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Husband is unhappy

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Freckles10 · 19/01/2025 17:49

I’m hoping this is a safe space to have a bit of a rant/get some advice on my hubby.

We haven’t been doing well recently. Lots of arguments about my husbands expectations of me which I am apparently not meeting. ie, things around the house not being done etc (I’m a stay at home mum).

Money is a bit tight at the moment and his 40th birthday is approaching. We discussed some extravagant holidays which in the end we decided not to do because hubby said we couldn’t afford it.

I didn’t want the day to go by without celebrating so I decided to sell some things on vinted and raise the money to take us away overnight. I chose some activities I thought he would like and then an overnight stay.

I think he has hyped the weekend up in his head (he thinks I have, but I don’t know when he thinks this has happened as I’ve rarely mentioned it) and this evening I have told him what we are doing and he’s told me he is really disappointed. He’s said everyone he knows are having big holidays to fancy places and I’ve just booked an activity weekend of which it includes activities he has already done and that we could do any time.

He’s said I’ve basically just planned the weekend around what I want to do and he isn’t going. He’s told me to cancel the whole thing. Despite the fact that his best friend and his wife are joining us. That I’ve got a babysitter for our two children. That I won’t get a refund on the hotel. He wants the whole thing cancelling and wants absolutely no mention of his birthday. No cards. No gifts.

Im numb with shock. I genuinely don’t know what to do or think. He said he expected to be going abroad doing something like Iceland or Amsterdam…despite the fact we had said we couldn’t afford it. But then if I had planned nothing, I would have been the wife who didn’t plan anything for her husbands birthday!

so now I have to go to my mum and my sister and explain why I don’t need them to babysit our children. I need to tell my mum she can have the money back that she contributed towards the weekend away. And he has to tell our daughter why we aren’t celebrating his birthday.

My question isn’t about the situation itself - it’s about what I do next! Firstly, how do we get through this? I can’t just go “yeah whatever” because a) that’s not me and b) I’m genuinely so hurt by this. I don’t know how to be ok with it! And secondly, I’ve told him he needs to speak to someone. That I think he isn’t happy and that he may need to professional support. Has anyone else see behaviour in their husbands like this when they hit 40? He is very hostile at the moment. Small things make him so angry! He hangs the fact I dont have a job over my head but then says I can be off work as long as I want. I just don’t know what to do to make him happy! To make us happy.

I need to know if this is a phase, whether he is maybe depressed or having a crisis that we can work on or whether this is it for the rest of our lives. I’m at a loss.

OP posts:
Freckles10 · 19/01/2025 19:03

GoneGirl12345 · 19/01/2025 18:53

Yes I think you need to sit down with him and explain that you sold personal items and took money from your mum in order to afford the break that you had planned.

If he wants a more extravagant lifestyle then either he will need get a better paid job or help out with the childcare so that you can get a job.

How old is your youngest? They should be entitled to 30 hours a week from age 3 if you are both working.

He has a very very well paid job.. we just have a lot of mutually agreed outgoings.

my youngest is about to turn 2. So she wil get the 30 free in September

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perfectcolourfound · 19/01/2025 19:04

I'm amazed that everyone is jumping on you the fact this is about you not working and him being stressed by money.

It doesn't explain or excuse him shouting and sulking that he isn't being taken someone abroad for his 40th.

I know literally noone who went abroad for their 40th (and I know plenty of people on very good salaries). It just isn't the 'norm' but even if it was, he's a grown adult who agreed that you couldn't afford to do that right now.

His reaction is vile. Like a spoiled child. Immature. Sulking. Shouting. Cancelling. Trying to punish you when you've done nothing at all wrong. Trying to make you uncomfortable in front of your friends and family.

Don't cover for him. Don't take responsibility for his failings. Be honest with your family and with your friends. Tell them the truth. Your husband surely won't mind that, being as he's convinced he's acting reasonanly. If he objects to them all being told the truth, then he's admitting he knows he's in the wrong.

I'd seriously reconsider your relationship. Has he acted like this before? Does he give mixed messages then blame you for misunderstanding / doing the wrong this? Does he blame you for things that go wrong even when it's nothing to do with you? Does he expect you to apologise, even when you've done nothing wrong? Does he expect multiple apologies / sulk / make you feel bad when you aren't even sure why?

autumngirlxo · 19/01/2025 19:05

He is acting really ungrateful considering you went out of your way to sell things, arrange childcare and book a short stay away for his birthday.
If it were me I'd do exactly what he wants... Cancel the holiday, no presents, no cards, no birthday celebration.
Let the kids go to the nans for the weekend and enjoy themselves, and you just go about your business too, maybe meet up with a friend? Let him have his hissy fit and see if he behaves that way again.

Viviennemary · 19/01/2025 19:05

He sounds stressed and dissatisfied with life. I think you need to get a job. Lots of folk who have children manage to work. It will help you I think rather than being stuck at home all day. Getting out and meeting people.

Thecatthatgotthesouredmilk · 19/01/2025 19:06

I think trying to get him to see your point of view will be pointless.The more you try and argue with these people, the more they take the piss. Which he is, massively.

