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HE ASSUMED I COULDN'T GO

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Flowercandy · 21/01/2025 05:36

Hi i been watching a streamer for about 6 months got to know everyone in his lives etc all his gifters and new gifters i also gift occasionally. He's set up a group meet for everyone. He assumed i couldn't make it due to living 3 and half hours away but also didn't invite me. Just said shame i couldn't go but i wasn't outright asked. Is this a excuse that he didn't want me going. However none of us live bu each other where all dotted around the UK. I found it weird that i wasn't asked even if i were to say i couldn't go.

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TopshopCropTop · 21/01/2025 10:32

Just exactly how much money have you given this man OP? If other people have “only gifted tiny” it suggests your contribution is significant.

HeadacheEarthquake · 21/01/2025 10:32

jolies1 · 21/01/2025 10:30

Thank you! I thought OP was misspelling bingo and wondered who would watch a bingo streamer 😂

Yeah I thought it was a bingo streamer hosting an online game like on foxy bingo or something

That would have been less unhinged because at least someone wins a prize or something now and then

OliveOil2 · 21/01/2025 10:33

TravellingTartan · 21/01/2025 05:57

Oh darling. I remember your other thread as it was a brand new concept to me.

Had never heard of people giving money to streamers before.

You were given so much advice on that thread the best being "BLOCK AND DELETE".

He isn't and was never your friend, he a grifter only after money from you. If you're no longer giving him money, he's absolutely not going to be interested in meeting with you.

Please reread your other thread.

This is what you need to hear but seem unable to at the moment.
Try 2 weeks without any contact with the platform you use to stream from, block it, and block the phone number. At the end of the two weeks you can choose to unblock, but the two week break will do you a world of good and you'll have a clearer head to think.

Starlight1984 · 21/01/2025 10:33

jolies1 · 21/01/2025 10:30

Thank you! I thought OP was misspelling bingo and wondered who would watch a bingo streamer 😂

Same here 😂

FrangipaneMincies · 21/01/2025 10:34

Reading through this and it's obvious she's not listening to anyone. Deary deary me 😔

Fundays12 · 21/01/2025 10:34

Please block and delete him. He sounds like either a total con artist or a narcissist neither are things you need in your life. The woman you chat to might be nice in the group but they are not your friends. Please spend your time making real friendships with people.

supersop60 · 21/01/2025 10:34

I'm sorry OP.
I have read your replies up to about page 8.
It seems you main worry is that you have been left out and ignored from a weird friendship group.
Please stop wasting your time with these people, and look to build real relationships in real life.
And don't reply 'yes, but'.

SnowflakeSmasher86 · 21/01/2025 10:36

Flowercandy · 21/01/2025 06:13

im starting to think its not the gifts its me, because he's offered ppl who have only gifted tiny and not at all i think its just me tbh

I don’t think you should trust your thoughts and feelings on this. Others have given you advice (presumably that’s why you posted?) but you don’t seem to read or engage with any of it. You have serious problem here. Reread the advice from others and stop giving your money away to a stranger in exchange for attention. I don’t really understand this industry but it doesn’t sound a million miles from prostitution if you’re giving money in the hopes he’ll spend time with you. Yikes.

denhaag · 21/01/2025 10:36

Fawn87 · 21/01/2025 10:24

Well OP is also nearing middle age herself at 35 which is partly what I think makes this so concerning. I could maybe understand it if she was 20 and had grown up in the era of social media.

Oh, that's more concerning.
OP clearly has some problems and needs RL support. I hope she gets it.
I know we should all have agency over our decisions, but SM allows people to prey on the vulnerable.

LIZS · 21/01/2025 10:36

He will be "inviting" those who he thinks have capacity to give more, not living payday to payday, and probably a few plants to encourage them.

Fetburzswefg · 21/01/2025 10:39

I fear you are being used, repeatedly, and that it’s hard for you to see it. None of this sounds healthy or positive for you. I hope you can find the strength to block him and just move on from it all.

CautiousLurker01 · 21/01/2025 10:40

Flowercandy · 21/01/2025 08:56

I just thought i had friendship with them all that's all, they all seem welll well well more obsessed than me im no where near as bad if u think i am then imagine them as there fill full full full on.

Any friendship that relies on gifting money is not a friendship. It’s exploitation and a business. reading your posts is like reading my 19yo DD’s posts - autistic, fixed mindset/stubborn, very into SM stuff - and I wonder whether you may also be on the spectrum given your reliance on this blogger and his circle for friends?

Kindly, please stop sending money and join a Meet-Ups group, independently or associated with parents of kids the same age as you, and try to reach out and make real world friends locally to you. This person does not care about you the way you’d like them too. You deserve better but will only make real friends who value you if you connect in person in real life… and are not buying their attention.

AyrnotAir · 21/01/2025 10:43

TopshopCropTop · 21/01/2025 10:32

Just exactly how much money have you given this man OP? If other people have “only gifted tiny” it suggests your contribution is significant.

The last thread said something like £360 in a month and a half I'm sure and then had to borrow money from family for food to feed her son. She's also sent him nudes and done a live video nude. What's even more concerning is this man could be recording all this, which I'm sure given his tech experience he is and then selling all this online elsewhere of her and other followers he's getting to do it. As it won't just be her and he clearly has no morals when it comes to making money.

