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Adult DD cut me off. Devastated

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Newbeginingssameoldshite · 31/01/2025 12:21

Eldest DD 25 moved back home after 4 years at uni last spring and a quick back story...

During her time away at uni I was diagnosed with a critical illness that I miraculously recovered from but has left me with life long health limitations. However during my illness I remained in employment (although off sick and living off my criticall illness cover which was substantially less than my income) and as active as I possibly could be.

In her first year she had to leave the first shared accomidation due to a breakdown in the relationship with her flat mates. She was tied into a year contract on the property which she had to pay (or i did as her guarantor)so I had to find new sioe occupancy accommodation and pay the rent for the year for her.

Second year she continued to live alone in the small bedsit from previous year which her loan covered.

Her third year she went into a house share with a small group of friends and all seemed to be going well until I became very very unwell and hospitalised and she made the decision to come home to help me rehab and to help with my youngest DD (15 year age gap) for around 3 months. During this time she commuted to uni.

However it came to light she missed her final placement during this time and she couldn't graduate without completing it.

During that autumn/winter I finished treatment and was given the all clear.

So this took her into year 4 of a 3 year course, I'd just returned to work with a huge amount of debt hanging over me from being off so long.
She insisted she stayed in the uni city (it is commutable and I had purchased a car for her to get around with) and it looked like Shenwould get funding again for this extended year. However after she had signed for a house share again the student loan was pulled and she was advised it was agreed in error. Again I'm the guarantor, she's unable to work as the placement hours are FT so I'm left to pick up the bill and I'm paying rent on 2 houses sending her an allawance each month plus trying to clear my debts. Against all odds she qualified and secured a well paid job in chosen profession.

She asked to move back home whilst she finds her feet. Bare in mind she is now working with a salary close to what mine is, which of course I agreed and welcomed her with open arms.

She really struggled being back home, doesn't have many friends and work collegues seem to be excluding her so spending a lot if time in her room.

I only asked for 50 a week board (token contribution) so she could save to get her own place.

I'm still in massive debt and I'm now working 2 jobs to repay them. ( over 50%:of the debts ae from me supporting her through uni)

Relationship feels strained. Everything I say is wrong, she's doing nothing around the house to help. (Pots left all the time, kitchen filthy after she's cooked separate meals as my food no longer good enough for her) every time I bring it up it turns into an argument so I stop mentioning it and feel like I'm treading on egg shells all the time.

She finally found a place of her own! (Its not quite ready yet to move into) And I've helped her with getting furniture etc. Even moved furniture into upstairs flat on my own with chronic illness and disabled.

We got into a disagreement in my car whilst I was helping her with stuff for the flat and she flipped out on me. My mum was Present and witnessed it all.

DD Punched me 3 times in the face and kicked my car. I should have called the police but didn't as it would ruin her career (dbs checks)

I asked her to leave my house and find somewhere else until flat is ready and pay back some money I had borrowed her ( a small amount, not anything from uni support).

Not heard anything for days until I get a cold text saying she is a better person without me and won't contact me again.

I'm heartbroken. I've litterally given my all for her. Gone without food to ensure she has what she needs. I've been there emotionally for every step of her life. And now she attacks me and cuts me off.

I honestly don't understand what I've done to deserve any of this.

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AnonymousBleep · 31/01/2025 14:16

Oh my god, OP, this is awful. Your daughter has behaved appallingly. Clearly it's easier for her to blame you than face up to the fact that she needs serious help.

She's also been a massive financial and emotional drain on you at a time in your life when you absolutely didn't need it. She sounds absolutely vile to be honest, but I am going to be charitable and go with 'immature'. I suppose you should leave a channel of communication open, for your own peace of mind, but she'll come crawling back when she gets kicked out of her flat/needs money anyway. Which will happen. I'm really sorry, she sounds like a massive narcissist and it's screaming something like Borderline Personality Disorder at me.

SeaShellsSanctyary1 · 31/01/2025 14:18

You've mentioned her lashing out twice, once at you and on the company of others

Her DBS check is a level of protection for her employment and this leaves people who she works with vulnerable to her actions.

