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HE ASSUMED I COULDN'T GO

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Flowercandy · 21/01/2025 05:36

Hi i been watching a streamer for about 6 months got to know everyone in his lives etc all his gifters and new gifters i also gift occasionally. He's set up a group meet for everyone. He assumed i couldn't make it due to living 3 and half hours away but also didn't invite me. Just said shame i couldn't go but i wasn't outright asked. Is this a excuse that he didn't want me going. However none of us live bu each other where all dotted around the UK. I found it weird that i wasn't asked even if i were to say i couldn't go.

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Dinosweetpea · 21/01/2025 08:25

Please seek professional help.

AyrnotAir · 21/01/2025 08:25

This is not a normal way for a mother to be behaving. Why are you wasting so much of your time and money investing it like that with this man.

You sound quite vulnerable and naive. I think you need to discuss this with someone in real life to get a bit of perspective. The fact you told him youl gift him in two weeks when you get money rings major alarm bells. Then he tries to call you to hook you in and build communication so you definitely do it.

This man's absolutely ripping the piss. He doesn't care you obviously don't have much cash if you need to wait two weeks till you get cash to gift him and are a single mum and will be wasting money gifting him that should be spent on your son. You need to step away from it all, it's absolute madness.

peachystormy · 21/01/2025 08:31

crashbandicooty · 21/01/2025 06:39

OP, you aren't listening to a thing anyone is saying. You are just obsessively steamrollering on saying the same things over and over. There is no chance that you are acting 'normal' towards this grifter. He knows you and the other women are all vulnerable by virtue of the fact that you are following him and gifting him in the first place, but you have obviously pushed it so far that you have even weirded an online scammer out.

This. Bunny boiler springs to mind

SoupDragon · 21/01/2025 08:31

'Gifts"? Sounds like a profitable scam to me.

GoldGuide · 21/01/2025 08:35

Why are you doing this to yourself?

Invest your time/money/energy into yourself instead. This isn't real (and deep down you know this already) no matter how much you want it to be.

Loungingbutnotforlong · 21/01/2025 08:36

I haven’t read the full thread, but I did read all of the OPs messages.

You are not listening to anyone. You are in a spiral asking the same thing over and over.

The fact is none of us know why he didn’t invite you- maybe he forgot, maybe he thinks you are too full on, maybe he knows you are ‘on to him’, maybe he doesn’t like you.

None of this is in your control. The only thing you can control is your own feelings and behaviour- block this man for your own health.

You have a child- you cannot be giving this headspace and emotional energy to a stranger

TwigletsAndRadishes · 21/01/2025 08:39

Flowercandy · 21/01/2025 06:27

But why has he invited ones that don't gift that makes no sence

Honestly? He probably feels a bit stalked by you. He's been nice up to now because it's how he makes a living. By pretending to genuinely connect with people who pay him for a form of fake friendship. But with you he's realised he's encouraged you a bit too much and now backing off because you are creeping him out. He does not want to meet you in person because he's worried he won't be able to shake you off.

He's now moved on to the new ones he can shmooze to start extracting money from them. You have served your purpose. Think about it, he probably does this to everyone eventually. The more people believe they have a genuine connection with him, the more they will pay for his personal attention. But at some point they will expect this connection to go to the next level, which he is absolutely not up for, so he'll withdraw his attentions and move on to the next person. Rinse and repeat, get rich, hustle, leave a trail of bewildered, gullible people in your wake.

HeadacheEarthquake · 21/01/2025 08:39

Is there anyone in your life you can tell about this that cam get you the help you need? You're unwell.

Crazybaby123 · 21/01/2025 08:41

Flowercandy · 21/01/2025 06:05

The other people hes invited don't gift much tho either i just found it a bit strange like we speak alot on phone and he says he frrls gutted i live far but i wasn't givin the chance to reply i couldn't make it i mean i could of got transport for all he knew

The meet up is probably staged, you aren't the only one I bet that hasn't been invited. He probably has invited either actors, friends or his top ten gifters to make sure they keeo giving him money. This is in effect no different from a romancr scam or pyramid scheme.

ThatsNotMyTeen · 21/01/2025 08:42

You sound about 12.

Block him, come off Tik Tok or whatever it is and try and engage more with the real world and not this nonsense

Coriol · 21/01/2025 08:43

OP, I would seek immediate MH support.

MoonWoman69 · 21/01/2025 08:43

Flowercandy · 21/01/2025 07:19

He talks bad about one of them and he stil invited her she's always pestering him to meet up and even stopepd gifting him but she's invited she stalks him phones him asks to meet 24/7 somethin doesn't add up

That's exactly how you're coming across!!! You are way too obsessed and invested in this sponger! You've ignored all the advice you were given and continue to blather on about him, not even acknowledging what anyone here has advised. You're just repeating the same old thing!
Why the hell do you want to test him by threatening to turn up uninvited, if you're no longer bothered about him?
Please please seek help, you're coming across borderline bunny boiler!

