HE ASSUMED I COULDN'T GO

[Flowercandy]

Hi i been watching a streamer for about 6 months got to know everyone in his lives etc all his gifters and new gifters i also gift occasionally. He's set up a group meet for everyone. He assumed i couldn't make it due to living 3 and half hours away but also didn't invite me. Just said shame i couldn't go but i wasn't outright asked. Is this a excuse that he didn't want me going. However none of us live bu each other where all dotted around the UK. I found it weird that i wasn't asked even if i were to say i couldn't go.

Some of the posters on this thread would do well to remember that this is a person with obviously serious issues and a history of abuse. It's not funny in the slightest and should be treated with some level of compassion, not the poking fun, writing in full caps as if shouting mentality. It bears no relevance whether she is 12 or 35, she's obviously very vulnerable and on a path of self destruction.
Yes, its frustrating she appears not to listen to the good advice that posters take their time to give but come on everyone, she's a human being. Albeit a very confused and unwell one.

I actually feel so sick that she gave this person her last money and had none left to feed her child.

How is this any different to a drug addiction, OP?? It isn’t. Get real help. Your child deserves so much better than this.

Maybe it's time to get some help to try to understand why you are fixated on this.

@MileyPsoriasis I understand where you’re coming from, but I have to disagree. Compassion alone isn’t going to help in this situation. Sometimes, being overly gentle or sympathetic can enable harmful behaviors rather than address the root problem. The gentle “boohoo, poor you, there there” approach clearly isn’t going to work here.

Cases like this are everywhere—people being coerced online, manipulated into sending intimate pictures, and then blackmailed. Have you not heard about that recent case where a father tragically took his own life after his daughter fell into this kind of situation and also committed suicide? The world is sick, and it always has, but the internet has given predators, scammers, and pedophiles an open platform with unlimited access to their targets. As a society, we’ve flung the door wide open and essentially said, “Come on in, no matter how twisted or dangerous you are!”

People like OP don’t need a gentle approach—they need decisive action. She’s vulnerable and clearly unable to see how dangerous and worrying her situation is.

I don’t think any of us can say anything which will make a difference now.
I have just read the last thread. This young woman is on a limited income and her child is going without so she can give this man money.
She says herself these meet-ups don’t even happen.
She says herself that he has ‘encouraged’ her into online sexual acts which have left her feeling upset and ashamed.
It is very, very dangerous and whoever this man is, he is clearly doing the same with other vulnerable young women. The money part is bad enough but the sexual grooming is dangerous, especially as he is aware she has a young child.
The OP says she is also talking to someone locally who she is interested in and again the language and tone suggests a real sense of loneliness.
The man in question is a lowlife.

She needs an i her emotion of she is putting the needs of a stranger she's encountered on the internet over and above the needs of her child.

I have every sympathy for when someone is unwell and is behaving irrationally but when there is a child involved, the op's warped thinking is dangerous and pussyfooting around her will not get the message home about how reckless she is behaving.

She needs some harsh words and to be shaken by the shoulders metaphorically to make her see sense that what she is thinking about this streamer is harming her child.

The ONLY even vaguely healthy thing for you to do is to STOP having anything to do with streamers, their fans and any of the culture around it. Send precisely ZERO money again, EVER. Replace the time you would have spent watching or messaging them with an interest or hobby that gets you meeting wholesome people in real life. And for the love of god get yourself some therapy, PLEASE.

You’re not listening to any advice on here, you just keep repeating yourself. Make up your own mind then 🙄

Apologies. I may have already posted this on the wrong thread but OP you should read this website. They define Fraud as any form of trickery used to gain advantage, often financial over another person.
They also have a support line which is online or by telephone on 0300 123 2040 where you can find out about more resources to help you and you can talk to someone about what has been happening https://www.actionfraud.police.uk/what-is-fraud.

I read your comment about him offering "a chance" for your son to play online with a real gamer for 2,000 diamonds - that's not him being "so nice". That's him being a sales man. I don't know how old your son is but it doesn't sound safe at all.
Do you have anyone in RL you can talk to about this?

You are STILL being manipulated by this man, @Flowercandy. Look at how you have reacted to the lack of an invitation to this event? You are gutted that you weren't invited and are so upset that you have started another thread about it. You have examined the people who have been invited, to see how much they have gifted him, to see if you 'deserved' an invitation as much as they did.

