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Adult DD cut me off. Devastated

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Newbeginingssameoldshite · 31/01/2025 12:21

Eldest DD 25 moved back home after 4 years at uni last spring and a quick back story...

During her time away at uni I was diagnosed with a critical illness that I miraculously recovered from but has left me with life long health limitations. However during my illness I remained in employment (although off sick and living off my criticall illness cover which was substantially less than my income) and as active as I possibly could be.

In her first year she had to leave the first shared accomidation due to a breakdown in the relationship with her flat mates. She was tied into a year contract on the property which she had to pay (or i did as her guarantor)so I had to find new sioe occupancy accommodation and pay the rent for the year for her.

Second year she continued to live alone in the small bedsit from previous year which her loan covered.

Her third year she went into a house share with a small group of friends and all seemed to be going well until I became very very unwell and hospitalised and she made the decision to come home to help me rehab and to help with my youngest DD (15 year age gap) for around 3 months. During this time she commuted to uni.

However it came to light she missed her final placement during this time and she couldn't graduate without completing it.

During that autumn/winter I finished treatment and was given the all clear.

So this took her into year 4 of a 3 year course, I'd just returned to work with a huge amount of debt hanging over me from being off so long.
She insisted she stayed in the uni city (it is commutable and I had purchased a car for her to get around with) and it looked like Shenwould get funding again for this extended year. However after she had signed for a house share again the student loan was pulled and she was advised it was agreed in error. Again I'm the guarantor, she's unable to work as the placement hours are FT so I'm left to pick up the bill and I'm paying rent on 2 houses sending her an allawance each month plus trying to clear my debts. Against all odds she qualified and secured a well paid job in chosen profession.

She asked to move back home whilst she finds her feet. Bare in mind she is now working with a salary close to what mine is, which of course I agreed and welcomed her with open arms.

She really struggled being back home, doesn't have many friends and work collegues seem to be excluding her so spending a lot if time in her room.

I only asked for 50 a week board (token contribution) so she could save to get her own place.

I'm still in massive debt and I'm now working 2 jobs to repay them. ( over 50%:of the debts ae from me supporting her through uni)

Relationship feels strained. Everything I say is wrong, she's doing nothing around the house to help. (Pots left all the time, kitchen filthy after she's cooked separate meals as my food no longer good enough for her) every time I bring it up it turns into an argument so I stop mentioning it and feel like I'm treading on egg shells all the time.

She finally found a place of her own! (Its not quite ready yet to move into) And I've helped her with getting furniture etc. Even moved furniture into upstairs flat on my own with chronic illness and disabled.

We got into a disagreement in my car whilst I was helping her with stuff for the flat and she flipped out on me. My mum was Present and witnessed it all.

DD Punched me 3 times in the face and kicked my car. I should have called the police but didn't as it would ruin her career (dbs checks)

I asked her to leave my house and find somewhere else until flat is ready and pay back some money I had borrowed her ( a small amount, not anything from uni support).

Not heard anything for days until I get a cold text saying she is a better person without me and won't contact me again.

I'm heartbroken. I've litterally given my all for her. Gone without food to ensure she has what she needs. I've been there emotionally for every step of her life. And now she attacks me and cuts me off.

I honestly don't understand what I've done to deserve any of this.

OP posts:
Mumof2girls2121 · 31/01/2025 17:02

Just from reading your post I think it Sounds like everything is about you, your illness and what you do for her despite your illness.
my friends mum was like this and their relationship was forever strained and her mum was forever ill and talking about it

Ilikeadrink14 · 31/01/2025 17:08

Twatalert · 31/01/2025 14:36

How exactly do you think people become 'deranged'? Do you think people are born like this?

I can’t see what relevance your question has so I won’t try to answer it.

Mumsgirls · 31/01/2025 17:09

What am I reading? One poster wrote. ‘ it’s one thing if a teenager lashing out’
ridiculous and I have brought up two teenage girls, who were not angels, but would never have lashed out. Very low bar there. No one is allowed to hit you.
This girl has firm for it and it caused the op to pay double rent for her. One day she will hit the wrong person and get worse back. Op you have been way too
soft. Yes we help our adult children, but not go into debt for it. Would leave her alone until she offers a sincere apology and offers a payment plan for some of the wasted money. She will never learn if she never feels the pain of her own bad decisions.