Next time the subject comes up and he says he doesn't want to go just say 'Ok' and walk away. Everytime he tries to start an argument, the same response. Resist the urge to argue your point. Let him talk and you listen, then just say 'OK, whatever you want', then make steps to do what he has asked. He wants you to cancel the holiday, well then you make a WhatsApp group with your friends and cancel the plans.

Take the emotion out of it. Be light and breezy. He will probably start changing his tune when he sees you are not raising to his tantrums. He currently has you tense and worried for what!?

PigInAHouse · 19/01/2025 19:09

Viviennemary · 19/01/2025 19:05

He sounds stressed and dissatisfied with life. I think you need to get a job. Lots of folk who have children manage to work. It will help you I think rather than being stuck at home all day. Getting out and meeting people.

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As long as he does his share of the childcare around working hours, and the OP isn’t stuck doing it all 🤷🏻‍♀️

EnjoythemoneyJane · 19/01/2025 19:10

Mid-life crisis for sure. 40 is a biggie for some people (seems IME to be 40 for men and 50 for women).

He’s doing that thing that men who are principal earners often seem to do: agreeing to (and often driving) decisions around outgoings - the mortgage, the cars, the school fees, yada yada - and then being surprised your family finances are overstretched and starts stamping his foot, looking for someone else to blame (you!) and wailing ‘what about meeeeee?’.

He feels like he’s working all the hours and earning well but the lifestyle he craves is still out of reach, so what’s the point? And he’s using his fear and frustration and disappointment as a stick to beat you with, which is not only unfair and ungrateful, it’s deeply unattractive.

Throwing all his toys out of the pram over a celebration you’ve tried to make special on a budget (at his insistence), and then humiliating you by cancelling plans with everyone and sulking, even in front of the kids, is just arsewipe behaviour of the highest order.

You sound lovely, OP. Don’t do anything for his birthday. Cancel what you can, recoup what you can and scrape together what you would have spent having a fun weekend with your friends and give it to him to spend on therapy. Seriously. He needs to talk to someone to help switch his perspective, and soon.

And you definitely need to get that job, because if he doesn’t get his head on straight quite quickly, he may well be assuaging his disappointment with something worse than sulking - like an affair, which will also be your fault, naturally. Seen it too, too many times.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 19/01/2025 19:11

Pregnancy and birth are flashpoints for abusers to show their true colours and. I think your H's actions towards you are rooted in abuse. He does not act like this to people in the outside world does he?. I note also you write he started to change around 3 or so years ago so basically when you were pregnant. He's now pissed off entirely that your world centres around your children and not him hence his sulking behaviour (aka emotional abuse).

I would seriously consider whether this is a relationship you want to remain in because this is who he is and he is not going to change. You cannot help him because he does not want your help and or support. Do not enter into any joint counselling with him; it is a non starter. Abuse also is not a relationship issue and nor is it about communication or a perceived lack of; it's about power and control.

PigInAHouse · 19/01/2025 19:12

perfectcolourfound · 19/01/2025 19:04

I'm amazed that everyone is jumping on you the fact this is about you not working and him being stressed by money.

It doesn't explain or excuse him shouting and sulking that he isn't being taken someone abroad for his 40th.

I know literally noone who went abroad for their 40th (and I know plenty of people on very good salaries). It just isn't the 'norm' but even if it was, he's a grown adult who agreed that you couldn't afford to do that right now.

His reaction is vile. Like a spoiled child. Immature. Sulking. Shouting. Cancelling. Trying to punish you when you've done nothing at all wrong. Trying to make you uncomfortable in front of your friends and family.

Don't cover for him. Don't take responsibility for his failings. Be honest with your family and with your friends. Tell them the truth. Your husband surely won't mind that, being as he's convinced he's acting reasonanly. If he objects to them all being told the truth, then he's admitting he knows he's in the wrong.

I'd seriously reconsider your relationship. Has he acted like this before? Does he give mixed messages then blame you for misunderstanding / doing the wrong this? Does he blame you for things that go wrong even when it's nothing to do with you? Does he expect you to apologise, even when you've done nothing wrong? Does he expect multiple apologies / sulk / make you feel bad when you aren't even sure why?

Exactly this. If he’s stressed about taking on the financial burden he can, as a grown adult, use his words and discuss that with the OP. Then they can come up with a plan together to manage the childcare around working hours. Instead he’s telling the OP not to get a job then having a toddler tantrum because he isn’t being spoilt in the way he thinks he deserves for his birthday 🙄

Pumpkinpie1 · 19/01/2025 19:12

Don’t cancel the break. You have friends going with you , I’d be livid if I were them and you cancelled because H was having a tantrum !
I think you both need to sit down and go through your finances.
Where can you tighten your belts , cheaper brands , change where you shop , pack lunches instead of bought , can you change your energy , broadband supplier etc
You have options but you need to talk .
Stop enabling him and talk

MaryGreenhill · 19/01/2025 19:14

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 19/01/2025 18:42

I hate to say it but it sounds as though he is orchestrating arguments. Does he even want to stay in the marriage, because it sounds less like financial pressure and a little bit more like wanting out....