Maddy70 · 21/01/2025 08:44

He's weirded out by you. You're obsessed. Baby reindeer comes to mind

lechatnoir · 21/01/2025 08:46

New to the this (& the world of streaming 😖) and I really do fear for your child in this situation you don't sound mentally stable right now and this is clearly obsessive behaviour that is now impacting real life. Please get help. Go and speak to your GP or make contact with the experts at The Cyber Helpline.

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Flowercandy · 21/01/2025 08:47

I over analyse alot so i over think, it's not i like him im interest in someone in my hometown who i see this is the friends on the app where we all go ti his live and chat, there his gifters so am i, but I'm the one to far this is my point and i don't act at all interested i don't answer his calls off the app and just chat in his live stalkers ring and ring people and wouldn't decline outside communication from the app so im far from obsessed with him

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Flowercandy · 21/01/2025 08:48

He doesn't do video games its more interaction chatting to his live

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Figgygal · 21/01/2025 08:49

Honestly what am I reading?

Louw82 · 21/01/2025 08:49

You have to step back. You are infatuated with this person, whether you believe it or not. It's like you are addicted to him. You could get yourself in real trouble here.

If these people just wanted to be friends and weren't interested in the gifts they would just video call on WhatsApp. I'm assuming he's younger and all the people speaking to him are older and he makes you all feel special. If he's that nice why doesn't he have friends in real life, how does he have so much time to constantly be streaming online.

Please see this for what it is. You're paying him for friendship, no matter how little you're still doing it so he's not gonna drop you completely if there a chance he can get money or more intimate phone pictures from you.

You deserve better.

Dita73 · 21/01/2025 08:50

Every reply to you on here is telling you to stop,that you’re being ridiculous and this is a scam. You haven’t listened to a single person trying to help you.
I’ll be a bit more blunt in the hope that it sinks in.
You sound like an absolute nutcase. From what you’ve said,if you carry on this way he’ll get a restraining order on you if he’s got any sense. You are stalking him. He’s not interested in you in ANY way. You are wasting your time. You need immediate mental health intervention. This is not something adults do unless they’re seriously unstable.
You need to see your GP as soon as possible as you are very unwell

TopshopCropTop · 21/01/2025 08:50

Flowercandy · 21/01/2025 08:47

I over analyse alot so i over think, it's not i like him im interest in someone in my hometown who i see this is the friends on the app where we all go ti his live and chat, there his gifters so am i, but I'm the one to far this is my point and i don't act at all interested i don't answer his calls off the app and just chat in his live stalkers ring and ring people and wouldn't decline outside communication from the app so im far from obsessed with him

I think if you’ve started multiple MN threads about this guy and given him god knows how much of your money you are in fact obsessed with him.

jollygreenpea · 21/01/2025 08:50

Is this a thing,, you start watching a random on social media, then they start scamming you?

They get you to send money/gifts, maybe even talk to you, to ask for more gifts?

If this is how it works then I imagine it's only successful with lonely, vulnerable, insecure, easily manipulated people because no one in there right mind would fall for this.

OP wake up he's never going to invite you to meet up, that's not what he want.

Tereseta · 21/01/2025 08:50

Why are you giving your child's money to a stranger online. This man is using you and you are blinkered to this.

Toastghost · 21/01/2025 08:50

You come across like a stalker trying to explain why you’re not really a stalker. Is that what you want? You can choose not to behave like this.

HeffalumpsAndWoozlesAreHoneyRobbingTwats · 21/01/2025 08:50

Flowercandy · 21/01/2025 08:47

I over analyse alot so i over think, it's not i like him im interest in someone in my hometown who i see this is the friends on the app where we all go ti his live and chat, there his gifters so am i, but I'm the one to far this is my point and i don't act at all interested i don't answer his calls off the app and just chat in his live stalkers ring and ring people and wouldn't decline outside communication from the app so im far from obsessed with him

His "live stalkers ring" ey? 😳

gamerchick · 21/01/2025 08:50

Flowercandy · 21/01/2025 07:18

I did say id gift in 2 weeks as get paid but guarentted he'll phone me towards then im not gonna answer and just stick to chatting with the girls in the stream. I like people who ar straight down the line and not make excuses tell me how it is and not make excuses. He told me not to block him when i said im leaving all the Internet scene

Dude, it's time to put down the internet for a bit. Seriously, how much attention do you give your kid if you're living online and giving money to complete strangers?

Time to stop.

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