This is not healthy behaviour - it really isn't. All the time and energy and focus and money you have spent and are spending on this man are getting in the way of your real life. You are taking money out of your child's life and giving it to a stranger - how does he deserve gifts/treats more than your child deserves treats/gifts/activities etc? He doesn't!

And as long as you are focussed on this man and your so-called relationship with him, you are never going to get out there, in the real world, and meet real people, form real friendships and, who knows, maybe a real romantic relationship. This online stuff is a concrete barrier stopping you having a real life.

As I said on your other thread, I suspect you are addicted to this man and this online relationship. You have shown that you cannot give it or him up.

You need to go 'cold turkey' - remove all these apps/sites where you watch streamers, block this man and anyone else you are interacting with on their streams, and step right away from it all.

Do you think you could do this - for a day? A week? A month? I suspect that the mere idea of a day/week/month without interacting with this man and the other streamers is making your heart race with panic as you read this - that, my love, is addiction, and you need to face up to it. The only way to deal with it, is to stop completely.

At what point do you start putting your child first?

Please op reach out for help in real life
do you have a trusted adult in your life who you can talk to ?
you need to show someone this tread who can support you
fo you have a social worker ?

I think that you are still (or plan to, when you get some money) give him gifts and you sound absolutely obsessed. You're convincing noone on here that you're not.

You know the people he talks badly about to you? He'll be doing the same to them, about you. This is how he makes money, by playing favourites, pulling away from some to draw them back in, promising meetups that never happen. All he is interested in from all of you is what he can get, be it intimate pictures or money. He is farming you all.

The only thing you can and should do is block him, stay off this app and try to make a real life for yourself.

And all the while, the streaming scammer is laughing at all his blindly obsessed, gullible cash cow followers, with their heads so far up his arse they can't see the real truth!
He's in adoration mode, because stupid women are taken in by him.
I know a streamer who's 100% fame hungry and in it for what money he can get. He produces absolute drivel, yet the followers hang on his every word! Luckily, I realised where he was heading long ago and bowed out of our collaboration, left him to it and now do my own thing. Without scamming money out of anyone, or holding myself up to be someone that needs to be hero worshipped! It's got far worse since my departure. He even bought subscribers! I'm just happy to have viewers and I enjoy making video content on different subjects.
There's no way I'd starve my kid in order to buy someones attention.
But I think whatever we say, the OP will ignore it 😔

She needs some harsh words and to be shaken by the shoulders metaphorically to make her see sense that what she is thinking about this streamer is harming her child.

All that will do is make her leave this thread.

@Fencehedge Iain lee? The one who's now a registered counsellor? Did he send you dick pics? Recently? 🤢

So you no longer sent him money and you don't answer his calls or reply to his messages, is that right?

You're not invited because you're no longer funding him. It's as simple as that. You don't have a friendship with this man, you never had a friendship with this man. What you had was a paid for pretend friendship. You're no longer paying so you no longer receive the 'service'.

Ey? Where did that name come from? Did I miss a post?

As with your last thread, you need to stop watching and interacting with him, seek therapy or similar to break the obsession and put your obsession onto something productive.

OP. Here is another website where you can call or access online support to talk about this confidentially. I really hope you do talk to someone about this in real life. What this con artist is doing is really alarming, especially after hearing his attempts to involve your son, which (without hearing the details) could be criminal.

Forget the meet up. You said yourself that people gifted him to attend and the meet ups never happened, so why are you still dwelling on not being invited.

No matter how hard you find thinking about giving this up, please at least try to talk to someone about where to get some help before you make your mind up. You only have to talk to them.
https://www.mysupportspace.org.uk/moj

Everything you’ve ever written on this thread and on previous ones would suggest otherwise, as would the fact you seem completely incapable of taking in anything anyone has said to you. You just keep repeating yourself. These people are not your friends, this isn’t real!!

Just got thrown in. It’s clearly not him, although he does make my skin crawl!

Yes, I'm sure he was caught sending sick picks to random fans at one point right?

This is sad & horrifying in equal measure.

At its most basic, he can invite whoever he wants to something that he is hosting and doesn't owe anyone an explanation.

You are giving money & gifts to a complete stranger for nothing in return.

I hope you get the help you need for your sake & your son's.

Yes Iain Lee confessed on his Talk Radio show. Though years ago. He apologised and blamed substance abuse at the time. He was sending and eliciting naked pictures to various fans, also leading them on.

As a streamer he still asks for money, donations, has organised get togethers and has form for playing fans off against each other. His fans think they're his friends.

He currently also grifts on his Twitter feed for counselling clients, which feels off.