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Dating thread 52 - 2025. Springing into Spring

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oldernotwiserffs · 06/02/2025 15:29

The Rules:
• The first rule about the dating thread is don't talk about it with people you're dating.
• Develop a thick skin.
• Do not invest emotionally too soon.
• It's all BS until it actually happens.
• Trust your gut instinct.
• People vanishing, lying & being generally weird is not your faulT.
• Know your wortH.
• If it's not fun, stop.
• Loo update is mandatory.
10. No dating the thread.
11. Treat others as you'd like to be treated
12. Any relationship you have that could get ruined by having a conversation about your feelings, standards and/or expectations wasn't really stable enough to begin with
13. The things you choose to ignore/ tolerate now are the reasons you will break up in the future
14. OLD can get very time consuming. Keep doing other activities you enjoy.
Optional: Please give your irons (potential dates you are talking to) nicknames like Mr Scottish. Initials are allowed (Mr S) when you are an item*

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orzo15 · 06/07/2025 08:22

I also don’t get dressed up for dates and much prefer a coffee/walk date for a first one. I have had too many past experiences of dressing up and going for dinner or even Friday evening drinks and then meeting them and knowing within a few minutes that I didn’t fancy them or have a connection. Luckily here in Denmark most people I’ve found suggest a coffee date equally as much as a casual beer after work date

KCYA · 09/07/2025 20:46

Hey all,

I discovered this thread as I’m fairly new to online dating and have found it so incredibly depressing already😂

Is it common for people to ghost you for absolutely no reason? Even after meeting, saying you’ve both enjoyed your time and never hearing back from one another? I’m not looking for a relationship or anything incredibly serious (the men I match with are on the same page) but why are people so crappy?

The lack of communication is something I really struggle with. I rather someone say, ‘thanks for last night but I’m not interested’ and block me instead of just ghosting. Ah, sorry, rant over. Hope I’m in the right place to express these feelings!

NervesOfCotton · 10/07/2025 00:16

Yes, KCYA It's common & we don't know why, really! You just have to get used to it if you want to do OLD & I know that's not very positive but it's the best advice that I can give on the subjectGrin
They won't all be like that. Hopefully!

orzo15 I wouldn't say that I get dressed up but I make a bit of effort. I wear dresses daily so I have standard ones & slightly nicer ones that I'll wear to go out to lunch with anybody or for a date... And I'll make sure that my socks aren't odd or my tights aren't laddered, as I usually walk around looking a right scruffGrin

I think that it helps me prepare for the date. Then if it doesn't work out, so what. I'm wearing a nice dress, maybe I'll meet somebody nice on the way homeGrin

justanotherboymum · 10/07/2025 06:04

@KCYAonline dating is definitely hard work but I do believe there are a few rare good ones in there. I hear ghosting is common but have never experienced it myself. I think it’s common for the chat to stop before you’ve met up (and I’ve done that myself) but once I’ve met up with someone I’ve never been ghosted personally. You are right, is is rude though and if I’m not interested I always reply saying thanks but I don’t feel we are a match. Definitely have to not get too invested!

NervesOfCotton · 11/07/2025 19:35

Grrr. 'Do you get time to date?' I can't stand that question. Hate it.

Just because I said that I can't travel abroad for a week each month. First chat that I've had for aaaaages on Bumble, too.

Profpudding · 11/07/2025 23:24

NervesOfCotton · 11/07/2025 19:35

Grrr. 'Do you get time to date?' I can't stand that question. Hate it.

Just because I said that I can't travel abroad for a week each month. First chat that I've had for aaaaages on Bumble, too.

I think it’s a fair question. I wasted 4 months with someone who didnt

NervesOfCotton · 11/07/2025 23:40

I know, I see your point Profpudding. I've also felt like I've had my time wasted by people who didn't have time to date at all, but they weren't honest about it.

I'm always completely honest about what I have & havn't got time for, right from the begining of the chat, so I don't like then being asked that question.

It's all fun & games isn't it!

ElleintheWoods · 12/07/2025 16:27

@NervesOfCotton is there any reason that person expected you to travel abroad a week a month? Surely barely anyone can do this due to... you know... life commitments? Family, work etc?

@Profpudding

On that note, do we feel there's a certain time commitment needed to date? E.g. beyond the first few dates, do we feel a certain number of evenings/ weekends should be kept free to see the person you're dating?