I thought this

Bignanna · 19/01/2025 19:15

perfectcolourfound · 19/01/2025 19:04

I'm amazed that everyone is jumping on you the fact this is about you not working and him being stressed by money.

It doesn't explain or excuse him shouting and sulking that he isn't being taken someone abroad for his 40th.

I know literally noone who went abroad for their 40th (and I know plenty of people on very good salaries). It just isn't the 'norm' but even if it was, he's a grown adult who agreed that you couldn't afford to do that right now.

His reaction is vile. Like a spoiled child. Immature. Sulking. Shouting. Cancelling. Trying to punish you when you've done nothing at all wrong. Trying to make you uncomfortable in front of your friends and family.

Don't cover for him. Don't take responsibility for his failings. Be honest with your family and with your friends. Tell them the truth. Your husband surely won't mind that, being as he's convinced he's acting reasonanly. If he objects to them all being told the truth, then he's admitting he knows he's in the wrong.

I'd seriously reconsider your relationship. Has he acted like this before? Does he give mixed messages then blame you for misunderstanding / doing the wrong this? Does he blame you for things that go wrong even when it's nothing to do with you? Does he expect you to apologise, even when you've done nothing wrong? Does he expect multiple apologies / sulk / make you feel bad when you aren't even sure why?

Exactly this^

Freckles10 · 19/01/2025 19:16

Fullofthejoysofspring · 19/01/2025 18:26

What about weekend working, is that an option?

No as he would need to look after the girls and my eldest does competitive dancing so I need to be around to take her to that.

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Freckles10 · 19/01/2025 19:17

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 19/01/2025 18:28

Think back over your marriage and courtship. Has he ever acted like this before?

Nope! Not until recently!

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selffellatingouroborosofhate · 19/01/2025 19:17

perfectcolourfound · 19/01/2025 19:04

I'm amazed that everyone is jumping on you the fact this is about you not working and him being stressed by money.

It doesn't explain or excuse him shouting and sulking that he isn't being taken someone abroad for his 40th.

I know literally noone who went abroad for their 40th (and I know plenty of people on very good salaries). It just isn't the 'norm' but even if it was, he's a grown adult who agreed that you couldn't afford to do that right now.

His reaction is vile. Like a spoiled child. Immature. Sulking. Shouting. Cancelling. Trying to punish you when you've done nothing at all wrong. Trying to make you uncomfortable in front of your friends and family.

Don't cover for him. Don't take responsibility for his failings. Be honest with your family and with your friends. Tell them the truth. Your husband surely won't mind that, being as he's convinced he's acting reasonanly. If he objects to them all being told the truth, then he's admitting he knows he's in the wrong.

I'd seriously reconsider your relationship. Has he acted like this before? Does he give mixed messages then blame you for misunderstanding / doing the wrong this? Does he blame you for things that go wrong even when it's nothing to do with you? Does he expect you to apologise, even when you've done nothing wrong? Does he expect multiple apologies / sulk / make you feel bad when you aren't even sure why?

Tell them the truth. Your husband surely won't mind that, being as he's convinced he's acting reasonanly. If he objects to them all being told the truth, then he's admitting he knows he's in the wrong.

This should be printed on billboards.

2025willbemytime · 19/01/2025 19:17

He is an ungrateful pig. What a dick.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 19/01/2025 19:18

Freckles10 · 19/01/2025 19:16

No as he would need to look after the girls and my eldest does competitive dancing so I need to be around to take her to that.

What stops him from looking after the girls and taking the eldest to dance practice?

Bignanna · 19/01/2025 19:19

I’d be hurt too, if I been thoughtful and caring, trying to give him an enjoyable birthday. His reaction is way out of order. I’d be thinking whether I wanted to stay married to him

NewYearNewName2025 · 19/01/2025 19:19

He's acting like a petulant child and having a midlife crisis! You need to sit down and talk about what's really going on here as I think the birthday weekend is not the real problem, but his reaction to it is.

Cornflakes123 · 19/01/2025 19:20

I feel really sad for you op. You sound really caring and it sounds like you made a huge effort for him. He is being horribly selfish and ungrateful.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 19/01/2025 19:20

He hasnt' started mentioning a new 'friend' at all, has he?

PigInAHouse · 19/01/2025 19:20

Freckles10 · 19/01/2025 19:16

No as he would need to look after the girls and my eldest does competitive dancing so I need to be around to take her to that.

Why can’t he do that?

2025willbemytime · 19/01/2025 19:20

I am surprised so many people are banging on about you finding a job rather than focussing on his disgusting attitude to your birthday gifts.

PigInAHouse · 19/01/2025 19:21

2025willbemytime · 19/01/2025 19:20

I am surprised so many people are banging on about you finding a job rather than focussing on his disgusting attitude to your birthday gifts.

People will do anything to excuse the shitty behaviour of men.

DuskyPink1984 · 19/01/2025 19:22

Sounds like pretty immature behaviour. Why does he care about other peoples expensive holidays? Generally when a couple decide that one parent will stay at home, everyone knows that finances aren’t going to be the same as they were. I think his response after all your effort is very unkind. I’m really sorry for you.

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