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Husband is unhappy

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Freckles10 · 19/01/2025 17:49

I’m hoping this is a safe space to have a bit of a rant/get some advice on my hubby.

We haven’t been doing well recently. Lots of arguments about my husbands expectations of me which I am apparently not meeting. ie, things around the house not being done etc (I’m a stay at home mum).

Money is a bit tight at the moment and his 40th birthday is approaching. We discussed some extravagant holidays which in the end we decided not to do because hubby said we couldn’t afford it.

I didn’t want the day to go by without celebrating so I decided to sell some things on vinted and raise the money to take us away overnight. I chose some activities I thought he would like and then an overnight stay.

I think he has hyped the weekend up in his head (he thinks I have, but I don’t know when he thinks this has happened as I’ve rarely mentioned it) and this evening I have told him what we are doing and he’s told me he is really disappointed. He’s said everyone he knows are having big holidays to fancy places and I’ve just booked an activity weekend of which it includes activities he has already done and that we could do any time.

He’s said I’ve basically just planned the weekend around what I want to do and he isn’t going. He’s told me to cancel the whole thing. Despite the fact that his best friend and his wife are joining us. That I’ve got a babysitter for our two children. That I won’t get a refund on the hotel. He wants the whole thing cancelling and wants absolutely no mention of his birthday. No cards. No gifts.

Im numb with shock. I genuinely don’t know what to do or think. He said he expected to be going abroad doing something like Iceland or Amsterdam…despite the fact we had said we couldn’t afford it. But then if I had planned nothing, I would have been the wife who didn’t plan anything for her husbands birthday!

so now I have to go to my mum and my sister and explain why I don’t need them to babysit our children. I need to tell my mum she can have the money back that she contributed towards the weekend away. And he has to tell our daughter why we aren’t celebrating his birthday.

My question isn’t about the situation itself - it’s about what I do next! Firstly, how do we get through this? I can’t just go “yeah whatever” because a) that’s not me and b) I’m genuinely so hurt by this. I don’t know how to be ok with it! And secondly, I’ve told him he needs to speak to someone. That I think he isn’t happy and that he may need to professional support. Has anyone else see behaviour in their husbands like this when they hit 40? He is very hostile at the moment. Small things make him so angry! He hangs the fact I dont have a job over my head but then says I can be off work as long as I want. I just don’t know what to do to make him happy! To make us happy.

I need to know if this is a phase, whether he is maybe depressed or having a crisis that we can work on or whether this is it for the rest of our lives. I’m at a loss.

OP posts:
PigInAHouse · 19/01/2025 19:37

Nina1013 · 19/01/2025 19:37

Do you have your year 6 child in a private school by any chance? If so, the increasing fees and VAT could be genuinely tipping him over the edge mentally in terms of financial worries.

Then he can use his grown up words and tell the OP that it’a causing him stress.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 19/01/2025 19:38

When he starts up with the woe is me routine, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UUjtrO70EXk&t=154s

CantHoldMeDown · 19/01/2025 19:38

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AyrnotAir · 19/01/2025 19:38

Tell him to stop being such an ungrateful bastard and to grow up and stop acting like a petulant child. HE was the one who didn't want to book an expensive break away and you raised money and booked stuff to do that you thought he'd enjoy and his friend and wife are coming. If he doesn't want to go he can cancel it all and let everyone know, including his friend and your mum who contributed to it.

grace2025 · 19/01/2025 19:39

Serene135 · 19/01/2025 17:54

It sounds like he is frustrated and a little bitter that maybe he can’t afford the things he wants e.g a nice holiday. A lot of people work with children. Could you start to look for work now? I’m not sure if that’s possible if the children are very young though.

It would have been better to just discuss what to do on his birthday and to that. I'd hate a surprise forced on me anyway and wouldn't go!

YourHappyJadeEagle · 19/01/2025 19:39

You won’t need a babysitter because he’ll be looking after the children.
You go either with the couple you planned to go with or take your mum and sister.
He’s behaving like a spoilt brat and should be grateful you planned and paid for something. He now doesn’t want a birthday so give him that— nothing.

