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HE ASSUMED I COULDN'T GO

660 replies

Flowercandy · 21/01/2025 05:36

Hi i been watching a streamer for about 6 months got to know everyone in his lives etc all his gifters and new gifters i also gift occasionally. He's set up a group meet for everyone. He assumed i couldn't make it due to living 3 and half hours away but also didn't invite me. Just said shame i couldn't go but i wasn't outright asked. Is this a excuse that he didn't want me going. However none of us live bu each other where all dotted around the UK. I found it weird that i wasn't asked even if i were to say i couldn't go.

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Cornecopia · 21/01/2025 10:57

Op you got a lot of support and advice on your original thread. This time around people are not as sympathetic- you have allowed this man access to your child, you have CHOSEN to give money to this man over feeding your child, you have sent him nudes, engaged in sexual videos etc.
you need to wake up before someone steps in and protects your child for you.

Tontostitis · 21/01/2025 10:57

He doesn't want or even like uou he just likes your money. Please please listen

Twaddlepip · 21/01/2025 10:58

Twinkiegirl · 21/01/2025 10:17

Although you could be a really young mother

She’s 35. 💔

Her poor, poor child. She gave this ‘streamer’ the last of her money back in September and had to borrow money for food. It’s just so unthinkable.

Bumblebeestiltskin · 21/01/2025 10:59

@Flowercandy do you have support for your mental health/needs? I suspect you're vulnerable and someone professional should be looking out for you, protecting your best interests.

SwerveCity · 21/01/2025 10:59

Please don’t send him any more nudes or any more money. Think of your child ffs.

Differentstarts · 21/01/2025 11:00

Its a manipulation technique and it's working you feel he doesn't like you as much anymore so you gift more money so your one of his favourites again

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 21/01/2025 11:00

I'm really sorry to see that you're still doing this, OP. Keep him away from your son and put a limit as to how much money you can give this man.

Very sad for you, you're worth more than this head-fuckery nonsense thinking that he likes you.

SonK · 21/01/2025 11:02

I feel sorry for your child... honestly I have been obsessed with this thread a little for the last 20 minutes and feel guilty for not spending those 20 minutes with my own child!!!

I don't know how you can place your son second to some virtual relationship that is probably based on lies.

Please block him on all social media platforms and focus on yourself and your child.

Go make your son some pancakes, go out for a walk together and visit the local library or video call the grandparents together...

please just do something worthwhile and good luck x

Twaddlepip · 21/01/2025 11:03

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It’s not funny at all. Not remotely. There’s a child here whose vulnerable and foolish mother is giving away the last of their money, not to mention nudes, to an exploitative man, leaving them without food.

I don’t think that’s funny at all.

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 21/01/2025 11:05

Seriously.

There is no helping you. You are obsessed. I genuinely feel very sorry for you. Please consider trying to find someone to help you.

He didn't invite you because you aren't (hopefully) giving him money.

He wants money.

It is thst simple.

He doesn't give a flying fuck about you or any of the other idiots throwing their money away.

Elderflower14 · 21/01/2025 11:06

Seriously? Giving this man money so you have none for your child? WRONG on so many levels!! Give yourself a good shake OP!!!!

Imisscoffee2021 · 21/01/2025 11:08

Either this is a wind up thread or this is a very obsessive situation, it sounds like the obsession extends to the other fans too. Comparing your level of obsession with theirs, or their more stalkers behaviour compared to yours etc isn't really a true measure of healthy healthy behaviour. Like addicts comparing addictions, you're still an addict if tbid thread is real

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 21/01/2025 11:08

Spend the money you would spend on traveling there to take your son out somewhere or do something nice for yourself. Try online dating to find yourself a real boyfriend

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 21/01/2025 11:09

It won't happen but the best thing to do would be to stop giving this poster attention and an audience to talk about this loser.

Sooner or later she'll wise up.

The 'toooo funny' post was pathetic and an obvious call for more drama. Ugh.

AyrnotAir · 21/01/2025 11:10

Op if you don't think there is anything wrong with this situation, please, please speak to your MIND mental health worker about this and tell her the full truth. You are really vulnerable and need help with this so he can no longer manipulate and consume you. You have put yourself at risk.

Chuchoter · 21/01/2025 11:15

You sound vulnerable. The streamer is a user and a grifter. He will say anything in order to receive gifts from
You.

This is not a healthy way to live your life.

Please block him and find interests outside of the internet. Join a club or a group and find a hobby, an outdoor hobby if possible.

TheEllisGreyMethod · 21/01/2025 11:17

In all honesty you need to grow up and focus on your child. Social media is clearly not healthy for you, delete it. If you're lonely find something in your local community like volunteering at your child's school. You need to focus on being a good mother.