Isometimeswonder · 31/01/2025 17:13

If her job needs DBS checks, does she work with children?

If so, that's very worrying

JoanCollinsDiva · 31/01/2025 17:18

Sorry you went through that.

But it has absolutely no bearing on what the OP has experienced. The dd attacked her dm as she wouldn't shut up and do as she was told. The OP says she was talking about someone else, nothing relating to her dd - and when the dd told her to shut up the OP called her out on her disrespect. This triggered the attack.

It sounds like the OP has bent over backwards to accommodate this young woman and is being treated appallingly in return. It's nothing like your situation.

Also, the dd has form for being violent in front of others - it's not like her mum is the only trigger but it seems any time things aren't going her way.

There doesn't always have to be childhood trauma for someone to be nasty and violent. Never having to take accountability for bad behaviour or facing consequences can also lead to adults who behave like this.

Nonaynevernomore · 31/01/2025 17:19

Mumof2girls2121 · 31/01/2025 17:02

Just from reading your post I think it Sounds like everything is about you, your illness and what you do for her despite your illness.
my friends mum was like this and their relationship was forever strained and her mum was forever ill and talking about it

I think life threatening illness has that effect! Why did she move back in with her DM I wonder? Why did it stop her cleaning up after herself? Why did she not stand in her own two feet?

So she took, took, took because her DM was sick? Selfish is what she is

If the DD has a DBS job and a temper like that, she’s not fit for the job.

JoanCollinsDiva · 31/01/2025 17:19

That was meant for Twosidesalways

JoanCollinsDiva · 31/01/2025 17:20

Mumof2girls2121 · 31/01/2025 17:02

Just from reading your post I think it Sounds like everything is about you, your illness and what you do for her despite your illness.
my friends mum was like this and their relationship was forever strained and her mum was forever ill and talking about it

Did your friend punch and violently assault her dm as well as others?

Onlycoffee · 31/01/2025 17:22

She's being spiteful in saying what she said. She probably feels like shit for how she's behaved so she's trying to justify her behaviour.

Maybe this is what she needs to hit rock bottom and actually sort her life out.

I'm not saying it's your fault at all op. It sounds like you have given and given to her, and she kept on taking beyond what either of you could afford.

Let her stand on her own two feet for once.

Yes it's sad and heartbreaking to be separated from her like this, but you both need time and space to heal away from each other 💐

CerealPosterHere · 31/01/2025 17:25

Sounds awful. Do wonder if the meltdowns, inability to accept criticism, etc is indicative of some sort of personality/mental health problem. Issue is unless she recognises this and wants help she won't get anything. I would find it very hard to forgive being punched in the face 3x like this. But no, I wouldn't probably report to the police.......if its healthcare or teaching and she gets a conviction she will likely be struck off. I know many will say she deserves to be but I'd still struggle to report.

perfectcolourfound · 31/01/2025 17:29

She said that to hurt you.

She needs some help to work on her anger and violence. She risks doing someone, or herself, harm and getting a criminal record.

You've done nothing wrong. You've been a great mum from what you've said.

I hope that she will find her way back to you.

I'm so sorry for your relapse - this stress won't be helping you at all. Please lean on your mum and and anyone else you can lean on right now, and don't expect to solve this problem right now. Look after yourself and build on your strength.

Would she be open to an approach from your mum, or are there any fanmily members or friends she might listen to?

WoolySnail · 31/01/2025 17:33

Nonaynevernomore · 31/01/2025 17:19

I think life threatening illness has that effect! Why did she move back in with her DM I wonder? Why did it stop her cleaning up after herself? Why did she not stand in her own two feet?

So she took, took, took because her DM was sick? Selfish is what she is

If the DD has a DBS job and a temper like that, she’s not fit for the job.

Given her inability to get along with others and her propensity for violence, I can't imagine she'll be in the job long.

BarkLife · 31/01/2025 17:34

Your daughter (a) has difficulty establishing and maintaining friendships and (b) is emotionally unstable and overwhelmed, with outbursts of anger.