Also, has anyone had issues with schedues not matching, e.g. if you're a 9-5 Mon-Fri worker but the other person works most evenings/ weekends? Was it resolvable?

@KCYA in the situations you're describing, do you reach out and don't hear back? Or do you expect them to reach out but they don't? Did you have a feeling it could go somewhere with any of them or were you lukewarm about them? Is this on the app or messaging with phone numbers etc?

Profpudding · 12/07/2025 16:36

@ElleintheWoods
For me every week/10 days is the minimum to build a relationship.

Im the most flexible person in the world - self employed- wfh - older kids etc and its still not enough for some people. Not sure what the answer is, let me know if anyone finds the right balance

NervesOfCotton · 12/07/2025 16:48

ElleintheWoods He didn't seem to have any commitments, he said that he had got into the habit of just disappearing for a week a month & then got all annoyed when I said that it sounds great, but I can't do that as I have my kids (normally if people mention travel on their profiles then I don't swipe Right just to avoid situations like this) but this one didn't mention it & then once chatting, tried to claim that I didn't have time to date at all.

Yes I've had this issue a lot & Have never resolved it really. It's not always work just being a night owl/early riser etc. eg I'm always up early so trying to date somebody who likes to sleep until 2pm on their days off is never going to work for me.

Profpudding · 12/07/2025 17:40

NervesOfCotton · 12/07/2025 16:48

ElleintheWoods He didn't seem to have any commitments, he said that he had got into the habit of just disappearing for a week a month & then got all annoyed when I said that it sounds great, but I can't do that as I have my kids (normally if people mention travel on their profiles then I don't swipe Right just to avoid situations like this) but this one didn't mention it & then once chatting, tried to claim that I didn't have time to date at all.

Yes I've had this issue a lot & Have never resolved it really. It's not always work just being a night owl/early riser etc. eg I'm always up early so trying to date somebody who likes to sleep until 2pm on their days off is never going to work for me.

I always interpret men who say they want active women basically to mean that they don’t want fat ones, But actually maybe that’s what they mean. They don’t want anybody who sleeps till 2 pm on their day off. I’ll be honest. I’ve never met a woman who does.

TwistedWonder · 12/07/2025 17:49

The last guy I dated - for 18 months or so - was a cabbie and I work 8-4 do we only really saw each other at weekends but we made sure those weekends counted.

He usually finished early evening on Friday, drive straight to me and we’d either go out for dinner or get a takeout and share a bottle.

Saturday we would have a nice late breakfast, maybe wander round the shops, cook dinner together then go out either with friends, to a music event, to the local club - etc.. Followed by a Sunday lie in, leisurely breakfast and he’d drive home late afternoon .
We had several holidays and frequent weekends away too. That works for me rather than trying to cram in a couple of nights midweek after work.

NervesOfCotton · 12/07/2025 18:19

That's lovely, TwistedWonder You made it work for youSmile

It worked well with the postman who I dated as he started work early & finished early so we had the late afternoon/evening (& he still woke up early on his day off!)

TwistedWonder · 12/07/2025 18:24

NervesOfCotton · 12/07/2025 18:19

That's lovely, TwistedWonder You made it work for youSmile

It worked well with the postman who I dated as he started work early & finished early so we had the late afternoon/evening (& he still woke up early on his day off!)

It did work for us at the time. Unfortunately he turned out to be a bit of a twat but it was fun while it lasted 😂😂

NervesOfCotton · 12/07/2025 18:26

TwistedWonder Mine too! I realised after I posted that I actually dated another postie years ago, so maybe I'm a bit of a postie groupieGrin

ElleintheWoods · 12/07/2025 18:38

@TwistedWonder Nice :) I guess it depends on distance as well, right? So if you are dating someone, would you generally expect them to make time for you every weekend? And say if they had a very involved hobby, e.g. competing in a sport every weekend with national travel, how would you feel about something like that?

I just sometimes wonder how people that work in entertainment, sports, hospitality, night shifts etc find dating, do they almost date the same industry/ same working pattern?

@Profpudding Hmmm not sure, maybe, but I know some men that just like to be out in nature a lot, i.e. weekend is hiking-running-bikerides, and they just want to share these things with a partner, as they've had the experience of not sharing these things and then different lifestyles ruining the relationships.