Op has fortnightly meetings with a mental health worker from MIND, was recently in an abuse relationship. Is a single mother to a child this man offered to hame with and is clearly very vulnerable so all of this is extremely concerning for her and her son.

RadioWhatsNew · 21/01/2025 10:44

@Flowercandy I mean this in the kindest way but you need help.

You've developed an unhealthy obsession with this man. I read your previous post, you had to borrow money from family and couldn't buy food because you used money to "gift" him.

You said you felt degraded after you did things on a call to him that he was asking and directing you to do.

This man isn't your friend he isn't interested in anything but what he needs at any moment in time be that, someone to pass his time, someone to get him off or your money. He calls and chats to you and others, not because he is a friend or because he is even interested he does it to make you like him, to think he's kind and nice etc which then lulls you into sending him "gifts". He wants to make you think that you are special and that's why he tries to call. He will be doing the same to several people but the reality is he tells you what version he thinks will work on you.

He's a manipulative grifter and you need to seek help and block this man and delete the app. Seek out social interactions in a safer space that isn't a magnet for grifters looking for vulnerable people to fund their life

Cattenberg · 21/01/2025 10:44

Flowercandy · 21/01/2025 07:19

He talks bad about one of them and he stil invited her she's always pestering him to meet up and even stopepd gifting him but she's invited she stalks him phones him asks to meet 24/7 somethin doesn't add up

OP, none of this is healthy. Stop watching this man’s streams, stop taking part in the chats and don’t gift him another penny.

Can you keep in touch with the other women without involving this man? If not, then it sounds as though he is the only reason for these friendships, and they would soon fade away without him. But that wouldn’t be a good reason for staying in this group. Many friendships are only ever destined to be situationships and that’s OK. Try spending less time with online acquaintances and more time meeting new people in real life.

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SheWasPureSound · 21/01/2025 10:48

AyrnotAir · 21/01/2025 10:43

The last thread said something like £360 in a month and a half I'm sure and then had to borrow money from family for food to feed her son. She's also sent him nudes and done a live video nude. What's even more concerning is this man could be recording all this, which I'm sure given his tech experience he is and then selling all this online elsewhere of her and other followers he's getting to do it. As it won't just be her and he clearly has no morals when it comes to making money.

Op has fortnightly meetings with a mental health worker from MIND, was recently in an abuse relationship. Is a single mother to a child this man offered to hame with and is clearly very vulnerable so all of this is extremely concerning for her and her son.

This is shocking! Someone from MNHQ needs to reach out to this woman.

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TopshopCropTop · 21/01/2025 10:49

AyrnotAir · 21/01/2025 10:43

The last thread said something like £360 in a month and a half I'm sure and then had to borrow money from family for food to feed her son. She's also sent him nudes and done a live video nude. What's even more concerning is this man could be recording all this, which I'm sure given his tech experience he is and then selling all this online elsewhere of her and other followers he's getting to do it. As it won't just be her and he clearly has no morals when it comes to making money.

Op has fortnightly meetings with a mental health worker from MIND, was recently in an abuse relationship. Is a single mother to a child this man offered to hame with and is clearly very vulnerable so all of this is extremely concerning for her and her son.

Thanks for the info. It’s all very upsetting. OP I really hope you can speak to your support worker about this and find help. None of this is healthy or normal.

LIZS · 21/01/2025 10:51

The last thread said something like £360 in a month and a half I'm sure and then had to borrow money from family for food to feed her son. She's also sent him nudes and done a live video nude. What's even more concerning is this man could be recording all this, which I'm sure given his tech experience he is and then selling all this online elsewhere of her and other followers he's getting to do it. As it won't just be her and he clearly has no morals when it comes to making money.

That is really disturbing. Where is ds when you are interacting with him? Is this not criminal, sexual exploitation?

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How can she have the cheek to say these other women are more obsessed than here too when she’s literally got no money to feed her child?! Shocking and disgusting

Chocachocalatte · 21/01/2025 10:53

@Flowercandy

What would you say to your child if they were in your situation and told you all of this?

They had given a random stranger from the internet money, money that their child would benefit from?

Cattenberg · 21/01/2025 10:54

AyrnotAir · 21/01/2025 10:43

The last thread said something like £360 in a month and a half I'm sure and then had to borrow money from family for food to feed her son. She's also sent him nudes and done a live video nude. What's even more concerning is this man could be recording all this, which I'm sure given his tech experience he is and then selling all this online elsewhere of her and other followers he's getting to do it. As it won't just be her and he clearly has no morals when it comes to making money.

Op has fortnightly meetings with a mental health worker from MIND, was recently in an abuse relationship. Is a single mother to a child this man offered to hame with and is clearly very vulnerable so all of this is extremely concerning for her and her son.

Oh gosh, I’ve just seen this post. OP, ignore what I said about whether you might be able to keep your friendships with the other women. It’s such an unsafe situation that you need to step away from the whole group immediately. Make a permanent break. And speak to your MH support worker about getting extra help with this situation.

reichs79 · 21/01/2025 10:54

You really need to get some help for you and the benefit of your child. You are coming across obsessed by this man. Stop giving him money and stop going on his lives. These aren't friends they've just all people lining the pockets of someone who is making his living getting money out of vulnerable people.

onwardsup4 · 21/01/2025 10:56

He's probably already took it as far as it goes with OP. Taken the "gifts" from her made her take nudes and naked video chats. Now her gifts have dried up it's onto the next vulnerable victims. I'd love to know who this is

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