She needs to go straight to the GP, OP. It could be ASD/ADHD, or she might need medication and counselling. Or both.

Moonshower · 31/01/2025 17:38

Her physical abuse isn’t acceptable and OP you need to consider reporting it.

To plays devils advocate, OP have you supported her emotionally, it’s all “but I’ve provided you a roof” and physical things you listed. Yet you could be constantly criticising her (yes telling her to clean up around the house is acceptable but delivery and tone is important) What if you are always putting her down about the housing situation, little digs or comments?

Not condoning what she’s done and she needs to take responsibility but I feel there’s slightly more to this than meets the eye.

JoyousPinkPeer · 31/01/2025 17:38

Op, your daughter on this occasion was totally in the wrong. Her behaviour is off the scale unacceptable. She has real mental health problems.

I hope you are a better person without me as you say, as you do need to be a much better person.

If you ever lay a hand on me again, let alone punch me in tge face three times, I will contact the police.

I hope you find peace.

WoolySnail · 31/01/2025 17:38

BarkLife · 31/01/2025 17:34

Your daughter (a) has difficulty establishing and maintaining friendships and (b) is emotionally unstable and overwhelmed, with outbursts of anger.

She needs to go straight to the GP, OP. It could be ASD/ADHD, or she might need medication and counselling. Or both.

This ⬆️ she should establish if she has genuine difficulties or is just an unpleasant person. She might find some help and turn her life around.

Chuchoter · 31/01/2025 17:39

If you let her get away with REPEATEDLY pinching you in the face then it will escalate and you risk being strangled or stabbed

I would report her.

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 31/01/2025 17:41

You need to report her.
A person prone to violent outbursts should not be a nurse.

Titasaducksarse · 31/01/2025 17:46

It sounds like she was behaving like a right twat for a while.
Was she totally unaware of how her accommodation issues and failure to sort her shit out put immense pressure on you when you were seriously ill.
Maybe I'm a jaded old cow but when I was 18 there was no way I was subjecting my mother, as a single parent with a low paid job to have had to support me financially. I was acutely aware of the situation....how come she hasn't been? It feels like she is very self centred to me.

MounjaroOnMyMind · 31/01/2025 17:47

The line that she is a better person without me really hit hard

That's why she said it. She wanted you to hurt as badly as she hurts. She was "without you" when she lived in the flat at uni - she wasn't exactly a better person then, was she?

When someone is in a temper like that and doesn't want to accept any responsibility for their actions, they will say what it takes to make the other person feel really awful, in the hope that person will focus on their own self-hatred instead of looking clearly at her.

Leave her be for now. She's made this decision and should live with the consequences of that. The fact is that she can't tell anyone that she punched you - she knows she was completely out of order for that. She'll try to justify it in her own head "My mum deliberately winds me up" etc but she knows that if told anyone what she'd done they'd be incredibly shocked.

Titasaducksarse · 31/01/2025 17:47

BarkLife · 31/01/2025 17:34

Your daughter (a) has difficulty establishing and maintaining friendships and (b) is emotionally unstable and overwhelmed, with outbursts of anger.

She needs to go straight to the GP, OP. It could be ASD/ADHD, or she might need medication and counselling. Or both.

Or she's just a horrible person. Not everything requires a diagnostic tool or othet excuse for behaviour.

BoundaryGirl3939 · 31/01/2025 17:48

She's not a better person without you OP, and you know that. That was only said to hurt you.

MounjaroOnMyMind · 31/01/2025 17:48

What's the financial situation now? I know you're broke as a result of her actions and your own kindness, but do you still make any payments on her behalf, such as phone, rent etc?

JoyousPinkPeer · 31/01/2025 17:49

Brefugee · 31/01/2025 13:34

I'd make her work really hard when she wants you(r money) again.

Sorry - she sounds selfish and horrible

She wouldn't get another penny from me! Enough is enough.
I hope you are not guarantor on her new flat as she will undoubtedly fall out with people at work and end up losing her job.

BarkLife · 31/01/2025 17:51

@Titasaducksarse

I disagree. Children (and adults) behave well if they're able to. Poor and erratic behaviour is usually borne of (or severely exacerbated by) unmet needs due to anxiety/ASD/ND.