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HE ASSUMED I COULDN'T GO

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Flowercandy · 21/01/2025 05:36

Hi i been watching a streamer for about 6 months got to know everyone in his lives etc all his gifters and new gifters i also gift occasionally. He's set up a group meet for everyone. He assumed i couldn't make it due to living 3 and half hours away but also didn't invite me. Just said shame i couldn't go but i wasn't outright asked. Is this a excuse that he didn't want me going. However none of us live bu each other where all dotted around the UK. I found it weird that i wasn't asked even if i were to say i couldn't go.

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honeylulu · 21/01/2025 09:58

Oh dear. I echo what everyone else has said: this is not a real friendship, it's a business where he makes money from followers.

But to answer your actual question (and this will be true for all types of circumstances) - if someone doesn't invite you then they don't want you there. At best, they overlooked you because they are indifferent as to whether you are there or not.

Please don't get a lift and turn up to challenge him. The poster who said "baby reindeer vibes" gave me the chills, because it sounds spot on.

Cornecopia · 21/01/2025 09:58

Flowercandy · 21/01/2025 06:27

But why has he invited ones that don't gift that makes no sence

You’re not listening to any of these responses. You need to seek help

EuclidianGeometryFan · 21/01/2025 10:00

You have posted over twenty times asking why he didn't invite you.

Let me explain.

The purpose of a meet-up like this is for him to increase his income from gifting. He will want a limited number of people there, so that he can 'work the room' and give enough attention to each person to encourage them to keep giving. So there is not unlimited spaces.
Having decided the number of spaces, he will look through his lists, and prioritise the ones who are the best 'sales opportunities', i.e. the ones he thinks he has the best chance of increasing income from. This is regardless of how much they already give. They may currently give a lot or a little, but he will invite the ones that he thinks he can get more out of.
In sales terms, you are not a 'promising prospect' for increased income.

It has absolutely nothing to do with how much he likes or enjoys any of these people.
In fact, he undoubtedly dislikes and despises ALL of them, including you.

I imagine when he gets together with his real friends, the ones he actually is friends with in his real life, he has a good laugh boasting about how much money he is making from all these stupid gullible people (to put it politely - I expect he uses much worse language).

Does that make it clearer?

MummyJ36 · 21/01/2025 10:01

I’m afraid this is giving full Baby Reindeer vibes!!

HE ASSUMED I COULDN'T GO
SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 21/01/2025 10:05

It is clear that the streamer does not want you to go to this meet up; we don't know why.
If you want to go anyway in order to meet the rest of the group, you could ask for an invitation or just turn up, but the streamer would probably be annoyed to see you there and unwelcoming. Is that what you want?
Sounds much better to just leave it.

Cornecopia · 21/01/2025 10:07

I Actualku feel concerned for your child op. So this guy has streamed with your son too you said on the other thread.

gamerchick · 21/01/2025 10:07

EuclidianGeometryFan · 21/01/2025 10:00

You have posted over twenty times asking why he didn't invite you.

Let me explain.

The purpose of a meet-up like this is for him to increase his income from gifting. He will want a limited number of people there, so that he can 'work the room' and give enough attention to each person to encourage them to keep giving. So there is not unlimited spaces.
Having decided the number of spaces, he will look through his lists, and prioritise the ones who are the best 'sales opportunities', i.e. the ones he thinks he has the best chance of increasing income from. This is regardless of how much they already give. They may currently give a lot or a little, but he will invite the ones that he thinks he can get more out of.
In sales terms, you are not a 'promising prospect' for increased income.

It has absolutely nothing to do with how much he likes or enjoys any of these people.
In fact, he undoubtedly dislikes and despises ALL of them, including you.

I imagine when he gets together with his real friends, the ones he actually is friends with in his real life, he has a good laugh boasting about how much money he is making from all these stupid gullible people (to put it politely - I expect he uses much worse language).

Does that make it clearer?

Yeah and the 'ill gift you when I get paid in 2 weeks'. Doesn't really promise more than you're giving.

Poor kid, wonder what he's going without for this obsession with a stranger.

Sassybooklover · 21/01/2025 10:08

The reason why he didn't invite you (and probably some others too), is because he knows you used to give more gifts. By not inviting you, it's made you feel unworthy, questioning yourself, and believing you may be missing out. He wants you to feel this way, so he can slowly reel you back in, to sending higher amounts to him. He knows you are vulnerable, and he's using well-known psychological techniques to manipulate you. Of course, he invited others who haven't gifted as much, if he didn't invite all those viewers who've stopped giving/as much, it would look obvious. By missing out a select few (including you), it makes it look as if you've done something wrong, or he doesn't like you as much etc. It's a deliberate technique that he's using, and he's very much aware that he's doing it. He's a nasty, cruel, manipulative man. He's doesn't give two hoots about you or any of his viewers, you are pawns in his game, of getting as much money out of people as possible. His tactics are working though.. you've told him you'll send a gift in two weeks when you are paid!!! You clearly can't afford to send him money, because if you could you wouldn't need to wait until you've been paid!!!

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 21/01/2025 10:09

This is all very very sad.

I mean this kindly but do you have a therapist?

Twinkiegirl · 21/01/2025 10:14

Flowercandy · 21/01/2025 06:13

im starting to think its not the gifts its me, because he's offered ppl who have only gifted tiny and not at all i think its just me tbh

Yes it is definitely you. I can see why.

