@TwistedWonder @librauk @NervesOfCotton I do think some of it is pathological, they don't actually want a date they just want to say something mean and feel better bout themselves. Akin to being a young woman and having a bloke shout 'you're not as pretty as you think you are' from a car window.
I'm also only interested in proper connection only, so willing to wait it out. Last time I had a proper connection was just a year ago, so I know it's possible.
@justanotherboymum Hmmm... Some men are just really respectful/ a tad conservative, or almost wait for a very obvious green light. I've been told by men retrospectively that they assumed I wasn't interested in them, as I wasn't giving any signals. I just generally tend to talk, I don't do anything 'seductive', but I'm also used to men that are perhaps even a little predatory, when I think back, lots of decisive full-on surprise kissing, sex I didn't know to expect etc. 2000s dating, eh!
So either your guy just isn't that sexual, or he wants to feel safe in terms of knowing you're definitely into it before even kissing you properly. Perhaps some techniques to try to find out whether he's just holding back, or genuinely just a friend?
@BoxOfCats think the messaging really varies. I'm really into messaging so a guy that doesn't want to message quite a lot would have no chance with me. But also I know some people that really don't like to message a lot, plenty of men that just don't know how to text (but might be ok in person/ over calls) or think it's too much/ has no real purpose.
Think it comes down to your preference also, if you like a few messages a day but the other person wants to leave you hourly voicenotes, it might simply be too large a gap in comms styles.