The assault should be reported

graceinspace999 · 31/01/2025 14:20

Newbeginingssameoldshite · 31/01/2025 13:24

Her father isn't in the picture and the falling out with flat mates was because she lashed out in a similar fashion as she did with me. There was a confrontation and she went into a meltdown screaming and punching things. Her flatmates obviously didn't want her around after that.

She doesn't handle.any form.of.critisim or confrontation rationally.

The disagreement arose as I was ranting to my mum about a situation in my personal life and she screamed at me to shut up about it and stop talking (the outburst was completely irrational, my own mother was shocked) I pulled the car over and told her to get out, at that point she turned and hit me, then got out he car and kicked and punched the car.

She has been violent once before when she was younger when I tried to discipline her by taking away her phone.

I do think she needs help...

I'm currently being investigated for a relapse scare on top of all this and I'm really unwell atm. I'm either Working 60 hours a week over 2 jobs or in bed sleeping.

I agree she has a lot of growing up to do but I'm heartbroken she has done this...

The line that she is a better person without me really hit hard.
Q

This is awful. Stay away from her - you need help more than her. You’re ill. Report her to the police and get a restraining order or similar.

She is violent and shouldn’t be working in jobs that need police clearance etc.

Time to put yourself first.

Floralnomad · 31/01/2025 14:22

She clearly has anger issues and needs some help . You should report the assault before she does somebody even more damage .

wizzywig · 31/01/2025 14:24

Are you now left to finance her past rentals? She will definately get back in contact. And she will not see anything wrong with her behavior. She will point out all your faults

lechatnoir · 31/01/2025 14:25

I would reply making it clear you love her but she has made some very poor choices and agree that right now some time apart would do you both good. Remind her that the only reason she's not been arrested is because you are her mum but if that ever happens again you will not hesitate to call them and press charges. Ask how she intend to make the loan repayments and whether she will set up a standing order or just send XX per month (a proper amount - £50 for someone in a FT job is ridiculous and wouldn't even cover her food bill)

She sounds very angry and I really feel for you but she really needs to grow up. I would suggest she might benefit from some professional guidance as she need to learn to control her emotions & offer to help her access that (I had an angry 18 year old - he's already in a better place after just 3 sessions of talking therapy)

Ineedashero · 31/01/2025 14:26

You need to report the assault, daughter or not, if she's working with children, the eldery etc then by not reporting her you are putting them at risk. It obviously may damage her career and relationship with you but that's on her, not you.
As for your debts, do you get PIP? You can get this whilst working (I do). It helps a lot with your finances.

Ilikeadrink14 · 31/01/2025 14:26

travelmadmum23 · 31/01/2025 13:09

Definately more to this story...

DD sacrificed her degree to move home and support OP and a younger sibling? Then suddenly starts punching her in the face?

Something off with this

I agree. I was on the verge of disputing this when I saw your post. I’m not at all sure it’s for real, but I seem to be the only one thinking this so perhaps I should shut up!

lechatnoir · 31/01/2025 14:27

Oh and I would also be expecting her to start contributing to clearing the part of your debts that she racked up at uni - if she wants to be out of your life then she can't be indebted to you.

Ilikeadrink14 · 31/01/2025 14:28

Floralnomad · 31/01/2025 14:22

She clearly has anger issues and needs some help . You should report the assault before she does somebody even more damage .

Welcome to the understatement of the year! Anger issues?? The woman is completely mental!

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Twatalert · 31/01/2025 14:28

OP you don't want to hear this, but it is likely some of her needs weren't met as a child when she was violent previously. Taking away her phone obviously resolved nothing, as violence comes from a place of not being able to handle certain emotions. Where did she learn violence? Was she smacked, was her father violent? Someone else in the family? She didn't need her phone taken away, she needed her parents, but punching has now become a coping mechanism because she did not learn how to deal with her frustration.

She's an adult now, so she is responsible for changing her behaviour. I understand you are devastated, but I very strongly suspect something massive went on for her as a child that she wasn't able to handle or process.

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ChampagneLassie · 31/01/2025 14:33

💐sorry @Newbeginingssameoldshite that must be awful to go through. I’m not sure that her lasting out is anything to do with you or the backstory. It sounds like she has a real temper and some sort of issue. I would give her space but write her a letter encouraging her to seek help. That this isn’t the first time and her profession requires DBS it’s obvious she’s risking behaving like this and being bared from work and having criminal charges. But she should do the running apologising.

