HE ASSUMED I COULDN'T GO

[Flowercandy]

Hi i been watching a streamer for about 6 months got to know everyone in his lives etc all his gifters and new gifters i also gift occasionally. He's set up a group meet for everyone. He assumed i couldn't make it due to living 3 and half hours away but also didn't invite me. Just said shame i couldn't go but i wasn't outright asked. Is this a excuse that he didn't want me going. However none of us live bu each other where all dotted around the UK. I found it weird that i wasn't asked even if i were to say i couldn't go.

Dear God what have I just read.

Why bother to post if you won't listen? And this isn't your first time asking for advice!

You have a son. Concentrate on him and yourself. A little less text chat with manipulative strangers and a little more real life would do you the world of good in so many ways.

Please wise up and quickly.

Why has he invited those who don't gift? Simple answer: because after meeting them he'll likely impress them enough that they'll start gifting as well. It's all about the £££.

Please block, delete and whatever else you need to do. You're being emotionally manipulated, none of this is 'real'. It's easy for someone to come across caring and nice and all that, but in reality it can be an act.

I thought Blue Monday was yesterday. And this thread makes me glad I don’t live in this type of online world in terms of giving money to absolute strangers.
It has highlighted, however, that there are vulnerable people out there who genuinely think the gifted person is their friend, and they could lead to a romantic relationship.
It must give a dopamine hit when the gifted person responds personally. Like being lifted from the crowd in rock concert by your favourite singer who then dedicates a song to you.
It must be a very lonely life to feel this way, and if there is a child involved and a parent is gifting money that is needed for the family, a real threat. As well as a physical one of the gamer here suggests interacting with the child.

I mean this as nicely as possible but you give off big stalker energy and he knows this. He’s milking you for the gifts and the money but when it comes to meeting you, it’s not going to happen, any “connection” you think you have with him is not real.

Get outside, touch some grass, stop being chronically online and get off the internet.

STOP SENDING HIM MONEY AND KEEP IT FOR YOUR FAMILY.

He is not your friend. He doesn't care about you. He either doesn't like you or it's because you no longer gift. The personality you see is not real. It's just for show. I think you need counselling and to join real-time groups. I hope you make friends soon and meet a love interest. That will distract you from this nonsense.

Having had a read through your other thread OP I am afraid it sounds like this streamer is taking advantage of you. Encouraging you to send money is one thing, I can kind of get that, its like busking, he provides entertainment and people give him money, its a transaction of sorts but encouraging you to send revealing photos of yourself and trying to encourage access to your son is another thing entirely. That rings alarm bells.

You need to cut contact, stop watching and stop sending money. Focusing on not being invited to the meet up is just a way of staying involved, if the people from the chat are people you want to stay in touch with that's easily facilitated, you don't need to involve this streamer at all. He does not make you feel good about yourself, he encourages you to do things you aren't comfortable with and he's costing you money you don't have. Get rid.

I bet if you stopped following him and gifting him money he wouldn't even notice or much less, care. Think about that for a second. You've got too much time on your hands. Get a job, meet friends in real life or read a book. Anything is better than this.

@Flowercandy Are you quite vulnerable in some way?

I haven’t read your first thread but from what others have said and what you’ve written here, you remind me of some of the people that I work with who are vulnerable to exploitation because of their mental health or neurodivergence.

What you’re describing is an emotional over investment on your part when it sounds like the streamer’s account of the relationship would be that it’s purely business.

There are a lot of these people out there, taking advantage of people financially and emotionally. I think you need some real life support and sit down with someone you trust to look objectively at these messages.

I remember watching a Dr Phil episode where people who had been scammed previously were re interviewed and the vast majority of them were homeless and their families no longer spoke to them but they would all still send money. It’s an addiction. You’ll end up homeless without your child if you don’t wake up.

He is either manipulating you into giving him more money or thinks you are a weird stalker. It is probably both.

Get some self respect and remove yourself from the entire situation. Find a new hobby that is entirely positive for you.

Bloody hell I just realised why things like robo blox are bad, aside the obvious pedo issue.

They're priming / teaching / normalising children to pay for stuff online that isn't real. Skins etc

As adults it won't seem so weird to do this with streamers. The most vulnerable will the most targeted

He didn’t invite you because he doesn’t want you to go, and it’s not surprising really. You sound obsessed and stalkery.

Because that's how a grifter works, you back off on gifting and they reel you you back in by making you feel like you are missing out on something.

I’ve now just skim read your posts in the other thread, I’m afraid to say that you’re a scammer’s dream.

Both you and your son are being put at risk by this person if you’re sending them money and photos. You’re making some really unwise decisions, you need to talk to your MIND worker about this and show them the messages. They should help you to work out what is OK / not OK and perhaps get some sort of of social and support network in real life which doesn’t leave you vulnerable to scammers.

He's an abuser taking advantage of you. He's taking the piss out of you. Please do the Freedom Programme. The only good thing about this man is that he isn't around you in real life. You are in serious danger of forming another real life abusive relationship unless you get some help.

You have a very distorted view of friendship. It is built on a network of attention giving and "gifts". Very superficial and not reflective of self worth. The fact you feel excluded , disappointed and hurt should raise alarm bells. Find friends in rl who can share interests and experiences.

He probably finds you weird and intense and doesn't want to engage with you.

This is quite a scary thread.

This. I feel like I’m reading the ranting of a stalker.

Oh dear. It’s worrying that people get sucked in this way.

As for meeting up, how reckless! None of you can possibly know that the others are who they appear to be. You would travel to meet a load of random strangers somewhere unfamiliar? What about personal safety?

Op, are you vulnerable , lonely or struggling with mh that this is such a measure of value?

You can’t help stupid. You’re waiting to be paid to gift him. What’s your child going without in the meanwhile?

Stop stalking him.

You have a kid and presumably real-life friends and family. Focus on those. Get a hobby.