OMG you’re a MOTHER!! I hate when people on here do the whole ‘what are you 12’ but I genuinely thought you were young and immature.

ChampagneLassie · 21/01/2025 10:16

I suspect he didn’t invite you because he thought it would get a reaction- ie you’d notice and start gifting again to get his attention.

Twinkiegirl · 21/01/2025 10:17

Twinkiegirl · 21/01/2025 10:14

Yes it is definitely you. I can see why.

OMG you’re a MOTHER!! I hate when people on here do the whole ‘what are you 12’ but I genuinely thought you were young and immature.

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Although you could be a really young mother

Butchyrestingface · 21/01/2025 10:19

I have read OP's posts (yes, all of them) several times and they might as well have been written in hieroglyphics, upside down and back to front. Everyone else responding seems to understand well now though.

Is it me? Is it my age (mid 40s)? 😭Take me now, Lord.

denhaag · 21/01/2025 10:21

You know those threads that ask what it is in life that makes you realise you're old or middle aged?

I think I've found my answer! I've just scrolled through OP's posts. It seems like a very shallow way to form friendships.

Dotty87 · 21/01/2025 10:22

You could give him all of your money, he still won't like you. Sorry but blunt seems to be required!

Honestly you sound like you really need to use the money for therapy and build your self esteem, you're being taken advantage of by a scammer.

denhaag · 21/01/2025 10:22

*Butchyrestingface *
We literally just had the same thoughts!

crashbandicooty · 21/01/2025 10:23

I just know that this guy is soooo mediocre too, and just has ready salted, insipid, waffly 'lives' talking about nothing.

Fawn87 · 21/01/2025 10:24

denhaag · 21/01/2025 10:21

You know those threads that ask what it is in life that makes you realise you're old or middle aged?

I think I've found my answer! I've just scrolled through OP's posts. It seems like a very shallow way to form friendships.

Well OP is also nearing middle age herself at 35 which is partly what I think makes this so concerning. I could maybe understand it if she was 20 and had grown up in the era of social media.

MissDoubleU · 21/01/2025 10:28

EuclidianGeometryFan · 21/01/2025 10:00

You have posted over twenty times asking why he didn't invite you.

Let me explain.

The purpose of a meet-up like this is for him to increase his income from gifting. He will want a limited number of people there, so that he can 'work the room' and give enough attention to each person to encourage them to keep giving. So there is not unlimited spaces.
Having decided the number of spaces, he will look through his lists, and prioritise the ones who are the best 'sales opportunities', i.e. the ones he thinks he has the best chance of increasing income from. This is regardless of how much they already give. They may currently give a lot or a little, but he will invite the ones that he thinks he can get more out of.
In sales terms, you are not a 'promising prospect' for increased income.

It has absolutely nothing to do with how much he likes or enjoys any of these people.
In fact, he undoubtedly dislikes and despises ALL of them, including you.

I imagine when he gets together with his real friends, the ones he actually is friends with in his real life, he has a good laugh boasting about how much money he is making from all these stupid gullible people (to put it politely - I expect he uses much worse language).

Does that make it clearer?

This is the correct answer. OP is a vulnerable single mum with id imagine a limited income, she’s already given all she can and more. It’s even possible that this person is aware she is vulnerable and is trying to establish that boundary, if we want to assume he’s not totally heartless.

He is inviting people who have given less because there’s room for them to give more, if they feel closer.

OP, get help and focus your income on your child. You do not need validation from any celebrity, much less a quasi influencer type.

DazedAndConfused321 · 21/01/2025 10:28

You sound like a stalker, and very unhinged. You seriously need help. He hasn't invited you because you're obsessed with him and claiming to be in a relationship. Your comments and posts on MN are alarming.

Disturbia81 · 21/01/2025 10:28

This ties in nicely with the thread about what kind of people fall for romance scams.

Thewalrusandthecarpenter · 21/01/2025 10:29

denhaag · 21/01/2025 10:21

You know those threads that ask what it is in life that makes you realise you're old or middle aged?

I think I've found my answer! I've just scrolled through OP's posts. It seems like a very shallow way to form friendships.

I've learnt quite a lot from this thread. Apparently bigo stands for (or originally stood for) "before I get old" which has helped confirm that I am old. It reminds me of reading the phrase "slid into my DMs" and thinking that someone was stealing her shoes.

I do feel sorry for the OP who is vulnerable and persistently stubborn.

GivingitToGod · 21/01/2025 10:30

JohnnyRememberMe · 21/01/2025 06:03

Please block and delete this man.

I saw on your other thread that you came out of an abusive relationship. I can tell you from experience that you need to focus on yourself and heal.

I found the Freedom Programme really helpful..

THANK YOU

jolies1 · 21/01/2025 10:30

Thewalrusandthecarpenter · 21/01/2025 10:29

I've learnt quite a lot from this thread. Apparently bigo stands for (or originally stood for) "before I get old" which has helped confirm that I am old. It reminds me of reading the phrase "slid into my DMs" and thinking that someone was stealing her shoes.

I do feel sorry for the OP who is vulnerable and persistently stubborn.

Thank you! I thought OP was misspelling bingo and wondered who would watch a bingo streamer 😂

Differentstarts · 21/01/2025 10:31

If you send me a couple of hundred pound a week I will pretend to be your friend. Il laugh at you behind your back because there's nothing more pathetic then desperate people up your arse. But il be nice to your face

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