I'm a big hiker myself and honestly I couldn't be with a guy that can't do a 4-5 hike almost every Saturday. This for me is top quality couple time, you can talk about absolutely everything, no phones, no distractions... I do quite like a dadbod though, so they definitely don't have to be fit, just active.

Mr Workcrush would wake up at 2pm after a night out and tell me how it was 'impressive' I had hiked 20k. Despite how adorable he was I think in the long-term we'd have annoyed each other!!

@NervesOfCotton Oh, what time do you wake up? 5-6am for me... If someone slept til 2pm, I'd have already been out and done my thing by then in all likelihood. Are there many of these guys around beyond age 35 though?

I wonder if that person was trying to imply that because you have kids, you won't have time to date. Which is still pretty rubbish.

My ex with kids had very limited time to date, also because we work very different hours, but he was very up front about it.

Sometimes I wonder if I have time to date. Someone's just asked me about my plans next week and I'm not really free til Sunday.Though for the right person I'd probably cancel the odd thing.

TwistedWonder · 12/07/2025 18:53

Tbh I’m not interested in a full on relationship now so if I did think about meeting anybody, seeing them every other weekend or working around each others lifestyle would suit me.

Though someone having a time consuming hobby wouldn’t be for me. I’m not a sporty/outdoorsy sort of girl so anyone who’s a keen hiker, kayaker, cyclist etc our lifestyles just wouldn’t match.

Tbh I can’t see me ever having another relationship. I’m no longer on the apps and I’ve been single and very content for 5 years . I can’t imagine that changing

NervesOfCotton · 12/07/2025 18:57

ElleintheWoods Your last sentence is it, It's compromise & fitting somebody else into your life, in the hope that it will lead to something lovely for both of you.

I've had times previously (not now) where I really have had very limited time to date, due to my kids but again, I mentioned this instantly & am completely upfront, to any men.

My age range is 39-50 & I think a lot of men are just set in their ways by this age tbh... I just seem to attract the ones who game all night & sleep half of the day, I think!

I wake up naturally at 6-7 latest. I'm happy to potter around, slowly get ready & meet for a date at 10 on a day off, but much later than that & I get a bit 'I'm wasting the day!' anxious.

I don't swipe Right on men looking for somebody 'Active' as I don't think that I'm active, as in I don't go hiking or do any sports etc. however I'm not sedentary & happily spend the day wandering through a country park/round a huge car boot sale/walking round a river etc, but I know that to others this doesn't count as being 'active'!

justanotherboymum · 12/07/2025 20:52

Having enough time to date is definitely a tricky one for me as I have (young) kids most of the time but will swap things around if I can. I’m finding it difficult to only see someone once a week though as I find I lose momentum for the enthusiasm I have for them if that makes sense! I don’t know if that’s common or just me. Oh I definitely wouldn’t get along with someone sleeping until 2pm, I’ve actually never heard of that so would hope it’s rare!

NervesOfCotton · 12/07/2025 21:08

justanotherboymum Don't worry, they seem to all be attracted to meGrin

It's hard isn't it.

I know what you mean. Personally I'd probably go for 3 times a week as long as we could make it work. Maybe 2 daytime dates & an evening one, once a week is alright as long as you can keep the odd text/phonecall whatever your preference is, going in the meantime.

ElleintheWoods · 13/07/2025 13:43

@TwistedWonder Yes I get you... I've been single in the sense of not being in a proper committed relationship for a few years now, although I've been in love and seeing a couple of people, and increasingly it seems like a sacrifice to be in one?!

I see people do the 'couples' routine and lifestyle and it doesn't really seem desirable to me right now, I love drifting in and out of it but not sure I'd like to live it. I see different men for activities and meals very regularly (platonic) and sometimes I amuse myself with thinking how it might be to date them, and about 20 seconds in I'm very much thinking 'haha, oh my god, definitely not!!'

Think as I'm nearly 40 and more set in my ways, I'd only really let someone in properly if I'm rather obsessed with them, sexually very attracted, and they have a very similar lifestyle to me.

Is there anything you feel you're missing? Are you still open to something very casual?

@NervesOfCotton Hmmm yes really hard to tell what 'active' means! But suppose their listed hobbies and pictures of them kayaking/ running/ climbing, or not, would probably help in getting a fuller picture.