Doloresparton · 19/01/2025 19:39

He sounds extremely childish and ungrateful to me.

My dh did nothing for my 60th. I’m an August birthday and everyone is always away so I’m used to it being forgotten.
I don’t sulk because I’m an adult.

I wouldn’t apologise and I wouldn’t cancel, your dh needs to learn that you won’t pander to his toddler tantrums.

LightCameraBitchSmile · 19/01/2025 19:40

OP - do you have free access to the joint household income?

Freckles10 · 19/01/2025 19:40

PigInAHouse · 19/01/2025 19:09

As long as he does his share of the childcare around working hours, and the OP isn’t stuck doing it all 🤷🏻‍♀️

This is what will happen - hence why just “getting a job” isn’t as easy as most think it is!

OP posts:
GivingitToGod · 19/01/2025 19:41

Freckles10 · 19/01/2025 18:15

I apply and search for jobs every day. But with salaries the way they are, there is no point in looking for a minimum wage job that won’t pay for my youngests nursery place (she only gets 15 free hours per week). I also have a daughter in year 6 and again, putting her in wrap around care adds to the daily cost of childcare which means I need a higher paying job.
I have skills and I am applying for near enough anything. I’m not proud. I’ll scrub toilets if it brings in the money but it makes no sense to take a job and still be in no better financial situation.

Very difficult time for you OP and u r walking on eggshells. U have clearly gone to alot of effort to arrange a weekend away and your husband is being totally unreasonable.
I totally get that it's not worth you getting a job that would barely cover cc costs (I have a family member in similar position).
It could be that your husband is super stressed but he can't continue to behave like this, totally unfair.
You need to have a proper conversation with him and he needs to be open and honest with you.
Take care OP, very important that u take care of yourself.

2chocolateoranges · 19/01/2025 19:41

Freckles10 · 19/01/2025 19:16

No as he would need to look after the girls and my eldest does competitive dancing so I need to be around to take her to that.

That’s what parents do! They look after their children.

for 15 years I worked in hospitality dh came home at 5pm and I went out the door at 5.15pm, 3 evenings a week . By doing this he has an amazing bond with both our children and both children loved their dad only time.

sacrifices have to be made all round so that both parents are working together,

However he’s a grown man and really shouldn’t be stropping about his birthday, he’s an adult, just speak and sort it between you. I personally wouldn’t put up with a sulking , ungrateful man.

Tiswa · 19/01/2025 19:41

Freckles10 · 19/01/2025 19:40

This is what will happen - hence why just “getting a job” isn’t as easy as most think it is!

No it isn’t as easy as HE thinks it is

the reason I question if he is abusive is that he seems to have fixed views that you cannot and will not challenge and will bend yourself into knots in order to achieve

yiu sold stuff for him and it still wasn’t enough

Freckles10 · 19/01/2025 19:44

EnjoythemoneyJane · 19/01/2025 19:10

Mid-life crisis for sure. 40 is a biggie for some people (seems IME to be 40 for men and 50 for women).

He’s doing that thing that men who are principal earners often seem to do: agreeing to (and often driving) decisions around outgoings - the mortgage, the cars, the school fees, yada yada - and then being surprised your family finances are overstretched and starts stamping his foot, looking for someone else to blame (you!) and wailing ‘what about meeeeee?’.

He feels like he’s working all the hours and earning well but the lifestyle he craves is still out of reach, so what’s the point? And he’s using his fear and frustration and disappointment as a stick to beat you with, which is not only unfair and ungrateful, it’s deeply unattractive.

Throwing all his toys out of the pram over a celebration you’ve tried to make special on a budget (at his insistence), and then humiliating you by cancelling plans with everyone and sulking, even in front of the kids, is just arsewipe behaviour of the highest order.

You sound lovely, OP. Don’t do anything for his birthday. Cancel what you can, recoup what you can and scrape together what you would have spent having a fun weekend with your friends and give it to him to spend on therapy. Seriously. He needs to talk to someone to help switch his perspective, and soon.