Shadesofscarlett · 31/01/2025 14:33

assault and behaviour aside - she is rinsing you for money. This is so unfair. She should be contributing to some of these debts if they are caused by her. Why should you work 2 jobs and yourself into the ground. This is awful of her.

I hope your health improves.

Ilikeadrink14 · 31/01/2025 14:34

Twatalert · 31/01/2025 14:28

OP you don't want to hear this, but it is likely some of her needs weren't met as a child when she was violent previously. Taking away her phone obviously resolved nothing, as violence comes from a place of not being able to handle certain emotions. Where did she learn violence? Was she smacked, was her father violent? Someone else in the family? She didn't need her phone taken away, she needed her parents, but punching has now become a coping mechanism because she did not learn how to deal with her frustration.

She's an adult now, so she is responsible for changing her behaviour. I understand you are devastated, but I very strongly suspect something massive went on for her as a child that she wasn't able to handle or process.

Well ……..I think your username sums it up really! How can you blame her atrocious behaviour on her ‘needs not being met as a child’.
This woman is deranged. She’s should definitely be reported and should never be allowed anywhere near her family or her poor mother, who is probably feeling bad enough without you saying it’s her fault.
I don’t think I have ever been so angry about a post!

lifeturnsonadime · 31/01/2025 14:36

Bloody hell no matter what goes on in a persons childhood a 25 year old has NO EXCUSE for violence.

This thread is shocking.

Twatalert · 31/01/2025 14:36

Ilikeadrink14 · 31/01/2025 14:34

Well ……..I think your username sums it up really! How can you blame her atrocious behaviour on her ‘needs not being met as a child’.
This woman is deranged. She’s should definitely be reported and should never be allowed anywhere near her family or her poor mother, who is probably feeling bad enough without you saying it’s her fault.
I don’t think I have ever been so angry about a post!

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How exactly do you think people become 'deranged'? Do you think people are born like this?

MILLYmo0se · 31/01/2025 14:37

Was there ever any assessment or counselling after the previous lashing out incidences? She clearly does care about you given she put her degree and future career in jeopardy to move home, and care for you and younger sibling, but her life sounds so sad, to be stuck in her room with no life bar work while in her 20s..
You are obviously also stuck in a terrible situation too, no one can tolerate violence despite the fact you love her. I think you need to bide your time and hopefully she'll come back around, but she needs professional help before this goes so far it destroys her career or she wind's up in prison

lifeturnsonadime · 31/01/2025 14:37

Twatalert · 31/01/2025 14:36

How exactly do you think people become 'deranged'? Do you think people are born like this?

Yes some people are born with neurological differences which mean they are more likely to last out because they can't handle emotions.

But you are victim blaming.

Nothing excuses an adult punching their parent in the face.

user8432176409 · 31/01/2025 14:38

Doesn’t sound like she’s suited to a profession that need a dbs check OP!
I’d say enjoy the peace and concentrate on your recovery and younger child - you’ve baled her out from her own appalling behaviour several times, she’s in her 20’s not a teenager. Leave her to it.

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fashionqueen0123 · 31/01/2025 14:44

Newbeginingssameoldshite · 31/01/2025 13:24

Her father isn't in the picture and the falling out with flat mates was because she lashed out in a similar fashion as she did with me. There was a confrontation and she went into a meltdown screaming and punching things. Her flatmates obviously didn't want her around after that.

She doesn't handle.any form.of.critisim or confrontation rationally.

The disagreement arose as I was ranting to my mum about a situation in my personal life and she screamed at me to shut up about it and stop talking (the outburst was completely irrational, my own mother was shocked) I pulled the car over and told her to get out, at that point she turned and hit me, then got out he car and kicked and punched the car.

She has been violent once before when she was younger when I tried to discipline her by taking away her phone.

I do think she needs help...

I'm currently being investigated for a relapse scare on top of all this and I'm really unwell atm. I'm either Working 60 hours a week over 2 jobs or in bed sleeping.

I agree she has a lot of growing up to do but I'm heartbroken she has done this...

The line that she is a better person without me really hit hard.
Q

Jesus she needs to see a dr. That behaviour isn’t normal. Who’s next to get punched? The new boss? I thought it was telling she fell out with flatmates.