Just thinking, are you maybe shooting yourself in the foot by excluidng 'active'? Because I feel like people use the word 'active' to exclude the couch potatoes. A huge amount of people literally come home, chill on the sofa and eat, rarely leave the house etc. You say you are hugely attracting those kinds of types. But maybe it's because you filter out the others, ones that have a bit of get-up-and-go, 'don't want to waste the day' in them? IMO we are not the majority, when I tell people I'm out at 7am doing stuff they look at me like I'm mental.

Many men also become huge homebodies as they age, so maybe in fact 'active' is your type from what you describe? Unless they are specific about wanting a mountaneering buddy 😂

@justanotherboymum @NervesOfCotton see I make a distinction, I think. There's 2 men last few years that I was really into, let's call them Mr Mechanic and Mr Workcrush.

I couldn't get enough of them and would have taken a holiday or reorganised my week to see them, wouldn't have minded if I missed the last train or incurred a parking fine due to being with them. I'd have wanted to see them even if I'd had a crap day and was tired, because they gave me peace and comfort.

When I tried to play the numbers game of dating, I realised it was very rare to feel that way. So I got to a point where I realised that if I wasn't aching to see someone and fitting them in felt like a task or I was unsure, rather than have my heart jumping wth joy, I was wasting their time.

Likewise, if someone had already met me a few times, and pushing dates with me around, I picked up they were never going to love me and just stopped making time.

Just based on my own feelings, I'd say that maybe I don't have time to 'date' generally as in regular outings in the hope of meeting someone, but for someone that gives me the right feeling I'd make time/ prioritise, even if I'm time-poor.

Let's not forget that dating has a financial cost as well as time investment, too.

NervesOfCotton · 13/07/2025 15:37

ElleintheWoods Yes, maybe I will try only swiping Left if they show photos of mountain climbing etc actually, going forwards. You may be right! (This is probably the subject that I am most cautious around tbh, due to negative comments from men about my weight etc on OLD previously)

ElleintheWoods · 13/07/2025 17:57

NervesOfCotton · 13/07/2025 15:37

ElleintheWoods Yes, maybe I will try only swiping Left if they show photos of mountain climbing etc actually, going forwards. You may be right! (This is probably the subject that I am most cautious around tbh, due to negative comments from men about my weight etc on OLD previously)

I'm sorry. Can't believe that's a thing! Don't you think it's weird generally how some men on OLD have body shape as one of their talk topics? IRL I don't think any man has ever brought this up in any context unless together for at least a few months.

Men on OLD just seem to have no filter... One told me about his ex's boobs quite extensively, another told me about his ex's weight loss surgery that he funded...

On OLD one guy asked me if I wear a bikini on holiday and when I replied something like 'no I prefer swimsuits as I like to go for a proper swim', he implied I had insecurities. Erm, no mate, just hard to do swim fast in fear of tiny bits of fabric sliding off!

NervesOfCotton · 13/07/2025 18:13

ElleintheWoods They are odd, aren't they!
I had one tell me (in the first few messages) about an older woman's saggy skin 'I had to tell her to get dressed as I just wasn't that desperate'. I said something like 'Thanks for sharing that. I bet that she was a nicer person than you, even with her saggy skin!' then unmatched.

Yes, I think it's that age-old thing of 'Say anything online but they wouldn't say it to your face'.

ElleintheWoods · 13/07/2025 18:34

@NervesOfCotton Oh my dear god... and these men think they are going to get a date with this chat? Or have they just totally given up and will basically just spout nonsense before getting blocked and reported?

I've also heard about this theory where some men basically don't make any effort on OLD to simply identify someone who's really desperate, and then get whatever they want from them. Not just sexual but also financial abuse etc.

Suppose the one I'm most shocked about from my OLD days is someone who's got quite a public role (think senior civil servant type) and who initially seemed really likeable on dates if a bit clingy, but then revealed some pretty weird attitudes towards women and their bodies for a left-wing politician. That was the one with ex + boobs I just mentioned.

Is anyone watching that new "Too Much" series, which is basically Emily in Paris, but in London and much more realistic? I feel like the 'walking red flag' male lead bears scarily many similarities to a boy I was desperate to shack up with last year! He even has the old-fashioned headphones setup and ciggies, and he's a little confused with a mysterious past 😂For context if I'd be a tv character I'd probably be Sloane from Workin Mums or Kate Hudson in Running Point so... No wonder everyone asked me "hey are you sure about this guy?"

Overall seems a good show about how not to do dating, relationships and marriage!

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