And you definitely need to get that job, because if he doesn’t get his head on straight quite quickly, he may well be assuaging his disappointment with something worse than sulking - like an affair, which will also be your fault, naturally. Seen it too, too many times.

“He’s doing that thing that men who are principal earners often seem to do: agreeing to (and often driving) decisions around outgoings - the mortgage, the cars, the school fees, yada yada - and then being surprised your family finances are overstretched and starts stamping his foot, looking for someone else to blame (you!) and wailing ‘what about meeeeee?’.”

this!!! Absolutely this! In fact your whole response is so flipping accurate!

I just need to work out how to articulate the situation to my parents/sister who are supposed to be having our children as I cannot lie but I really don’t want to paint him in a negative light. The hey hold grudges and their relationship is already hard. If we do manage to make this work I need my family to support us no ly have a grudge with him.

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TunipTheVegimal24 · 19/01/2025 19:44

Leave the horrible man at home with the kids, and take your mum or sister away. I bet they'd appreciate going with you.

COL is tough for everyone - does he think he's the only one going on fewer holidays than he'd like?! What a nasty thing, to throw all that effort you've put in, sorry OP x

DreadPirateRobots · 19/01/2025 19:46

I think he is abusing you.

He has repeatedly put you in no-win situations so that he can punish you emotionally. He's deliberately boxed you in so that every choice you make is wrong. He encouraged you to SAH then uses your lack of income to lord it over you. He likes you powerless. He likes you in the wrong. It's where you'll always be with him.

You do need to start building back to working. You will need a way out.

Nanny0gg · 19/01/2025 19:46

Freckles10 · 19/01/2025 18:36

I’ve had this conversation with him too. And he’s struggling to see the value in what he has and that’s why I am really concerned for his frame of mind. He is a very different person to what he was 2 or 3 years ago. He has said things that I would never have expected him to. He has changed a lot and it’s adding to my concern about him. And unfortunately when you say something, it’s very hard to take it back. I don’t have a shadow of a doubt that he is a wonderful human being. A wonderful husband. He is just going through something and I don’t know whether I need to leave him to work it out himself or try guide him through it. Or whether something as simple as me working would fix it (taking some financial burden from him)

I'm not seeing the 'wonderful' I have to say

I'm seeing self-centred and childish

I assume your commitments are down to both of you, not just you?

THisbackwithavengeance · 19/01/2025 19:47

Serene135 · 19/01/2025 17:54

It sounds like he is frustrated and a little bitter that maybe he can’t afford the things he wants e.g a nice holiday. A lot of people work with children. Could you start to look for work now? I’m not sure if that’s possible if the children are very young though.

What???

No, he doesn't sound "frustrated". He sounds like an ungrateful, spoilt, spiteful cunt.

It sounds like you are blaming the OP. If only she has a job and was more understanding of his decision to completely wreck a weekend away then everything would be alright.

Don't get a job OP. If you don't have a job, you'll be able to argue to get a bigger % of your marital assets when you divorce him.

Hwi · 19/01/2025 19:47

Freckles10 · 19/01/2025 18:15

I apply and search for jobs every day. But with salaries the way they are, there is no point in looking for a minimum wage job that won’t pay for my youngests nursery place (she only gets 15 free hours per week). I also have a daughter in year 6 and again, putting her in wrap around care adds to the daily cost of childcare which means I need a higher paying job.
I have skills and I am applying for near enough anything. I’m not proud. I’ll scrub toilets if it brings in the money but it makes no sense to take a job and still be in no better financial situation.

Not really - a while back my husband took a minimum wage job and I was the main breadwinner, and his salary did not cover childcare at all, I had to pay extra, on top of his salary, but the atmosphere at home was amazing - I did not feel I was being exploited because he was working very hard too - it does not matter who earns what, as long as nobody feels the other half is taking the piss and using difficult childcare arrangements to stay at home. You say you would scrub toilets - it is not true. If you really wanted, you would have become a cleaner and cleaned flats and houses to suit your childcare arrangements. He is just sick and tired to be the only breadwinner, I can assure you.