Duckswaddle · 21/01/2025 11:19

Jesus what a sad thread.
Do you have anyone in real life that you can talk to? I feel like you need someone face to face to hammer some sense into you.
It doesn’t sound like you can make good decisions and I’m worried for your child.

nam3c4ang3 · 21/01/2025 11:23

this thread has made me so sad - its like watching a scam unfold before our eyes with nothing that can be done to help... Your poor child. Is there anyway anyone can help you with your child while you get some help?

SoupDragon · 21/01/2025 11:23

Flowercandy · 21/01/2025 08:52

If i am infatuated why do i ignore his calls and don't read messages from him off the app. Stalkers bunny boilers r on to any communication they can get i do not. I cba answering and messageing i just prefer the live chat

If you don't read messages and ignore his calls, how would you know you weren't invited and why do you think you should have been? You ignore him

also, yes you are gullible. This is a money making scam for him.

SushiWarrior · 21/01/2025 11:25

OP you sound really naive, and extremely gullible and vulnerable to be caught up in all this silly ‘gifting’ ‘streaming’ nonsense.
You need to look at this all from an outside perspective and see how silly and manipulative this whole situation is.
why are you wasting your money gifting a streamer? Why are you wasting your time/energy even watching someone stream and then getting upset over it and over involved.

I think you should go cold-turkey, stop watching and leave it all behind you.

MyDeftDuck · 21/01/2025 11:28

FFS.....has she still NOT GOT THE MESSAGE????
He is using you
He is robbing you blind
He is taking money that you should be using to feed your child
JUST STOP or risk having your son taken into care.

Mirabella7 · 21/01/2025 11:30

@Flowercandy perhaps if you are more ‘normal’ around him than the others, he’s realised you’re more sensible than some and not such a good potential cash cow. That and the fact that you’ve stopped giving him anything so he probably thinks his money making connection with you is dead in the water.Lets hope. Also don’t forget that some people (scammers) are charismatic, they’re good at appearing very likable and normal and a nice genuine person like you can find it difficult to quite believe that it’s a cold hearted con, it seems so real.

I really hope you take everyone’s advice and move on. Even though you like the other group members, you’ll make new friends.😊

Anonymus89 · 21/01/2025 11:32

If anyone has ever wondered how lonely pensioners fall victim to “lover scams” and end up doing things that seem reckless, this is exactly how it happens. It’s terrifying to see how someone can become so consumed by obsession and blind to the truth. No amount of advice, warnings, or pleas can stop them if they’re determined to believe in the illusion. Let this post be a stark reminder of how loneliness and desperation can make someone ignore all logic.

@Flowercandy this person is NOT your friend and will never be.

He is using you for money. Even if you think you’re not giving him much anymore, you’re still giving, and to him, that’s all that matters. The attention he’s giving you is purely to keep you hooked. If you die tomorrow, he wouldn’t show up or even care, do you understand that?

Please seek some help, get off the internet, and take steps to protect yourself from this toxic and harmful situation

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 21/01/2025 11:33

I've read your responses OP tho not the entire replies, but what strikes me most is what you are doing is the same as
Going into a shop and paying the shop assistant to be nice to you, to take an interest and chat to you.
You say you are gifting less and so the niceness/interest/chat have decreased.
You pointed out yourself that this streamer, or as I would call him "CON ARTIST" actually phones you at home around the time when he knows you will have just been paid.
You said you were in this group because you are friends with the other responders, but most of them are obsessed with this Con Artist and are stalking him, but you are not.
I don't think friendships with these other people, if they are obsessive and stalkerish, is doing you any good at all.

You have a child, every pound you give this useless bastard is money taken away from your child's well being.

You keep saying that you weren't invited to this meet up. Its glaringly obvious that the Con Artist is doing this to draw you back in, punishing you with less attention because you "disobeyed" him by reigning in the gifts and he's hoping that this will make you willing to start up again to get back in his good books. Be honest with yourself because that message is coming across loud and clear in all your posts.

If you keep focusing all your attention on this streamer and the meet up to such an extent, you will get hurt, and that will affect your child.
He already has your home phone number, and probably your name, address, birthday, child's name, social media etc....in chat over the time you have probably been conned into revealing so much information about yourself to this Con Artist.
You have put yourself in a very vulnerable position, he could be selling this info to online fraudsters, its exactly the kind of information they need to extract money from people.

You need outside help to detach from these people. This is not your fault, these people have honed their skills at drawing you in.
You said he's actually instructed you not to block him, and you seem to have obeyed. He is an abuser, even though he's online, it is easier to cut ties than if you lived with him.
Please find help and detatch from this group for the sake of yourself and your child.