoming incompatible. He may not want to commit to you in marriage if doing so means he foregoes the possibility of having his own children. You very reasonably don’t want to more children without marriage and may not want them anyway.

GoldFishPocketWatch · 09/02/2025 09:49

Yes I think you are essentially belittling his desire for children even though you have known this is something he wants, because you have children already and you no longer want any more.

It's fine to not want more children anymore, but it's not wrong for him to still want them. It sounds like he has always been clear he does.

You also talked about him being checked out of family life, which makes me wonder if you think that as a stepfather he should be as invested in your kids as you are, which I'm not sure is realistic for everyone.

I think the problem is all of the other things you mentioned about life stresses etc and wanting different things now, not his desire to have children which is a valid and normal desire.

80smonster · 09/02/2025 09:53

Almost40A · 08/02/2025 19:17

Em….none. We’re completely normal working class people…

This is probably one of the funniest MN stories I’ve ever read. What an absolute bellend.

GoldFishPocketWatch · 09/02/2025 09:56

80smonster · 09/02/2025 09:53

This is probably one of the funniest MN stories I’ve ever read. What an absolute bellend.

Maybe he doesn't think that not being rich and famous doesn't make his family less important?

I'd say unless we are famous or of some kind of broader historical note our family essentially IS our legacy. As in our family is what stretches through history and something we're part of that is meaningful (to us)

Almost40A · 09/02/2025 10:03

GoldFishPocketWatch · 09/02/2025 09:56

Maybe he doesn't think that not being rich and famous doesn't make his family less important?

I'd say unless we are famous or of some kind of broader historical note our family essentially IS our legacy. As in our family is what stretches through history and something we're part of that is meaningful (to us)

Thanks it’s helpful to hear other perspectives

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biscuitsandbooks · 09/02/2025 10:07

@Almost40A I don't understand how wanting a baby to "have a family with someone you love" is any less selfish than wanting to have a baby to pass on your genes, though.

Pretty much every single parent on this planet chooses to have a baby for selfish reasons.

moose62 · 09/02/2025 10:07

Realistically, regardless of his reasons for wanting a child, he seems to place that as more important than marriage or anything else. More to the point, do you really want another child now?
If he can't discuss the practicalities of having a child with you, perhaps you shouldn't go down that route. Not everyone should have a child just because they want one.

If you don't, perhaps tell him that and see whether it is a deal breaker for him. If it is, perhaps he isn't the one for you.