PigInAHouse · 19/01/2025 19:48

Hwi · 19/01/2025 19:47

Not really - a while back my husband took a minimum wage job and I was the main breadwinner, and his salary did not cover childcare at all, I had to pay extra, on top of his salary, but the atmosphere at home was amazing - I did not feel I was being exploited because he was working very hard too - it does not matter who earns what, as long as nobody feels the other half is taking the piss and using difficult childcare arrangements to stay at home. You say you would scrub toilets - it is not true. If you really wanted, you would have become a cleaner and cleaned flats and houses to suit your childcare arrangements. He is just sick and tired to be the only breadwinner, I can assure you.

Then why does he keep telling her not to get a job?

Lottie6712 · 19/01/2025 19:48

I think his behaviour is vile. I can't believe how much effort you put in and how ungrateful he's being. Yes, he is the sole financial earner - but you're married and so there's been plenty of time and opportunities to discuss and agree (as a team!) whether you should go back to work. I'm surprised by some people's posts, which are treating you as if you've refused to work. I imagine it's been very convenient as a family with you not working and I personally think his behaviour is ridiculous. So what if his birthday isn't as glamorous as some of his friend's celebrations? What actually matters? You'd think spending quality time with his family...

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 19/01/2025 19:48

So he’s a very, very good earner and this man is angry at his wife, who is a SAHM, for selling her belongings online to pay for a weekend away, with everything arranged, that doesn’t quite meet his standards?
He should be ashamed of himself. He isn’t a glorified wallet if you’re not a glorified maid.
I understand why at this point OP isn’t working, she has time to do that, her youngest is very young.
He is pissed off he can’t brag to his ‘high value’ friends about this trip.
Thats the top and bottom of it. Imagine if these friends found out OP had sold her personal stuff to pay for it?
I know it’s hard but I wouldn’t engage any more about his birthday. Let him get on with it.
I would go with my kids and stay with my parents.
This man has everything - great career, lovely wife, three children, health, a beautiful home and because he didn’t get a trip to Amsterdam or whatever he’s kicking off.
Tell your friends there is no trip because it’s not good enough for him. Stop hiding who he is and how he is behaving.
There is something else going on here because he is berating OP for no reason.
Tell him to go away with his mates and do what he wants. He’s an absolute clown.

IWishIWasABaller · 19/01/2025 19:49

Sounds like your family have the full measure of him already ...

Twaddlepip · 19/01/2025 19:49

What an ungrateful shit he is. I’m not surprised you’re hurt.

He’s messed you around with work, telling you don’t need to and then using the fact that you don’t work currently to punish you.

He’s a horrible, horrible man and you are his punching bag. He is vile to you to make himself feel bigger and better. And that makes him, in my eyes, a total cunt.

I hope you get a great job that works for you and you realise life is too short to be with this unpleasant bastard.

Freckles10 · 19/01/2025 19:50

Cornflakes123 · 19/01/2025 19:23

Is there a possibility he could be depressed maybe ?

I think he is but he would never admit it!

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Sassybooklover · 19/01/2025 19:51

It does appear that your husband is resenting the fact other people can afford the luxuries in life, and he can't. He's clearly resenting you being at home and him working full-time. Never mind that you are doing the laundry, cleaning, cooking, helping with homework, school runs, nursery runs etc. So he can come home to a meal, a clean home and clean clothes to wear, seems to be lost on him. He's ungrateful. You both agreed for you to stay at home after the birth of your second child. It seems he's now changed his mind? He can't have it both ways - you working and doing all the household chores/majority share in parenting! If he wants you working part-time or full-time, then he will need to help you with the rest of the every day chores at home. My guess is that he won't want to do that. What he actually wants is his cake and to eat it! As for the 40th birthday celebrations - you both agreed an expensive holiday wasn't something you could afford. Has he any idea how expensive Iceland is??!! It's not a cheap weekend away!! You organise something within budget, but that's not good enough. He's an ungrateful shit, and should be ashamed of himself.